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Your so damned lucky.
In the uk, for £50, that is probabley about $65 US you can ADSL, and it is capped at 512 down/ 256 up.
And you are contractually forced to use a USB modem, that actually works more stable under windows, than any open Source OS, and is pretty crap under windows.
Who would have thought that ADSL over Windows Dial Up networking was the best way to give your population ADSL?
It's good to see that some parts of the world have a more advanced attitude to online life.
I come from a 3rd World Country, I too first heard about ADSL in 1997, I wanted it, I enquired about, then I was told it didn't exist outside research labs.
Skip forward to 1999, I hear that my dictatorial government has issued a declaration that it will encourage the spreading of affordable and fast internet access to the masses. Our Psuedo Private national phone company has a strange idea of both affordable and fast.
Jump to 2000. The ADSL trials have finished, and the public can sign up for ADSL (sorry misworded, Public Businesses can sign up for Ethernet based ADSL, at £110 per month for 512k/256k, public Homeusers, have to wait (and carry on using expensive per minute metered dialup) for an extended trial for ADSL based on Windows/DUN/a USB ADSL modem).
Late 2000, finally the public (after 3 years of waiting for trials to finish) can order ADSL for the Home based on a USB modem at 512k/256k for arround £40 plus taxes a month.
2 weeks after install discover a slight bug, it doesn't work with SMP machines DOH. Talk to the manufacturers, Reason it doesn't work "This is a product for home users, home users don't use SMP", so what am I.
Reason it doesn't work SMP, because they didn't test it SMP.
Early 2001 manufacturer releases SMP thread safe drivers for 2000 "this will fix all SMP problems", they don't work, and are more unstable in Uni processor mode than the older ones.
BTW the 3rd world totalitarian country I live in is the United Kingdom, incase you didn't guess
In the UK Sky (part of Rupert Murdochs enterprises for those who don't know) have a digital satelite TV service.
On the ordinary channels you can record to Video tape quite normally, but if you buy a movie on the Pay-Per-View movie channels, nothing records. you don't even see a scrambled movie, and you don't see the output of the film off the tape, even if it's during the period of time you have paid for to watch the movie. It is almost as if the digibox cuts the signal to VCR on encrypted PPV movie and sport channels.
So metallica don't want to encourage MP3 of their work, so why then do they have a banner ad on the Metallica.com site at the very bottom of the opening page to download the icast radio player, that player that uses icecast as the radio server, the radio server that broadcast from users pc/unix boxes. And just remind me, what format does Metallica encourage users listen to and broadcast their net Radio in? Ah yes MP3. Users can take their favourite illegally downloaded Metallica MP3's, set up an account at icast, set up an icecast server, and broadcast it to all who want to listen, all with the endorsement of Metallica through their placement of a banner ad. Cool guts, nice strategy.
You really think that it is difficult to get hold of a Firearm in the UK?
I could buy one in several pubs I frequent, I know the right people, through going to school with them, or friends of them.
I have been offered sawn off shotguns by people who only know me by association with their friends/contacts, normally around the same time as I was propositioned to buy/sell drugs, normally in quantities that leave me open to a jail sentence for possession with intent to supply.
BTW I am a 30 year old programmer for an internet company based out side of any major city (I have no criminal record, and I don't plan on getting one and I fit the profile perfectly), and all the offers propositioned came during a quiet night drinking in a little market town where I currently live, miles from the Trouble spots that commonly get mentioned in Liverpool, or Manchester, or London, or Cardiff, or Edinborough. I have an interest in Air-rifles and Crossbows, and can regularly be found online, either in Newsgroups, on Slashdot, or playing the demo of Q3A online
How many geeks getting together would it take to buy a big enough Island that would let us all spread enough to seek our own peers, and have enough space to work.
I know that the serious NT geeks, would want space from the Linux hacks and the Solaris coders would want space away from the Irix elitists.
The Net heads could live anywhere amongst any of them as long as they had access to a T1 and a name/news/web/irc/shoutcast server, after all were platform independant.
So who wants to start the Freetopia community fund.
Remember its not the Island that you are paying for it's the development.
I have to agree with that last post, I have a main design machine, running Win98SE, It was running WInNT4.0 (sp5) but the PCI modem(Rockwell HCF) I was using would lock the system randomly, so I swithed to plain vanilla mark one Win98, that experienced the same problem, but more frequently, allowing about 25/30 seconds on line before locking everything up for the night, and sometimes not letting the line go when I tried a reboot.
Eventually got hold of a copy of SE and believe it or not got the same problems. I have since returned the modem card to the shop where I purchased it because it disn't fulfil the tasks it was supposed . Data communicatios processing
Stuck in a 56k ISA rockwell ACF and everything is hunky dory. If Windows can't handle winmodems, what hope does Linux have?
Why not, games would be the perfect environment for MS to use as move over to providing Linux Programs, not an OS Distribution. The world is full to bursting with every kind of game for win/dos/95/98. Microsoft has over the last couple of years been moving more towards the game releases as well as application updates, but it has a lot more competion than it does with apps and OS's, so what could be better than to make you move into a New OS environment through an area of the OS that has been largely commercially ignored ( yes I know Quake, Doom, Quake II, Freeciv etc) by official manufacturers. I can't beet linux as an OS, but it can get in on the pole position when the games race really hots up. Thats if it can get it's coders of CIV call to power of course.
I couldn't agree more with that, I am a major nethead, but the alternative Telco I work for doesn't have any lines avaiable in the area where I live, everything goes through BT and is split between BT, and my employer through the interconnect agreement. That means a £115.00 bill every month, and On the subject of Telstra's reliability, last night I tried to use my (BT) phone and there was so much Static and line noise that I couldn't even hear the operator when I phoned report the fault. It wasn't the phone itself though because when I unplugged it and and tried to connect through my modem, there was so much noise initially that it couldn't handshake ( 3 times in a row) then it couldn't even recognise a dial tone. Lousy service and stupid prices, and no real alternative, now thats what I call a Microsoft, sorry I meant Monopoly. You live in hope I live in the UK Skraggy
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Your so damned lucky.
In the uk, for £50, that is probabley about $65 US you can ADSL, and it is capped at 512 down/ 256 up.
And you are contractually forced to use a USB modem, that actually works more stable under windows, than any open Source OS, and is pretty crap under windows.
Who would have thought that ADSL over Windows Dial Up networking was the best way to give your population ADSL?
It's good to see that some parts of the world have a more advanced attitude to online life.
I come from a 3rd World Country, I too first heard about ADSL in 1997, I wanted it, I enquired about, then I was told it didn't exist outside research labs.
Skip forward to 1999, I hear that my dictatorial government has issued a declaration that it will encourage the spreading of affordable and fast internet access to the masses. Our Psuedo Private national phone company has a strange idea of both affordable and fast.
Jump to 2000. The ADSL trials have finished, and the public can sign up for ADSL (sorry misworded, Public Businesses can sign up for Ethernet based ADSL, at £110 per month for 512k/256k, public Homeusers, have to wait (and carry on using expensive per minute metered dialup) for an extended trial for ADSL based on Windows/DUN/a USB ADSL modem).
Late 2000, finally the public (after 3 years of waiting for trials to finish) can order ADSL for the Home based on a USB modem at 512k/256k for arround £40 plus taxes a month.
2 weeks after install discover a slight bug, it doesn't work with SMP machines DOH. Talk to the manufacturers, Reason it doesn't work "This is a product for home users, home users don't use SMP", so what am I.
Reason it doesn't work SMP, because they didn't test it SMP.
Early 2001 manufacturer releases SMP thread safe drivers for 2000 "this will fix all SMP problems", they don't work, and are more unstable in Uni processor mode than the older ones.
BTW the 3rd world totalitarian country I live in is the United Kingdom, incase you didn't guess
And you get to replace WinCE with a free Open OS
In the UK Sky (part of Rupert Murdochs enterprises for those who don't know) have a digital satelite TV service. On the ordinary channels you can record to Video tape quite normally, but if you buy a movie on the Pay-Per-View movie channels, nothing records. you don't even see a scrambled movie, and you don't see the output of the film off the tape, even if it's during the period of time you have paid for to watch the movie. It is almost as if the digibox cuts the signal to VCR on encrypted PPV movie and sport channels.
So metallica don't want to encourage MP3 of their work, so why then do they have a banner ad on the Metallica.com site at the very bottom of the opening page to download the icast radio player, that player that uses icecast as the radio server, the radio server that broadcast from users pc/unix boxes. And just remind me, what format does Metallica encourage users listen to and broadcast their net Radio in? Ah yes MP3. Users can take their favourite illegally downloaded Metallica MP3's, set up an account at icast, set up an icecast server, and broadcast it to all who want to listen, all with the endorsement of Metallica through their placement of a banner ad. Cool guts, nice strategy.
You really think that it is difficult to get hold of a Firearm in the UK?
I could buy one in several pubs I frequent, I know the right people, through going to school with them, or friends of them.
I have been offered sawn off shotguns by people who only know me by association with their friends/contacts, normally around the same time as I was propositioned to buy/sell drugs, normally in quantities that leave me open to a jail sentence for possession with intent to supply.
BTW I am a 30 year old programmer for an internet company based out side of any major city (I have no criminal record, and I don't plan on getting one and I fit the profile perfectly), and all the offers propositioned came during a quiet night drinking in a little market town where I currently live, miles from the Trouble spots that commonly get mentioned in Liverpool, or Manchester, or London, or Cardiff, or Edinborough.
I have an interest in Air-rifles and Crossbows, and can regularly be found online, either in Newsgroups, on Slashdot, or playing the demo of Q3A online
How many geeks getting together would it take to buy a big enough Island that would let us all spread enough to seek our own peers, and have enough space to work.
I know that the serious NT geeks, would want space from the Linux hacks and the Solaris coders would want space away from the Irix elitists.
The Net heads could live anywhere amongst any of them as long as they had access to a T1 and a name/news/web/irc/shoutcast server, after all were platform independant.
So who wants to start the Freetopia community fund.
Remember its not the Island that you are paying for it's the development.
I have to agree with that last post, I have a main design machine, running Win98SE, It was running WInNT4.0 (sp5) but the PCI modem(Rockwell HCF) I was using would lock the system randomly, so I swithed to plain vanilla mark one Win98, that experienced the same problem, but more frequently, allowing about 25/30 seconds on line before locking everything up for the night, and sometimes not letting the line go when I tried a reboot.
Eventually got hold of a copy of SE and believe it or not got the same problems. I have since returned the modem card to the shop where I purchased it because it disn't fulfil the tasks it was supposed . Data communicatios processing
Stuck in a 56k ISA rockwell ACF and everything is hunky dory. If Windows can't handle winmodems, what hope does Linux have?
SkraggyWhy not, games would be the perfect environment for MS to use as move over to providing Linux Programs, not an OS Distribution. The world is full to bursting with every kind of game for win/dos/95/98. Microsoft has over the last couple of years been moving more towards the game releases as well as application updates, but it has a lot more competion than it does with apps and OS's, so what could be better than to make you move into a New OS environment through an area of the OS that has been largely commercially ignored ( yes I know Quake, Doom, Quake II, Freeciv etc) by official manufacturers. I can't beet linux as an OS, but it can get in on the pole position when the games race really hots up. Thats if it can get it's coders of CIV call to power of course.
I couldn't agree more with that, I am a major nethead, but the alternative Telco I work for doesn't have any lines avaiable in the area where I live, everything goes through BT and is split between BT, and my employer through the interconnect agreement. That means a £115.00 bill every month, and
On the subject of Telstra's reliability, last night I tried to use my (BT) phone and there was so much Static and line noise that I couldn't even hear the operator when I phoned report the fault.
It wasn't the phone itself though because when I unplugged it and and tried to connect through my modem, there was so much noise initially that it couldn't handshake ( 3 times in a row) then it couldn't even recognise a dial tone.
Lousy service and stupid prices, and no real alternative, now thats what I call a Microsoft, sorry I meant Monopoly.
You live in hope
I live in the UK
Skraggy