The $100K/year programmer may be in the top 1% so no great harm if that job moves overseas (except for well except for the programmer, but that job is in the 1% and we don't care about the 1%).
Since when does the average programmer make $100K/yr?!?! Most I know are in the 30-60K range.
You may *WISH* that were true. I manage an IT department and I'm nowhere near the top 1%. I make a "middle-class" salary that I can't even afford medical insurance for my family on.
The average A+ certified screw-turner still only makes about 25K around here. And with 15 years of IT experience, I only beat that by a little over 1/3rd.
And it does do moral harm.... tech jobs are so scarce here that if it were possible to outsource mine I'd have to leave my home and extended family behind just to find work. That is unacceptable.
" but why should Foxconn worry that they will be unemployed?"...because it shows Foxconn for what it is, a completely apathetic company who only views it's workforce as meat robots
You mean like most large companies that exist today? Companies can and will do anything to increase shareholder value and keep labor costs down, up to and including breaking the law.
People kill themselves in the US from job-related stress from apathetic companies all the time.
The expertise is still out there and there's a dozen places still selling pdp11 parts though they are a bit pricy.
The later QBUS MicroPDP 11's are probably the easiest to keep going and the most modern.
The trouble is finding folks with RT11 or RSX experience willing to work for 35k with no benefits. Far easier to find wannabe sysadmins with half-assed Windows server training in this category.
For the record 2.11BSD for the PDP11 still sees updates.
Hell, the vast majority of Creative Suite users can't even using the scripting engine much less have a concept on how to code an implementation of CMYK, 16 bit layers or the dozen other things that GIMP is missing.
Yes, but a lot of people using Photoshop are using it because it's a "standard". Unless you're doing pro work destined for a printing press or pro photography studio, most of the features you've mentioned are non-issues. A vast majority of the people I know using Photoshop use it for graphics for web pages or stuff around the office.
I've found both modern versions of GIMP, which gets better every release, and Pixelmator more than adequate for 95% of most graphics needs. GIMP has come a LONG way. CMYK is coming.
Other than CMYK, a lot of those features didn't exist in early Photoshop either. I've been using Photoshop since 2.0 on a Mac IIci. Yet we still managed to do great stuff with those older versions.
As for InDesign.... Scribus is pretty cool but due to issues using Pantone and such it has some limits unless you put a LOT of effort into setting it up. And I betcha Quark won't go subscription and will end up back on top in that niche.
I agree though, Creative Suite is a great product. Very robust. But the subscription model will be suicide. Office is great too but if they canned the standard model and forced everyone into Office 365 people would either be running Office 2003/2007/2010 for eternity or use OpenOffice/LibreOffice.
It wasn't. You could have them in your checked-in luggage however. Carry-on in passenger compartment has never really been legal. Holes in cabin at 35,000 feet would not go well for anyone onboard.
Defense. I have a a right to be dangerous when necessary and be empowered to defend myself, my family, my property and my rights.
Fairly recent rulings determined that the police are not OBLIGATED to protect your life. When seconds count, the cops are minutes away. In my case about 45 minutes where I live.
And if someone wants my guns that badly, come get'em. I'll even give you the ammo for free. 85 grains at a time. Very quickly. At roughly 1700 ft/sec.
And semi-auto rifles in sufficient quantity with a sufficiently pissed off massive guerilla force would be a lot more effective than you think. No one goes toe-to-toe in combat anymore. It's suicide. Personally, I don't like to waste ammo. Other than suppressive fire, full auto isn't all that useful in small arms. This is why most modern military rifles are select-fire between 3-round burst and semi-automatic. One squeeze, one bang is good enough for me.
I hope you're not serious. Apple has NEVER found the next big thing, ever.
So....
The Pre-packaged ready-to-go personal computer. USB (though inspired by Atari SIO) FireWire First successful integration of an online music store and a portable media player.
I'd say all 4 have been pretty successful.
While I'm no Jobs fan and I personally HATE iOS (and Android for that matter), NeXTstep was awesome. OSX is a modern version of NeXTstep. If you get used to its quirks and differences from Linux boxes and turn some of the retarded tablet-like features off I'd say it's the best damn desktop UNIX environment out there. Period. And I can run native MS Office and other packages that make PHB's happy. And still compile lots of open source goodies. And run them natively too.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention.... first *SUCCESSFUL* desktop UNIXish platform targeted at consumers. But that's ok because the year of the Linux desktop is just around the corner.
When's the last time a US company actually built a US product in the US with US workers?
This is a pissing contest, plain and simple. If Russia wanted to nuke us, we'd be dead already. I'm pretty sure any CPU made in the last 15 years in sufficient quantities would make a decent supercomputing platform for nuclear research.
This is a move to prevent competition.
I'm sure the Chinese will help them out. They have that little MIPS clone they're fond of.
There are risks, but if your replacement flames out, they can always come back to you, later.
Unless your replacement is charismatic and convinces them that the reason he flamed out is because of your "shitty unmaintainable code". After he's been there a while as a real employee instead of an "outside contractor", they'd likely believe him.
This is a common problem with IT monkeys. "VMWare? What a retard, we need to go Hyper-V and get rid of that free Linux crap and replace it with $10,000 windows packages. See! There's Windows VM's on there too. He should have gone all Windows. Linux isn't compatible."
The sad thing is that in this area, people like that make good money screwing up networks for $50/hr and I have to justify sound IT decisions because of them. I'm about f**kin' sick of the posers. I don't want to see IT regulation and licensing. Posers are making it necessary. Especially where small businesses who can't afford or simply haven't bothered hiring IT staff are concerned.
And as an added thought.... I'm sure that jury was stacked full of technically minded folks with a good grasp on networking technologies that completely understood the allegations.
Yes but if I ask you for your stuff and you give it to me, that's not theft. That's you not paying attention.
He didn't TAKE the information from the computer. He asked and it willingly gave it up. No hacking required. That makes it a public service connected to the public internet. The info contained on that public service should be fair game.
Twisting facts and being ignorant of how the internet works is no excuse for sending this guy to jail. Being an asshole wannabe is not a crime.
How often does this happen? If the collision of stars is fantastically rare, then so surely is the collision of planets equally very rare, and the collision and breakup of life-bearing planets even more so. Nor is it in any way assured that should such a cataclysmic event happen that any living organism could survive it. Surely few enough would. You are dealing here with a LARGE number of events, EACH of which is fantastically unlikely.
That would explain why SETI has been less than successful wouldn't it? I've had several 1 in a million things happen to me in 30 years. Anything can happen in 1,000,000,000. Anything you could think of probably WOULD happen in a billion years.
If Panspermia was the cause, either by transporting life or through it's creation by chemical means in the comet (along with cosmic rays), then it would be an extremely rare event. And likely part of the reason we're not picking up Alien sitcoms on TV.
It's not an unsound theory. In fact it almost makes sense. Not saying life didn't start here, but I'm not going to rule out panspermia either until more data is presented that makes it seem less reasonable.
The use of nuclear weapons will never make sense. If one side uses them than the other side would do nothing but spread the misery. Neither side would win as the only way to win is not to play.
Hmmm..... I seem to remember my Grandfather telling me about how we used them with great success in 1945. Brought the war to a quick close it did.
Yes, the game is winnable. But only if the other side doesn't have effective nukes. Which is the reason we're struggling so hard to keep minor players with big mouths out of the game. A handful of nukes means you are no longer a minor player. And actually have a meaningful say. We just can't have that.... now can we?
After you dig through a bastardized Java VM. Why not just use the kernel and slap an embedded linux userland on it and call it a day? Would be much more suited to the task and make troubleshooting easier.
Why Android, wouldn't a slim straight embedded GNU/Linux OS be a better choice from a reliability standpoint? Is there a robot finger for poking the screen? If not, Android in this situation was a solution in search of a problem.
Linux, QNX, FreeBSD or NetBSD would have all been adequate choices, likely more reliable and will all run on just about anything.
OSX is fun for a while, but corporate applications become incompatible with later versions and even things such as network printer installations don't work from version to version (let alone hardware changes and endless adapters that come out when Apple feels like it).
I have *FAR FEWER* printing issues with OSX in a corporate setting than Windows. Stop buying shitty printers. CUPS is rock-solid.
You can't get a proper menu system going,
WTF are you talking about? What kind of menu system?
nor can you get decent Linux apps to work properly on it (they are always a few versions behind and sometimes you have to pay for an outdated version).
If OSX isn't their primary target there's some differences that need to be coded around. And I've never paid for open source *NIX software. If you want a snazzy OSX front-end for something, yeah some folks want to be paid for their work.
OSX is NOT LINUX.... you can't expect everything to "just work" from Linux land. Just like you can't expect the same on a FreeBSD machine. More of it does than you think however. Install Fink or Macports.
And "a few versions behind" is total BS though they some folks drag their feet on OSX versions. And I'll deal with that since on the other hand, I have plenty of great commercial software you'll never EVER have for Linux.
Trying to get anything remotely advanced to work on it (like wireshark in promiscous mode or powertop to see wattage per application) never quite works.
Again, wrong. Never ONCE have I had an issue with Wireshark. Run it as root. If you're unsure how to do that, step away from the Mac and go play with your Windows box.
The logs are never complete in a corporate setting, so you always have intermittent "issues" connecting to wireless, joining a cross-platform domain, etc. It's an Operating System and it don't always "just work" as is often claimed.
So logging causes wireless issues? If you have inadequate logs it's because you don't know how to turn additional logging on. Familiarize yourself with the system and learn something....
Haven't had issues joining a Windows domain in years either. "Just works" only applies in Apple-land. The only thing that "just works" with Windows Server, is a Windows client. Real networks need real IT guys who can cope with this and know a bit more than the Net+ book and MS certs would get them.
Your wireless issues are likely misconfiguration or your AP firmware needs updates.
> Next to native MS office, indesign and photoshop
Those are pretty much worthless to the vast majority of people
MS Office worthless? LOL Hardly... especially if you have a job and it's mandated. Indesign is also far from worthless.
and by far not worth the limited hardware choices and increase costs you will have to deal as part of the Apple collective.
I haven't found a piece of Mac hardware yet that sucks for getting real work done. There's just no $400 Walmart option.
If photoshop is really the best you can come up with then you really are a clueless do-nothing twit that could probably get by just as well with an iPad.
Actually, no, I'm an IT Director for a smallish Oil company.
MacOS doesn't spank anything. It's a weird mixture of the bad parts of both Linux and Windows. It's not as well suported while being more closed.
The fact that the closed bits were bolted onto FreeBSD really don't change this.
Ummm... you obviously know nothing of OSX's roots and never used a NeXTstation. Get off my lawn. OSX is a Mach/BSD hybrid with history dating back to the 80's that was originally called NeXTstep. It predates both Linux and FreeBSD. The FreeBSD userland is there as it was more modern than the old 4.3BSD userland. The kernel is certainly not FreeBSD.
OSX is very well supported and is far more open than Windows. The source for the base OS is even available though fairly restricted. It may not be enough to please the freetards but it's certainly enough to make *ME* happy.
And here I thought that I was getting desktop-ready *NIX environment with a UI layer that wasn't a crufty piece of shit pretending to be something it's not. That I can still run native X11 apps on. Next to native MS office, indesign and photoshop. Without vitualization. And VMWare Fusion for situations where that's not enough or for when I want to stage a VM-based server before I deploy it.
I'll pay a couple bucks extra for that at work. And build a Hackintosh at home.
I love BSD, Linux to a degree and even X11. They are great tools. For a desktop workstation, OSX spanks Linux.... it just costs money.
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The $100K/year programmer may be in the top 1% so no great harm if that job moves overseas (except for well except for the programmer, but that job is in the 1% and we don't care about the 1%).
Since when does the average programmer make $100K/yr?!?! Most I know are in the 30-60K range.
You may *WISH* that were true. I manage an IT department and I'm nowhere near the top 1%. I make a "middle-class" salary that I can't even afford medical insurance for my family on.
The average A+ certified screw-turner still only makes about 25K around here. And with 15 years of IT experience, I only beat that by a little over 1/3rd.
And it does do moral harm.... tech jobs are so scarce here that if it were possible to outsource mine I'd have to leave my home and extended family behind just to find work. That is unacceptable.
" but why should Foxconn worry that they will be unemployed?" ...because it shows Foxconn for what it is, a completely apathetic company who only views it's workforce as meat robots
You mean like most large companies that exist today? Companies can and will do anything to increase shareholder value and keep labor costs down, up to and including breaking the law.
People kill themselves in the US from job-related stress from apathetic companies all the time.
The expertise is still out there and there's a dozen places still selling pdp11 parts though they are a bit pricy.
The later QBUS MicroPDP 11's are probably the easiest to keep going and the most modern.
The trouble is finding folks with RT11 or RSX experience willing to work for 35k with no benefits. Far easier to find wannabe sysadmins with half-assed Windows server training in this category.
For the record 2.11BSD for the PDP11 still sees updates.
Should have installed FreeBSD and told them to get f**ked.
And a couple of their Salyut stations had a 23mm cannon.
BWAHAHAHAH BRAVO! Wish I had mod points.
Abso-f**king-lutely
Hell, the vast majority of Creative Suite users can't even using the scripting engine much less have a concept on how to code an implementation of CMYK, 16 bit layers or the dozen other things that GIMP is missing.
Yes, but a lot of people using Photoshop are using it because it's a "standard". Unless you're doing pro work destined for a printing press or pro photography studio, most of the features you've mentioned are non-issues. A vast majority of the people I know using Photoshop use it for graphics for web pages or stuff around the office.
I've found both modern versions of GIMP, which gets better every release, and Pixelmator more than adequate for 95% of most graphics needs. GIMP has come a LONG way. CMYK is coming.
Other than CMYK, a lot of those features didn't exist in early Photoshop either. I've been using Photoshop since 2.0 on a Mac IIci. Yet we still managed to do great stuff with those older versions.
As for InDesign.... Scribus is pretty cool but due to issues using Pantone and such it has some limits unless you put a LOT of effort into setting it up. And I betcha Quark won't go subscription and will end up back on top in that niche.
I agree though, Creative Suite is a great product. Very robust. But the subscription model will be suicide. Office is great too but if they canned the standard model and forced everyone into Office 365 people would either be running Office 2003/2007/2010 for eternity or use OpenOffice/LibreOffice.
It wasn't. You could have them in your checked-in luggage however. Carry-on in passenger compartment has never really been legal. Holes in cabin at 35,000 feet would not go well for anyone onboard.
Defense. I have a a right to be dangerous when necessary and be empowered to defend myself, my family, my property and my rights.
Fairly recent rulings determined that the police are not OBLIGATED to protect your life. When seconds count, the cops are minutes away. In my case about 45 minutes where I live.
And if someone wants my guns that badly, come get'em. I'll even give you the ammo for free. 85 grains at a time. Very quickly. At roughly 1700 ft/sec.
And semi-auto rifles in sufficient quantity with a sufficiently pissed off massive guerilla force would be a lot more effective than you think. No one goes toe-to-toe in combat anymore. It's suicide. Personally, I don't like to waste ammo. Other than suppressive fire, full auto isn't all that useful in small arms. This is why most modern military rifles are select-fire between 3-round burst and semi-automatic. One squeeze, one bang is good enough for me.
Yeah seriously..... how long was it before the Wintel world got a TCP/IP stack that wasn't a joke? I still have nightmares about Trumpet Winsock.
I hope you're not serious. Apple has NEVER found the next big thing, ever.
So....
The Pre-packaged ready-to-go personal computer.
USB (though inspired by Atari SIO)
FireWire
First successful integration of an online music store and a portable media player.
I'd say all 4 have been pretty successful.
While I'm no Jobs fan and I personally HATE iOS (and Android for that matter), NeXTstep was awesome. OSX is a modern version of NeXTstep. If you get used to its quirks and differences from Linux boxes and turn some of the retarded tablet-like features off I'd say it's the best damn desktop UNIX environment out there. Period. And I can run native MS Office and other packages that make PHB's happy. And still compile lots of open source goodies. And run them natively too.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention.... first *SUCCESSFUL* desktop UNIXish platform targeted at consumers. But that's ok because the year of the Linux desktop is just around the corner.
When's the last time a US company actually built a US product in the US with US workers?
This is a pissing contest, plain and simple. If Russia wanted to nuke us, we'd be dead already. I'm pretty sure any CPU made in the last 15 years in sufficient quantities would make a decent supercomputing platform for nuclear research.
This is a move to prevent competition.
I'm sure the Chinese will help them out. They have that little MIPS clone they're fond of.
And if you're on a cable IP range, a lot of well-configured mail servers won't accept mail from you.
There are risks, but if your replacement flames out, they can always come back to you, later.
Unless your replacement is charismatic and convinces them that the reason he flamed out is because of your "shitty unmaintainable code". After he's been there a while as a real employee instead of an "outside contractor", they'd likely believe him.
This is a common problem with IT monkeys. "VMWare? What a retard, we need to go Hyper-V and get rid of that free Linux crap and replace it with $10,000 windows packages. See! There's Windows VM's on there too. He should have gone all Windows. Linux isn't compatible."
The sad thing is that in this area, people like that make good money screwing up networks for $50/hr and I have to justify sound IT decisions because of them. I'm about f**kin' sick of the posers. I don't want to see IT regulation and licensing. Posers are making it necessary. Especially where small businesses who can't afford or simply haven't bothered hiring IT staff are concerned.
And as an added thought.... I'm sure that jury was stacked full of technically minded folks with a good grasp on networking technologies that completely understood the allegations.
Yes but if I ask you for your stuff and you give it to me, that's not theft. That's you not paying attention.
He didn't TAKE the information from the computer. He asked and it willingly gave it up. No hacking required. That makes it a public service connected to the public internet. The info contained on that public service should be fair game.
Twisting facts and being ignorant of how the internet works is no excuse for sending this guy to jail. Being an asshole wannabe is not a crime.
How often does this happen? If the collision of stars is fantastically rare, then so surely is the collision of planets equally very rare, and the collision and breakup of life-bearing planets even more so. Nor is it in any way assured that should such a cataclysmic event happen that any living organism could survive it. Surely few enough would. You are dealing here with a LARGE number of events, EACH of which is fantastically unlikely.
That would explain why SETI has been less than successful wouldn't it? I've had several 1 in a million things happen to me in 30 years. Anything can happen in 1,000,000,000. Anything you could think of probably WOULD happen in a billion years.
If Panspermia was the cause, either by transporting life or through it's creation by chemical means in the comet (along with cosmic rays), then it would be an extremely rare event. And likely part of the reason we're not picking up Alien sitcoms on TV.
It's not an unsound theory. In fact it almost makes sense. Not saying life didn't start here, but I'm not going to rule out panspermia either until more data is presented that makes it seem less reasonable.
The use of nuclear weapons will never make sense. If one side uses them than the other side would do nothing but spread the misery. Neither side would win as the only way to win is not to play.
Hmmm..... I seem to remember my Grandfather telling me about how we used them with great success in 1945. Brought the war to a quick close it did.
Yes, the game is winnable. But only if the other side doesn't have effective nukes. Which is the reason we're struggling so hard to keep minor players with big mouths out of the game. A handful of nukes means you are no longer a minor player. And actually have a meaningful say. We just can't have that.... now can we?
After you dig through a bastardized Java VM. Why not just use the kernel and slap an embedded linux userland on it and call it a day? Would be much more suited to the task and make troubleshooting easier.
Why Android, wouldn't a slim straight embedded GNU/Linux OS be a better choice from a reliability standpoint? Is there a robot finger for poking the screen? If not, Android in this situation was a solution in search of a problem.
Linux, QNX, FreeBSD or NetBSD would have all been adequate choices, likely more reliable and will all run on just about anything.
OSX is fun for a while, but corporate applications become incompatible with later versions and even things such as network printer installations don't work from version to version (let alone hardware changes and endless adapters that come out when Apple feels like it).
I have *FAR FEWER* printing issues with OSX in a corporate setting than Windows. Stop buying shitty printers. CUPS is rock-solid.
You can't get a proper menu system going,
WTF are you talking about? What kind of menu system?
nor can you get decent Linux apps to work properly on it (they are always a few versions behind and sometimes you have to pay for an outdated version).
If OSX isn't their primary target there's some differences that need to be coded around. And I've never paid for open source *NIX software. If you want a snazzy OSX front-end for something, yeah some folks want to be paid for their work.
OSX is NOT LINUX.... you can't expect everything to "just work" from Linux land. Just like you can't expect the same on a FreeBSD machine. More of it does than you think however. Install Fink or Macports.
And "a few versions behind" is total BS though they some folks drag their feet on OSX versions. And I'll deal with that since on the other hand, I have plenty of great commercial software you'll never EVER have for Linux.
Trying to get anything remotely advanced to work on it (like wireshark in promiscous mode or powertop to see wattage per application) never quite works.
Again, wrong. Never ONCE have I had an issue with Wireshark. Run it as root. If you're unsure how to do that, step away from the Mac and go play with your Windows box.
The logs are never complete in a corporate setting, so you always have intermittent "issues" connecting to wireless, joining a cross-platform domain, etc. It's an Operating System and it don't always "just work" as is often claimed.
So logging causes wireless issues? If you have inadequate logs it's because you don't know how to turn additional logging on. Familiarize yourself with the system and learn something....
Haven't had issues joining a Windows domain in years either. "Just works" only applies in Apple-land. The only thing that "just works" with Windows Server, is a Windows client. Real networks need real IT guys who can cope with this and know a bit more than the Net+ book and MS certs would get them.
Your wireless issues are likely misconfiguration or your AP firmware needs updates.
> Next to native MS office, indesign and photoshop
Those are pretty much worthless to the vast majority of people
MS Office worthless? LOL Hardly... especially if you have a job and it's mandated. Indesign is also far from worthless.
and by far not worth the limited hardware choices and increase costs you will have to deal as part of the Apple collective.
I haven't found a piece of Mac hardware yet that sucks for getting real work done. There's just no $400 Walmart option.
If photoshop is really the best you can come up with then you really are a clueless do-nothing twit that could probably get by just as well with an iPad.
Actually, no, I'm an IT Director for a smallish Oil company.
MacOS doesn't spank anything. It's a weird mixture of the bad parts of both Linux and Windows. It's not as well suported while being more closed.
The fact that the closed bits were bolted onto FreeBSD really don't change this.
Ummm... you obviously know nothing of OSX's roots and never used a NeXTstation. Get off my lawn. OSX is a Mach/BSD hybrid with history dating back to the 80's that was originally called NeXTstep. It predates both Linux and FreeBSD. The FreeBSD userland is there as it was more modern than the old 4.3BSD userland. The kernel is certainly not FreeBSD.
OSX is very well supported and is far more open than Windows. The source for the base OS is even available though fairly restricted. It may not be enough to please the freetards but it's certainly enough to make *ME* happy.
And here I thought that I was getting desktop-ready *NIX environment with a UI layer that wasn't a crufty piece of shit pretending to be something it's not. That I can still run native X11 apps on. Next to native MS office, indesign and photoshop. Without vitualization. And VMWare Fusion for situations where that's not enough or for when I want to stage a VM-based server before I deploy it.
I'll pay a couple bucks extra for that at work. And build a Hackintosh at home.
I love BSD, Linux to a degree and even X11. They are great tools. For a desktop workstation, OSX spanks Linux.... it just costs money.