My state has no gun registration.... on purpose. Private person->person sales are just peachy and require no registration. Purchases at a gun store are registered so the gun shop owner can keep his FFL but after initial purchase, guns can be sold time and time again and end up in some pawn shop somewhere. And ya know what? I like it that way.
Drive 3 hours (200 miles at 65 mph), stop for charge and lunch. Drive another 3 hours, stop for an hour break. Drive another 3 hours, and you're at your destination, so let it charge up overnight.
Who the hell drives a cool looking car 5 miles UNDER the speed limit? Speed limits on the interstate are 70 here. Less than that and you're probably asking to be killed by a 84 caddillac with bad brakes. We don't have state inspections either. People accuse me of driving like a grandma for setting the cruise at 74.
Often destinations are 50-100 miles apart. There's even a lot of 2 lane roads w/ 60mph speed limits here.
Now..... all that aside.... I would LOVE to have one of these if I could afford it. Would be great for running to town. Not practical as a primary vehicle here but awesome nonetheless.
If you're a trucker with a pee bottle that doesn't want to stop for anything, I'm sure this isn't great. For normal people, an hour break every 3 hours of driving is fine.
I'll take 15 or 20 minutes.... that's all I can usually afford. Not a trucker but my job requires a lot of field work as well as enjoying my office. The fam and I also make trips out-of-state every once in a while which this wouldn't be very useful for if we were on a schedule.
I want a turbine-electric hybrid. Can be nuclear for all I care.
Yes, it's happened on our soil. Dictated from near the top and tolerated by the top. From 1838 to 1976 it was legal to murder Mormons (women and children included) in Missouri simply for being Mormon. IIRC they weren't the only state with such hatred at the time. There were even a couple "Mormon" wars. They're Christians too, just a different flavor.
Again. All three are just as bad and just as present at the top of power chains in various nations. Ours included. We just try to brush it under the rug or pass religious sentiment as law with some flavorful spin on it.
Judging by your lengthy UID I assume you haven't been in IT very long, you're trolling or trying to be funny....
TCP/IP has been with us since the late 1970's. Was the primary protocol in use on the Internet from the early 1980's on. Windows NT has also been the least secure enterprise OS in existence. It took a decade for Windows Security to be considered anything but laughable. Now it's just mildly amusing.
More to the point, clearly you never have. Because you aren't going to be able to point out where the people there stone rape victims to death,
Nope, they just brand them whores and ostracize them if force wasn't proven.
dish out lashings to women not covering their heads,
No, they just break their face for talking to an unapproved male or because the truck broke down.... etc.
or throw people in prison (and worse) for being the wrong flavor of Christian. Get a grip.
No you're just ostracized from the community or driven out for being anything BUT Christian or maybe Jewish in more tolerant areas. They stopped burning people's houses a while back.
I'm an atheist who's lived in SC for years. I know what's up. All 3 Abrahamic religions are just as evil. The Christians are just less upfront and gossipy backstabbers about it.
Gee, let's take EVERYTHING and connect it all on a giant, publicly accessible, open network that spans the entire world using a protocol suite designed in the 70's with no security in mind.
After that let's stack most everything on top of a protocol intended to serve up static text with some images and links to other text files thrown in. And then shoehorn it into becoming an application delivery platform. And pile kludges 10 layers deep to make it sort of usable.
Seriously, if you run critical infrastructure and you connect it to a public network, you're stupid. I saw this coming as a CHILD.
Now that everything with a data port practically has a CPU capable of running general purpose code and rewritable flash.... often running Linux.... it's only going to get worse from here.
"Murder" means "premeditated killing of another human being". Deaths due to accidents due to reckless conduct are called "wrongful death". They are not even "manslaughter". But somehow wrongful death just doesn't sound as dramatic as murder.
I consider willfully and knowingly operating a vehicle when you're drunk while knowing the danger to count as premeditation. I think manslaughter should at least apply.
I won't get them. Personally I don't really care. However, if your government wants them, they will come and get them, and live to tell the tale. Never heard of SWAT teams?
My state doesn't even have any gun registration in place. Good luck with finding guns in my state. And do you know what it would cost (in both cash and human lives) to go door to door attempting to confiscate weapons? And do you REALLY think that in South Carolina, everyone is just going to stand by and let it happen? No. It would be a terrible mess.
Just because YOU won't stand up for yourself doesn't mean everyone shares your attitude. The government is not omnipotent.
Driving is a privilege, not a right. Car ownership is far more dangerous than gun ownership. Operating a car while drunk is insane
In many parts of the world, those 99% of gun owners do something wrong with their gun: owning it. (yes, in many parts of the world gun ownership itself is forbidden, except very few specific exceptions...)
Unfortunately many parts of the world live in abject tyranny. Weapons ownership is a basic human right. Murdering people with a large mechanical monster meant for transportation because you're a drunken idiot is *NOT* a basic right. Neither is murdering them with a weapon. Killing them in defense of one's own life/family/home *is*.
You will never disarm US gun owners. Ever. No matter what laws the anti-gun lobby will try to pass. Doesn't matter what you think on this. What matters is reality. THAT is reality. You will simply start a war or turn half the country into criminals. I will keep my functional semi-automatic firearms. The end. Case closed. Don't like it? Come get them. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
After all, it's your right to vote. You should be proud of who you voted for. All voters should be posted on a map including who they last voted for. Free speech, right?
Really? Apple phones have a lot of plastic as well. My 3GS certainly does.
I also had a smartphone back in 2002 or 2003 that had a full color usable touchscreen, no physical keypad, and it actually worked damn well. Samsung I300, replaced it with a Samsung I500 Palm-based flip phone later. Lots of folks I know had Windows CE-based phones (Windows Mobile) as well.
You know what? They were sturdy. And worked quite well. And I found the physical keypad on the Samsung I500 a lot less frustrating than touch dialing. My I300 even still works. Could you watch youtube videos? No. But that's only because CPU, NOT SMARTPHONE technology has advanced since then. Modern embedded GPU's are nicer too. But again, this had NOTHING to do with Apple or Steve Jobs.
You know something else? They cost less than the iPhone did on launch day. Apple just succeeded in making teenagers, cashiers and janitors feel they HAD to get one or get left behind. They didn't advance squat but their stock value.
Personally I find both the iOS and Android UI's to be clumsy pieces of crap that are tough to use effectively for real work. I could do more on an old WinMo phone. Just slower due to the age of the hardware. But I couldn't watch youtube. Or play Angry Birds. Or have a special Facebook app.
And this is coming from a *RABID* OSX user and someone who carries an iPhone mainly because it sucks less than Android to use daily.
HOW MANY TIMES do we have to hear about shooting rampages in our own schools, malls, movie theaters, workplaces, before people will begin to ask themselves if maybe their outlook is simply wrong?
I do ask myself once in a while.... and nope.... still think my outlook is right. It is not a privilege. It is a right.
How many people would have to die before you, Mr. 2nd Amendment Defender, would reconsider your own viewpoint? Just do this exercise for me - say a number out loud.
All of them.
Doubt is essential in a deliberative society. If you can never doubt your own viewpoint, then the freedom to discuss and debate it is worthless.
You're free to go ahead and not bear arms or go live in the UK or other such country where they feel citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with equal force. I respect your decision not to have firearms. But it is a basic right that I choose to exercise and I really don't care if you agree with it.
If you think society here is f**ked up now wait until your "free speech zones" start shrinking as the populace is bullied by heavily armed "peace officers" stamping out unarmed "terrorists, criminals and instigators" throwing rocks and molotov cocktails. No, I'm keeping my guns and you can go away. No debate necessary, the 2nd amendment is a done deal that was well thought out and insightful.
Let's not even get into the fact that the NRA and gun-lobby have effectively made the process of tracing how these weapons get distributed to the wrong hands is never questioned and the illicit channels aren't closed.
Um.... there's not even a gun registration system in my state. And you know what? I like it that way. Nobody, including the government, has a right to know what weapons I possess and where they are kept.
Illicit channels you speak of consist of the local want ads in the newspaper here. Welcome to America. Guns are legal here. For everyone who isn't a convicted felon. If you find that disturbing, go live in the UK and enjoy the knife crime.
We have a right to bear arms, we've always had a right to bear arms and always WILL have a right to bear arms. It's not a privilege. Period.
I'm actually with you. Was a BSD (FreeBSD and NetBSD/mac68k) user most of the 90's. I had a mac around as well but the FreeBSD box was my daily driver.
When OSX came out, I couldn't afford a recent enough mac to run it but I was always impressed by NeXTstep. I didn't get an OSX capable machine until around 2005 or so.
My primary reasons for being a rabid OSX user on the desktop vs. FreeBSD are:
- Native productivity apps that don't suck or are artificially limited due to patent concerns (i.e. Scribus) - A kickass windowing system that isn't X11. Xquartz works well for X11 apps I just gotta have. - Once configured and destupified, a UI layer that is second to none.
It takes some tweaking to get OSX tolerable.... The OSX UI is actually quite configurable if you bother digging. You just can't change the window or toolkit decorations.
There's nothing wrong with commercial *NIX OS's. Nor is there anything wrong with FreeBSD. My job required software that wasn't available natively for BSD and I'm not going to try to struggle with a VM or WINE for software I need daily. OSX had all the UNIXy goodness under the hood that's real easy to get at. OSS software through Fink or Macports. It also has a great library of familiar off-the-shelf commercial software.
Yes, OSX is different in a lot of ways.... things like changing your login shell or adding users from the command line might require a google query.... people get over it or go back to canned Linux distros they don't understand either.
Could be Apple's chance to bastardize the hell out of x86 and the PASemi guys could probably help out a bit on the power efficiency side of things. Apple also has oodles of cash in the bank.
Moto's patents may be legit, but they're asking a very high price for them. If 50 companies each ask for 2.25% royalties, it doesn't leave much...
And Apple is free not to license those patents and come up with a new and unique way of doing it. Had they not paraded around like assholes claiming they basically invented the smartphone (hint.... they didn't) and using frivolous BS patents in abusive ways MotoGoogle might be willing to license them for less. They are Google's patents, they can charge whatever they want to whoever they want for them. Don't like it? Go burn down the USPTO.
Apple decided to play conqueror and they're about to get a taste of what happens when you go up against an evenly matched enemy who's tired of your shit.
I like Apple products (OSX is awesome) but I find myself hating the company itself quite a bit over the last couple years. Halting progress with asinine lawsuits to assure market dominance is wrong. That's what got us years of crappy Win32 OS's on everybody's desk.
Any system that allows the copying of data without deleting the original or verifying your license to use the file is a pirate enabler. That makes every computing system known to man nothing but a piracy device.
Are all gun and knife manufacturers "murder enablers"? Are all US voters "tyranny enablers"? Are loud stereos "illegal public performance devices"?
I don't need web-based file storage sites to pirate warez. Or bittorrent. FTP works fine. I can name at least a dozen protocols with legit uses that enable piracy. You will NEVER stop piracy. You'll just slowly piss off legit users while your shit will get cracked and distributed DRM-free anyway. Every super-elaborate anti-piracy measure ever devised has been neutered relatively quickly.
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My state has no gun registration.... on purpose. Private person->person sales are just peachy and require no registration. Purchases at a gun store are registered so the gun shop owner can keep his FFL but after initial purchase, guns can be sold time and time again and end up in some pawn shop somewhere. And ya know what? I like it that way.
Drive 3 hours (200 miles at 65 mph), stop for charge and lunch. Drive another 3 hours, stop for an hour break. Drive another 3 hours, and you're at your destination, so let it charge up overnight.
Who the hell drives a cool looking car 5 miles UNDER the speed limit? Speed limits on the interstate are 70 here. Less than that and you're probably asking to be killed by a 84 caddillac with bad brakes. We don't have state inspections either. People accuse me of driving like a grandma for setting the cruise at 74.
Often destinations are 50-100 miles apart. There's even a lot of 2 lane roads w/ 60mph speed limits here.
Now..... all that aside.... I would LOVE to have one of these if I could afford it. Would be great for running to town. Not practical as a primary vehicle here but awesome nonetheless.
If you're a trucker with a pee bottle that doesn't want to stop for anything, I'm sure this isn't great. For normal people, an hour break every 3 hours of driving is fine.
I'll take 15 or 20 minutes.... that's all I can usually afford. Not a trucker but my job requires a lot of field work as well as enjoying my office. The fam and I also make trips out-of-state every once in a while which this wouldn't be very useful for if we were on a schedule.
I want a turbine-electric hybrid. Can be nuclear for all I care.
No, you'll work for the state or starve. You see, because you'd have a choice, it's not really socialism. ;-)
Old thread but....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44
Yes, it's happened on our soil. Dictated from near the top and tolerated by the top. From 1838 to 1976 it was legal to murder Mormons (women and children included) in Missouri simply for being Mormon. IIRC they weren't the only state with such hatred at the time. There were even a couple "Mormon" wars. They're Christians too, just a different flavor.
Again. All three are just as bad and just as present at the top of power chains in various nations. Ours included. We just try to brush it under the rug or pass religious sentiment as law with some flavorful spin on it.
Judging by your lengthy UID I assume you haven't been in IT very long, you're trolling or trying to be funny....
TCP/IP has been with us since the late 1970's. Was the primary protocol in use on the Internet from the early 1980's on. Windows NT has also been the least secure enterprise OS in existence. It took a decade for Windows Security to be considered anything but laughable. Now it's just mildly amusing.
Get off my lawn.
More to the point, clearly you never have. Because you aren't going to be able to point out where the people there stone rape victims to death,
Nope, they just brand them whores and ostracize them if force wasn't proven.
dish out lashings to women not covering their heads,
No, they just break their face for talking to an unapproved male or because the truck broke down.... etc.
or throw people in prison (and worse) for being the wrong flavor of Christian. Get a grip.
No you're just ostracized from the community or driven out for being anything BUT Christian or maybe Jewish in more tolerant areas. They stopped burning people's houses a while back.
I'm an atheist who's lived in SC for years. I know what's up. All 3 Abrahamic religions are just as evil. The Christians are just less upfront and gossipy backstabbers about it.
--Kevin
Gee, let's take EVERYTHING and connect it all on a giant, publicly accessible, open network that spans the entire world using a protocol suite designed in the 70's with no security in mind.
After that let's stack most everything on top of a protocol intended to serve up static text with some images and links to other text files thrown in. And then shoehorn it into becoming an application delivery platform. And pile kludges 10 layers deep to make it sort of usable.
Seriously, if you run critical infrastructure and you connect it to a public network, you're stupid. I saw this coming as a CHILD.
Now that everything with a data port practically has a CPU capable of running general purpose code and rewritable flash.... often running Linux.... it's only going to get worse from here.
"Murder" means "premeditated killing of another human being". Deaths due to accidents due to reckless conduct are called "wrongful death". They are not even "manslaughter". But somehow wrongful death just doesn't sound as dramatic as murder.
I consider willfully and knowingly operating a vehicle when you're drunk while knowing the danger to count as premeditation. I think manslaughter should at least apply.
I won't get them. Personally I don't really care. However, if your government wants them, they will come and get them, and live to tell the tale. Never heard of SWAT teams?
My state doesn't even have any gun registration in place. Good luck with finding guns in my state. And do you know what it would cost (in both cash and human lives) to go door to door attempting to confiscate weapons? And do you REALLY think that in South Carolina, everyone is just going to stand by and let it happen? No. It would be a terrible mess.
Just because YOU won't stand up for yourself doesn't mean everyone shares your attitude. The government is not omnipotent.
Driving drunk is ALWAYS wrong.
Because it's defined that way, d'oh...
Driving is a privilege, not a right. Car ownership is far more dangerous than gun ownership. Operating a car while drunk is insane
In many parts of the world, those 99% of gun owners do something wrong with their gun: owning it. (yes, in many parts of the world gun ownership itself is forbidden, except very few specific exceptions...)
Unfortunately many parts of the world live in abject tyranny. Weapons ownership is a basic human right. Murdering people with a large mechanical monster meant for transportation because you're a drunken idiot is *NOT* a basic right. Neither is murdering them with a weapon. Killing them in defense of one's own life/family/home *is*.
You will never disarm US gun owners. Ever. No matter what laws the anti-gun lobby will try to pass. Doesn't matter what you think on this. What matters is reality. THAT is reality. You will simply start a war or turn half the country into criminals. I will keep my functional semi-automatic firearms. The end. Case closed. Don't like it? Come get them. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
After all, it's your right to vote. You should be proud of who you voted for. All voters should be posted on a map including who they last voted for. Free speech, right?
Really? Apple phones have a lot of plastic as well. My 3GS certainly does.
I also had a smartphone back in 2002 or 2003 that had a full color usable touchscreen, no physical keypad, and it actually worked damn well. Samsung I300, replaced it with a Samsung I500 Palm-based flip phone later. Lots of folks I know had Windows CE-based phones (Windows Mobile) as well.
You know what? They were sturdy. And worked quite well. And I found the physical keypad on the Samsung I500 a lot less frustrating than touch dialing. My I300 even still works. Could you watch youtube videos? No. But that's only because CPU, NOT SMARTPHONE technology has advanced since then. Modern embedded GPU's are nicer too. But again, this had NOTHING to do with Apple or Steve Jobs.
You know something else? They cost less than the iPhone did on launch day. Apple just succeeded in making teenagers, cashiers and janitors feel they HAD to get one or get left behind. They didn't advance squat but their stock value.
Personally I find both the iOS and Android UI's to be clumsy pieces of crap that are tough to use effectively for real work. I could do more on an old WinMo phone. Just slower due to the age of the hardware. But I couldn't watch youtube. Or play Angry Birds. Or have a special Facebook app.
And this is coming from a *RABID* OSX user and someone who carries an iPhone mainly because it sucks less than Android to use daily.
Just because a small child can fumble through it doesn't make it an attractive platform for getting real work done.
Neither, both will kill you just as dead. Especially if they are bigger than you.
They survived because:
A.) The knife wasn't big enough.
B.) He aimed for nothing truly vital. Sorry, a messy knife wound to the heart or lungs is pretty much a death sentence.
A knife will kill you just as dead as a gun with just as much if not more pain. In fact, you can bleed out quicker from a well-delivered knife wound.
It's not like explosives are rocket science there guy.... materials for some pretty nasty ones are pretty common. Want to ban questionable books too?
HOW MANY TIMES do we have to hear about shooting rampages in our own schools, malls, movie theaters, workplaces, before people will begin to ask themselves if maybe their outlook is simply wrong?
I do ask myself once in a while.... and nope.... still think my outlook is right. It is not a privilege. It is a right.
How many people would have to die before you, Mr. 2nd Amendment Defender, would reconsider your own viewpoint? Just do this exercise for me - say a number out loud.
All of them.
Doubt is essential in a deliberative society. If you can never doubt your own viewpoint, then the freedom to discuss and debate it is worthless.
You're free to go ahead and not bear arms or go live in the UK or other such country where they feel citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with equal force. I respect your decision not to have firearms. But it is a basic right that I choose to exercise and I really don't care if you agree with it.
If you think society here is f**ked up now wait until your "free speech zones" start shrinking as the populace is bullied by heavily armed "peace officers" stamping out unarmed "terrorists, criminals and instigators" throwing rocks and molotov cocktails. No, I'm keeping my guns and you can go away. No debate necessary, the 2nd amendment is a done deal that was well thought out and insightful.
Let's not even get into the fact that the NRA and gun-lobby have effectively made the process of tracing how these weapons get distributed to the wrong hands is never questioned and the illicit channels aren't closed.
Um.... there's not even a gun registration system in my state. And you know what? I like it that way. Nobody, including the government, has a right to know what weapons I possess and where they are kept.
Illicit channels you speak of consist of the local want ads in the newspaper here. Welcome to America. Guns are legal here. For everyone who isn't a convicted felon. If you find that disturbing, go live in the UK and enjoy the knife crime.
We have a right to bear arms, we've always had a right to bear arms and always WILL have a right to bear arms. It's not a privilege. Period.
You do know that gun ownership and use is seriously regulated in Switzerland and that they don't have a standing army, right?
You generally don't need a standing army unless you are engaging in wars of aggression. A well-equipped militia is adequate for national defense.
I'm actually with you. Was a BSD (FreeBSD and NetBSD/mac68k) user most of the 90's. I had a mac around as well but the FreeBSD box was my daily driver.
When OSX came out, I couldn't afford a recent enough mac to run it but I was always impressed by NeXTstep. I didn't get an OSX capable machine until around 2005 or so.
My primary reasons for being a rabid OSX user on the desktop vs. FreeBSD are:
- Native productivity apps that don't suck or are artificially limited due to patent concerns (i.e. Scribus)
- A kickass windowing system that isn't X11. Xquartz works well for X11 apps I just gotta have.
- Once configured and destupified, a UI layer that is second to none.
It takes some tweaking to get OSX tolerable.... The OSX UI is actually quite configurable if you bother digging. You just can't change the window or toolkit decorations.
There's nothing wrong with commercial *NIX OS's. Nor is there anything wrong with FreeBSD. My job required software that wasn't available natively for BSD and I'm not going to try to struggle with a VM or WINE for software I need daily. OSX had all the UNIXy goodness under the hood that's real easy to get at. OSS software through Fink or Macports. It also has a great library of familiar off-the-shelf commercial software.
Yes, OSX is different in a lot of ways.... things like changing your login shell or adding users from the command line might require a google query.... people get over it or go back to canned Linux distros they don't understand either.
Server-side I still prefer FreeBSD.
They'd also get ATI out of the deal wouldn't they?
Could be Apple's chance to bastardize the hell out of x86 and the PASemi guys could probably help out a bit on the power efficiency side of things. Apple also has oodles of cash in the bank.
Moto's patents may be legit, but they're asking a very high price for them. If 50 companies each ask for 2.25% royalties, it doesn't leave much...
And Apple is free not to license those patents and come up with a new and unique way of doing it. Had they not paraded around like assholes claiming they basically invented the smartphone (hint.... they didn't) and using frivolous BS patents in abusive ways MotoGoogle might be willing to license them for less. They are Google's patents, they can charge whatever they want to whoever they want for them. Don't like it? Go burn down the USPTO.
Apple decided to play conqueror and they're about to get a taste of what happens when you go up against an evenly matched enemy who's tired of your shit.
I like Apple products (OSX is awesome) but I find myself hating the company itself quite a bit over the last couple years. Halting progress with asinine lawsuits to assure market dominance is wrong. That's what got us years of crappy Win32 OS's on everybody's desk.
So..... we're at war with Pakistan?
Any field is a field of combat when you drop a Hellfire in it.
An apology is a lot better than a:
"Yep, we did! But you can't do anything about it because it's a state secret we broke the law in the first place and we're going to keep doing it!"
That's a typical US govt response when confronted with hard evidence of illegal wrongdoing.
Any system that allows the copying of data without deleting the original or verifying your license to use the file is a pirate enabler. That makes every computing system known to man nothing but a piracy device.
Are all gun and knife manufacturers "murder enablers"? Are all US voters "tyranny enablers"? Are loud stereos "illegal public performance devices"?
I don't need web-based file storage sites to pirate warez. Or bittorrent. FTP works fine. I can name at least a dozen protocols with legit uses that enable piracy. You will NEVER stop piracy. You'll just slowly piss off legit users while your shit will get cracked and distributed DRM-free anyway. Every super-elaborate anti-piracy measure ever devised has been neutered relatively quickly.