If you have alot of money you already do pay for information, and if you go to IGN.com or the internet its usually because you dont have the money to subscribe to the magazine, buy the expensive books or afford the satelite tv services.
Most people using the net are college students and teenagers and in the current economy these groups of people have no jobs. I'm making $8 an hour and you expect me to pay for the internet? Go to hell.
You are talking about teenagers and college students. The teenager or the college student has the most free time yet the least amount of money so they surf the web and use the net all day because they have no job, duh.
Now to the few who do have a job, they will most likely only visit just a few sites and these people already use Itunes.
Last problem is, we dont have a major problem with paying for content. When the economy was good advertisements paid for content, when the economy picks up ads will pay for most internet content just like it pays for radio, tv, and all other devices.
This isnt new, most people do not like to pay for radio or for tv, why would you expect us to pay for the internet? Micropayments will never work, only rich people will support something like this and most young people who are from working class families do not have the money and would be simply priced out if slashdot or ign goes micropayment.
Not very powerful. Ximian would be canned because they dont profit. Suse would be streamlined and focus mostly on big business, this would leave small businesses to Redhat.
Redhat would re-open Redhat network and focus on the small business.
I think of all the companies which could buy Novell Cisco would be the best company to do it, they have the money, the strength to not be influenced by Microsoft, and they are the smartest most profitable company.
Both of these companies are more likely to buy Suse than IBM.
IBM has nothing to gain by buying Novell/SUSE, IBM does not make money in that market, IBM is a more upscale enterprise based company and would buy Redhat before buying Novell/SUSE simply because IBM has no use for the Novell part of the picture or the Ximian part.
I think Oracle would have the most to gain by buying Suse, I think Lucent is on a roll right now and could buy them too but really there arent many companies who have the money to buy them who actually think its profitable to do so.
its not even the same type of software, the audacity people arent even in the same league, this is like comparing mozilla composer to microsoft visual studio.
Actually Suse and Novell have been close for a while, but the decision to finally buy them could have came in a matter of weeks.
Redhat announced what they wanted to do months ago.
Suse was positioned to take Redhats spot and Redhat is making critical errors, suddenly the tide is turning in favor of Suse, Novell purchases Suse, IBM backs Suse, and Redhat becomes #2.
The guy is a sellout, I dont care if he is a business genius, hes sold out like Bill Gates.
Lets get behind Michael Robertson, you may not like the man but the man is not a sellout, he wasnt when he got rich at Mp3.com and hes not a sellout now.
Microsoft paid him to say that shit, thats ridiculous bullshit, how can he say just a month or two ago that Linux is ready to take the Desktop and then do a complete 180
A few months ago the CEO of Redhat said Linux on the Desktop was the future, suddenly SCO goes crazy!
I think Bill Gates paid the CEO of SCO, and now hes paid the CEO of Redhat.
Its simple, millions of dollars in exchange for abandoning the Linux community.
Bullshit, you cannot do rapid development with VI.
The whole point of visual studio is to interface with OO, also we need tools which automate, and which allow us to quickly bugfix code. I dont know which world you come from but there you can debug code easily with visual studio, you can also create interactive GUIs and reuse code much easier when its GUI based and point and click.
When someone can point and click to reuse code they will do it, but when it requires real effort they might now. Also user interface development, as linux becomes more GUI based those console based apps wont cut it.
You'd think with all these Linux users who happen to be programmers that they'd make the most advanced sophisticated programming tools, but Linux programming tools are for the most part crap, the only decent programming tool is Kdevelop.
So as a rule everyone who uses Kdevelop to write code should add a feature or fix a bug in Kdevelop.
We need USEFUL applications, we do not need reinvented wheel, oh another music player, oh another web browser, oh another email application, another word processor, ANOTHER IM CLIENT, ANOTHER TERMINAL!!!!
Damnit if you arent going to make something new, work with people who already made it, or at least reuse code.
Why the hell do we need another music player? I bet theres already 100 music players that are half finished and not a single one of them as good as Winamp.
How much longer until we get a completely SVG user interface? Thats the main feature I want, I also would like them to work on making it faster.
Why arent they trying to optimize the current code before adding new features? KDE is slow!
I disagree!! Redhat is not Linux, remember IBM is
Linux.
Suse works just fine, so does Lindows, if Redhat wants to be stupid their competitors gain market share.
I say we let Redhat explain theirself before we sa y its the end.
Exactly! you are on point dawg!
I can't believe no one else here can see this. Also its a fucking shock/surprise, Redhat didnt mention their plans to do this shit so I'm pissed.
How do you figure? The Redhat Line was their main fucking line for all these years, Enterprise is somewhat new, all this crap about Redhat expanding to support the workstation, edu, desktop market and now this?
WTF?!
They cant be serious, I mean even microsoft is not this stupid.
I dont mind them switching focus but damn at least give us a year! I just upgraded to Redhat 9.0 and I hear that its obsolete?!
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If you have alot of money you already do pay for information, and if you go to IGN.com or the internet its usually because you dont have the money to subscribe to the magazine, buy the expensive books or afford the satelite tv services. Most people using the net are college students and teenagers and in the current economy these groups of people have no jobs. I'm making $8 an hour and you expect me to pay for the internet? Go to hell.
You are talking about teenagers and college students. The teenager or the college student has the most free time yet the least amount of money so they surf the web and use the net all day because they have no job, duh. Now to the few who do have a job, they will most likely only visit just a few sites and these people already use Itunes. Last problem is, we dont have a major problem with paying for content. When the economy was good advertisements paid for content, when the economy picks up ads will pay for most internet content just like it pays for radio, tv, and all other devices. This isnt new, most people do not like to pay for radio or for tv, why would you expect us to pay for the internet? Micropayments will never work, only rich people will support something like this and most young people who are from working class families do not have the money and would be simply priced out if slashdot or ign goes micropayment.
Open source not ready for desktop, IBM told UK government IBM Says its not ready
IBM might like the idea but look if they do, Ximian is dead. I really hope they dont because IBM would have too much influence on the Linux community
Not very powerful. Ximian would be canned because they dont profit. Suse would be streamlined and focus mostly on big business, this would leave small businesses to Redhat. Redhat would re-open Redhat network and focus on the small business.
I think of all the companies which could buy Novell Cisco would be the best company to do it, they have the money, the strength to not be influenced by Microsoft, and they are the smartest most profitable company.
Both of these companies are more likely to buy Suse than IBM. IBM has nothing to gain by buying Novell/SUSE, IBM does not make money in that market, IBM is a more upscale enterprise based company and would buy Redhat before buying Novell/SUSE simply because IBM has no use for the Novell part of the picture or the Ximian part. I think Oracle would have the most to gain by buying Suse, I think Lucent is on a roll right now and could buy them too but really there arent many companies who have the money to buy them who actually think its profitable to do so.
its not even the same type of software, the audacity people arent even in the same league, this is like comparing mozilla composer to microsoft visual studio.
Fruityloop for Linux, howabout Kloop.
Actually Suse and Novell have been close for a while, but the decision to finally buy them could have came in a matter of weeks. Redhat announced what they wanted to do months ago.
Suse was positioned to take Redhats spot and Redhat is making critical errors, suddenly the tide is turning in favor of Suse, Novell purchases Suse, IBM backs Suse, and Redhat becomes #2.
The guy is a sellout, I dont care if he is a business genius, hes sold out like Bill Gates. Lets get behind Michael Robertson, you may not like the man but the man is not a sellout, he wasnt when he got rich at Mp3.com and hes not a sellout now.
Microsoft paid him to say that shit, thats ridiculous bullshit, how can he say just a month or two ago that Linux is ready to take the Desktop and then do a complete 180
A few months ago the CEO of Redhat said Linux on the Desktop was the future, suddenly SCO goes crazy! I think Bill Gates paid the CEO of SCO, and now hes paid the CEO of Redhat. Its simple, millions of dollars in exchange for abandoning the Linux community.
You are dying of cancer and you care about the side effects the cure might have?
KDE needs to take drastic measures to compete with storage and prepare for the future.
Bullshit, you cannot do rapid development with VI. The whole point of visual studio is to interface with OO, also we need tools which automate, and which allow us to quickly bugfix code. I dont know which world you come from but there you can debug code easily with visual studio, you can also create interactive GUIs and reuse code much easier when its GUI based and point and click. When someone can point and click to reuse code they will do it, but when it requires real effort they might now. Also user interface development, as linux becomes more GUI based those console based apps wont cut it.
You'd think with all these Linux users who happen to be programmers that they'd make the most advanced sophisticated programming tools, but Linux programming tools are for the most part crap, the only decent programming tool is Kdevelop. So as a rule everyone who uses Kdevelop to write code should add a feature or fix a bug in Kdevelop.
We need USEFUL applications, we do not need reinvented wheel, oh another music player, oh another web browser, oh another email application, another word processor, ANOTHER IM CLIENT, ANOTHER TERMINAL!!!! Damnit if you arent going to make something new, work with people who already made it, or at least reuse code. Why the hell do we need another music player? I bet theres already 100 music players that are half finished and not a single one of them as good as Winamp.
How much longer until we get a completely SVG user interface? Thats the main feature I want, I also would like them to work on making it faster. Why arent they trying to optimize the current code before adding new features? KDE is slow!
I disagree!! Redhat is not Linux, remember IBM is Linux. Suse works just fine, so does Lindows, if Redhat wants to be stupid their competitors gain market share. I say we let Redhat explain theirself before we sa y its the end.
This is a nail in the coffin for linux? are you people out of your fucking minds?!!!
Exactly! you are on point dawg! I can't believe no one else here can see this. Also its a fucking shock/surprise, Redhat didnt mention their plans to do this shit so I'm pissed.
How do you figure? The Redhat Line was their main fucking line for all these years, Enterprise is somewhat new, all this crap about Redhat expanding to support the workstation, edu, desktop market and now this? WTF?!
They cant be serious, I mean even microsoft is not this stupid. I dont mind them switching focus but damn at least give us a year! I just upgraded to Redhat 9.0 and I hear that its obsolete?!