I agree with Mr. Love's assertion that the gpl can be too restrictive to be used in product based business. It's nice that everything has to be free (as in speech), but if a business wants to innovate and sell that innovation, there's not much incentive to do so if your competition can copy your innovation in an hour or two. Altho, I should recall that the only way that such a company would be bound by the GPL is by using GPL'd software as a component in theirs... which would mean that they're lazy, taking but not giving, and so maybe they should burn in hell:)
There are some loud zeolots out there that will only be happy if everything under the sun is GPL'd... but most people are happy with moderation:) To generalize that the entire community is over-zealous is silly.
Yah, I'm still looking forward to the day when transmeta based portables are available. Mmmm many hours of constant use... heh. I'm wondering what's taking them so long. I figure that the market is ready for something that has helluh long battery life. I just hope that it wont be too expensive.
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now that i have it downloaded... still slow, font selection in preferences is still odd - only lists helvetica... but other than that, its looking fine. I'll post more once I have used it enough to make a valid statement regarding stability. btw, im posting with it now.
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This time, I've got the ftp site in my bookmarks:P While this downloads, I, as many of you I'm sure, are worried that it's still going to be very buggy. Here's hoping that the mean uptime is good and high - I'd be willing to sacrifice speed/some features for stability.
This is wonderful. I wonder if they'll allow deep linking into gimp functions - it'd be neat if I could make a script that would adjust the image urls, such that I could 'ripple a page' (just the images on the page anyway) or do a contrast image on the page as i view it. This sort of thing might be neat functionality to build into a mozilla plugin. Help for the visually impared? Also, using the text plugin sites could autogenerate text images using crazy fonts and autoplug into their site. This is of course provided that the gimp site thingie posts via 'get' but I havnt checked that yet. Cool tho:)
If you ask me, i'd say that this is a pretty low quality ask slashdot question. Read pretty much ANY security book and they'll cover honeypots. It's like me doing an ask slashdot asking "Does X4 support truetype fonts?".
Yah, that's legitimate use in my books:) Its odd to see how many people try to suggest that songs shouldnt be copyrighted. thats crazy as far as im concerned. good post - id mod up, but i started this thread, and cant:)
I agree totally. Altho, the word censorship was used because napster could help to maintain the availability of such things as decss and the cyber patrol things; the legality of which is debatable. But I agree that the major use of napster/gnutella is mp3, and I imagine that it's going to move into teh warez arena sooner or later.
Napster/Gnutella was designed to facilitate the distribution of private mp3 collections. These will generally consist of copyrighted material. I think that its important that people not forget that, while the music companies are big and evil, they have rights too. That means that they have a legitimate gripe with the free distribution of material that they've paid to protect and that they want to sell. I know that napster can be used to distribute other non-copyrighted material, and that's great, but lets not forget the tainted ground on which the thing started. I'm a big free speech advocate, and I download mp3s too, but lets not be totally ignorant as to why napster was created.
I know that your article wasnt attacking linux, but, you should check linux out and see what all of the hype is about... there is a reason behind all of the zealots:)
how about mounting a pager number or a fax machine or an instant messaging client? or even an email client. Anything that gets dragged and dropped gets sent. It'd be useful here to put filesize limits of course:)
Dont be discouraged if they tell you that it will be a long time before Jason gets all of his memories back. If you fell in love once, you will again:) Keep hope, and stay optimistic and talk with those close to you; I'm sure that they'll be there to support you. Hang in there, and hang in there, both of you. You have the best wishes from tens of thousands of people.
Now that mp3s and public domain music at mp3.com is out, I have walked away. I urge more people to do so. And if you need the newest label releases, listen to the radio, watch mtv or much music or just pirate (but remember, you're taking a few cents away from the artist, and dollars from the companies [does the end justify the means?]).
Why not just use a standard like FTP for it? I mean, if you want to distribute yer stuff, register yer FTP server on something like scour or some other indexing engine. Why reinvent the wheel?
Well, what I'd like to see more, is a plugin that acts like the junkbuster proxy. That way, you can just filter those URLs. (automatically not get stuff from that domain)
Check out http://www.msnbc.com/news/380065.asp?0m=N1DQ for info about a group that plans to enact these planned organized denial of service attacks. I'd like to see them offer a forum for registering causes and attacks and such - id rather protest something other than GMOs.
from what ive seen, most 'look perdy' scripts arent that complex, and arent too hard to make cross browser. This summer I made a javascript layers thing that did popup windows that i could theme (sorta like a webpage windowmanager) and it went cross browser (had to write 2 versions pretty much hehe) but I think that you can sell the cross browserness as a feature, more than you can any eye candy... i mean, you can tell them that it should work pretty much anywhere.
As far as mozilla goes... heh, I hope that it gets everything working soon, because so far, its only a project, not a product.
Well, learn to develop cross browser stuff... try to keep away from using scripting languages and do stuff on the server side instead. There ARE ways to make things work without sacrificing portability...
The software in question does not infact defeat the blocking software. It simply decrypts the blocked sites list for inspection. Also, simple documents that criticize cyber patrol are being blocked.
well, I dont think that the new X is supposed to look at all different... the look is the job of the window manager, not the xserver... the only thing that you may be able to see is the truetype font rendering - you dont exactly get full motion video in a jpg screenshot:)
I'll bet that, since I already use xfstt and dont have a 3d card... that I wont notice a thing in 4 that I didnt in 3... except that i'll have to relearn how to set it up:) maybe i wont bother downloading it for a while... at least not until its a deb:)
Okay, lets stop with the assumptions. As someone has reiterated... IE is NOT fully standards compliant. With the exception of Mozilla, IE is the most standards compliant browser available. And yes, Mozilla is still buggy as hell... but thats because its ALPHA software. IE is release. I use windows fairly often - and im even considering an MCSE and such... but I dont back either browser totally. I like linux better than windows - whether some of that is subjective or not, its irrelivant - i like it better - so I'll use the best browser I can for it. Right now, thats NS4.x, soon it'll be mozilla. It'll probably never be IE. On windows, I'll probably use IE over Mozilla because I wont have to download it. (there goes that monopoly thing again). Also, if you want to have your oppinion respected a bit more, you should really post as something other than an anonymous coward... then we know who we're responding to.
Because its for linux and its better than netscape 4.x. Also, its supposed to be better than IE eventually. CSS level 2 isnt even a defined standard yet (last i heard) and so IE does NOT support it, since its probably already different. Mozilla will introduce support for those technologies when they're released - not prematurly like IE which wants to boast more features and get people to say silly stuff like you just did.
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I agree with Mr. Love's assertion that the gpl can be too restrictive to be used in product based business. It's nice that everything has to be free (as in speech), but if a business wants to innovate and sell that innovation, there's not much incentive to do so if your competition can copy your innovation in an hour or two. Altho, I should recall that the only way that such a company would be bound by the GPL is by using GPL'd software as a component in theirs... which would mean that they're lazy, taking but not giving, and so maybe they should burn in hell :)
There are some loud zeolots out there that will only be happy if everything under the sun is GPL'd... but most people are happy with moderation :) To generalize that the entire community is over-zealous is silly.
Yah, I'm still looking forward to the day when transmeta based portables are available. Mmmm many hours of constant use... heh. I'm wondering what's taking them so long. I figure that the market is ready for something that has helluh long battery life. I just hope that it wont be too expensive.
now that i have it downloaded... still slow, font selection in preferences is still odd - only lists helvetica... but other than that, its looking fine. I'll post more once I have used it enough to make a valid statement regarding stability. btw, im posting with it now.
This time, I've got the ftp site in my bookmarks :P While this downloads, I, as many of you I'm sure, are worried that it's still going to be very buggy. Here's hoping that the mean uptime is good and high - I'd be willing to sacrifice speed/some features for stability.
This is wonderful. I wonder if they'll allow deep linking into gimp functions - it'd be neat if I could make a script that would adjust the image urls, such that I could 'ripple a page' (just the images on the page anyway) or do a contrast image on the page as i view it. This sort of thing might be neat functionality to build into a mozilla plugin. Help for the visually impared? Also, using the text plugin sites could autogenerate text images using crazy fonts and autoplug into their site. This is of course provided that the gimp site thingie posts via 'get' but I havnt checked that yet. Cool tho :)
If you ask me, i'd say that this is a pretty low quality ask slashdot question. Read pretty much ANY security book and they'll cover honeypots. It's like me doing an ask slashdot asking "Does X4 support truetype fonts?".
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Yah, that's legitimate use in my books :) Its odd to see how many people try to suggest that songs shouldnt be copyrighted. thats crazy as far as im concerned. good post - id mod up, but i started this thread, and cant :)
I agree totally. Altho, the word censorship was used because napster could help to maintain the availability of such things as decss and the cyber patrol things; the legality of which is debatable. But I agree that the major use of napster/gnutella is mp3, and I imagine that it's going to move into teh warez arena sooner or later.
Napster/Gnutella was designed to facilitate the distribution of private mp3 collections. These will generally consist of copyrighted material. I think that its important that people not forget that, while the music companies are big and evil, they have rights too. That means that they have a legitimate gripe with the free distribution of material that they've paid to protect and that they want to sell. I know that napster can be used to distribute other non-copyrighted material, and that's great, but lets not forget the tainted ground on which the thing started. I'm a big free speech advocate, and I download mp3s too, but lets not be totally ignorant as to why napster was created.
I know that your article wasnt attacking linux, but, you should check linux out and see what all of the hype is about... there is a reason behind all of the zealots :)
We should be allow to moderate into oblivion. This post is in the more terrible of taste. Geeze.
how about mounting a pager number or a fax machine or an instant messaging client? or even an email client. Anything that gets dragged and dropped gets sent. It'd be useful here to put filesize limits of course :)
Dont be discouraged if they tell you that it will be a long time before Jason gets all of his memories back. If you fell in love once, you will again :) Keep hope, and stay optimistic and talk with those close to you; I'm sure that they'll be there to support you. Hang in there, and hang in there, both of you. You have the best wishes from tens of thousands of people.
Now that mp3s and public domain music at mp3.com is out, I have walked away. I urge more people to do so. And if you need the newest label releases, listen to the radio, watch mtv or much music or just pirate (but remember, you're taking a few cents away from the artist, and dollars from the companies [does the end justify the means?]).
Why not just use a standard like FTP for it? I mean, if you want to distribute yer stuff, register yer FTP server on something like scour or some other indexing engine. Why reinvent the wheel?
Well, what I'd like to see more, is a plugin that acts like the junkbuster proxy. That way, you can just filter those URLs. (automatically not get stuff from that domain)
Check out http://www.msnbc.com/news/380065.asp?0m=N1DQ for info about a group that plans to enact these planned organized denial of service attacks. I'd like to see them offer a forum for registering causes and attacks and such - id rather protest something other than GMOs.
from what ive seen, most 'look perdy' scripts arent that complex, and arent too hard to make cross browser. This summer I made a javascript layers thing that did popup windows that i could theme (sorta like a webpage windowmanager) and it went cross browser (had to write 2 versions pretty much hehe) but I think that you can sell the cross browserness as a feature, more than you can any eye candy... i mean, you can tell them that it should work pretty much anywhere.
As far as mozilla goes... heh, I hope that it gets everything working soon, because so far, its only a project, not a product.
Well, learn to develop cross browser stuff... try to keep away from using scripting languages and do stuff on the server side instead. There ARE ways to make things work without sacrificing portability...
The software in question does not infact defeat the blocking software. It simply decrypts the blocked sites list for inspection. Also, simple documents that criticize cyber patrol are being blocked.
well, I dont think that the new X is supposed to look at all different... the look is the job of the window manager, not the xserver... the only thing that you may be able to see is the truetype font rendering - you dont exactly get full motion video in a jpg screenshot :)
I'll bet that, since I already use xfstt and dont have a 3d card... that I wont notice a thing in 4 that I didnt in 3... except that i'll have to relearn how to set it up :) maybe i wont bother downloading it for a while... at least not until its a deb :)
Okay, lets stop with the assumptions. As someone has reiterated... IE is NOT fully standards compliant. With the exception of Mozilla, IE is the most standards compliant browser available. And yes, Mozilla is still buggy as hell... but thats because its ALPHA software. IE is release. I use windows fairly often - and im even considering an MCSE and such... but I dont back either browser totally. I like linux better than windows - whether some of that is subjective or not, its irrelivant - i like it better - so I'll use the best browser I can for it. Right now, thats NS4.x, soon it'll be mozilla. It'll probably never be IE. On windows, I'll probably use IE over Mozilla because I wont have to download it. (there goes that monopoly thing again). Also, if you want to have your oppinion respected a bit more, you should really post as something other than an anonymous coward... then we know who we're responding to.
Because its for linux and its better than netscape 4.x. Also, its supposed to be better than IE eventually. CSS level 2 isnt even a defined standard yet (last i heard) and so IE does NOT support it, since its probably already different. Mozilla will introduce support for those technologies when they're released - not prematurly like IE which wants to boast more features and get people to say silly stuff like you just did.