And then pretend that the prototype you build on Fedora core is ready to go live, but you need a support contract to get funding approved. Who's going to support it? And who's going to buy the excuse that "some Redhat employees used to hang out on the Fedora mailing list, so we don't need to test it when we switch distros before going into production."
A company bleeding financially doesn't have the luxury of looking at TCO. They're worried about immediate costs. That means cost-cutting. That means *not* transitioning to new operating systems and porting and testing all their products and data to them.
Fedora will not be compatible with Redhat Enterprise. Redhat will not support Fedora. Redhat employees will not work on Fedora as the company's representatives. Redhat has chosen to abandon its tens of thousands of box sales per year for a dozen "enterprise" contracts. Redhat was making way more selling cardboard boxes at Best Buy and Walmart, minus the cost of their bandwidth for free downloads, than they have ever made from 'enterprise linux.'
I've been kicking myself for not buying Redhat shares the last 3 years. Now I'm glad I didn't.
Free Redhat == Mandrake or Caldera or a hundred other variations, but they're not selling enterprise systems the way redhat is. Oh yeah, and they're not compatible anymore.
necessary to dig deeper to find coal? You've got to be kidding! There is so much coal, lying on the surface, just waiting to be gouged out of the landscape that it would keep us in fossil fuels at current consumption for millenia. Coal is more polluting and less efficient than oil, that's the only reason we don't use it as much any more.
A is unachievable
B may be possible
People drive around big SUVs that get 15-20 miles to the gallon, even though I'm sure they feel alot less powerful than they would if they were getting the kind of gas mileage a 1970s era station wagon got (say 6-8 mpg.)
The geek solution is to solve the problem, not avoid it.
So finally you get to your real concerns, which I share with you:
1. The companies that are contracted to maintain/build roads and paid with tax dollars are being paid too much due to graft, corruption, and government cronyism
2. The insurance companies and/or government health care programs have skewed the true cost of mdeical treatment so that people cannot afford it, and it is not feasible to provide proper health care to most people.
Where we seem to still disagree is whether:
3. A per-unit tax is a fair way to distribute the cost of road usage on vehicles, thereby encouraging fuel efficiency and reducing pollution.
So you know how to use the bold tag in HTML. Do you know anything else, or are you as ignorant of all other topics as your post would lead one to believe?
Only they give a tax credit for more efficient vehicles. Almost all the money spent on roads comes directly from gasoline tax. The less gas you use, the less tax you pay. And vice versa.
Actually, thanks to the miracle of gasoline (and diesel) it didn't cost more to ship the apples. It is cheaper to make cookies in Jamaica and ship the to Singapore and then to the USA, and then to Canada, than to make them in Canada. And not just because of Canadian labor and tax costs, but because dead dinosaurs are so plentiful and gas guzzling SUVs are so efficient, that it costs only a tiny fraction of that 87 cents Canadian (about 4 bits real money), to ship it practically all the way around the world.
PS. You're probably wrong about where they were made and where they were shipped to.
Once upon a time we were taught that our petrolium was the excrement of dead dinosaurs, apparently in an attempt to evoke sympathy for such cuddly man-eating creatures and provoke guilt when driving pre-SUV gas guzzling Ford Explorer II and Cadillacs. But after the debut of the movie Jurassic Park, when little children learned that dinosaurs are NOT YOUR FRIEND, and over-playing of Barney convinced adults of the same, textbooks were re-written to claim massive hemp-like lod growth ferns were the originators of our gasoline, all the while, geologists, archaeologist and evil oil men alike shook their heads in disgust at the deliberately false and naive claims of the self-righteous, ignorant cultists because THE OIL THAT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND DOES NOT COME FROM PLANTS OR ANIMALS!!! It never did.
The funny thing is, that the government does not fully support the current president. The US government, although the UK is getting almost as bad, is not a dictatorship on policy or opinion, and in fact, is representative of the variety of opinions of the people. Most of the American government apparatus in particular is highly critical, and even hostile to the elected president at this time, and most of them will still be in place long after he is gone. A large majority of the media is serving their interests.
That's terrible. I'm a developer and frequent visitor to Mozilla.org, and I can't tell anything about that page in 30 seconds except that they don't want me to download, they want to sell something, I'm not sure what.
Since I've got 2 minutes, I realized that there is a download link, but it's hidden at the bottom of a product endorsement box
Thunderbird does do a good job of improving the menu , but it's lack of integration with the browser is a pain, especially since you can't even view emails as email instead html pages in Thunderbird either. Next to that, open link in new tab is the most important feature.
Nike has kept a fairly consistent logo, but MicroSoft, Coco-Cola and Pepsi change there's every few years. Coke brings back a slight variation on their old cursive logo from time to time, though.
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And then pretend that the prototype you build on Fedora core is ready to go live, but you need a support contract to get funding approved. Who's going to support it? And who's going to buy the excuse that "some Redhat employees used to hang out on the Fedora mailing list, so we don't need to test it when we switch distros before going into production."
A company bleeding financially doesn't have the luxury of looking at TCO. They're worried about immediate costs. That means cost-cutting. That means *not* transitioning to new operating systems and porting and testing all their products and data to them.
'still' is a mighty fancy term for something that hasn't happened yet.
Fedora will not be compatible with Redhat Enterprise. Redhat will not support Fedora. Redhat employees will not work on Fedora as the company's representatives. Redhat has chosen to abandon its tens of thousands of box sales per year for a dozen "enterprise" contracts. Redhat was making way more selling cardboard boxes at Best Buy and Walmart, minus the cost of their bandwidth for free downloads, than they have ever made from 'enterprise linux.' I've been kicking myself for not buying Redhat shares the last 3 years. Now I'm glad I didn't.
Free Redhat == Mandrake or Caldera or a hundred other variations, but they're not selling enterprise systems the way redhat is. Oh yeah, and they're not compatible anymore.
Bicycles take 20 times as long to get somewhere as a car does, so you have not gained any space.
I'm running Mozilla 1.5 on NT4. There is no way short of recompiling (maybe) to make applets work.
Just when I thought the slashdot kook posting from yesterday was the most idiotically paranoid person on earth. Thanks for the link in your sig.
Competition is the only way Linux distributions will ever be able to stand up to Microsoft.
necessary to dig deeper to find coal? You've got to be kidding! There is so much coal, lying on the surface, just waiting to be gouged out of the landscape that it would keep us in fossil fuels at current consumption for millenia. Coal is more polluting and less efficient than oil, that's the only reason we don't use it as much any more.
A is unachievable B may be possible People drive around big SUVs that get 15-20 miles to the gallon, even though I'm sure they feel alot less powerful than they would if they were getting the kind of gas mileage a 1970s era station wagon got (say 6-8 mpg.) The geek solution is to solve the problem, not avoid it.
So finally you get to your real concerns, which I share with you: 1. The companies that are contracted to maintain/build roads and paid with tax dollars are being paid too much due to graft, corruption, and government cronyism 2. The insurance companies and/or government health care programs have skewed the true cost of mdeical treatment so that people cannot afford it, and it is not feasible to provide proper health care to most people. Where we seem to still disagree is whether: 3. A per-unit tax is a fair way to distribute the cost of road usage on vehicles, thereby encouraging fuel efficiency and reducing pollution.
So you know how to use the bold tag in HTML. Do you know anything else, or are you as ignorant of all other topics as your post would lead one to believe?
They do.
Only they give a tax credit for more efficient vehicles. Almost all the money spent on roads comes directly from gasoline tax. The less gas you use, the less tax you pay. And vice versa.
Actually, thanks to the miracle of gasoline (and diesel) it didn't cost more to ship the apples. It is cheaper to make cookies in Jamaica and ship the to Singapore and then to the USA, and then to Canada, than to make them in Canada. And not just because of Canadian labor and tax costs, but because dead dinosaurs are so plentiful and gas guzzling SUVs are so efficient, that it costs only a tiny fraction of that 87 cents Canadian (about 4 bits real money), to ship it practically all the way around the world. PS. You're probably wrong about where they were made and where they were shipped to.
Kerosene cometh from ...?
Advocating more deep fried foods is a humorous contrast to the parent post regarding obesity.
Once upon a time we were taught that our petrolium was the excrement of dead dinosaurs, apparently in an attempt to evoke sympathy for such cuddly man-eating creatures and provoke guilt when driving pre-SUV gas guzzling Ford Explorer II and Cadillacs. But after the debut of the movie Jurassic Park, when little children learned that dinosaurs are NOT YOUR FRIEND, and over-playing of Barney convinced adults of the same, textbooks were re-written to claim massive hemp-like lod growth ferns were the originators of our gasoline, all the while, geologists, archaeologist and evil oil men alike shook their heads in disgust at the deliberately false and naive claims of the self-righteous, ignorant cultists because THE OIL THAT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND DOES NOT COME FROM PLANTS OR ANIMALS!!! It never did.
The funny thing is, that the government does not fully support the current president. The US government, although the UK is getting almost as bad, is not a dictatorship on policy or opinion, and in fact, is representative of the variety of opinions of the people. Most of the American government apparatus in particular is highly critical, and even hostile to the elected president at this time, and most of them will still be in place long after he is gone. A large majority of the media is serving their interests.
Peace cannot be attained without victory. Understanding cannot be achieved without peace. The ball has to start somewhere.
So? PC parts are a commodity. You're still able to use that POS PC with 2 hardware faults, and it can have 3 more and still have a lower TCO.
That's terrible. I'm a developer and frequent visitor to Mozilla.org, and I can't tell anything about that page in 30 seconds except that they don't want me to download, they want to sell something, I'm not sure what. Since I've got 2 minutes, I realized that there is a download link, but it's hidden at the bottom of a product endorsement box
Thunderbird does do a good job of improving the menu , but it's lack of integration with the browser is a pain, especially since you can't even view emails as email instead html pages in Thunderbird either. Next to that, open link in new tab is the most important feature.
Nike has kept a fairly consistent logo, but MicroSoft, Coco-Cola and Pepsi change there's every few years. Coke brings back a slight variation on their old cursive logo from time to time, though.
That's the wrong way to do it. Mozilla does it right. What needs to be done is replace the functionality in all the (different) Win32 edit controls.