http://www.nuclearspace.com/a_liberty_ship.htm
It is simple, no nuclear materials comes out of the exausts. All you do is super heat some material to rediculous levels and your done. Any activity has a negative impact, but then the biggest human contibutor to radioactivity in the atmosphear is burning coal.
As for accidents, you need about 1000 accidents to release as much nuclear materails as those above ground attomic tests.
Oh, and make them BIG...
This is not about "phishing" other than the button.
Press the button and you verify it is your bank.
The questions are to verify users, because users seem to use the same password for hotmail and blogg sites as with banks.
I would suspect soon we will all cary a USB key coupled with a password to identify us.
As for the button, all they should have is a picture of our selfs when we log in. If it is not there... hey !!! Bingo, I am in Crusty Bank of Nigeria.
Giorgis
This is a new move for the US goverment.
I think it is a plus that they say that they don't run in Linux. Normaly they don't know anything about it. Given enough complaints they will make it work with Linux.
Amm... 1cc of water depends on temperature The the weight depends on atmospheric pressure given water can evaporate. Not a very accurate base. In fact you are saying nothing diferent to x number of water molecules. Water waould be a bad choice
Now that I think about it, the first three letters of the Greek alphabet:
Alpha = First stage, not all features impleneted
Beta = Second stage, all features implemented, now we test
Gamma = Final stage of software. The Greek verb Gamma also means f**k, maybe an M$ stage?
(Ask any Greek)
G
Much like using multiple antibiotics, you can use multiple methods to kill of spam.
You can have white lists and black lists. So that Yahoo shop can send you, your receipt, or the red cross can remind you of you donation.
But even they should want to pay. Imagine the Red cross cannot get through legitimately because it is drowned under a mass of Spam.
These pleople in the past were prepared to pay to solicit your attention. The internet gave them a free lunch. It is no longer a free lunch, so much so that legitimate businesses cannot take advantage.
I don't mind reading a target catalogue, or a hardware store one that makes it in my physical mailbox. But on principal I read no Spam.
But hang on... "(x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected"
The most I have emailed in bulk is say 5o people. If my computer requires 15 minutes of computation to post to 15 people so what !!! My computer is multitasking, and if I were to send postcards it would cost me much more time and money
"(x) It is defenseless against brute force attacks"
Ammm we are talking Spam, but brute force would require that they do a computation for every post they send. (They not me)
"(x) Users of email will not put up with it"
Well, I can't see why, if it a solution to a problem, why not. It's no skin of the users back.
"(x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email"
True, but tell that to Linux development. This would only work if It is viral.
"(x) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money"
I doubt this point is relevant. In any event, you will use it if that hot chick gave you her email address.
Killer app is all it's about on the internet.
"(x) Huge existing software investment in SMTP" Very true, but how much is spam costing ?
"(x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers"
So what, "I" don't want spam and if I and enough like me implement this method of sending mail then It wil be part of the next outlook. The Extreem stupidity" market will upgrade without knowing.
"(x) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes"
Not relevant, we are talking Spam that keeps showing up in my box. It is relevant if you mean that they will distribute the computation that way. Well, so be it, only a small persentage of the spam should be coming from those boxes. And even they will be bogged down. Currently it has becoe a huge computational task to send simple email. If you increase the computation 100 fold (that is too small still) Considering the drop in hit rate, it will just make it unprofitable.
"(x) Sending email should be free" But it is, you see, all you will use is waste. 99%+ of most computer time is idle time. It will only cost spammers that send 100 million posts.
"(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical"
This is a discussion on what a future solution may be...
But the Solution to Spyware is fairly simple. Make the sender pay, like normail post. That is why I don't get hundreds of posts in my physical mailbox. (and the fact I don't participate in competitions every chance I get)
Simply put, for somebody to send me email they have to perform a task. Say calculate the first five primes that end in five.
For one persons computer this will be trivial. But for somebody mailing out millions of posts it becomes impossible.
In fact I can increase the computation difficulty depending on what I want to filter out. I might not mind some major retailers who are happy to spend money sending out mailouts, so they have to do their home work, and target me from my opt in options and stuff. They end up with a computation that will cost the 50c per posts.
I guess the algorythim for the computation should have some method showing how much it will cost the mailer to be fair.
All is fair, and the fat lady can start her song
Giorgis
PS: Hmm, I think there is only one prime tha ends in 5
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http://www.nuclearspace.com/a_liberty_ship.htm It is simple, no nuclear materials comes out of the exausts. All you do is super heat some material to rediculous levels and your done. Any activity has a negative impact, but then the biggest human contibutor to radioactivity in the atmosphear is burning coal. As for accidents, you need about 1000 accidents to release as much nuclear materails as those above ground attomic tests. Oh, and make them BIG ...
This is not about "phishing" other than the button. Press the button and you verify it is your bank. The questions are to verify users, because users seem to use the same password for hotmail and blogg sites as with banks. I would suspect soon we will all cary a USB key coupled with a password to identify us. As for the button, all they should have is a picture of our selfs when we log in. If it is not there ... hey !!! Bingo, I am in Crusty Bank of Nigeria.
Giorgis
This is a new move for the US goverment. I think it is a plus that they say that they don't run in Linux. Normaly they don't know anything about it. Given enough complaints they will make it work with Linux.
See subject line
Why do we need hardening wizzards, tools software and so on. Why can't distributions be secure out of the box ?
Amm ... 1cc of water depends on temperature
The the weight depends on atmospheric pressure
given water can evaporate. Not a very accurate base.
In fact you are saying nothing diferent to x number of water molecules. Water waould be a bad choice
Now that I think about it, the first three letters of the Greek alphabet: Alpha = First stage, not all features impleneted Beta = Second stage, all features implemented, now we test Gamma = Final stage of software. The Greek verb Gamma also means f**k, maybe an M$ stage? (Ask any Greek) G
BUT LKML will have no problem, it will get through due to the fact it is white listed. The computation will only be required for unsolicited emails.
Even if 20000 are on the LKML that have not put LKML on the white list, I am sure there is an acceptable computational load.
Spamers send millions of emails. Their hit rate is in the 0.00X % They will still be hurt
G
Oh and to add to my replies ...
Much like using multiple antibiotics, you can use multiple methods to kill of spam.
You can have white lists and black lists. So that Yahoo shop can send you, your receipt, or the red cross can remind you of you donation.
But even they should want to pay. Imagine the Red cross cannot get through legitimately because it is drowned under a mass of Spam.
These pleople in the past were prepared to pay to solicit your attention. The internet gave them a free lunch. It is no longer a free lunch, so much so that legitimate businesses cannot take advantage.
I don't mind reading a target catalogue, or a hardware store one that makes it in my physical mailbox. But on principal I read no Spam.
Giorgis
But hang on ...
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/. is a wonderful and colourful place
"(x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected"
The most I have emailed in bulk is say 5o people. If my computer requires 15 minutes of computation to post to 15 people so what !!! My computer is multitasking, and if I were to send postcards it would cost me much more time and money
"(x) It is defenseless against brute force attacks"
Ammm we are talking Spam, but brute force would require that they do a computation for every post they send. (They not me)
"(x) Users of email will not put up with it"
Well, I can't see why, if it a solution to a problem, why not. It's no skin of the users back.
"(x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email"
True, but tell that to Linux development. This would only work if It is viral.
"(x) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money"
I doubt this point is relevant. In any event, you will use it if that hot chick gave you her email address.
Killer app is all it's about on the internet.
"(x) Huge existing software investment in SMTP"
Very true, but how much is spam costing ?
"(x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers"
So what, "I" don't want spam and if I and enough like me implement this method of sending mail then It wil be part of the next outlook. The Extreem stupidity" market will upgrade without knowing.
"(x) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes"
Not relevant, we are talking Spam that keeps showing up in my box. It is relevant if you mean that they will distribute the computation that way. Well, so be it, only a small persentage of the spam should be coming from those boxes. And even they will be bogged down. Currently it has becoe a huge computational task to send simple email. If you increase the computation 100 fold (that is too small still) Considering the drop in hit rate, it will just make it unprofitable.
"(x) Sending email should be free"
But it is, you see, all you will use is waste. 99%+ of most computer time is idle time. It will only cost spammers that send 100 million posts.
"(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical"
This is a discussion on what a future solution may be
"Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work."
?!?!?
Giorgis
But the Solution to Spyware is fairly simple. Make the sender pay, like normail post. That is why I don't get hundreds of posts in my physical mailbox. (and the fact I don't participate in competitions every chance I get) Simply put, for somebody to send me email they have to perform a task. Say calculate the first five primes that end in five. For one persons computer this will be trivial. But for somebody mailing out millions of posts it becomes impossible. In fact I can increase the computation difficulty depending on what I want to filter out. I might not mind some major retailers who are happy to spend money sending out mailouts, so they have to do their home work, and target me from my opt in options and stuff. They end up with a computation that will cost the 50c per posts. I guess the algorythim for the computation should have some method showing how much it will cost the mailer to be fair. All is fair, and the fat lady can start her song Giorgis PS: Hmm, I think there is only one prime tha ends in 5