Sun wants to control the development of the language. They don't want other companies like HP and Microsoft polluting it for their personal gain. I'm in no way saying Sun is a saint and they couldn't do things better..
I become very cynical toward those who think open source is the answer to every issue and because someone has control of code they are unenlighten individuals that are beneath them. Companies make money.. that's the point.. I'm still amazed there isn't so much backlash against RedHat because they sell open source software. They make money off your work.. But it's not ok for Sun to control and make money off their own work.
Java was created for 1 reason. To sell Sun servers. The more programs in Java, the more portable and the less control Microsoft has over Sun. If in anyway Sun can lose control over the direction Java goes, then HP, IBM, Microsoft, or someone else can add extentions that cause it not to be platform independent and that will spell the end of Java's purpose, to sell servers.
I personally would love a open source standard, but not at the expense of portability. Sun offers me a free JDK that I can code whatever I want and do what I please. If I remember correctly you can still get the JDK source code and can still fix bugs, but you can't go and sell it.. Gee.. There's a big loss.. not!
It's the price you pay.. You want portability or fragmentation.
I did enjoy running jessie to get script errors because the person who wrote the shell script doesn't know their scripting languages very well. They put...
#!/bin/sh
at the top and then to used
export PATH=$PATH:...
which is a error in "sh" because it's "bash". It's sad when you can't even get past the first 15 lines of code.
When Java was released, it was v1.0 from SunLabs and was given far too much hype for a programming language just born. How many programming languages out there captured huge market share with v1.0? How many were all together stable in v1.0? I would doubt any were. Everyone, including Sun, thought Java was going to cure cancer. It was way way to early in Java's life to judge it.
Now with Linux, it's been around for over 8 years and has been in constant development. Only recently has the media picked up on Linux and it has had much time to mature, v2.2.12.
Whether it was Open Source or closed has very little to do with it. It's all development and maturing time.
Before SGI was known as a high-end graphics unix workstation. They made their own processor, own OS, own video cards, own software.
Now what do they do? They dumped their processor and now buy Intel. They dumped their OS to Linux (their best move). They dumped their graphics to Nvidia, and I guess they still have their software for an OS & processor that is gone.
So who are they now??? I see a company who assembles a computer from purchased parts and sticks a SGI logo on it. What will set them appart? They want to compete with Dell or IBM with Linux installed? Is the vision to get a NVidia board and write graphics software? That doesn't sound like any better situation then they were before. Their overhead would be lower, but the PC competition would kill them.
Actually Sun was discussing open sourcing or community licenseing Solaris, but the problem is there is too much OEMed code that makes it nearly impossible. I suspect that is why IRIX and others drop their Unixes instead of openning them up.
Who do they plan to sell to? How many corporate types are going to trust their e-commerces to RedHat. They are strictly in the low end market maybe this is good for mom & pop e-commerces sites, but it seems like a bit waste of time and money.
Course I read this article after say that Linux is not a e-commerces solution:)
As the article stated and many have said it's $35K per CPU. How many companies are going to buy NAS and go get there Debian or Redhat distributions that they downloaded for free? Probably none.
They are targetting the E-commerce companies.. etrade, first union, C. Schwab, and the likes. They are in business and their primary target is to beat Microsoft and IBM. They don't want to throw money down the toliet on something noone is going to buy. I know everyone here is dying to throw $35K for an App server:)
Linux is not an E-Commerce solution for companies. There is nothing wrong with that. Customers like to know they will have support enginners a phone call away.. I'm sure Redhat support and Debian developers would like 24x7 phone duty:)
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Sun wants to control the development of the language. They don't want other companies like HP and Microsoft polluting it for their personal gain. I'm in no way saying Sun is a saint and they couldn't do things better..
I become very cynical toward those who think open source is the answer to every issue and because someone has control of code they are unenlighten individuals that are beneath them. Companies make money.. that's the point.. I'm still amazed there isn't so much backlash against RedHat because they sell open source software. They make money off your work.. But it's not ok for Sun to control and make money off their own work.
Java was created for 1 reason. To sell Sun servers. The more programs in Java, the more portable and the less control Microsoft has over Sun. If in anyway Sun can lose control over the direction Java goes, then HP, IBM, Microsoft, or someone else can add extentions that cause it not to be platform independent and that will spell the end of Java's purpose, to sell servers.
I personally would love a open source standard, but not at the expense of portability. Sun offers me a free JDK that I can code whatever I want and do what I please. If I remember correctly you can still get the JDK source code and can still fix bugs, but you can't go and sell it.. Gee.. There's a big loss.. not!
It's the price you pay.. You want portability or fragmentation.
#!/bin/sh
at the top and then to used
export PATH=$PATH:...
which is a error in "sh" because it's "bash". It's sad when you can't even get past the first 15 lines of code.
When Java was released, it was v1.0 from SunLabs and was given far too much hype for a programming language just born. How many programming languages out there captured huge market share with v1.0? How many were all together stable in v1.0? I would doubt any were. Everyone, including Sun, thought Java was going to cure cancer. It was way way to early in Java's life
to judge it.
Now with Linux, it's been around for over 8 years and has been in constant development. Only recently has the media picked up on Linux and it has had much time to mature, v2.2.12.
Whether it was Open Source or closed has very little to do with it. It's all development and maturing time.
Now what do they do? They dumped their processor and now buy Intel. They dumped their OS to Linux (their best move). They dumped their graphics to Nvidia, and I guess they still have their software for an OS & processor that is gone.
So who are they now??? I see a company who assembles a computer from purchased parts and sticks a SGI logo on it. What will set them appart? They want to compete with Dell or IBM with Linux installed? Is the vision to get a NVidia board and write graphics software? That doesn't sound like any better situation then they were before. Their overhead would be lower, but the PC competition would kill them.
Actually Sun was discussing open sourcing or community licenseing Solaris, but the problem is there is too much OEMed code that makes it nearly impossible. I suspect that is why IRIX and others drop their Unixes instead of openning them up.
Who do they plan to sell to? How many corporate
:)
types are going to trust their e-commerces to RedHat. They are strictly in the low end market maybe this is good for mom & pop e-commerces sites, but it seems like a bit waste of time and money.
Course I read this article after say that Linux is not a e-commerces solution
As the article stated and many have said it's $35K per CPU. How many companies are going to buy NAS
:)
:)
and go get there Debian or Redhat distributions
that they downloaded for free? Probably none.
They are targetting the E-commerce companies.. etrade, first union, C. Schwab, and the likes. They are in business and their primary target is to beat Microsoft and IBM. They don't want to throw money down the toliet on something noone is going to buy. I know everyone here is dying to
throw $35K for an App server
Linux is not an E-Commerce solution for companies.
There is nothing wrong with that. Customers like to know they will have support enginners a phone call away.. I'm sure Redhat support and Debian developers would like 24x7 phone duty