Your declaring that you had or have evidence is, well, not convincing. Simply chanting this line is not science-it is, well, religion. Obviously you do not have any. "Lots of good evidence" that you have seems to be lacking in your response.
When one has actual evidence, they present it. You and I both know yours never passes the sniff test, and can't. So you do not present it.
Thus far in history, to date, there has never bee a scrap of unambiguous evidence discovered which can not be explained by a Creator.
NOTHING happens by accident. Simple as that. Called a LAW, not a theory.
I can defend my statement that evolutionism is useless, unproductive deadly, dangerous and purely religious. You cannot defend yours.
ALL evidence in science points to incredible, intelligent design, from the simplest cell to humans. I noticed that you did not answer which of the four scenarios best fits how you believe we got here. Non-committal?
Here's a new one. Start with a tadpole and explain metamorphism into a frog from purely evolutionary means. Or take flight in four groups and explain how it naturally happend.
Origins is not necessary to teach in school. Any scientific discipline (bar NONE) can be taught sans origins, K-College.
Origins is down the hall, under "philosophy". Origins is what we derive meaning to life from.
Science is dissecting frogs, studyng bird songs, studying flight, the mating of various animals, inventing new plastics. None of which has to do with origins. True science is what anyone can not worry about ageeeing on, since it is not based upon theory.
Studying the makeup of an amoeba is far different from telling kids, blindly, "this PRIMITIVE(false), single-celled creature evolved from a primordial soup some 3 billion years ago"...which is a religious statement and belongs down the hall in philosophy class.
With Darwinism, the kids are cheated out of science and meaning.
Then we simply need to stop telling the kids that we DO know. The kids do not hear that it is impossible, they do not hear it is religion, belief, or anything other than fact.
I know how we got here, which has nothing to do with science-but that does not make it fals, either. Because I know the only ONE who did it and was there.
Intelligence is all around us and has no natural origin. Design is all around us and has no natural origin. Nothing comes from nothing. Can I prove this to anyone? Not one soul unless they want to be "proven to". But it is a fact.
When evolutionist claim they KNOW anything at all from the distant, pre-recorded past, they lie when they call it science. It is dogma and religion, since they were not there. They can not know, do not know and need to tell the children that "340,000,00 years ago during the age of fishes" is their religious viewpoint, which thing I would have no problem telling them, as long as it is not in a science class, because it is a religious statement.
But dogma? Insisting evolutionism is a fact because "most true scientists believe in it"? It is hypocrisy, like calling James Baker or Jimmy Swaggart a thieves (which they are) and then opening your own church (Church of Darwin) and collecting millions to spouse your religion (public schools, universities, PBS)
Darwinism requires so much more blind faith and evolutionists are simply afraid of being mocked for rejecting the religon. So they redefine science as "naturalism" (a religion)
You look at design and call it "by chance" and then call it science? Then you are a liar. Call it religion, for what it is.
Of course it is imposssible to know what happened in the past unless you were there. Written records stop at what? 6000 years ago? No way to know before that, which is why evolutionists are dishonest. They say (yea, insist) they can-which they can not. Period. So anything said to be "science" applied to that time is religious, speculative at best, dishonest at worse.
To be dogmatic about it? ("things evolved because we insist they did") is dishonest. Uncertainty increases as time passes. But evolutionists INSIST they know that things evolved (which they can not and did not) way before written records, which is impossible.
That is religious, not scientific. Science knows nothing of evolutionism and can be researched, practiced and taught just fine without it. Evolutionism is a useless, dangerous and deadly religion. No matter who or how many declare it "science" or "scientific"
If you are referring to actual science books, that is Biblical (Daniel 1:4). If you are referring to books which contain Darwinism, then that is not. Darwinism is religion and not science. Naturalism is religion and not science. "Most scien tist believe in it" does not make it science, as most people in India are Hindus. Majority arguments are al you guys have. Redifining science as "naturalism" is
Common Design is THE rule, common descent is fables, myths like a flat earth, or an earth on the backs of elephants.
No unambiguous evidence from fossils (just claims, later quietly rejected)
No natural mechanism to make fossils as found in large beds with prey/predator together, etc.
No evidence from biological systems
No evidence from embryology
No biogenesis
No possibility from chemistry or physics
No mechanisms(including mutations and natural selection)
No unambiguous evidence from homology
Filled with lies, deceipt, religion
No evidence from dating methods
PURE RELIGION, WITH billions who want to hear what their itching ears want to hear, believing it, because that is all they ever hear.
Here ya go:
1. The Universe came into existence completely from nothing, by itself. There was nothing, then everything over time. Start with nothing & work forward.
2. The Universe always existed
3. The Universe is an illusion
4. The Universe was created.
Pick just one. Oughtta be easy for any "scientifically-minded person". Impossible for any thinking "higher mammmal".
Pretty much a pagan religion masquerading as science. Evolutionists HATE actual science because it negates their religion completely at every turn; but they love evolutionism.
Your emperor has no clothes. Darwinism is dead. Bury it already. My ancestors...I'm verry sorry about yours.
Zukester
Former Evolutionist/Atheist, because I love science and hate religion.
>>That would be a reasonable analogy, if it weren't for
1. the fact that you were the aggressor in this conflict, <<
Wrong on number one. Aggressors NEVER give back land taken, as Israel does-until more innocent bodies are ripped apart by bombs looaded with nails, like the Sinai they took from Egypt and gave back. Such things never happen with aggressors..........on to number two.
>>2. continually stealing their land, <<
Yep, as expected, wrong on number two also. Historically speaking, it is Israel's land and there is no such thing as a Palistinian. there is also, BTW no such thing as a Jordanian either, according to your line of reasoning. Jordan was made by the U.N. "Palestinians" are Jordanians,,and Jordan hated them and still does. Even tried to kill them. Of course, you knew that. "Palestinians" are also murdering liars who cheered 9/11 and cheered todasy when three American were slaughtered by a homicide bomb.
>>3. destroying their homes, <<
Three strikes........glad this is not baseball.
They are merciful enough to only destroy the homes of terrorists and their activities. Of course, the Israeli-hating-terrorist murtderous liars also destroy Jewish restaurants, hotels, cars, public places........ad nauseum. You forgot to mention that, and who has to rebuild them.
You also neglected to mention how Israel pumps more money into "Palestine" than all of her Muslim neighbors do.
>> 4. killing their people. <<
No ya went and done it. Four strikes. Whoa.
Israelis attack military targets and go out of the way (which they should not) to avoid civilian targets. Your friends the lying murderers nearly always target the innocents.
That is why they are called "terrorists".
Yasser Arafat invented the hijacking of planes, remember?
Ignorance is bliss..........you are having a bliss-ard.
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When one has actual evidence, they present it. You and I both know yours never passes the sniff test, and can't. So you do not present it.
Thus far in history, to date, there has never bee a scrap of unambiguous evidence discovered which can not be explained by a Creator.
NOTHING happens by accident. Simple as that. Called a LAW, not a theory.
I can defend my statement that evolutionism is useless, unproductive deadly, dangerous and purely religious. You cannot defend yours.
ALL evidence in science points to incredible, intelligent design, from the simplest cell to humans. I noticed that you did not answer which of the four scenarios best fits how you believe we got here. Non-committal?
Here's a new one. Start with a tadpole and explain metamorphism into a frog from purely evolutionary means. Or take flight in four groups and explain how it naturally happend.
"Abandon religion. Abandon Evil-utionism."
Regards,
Zukester
Origins is down the hall, under "philosophy". Origins is what we derive meaning to life from.
Science is dissecting frogs, studyng bird songs, studying flight, the mating of various animals, inventing new plastics. None of which has to do with origins. True science is what anyone can not worry about ageeeing on, since it is not based upon theory.
Studying the makeup of an amoeba is far different from telling kids, blindly, "this PRIMITIVE(false), single-celled creature evolved from a primordial soup some 3 billion years ago"...which is a religious statement and belongs down the hall in philosophy class.
With Darwinism, the kids are cheated out of science and meaning.
Zukester
I know how we got here, which has nothing to do with science-but that does not make it fals, either. Because I know the only ONE who did it and was there.
Intelligence is all around us and has no natural origin. Design is all around us and has no natural origin. Nothing comes from nothing. Can I prove this to anyone? Not one soul unless they want to be "proven to". But it is a fact.
When evolutionist claim they KNOW anything at all from the distant, pre-recorded past, they lie when they call it science. It is dogma and religion, since they were not there. They can not know, do not know and need to tell the children that "340,000,00 years ago during the age of fishes" is their religious viewpoint, which thing I would have no problem telling them, as long as it is not in a science class, because it is a religious statement.
But dogma? Insisting evolutionism is a fact because "most true scientists believe in it"? It is hypocrisy, like calling James Baker or Jimmy Swaggart a thieves (which they are) and then opening your own church (Church of Darwin) and collecting millions to spouse your religion (public schools, universities, PBS)
Darwinism requires so much more blind faith and evolutionists are simply afraid of being mocked for rejecting the religon. So they redefine science as "naturalism" (a religion)
You look at design and call it "by chance" and then call it science? Then you are a liar. Call it religion, for what it is.
Regards, Over and out.
Zukester
Of course it is imposssible to know what happened in the past unless you were there. Written records stop at what? 6000 years ago? No way to know before that, which is why evolutionists are dishonest. They say (yea, insist) they can-which they can not. Period. So anything said to be "science" applied to that time is religious, speculative at best, dishonest at worse.
To be dogmatic about it? ("things evolved because we insist they did") is dishonest. Uncertainty increases as time passes. But evolutionists INSIST they know that things evolved (which they can not and did not) way before written records, which is impossible.
That is religious, not scientific. Science knows nothing of evolutionism and can be researched, practiced and taught just fine without it. Evolutionism is a useless, dangerous and deadly religion. No matter who or how many declare it "science" or "scientific"
Zukester
Common Design is THE rule, common descent is fables, myths like a flat earth, or an earth on the backs of elephants.
- No unambiguous evidence from fossils (just claims, later quietly rejected)
- No natural mechanism to make fossils as found in large beds with prey/predator together, etc.
- No evidence from biological systems
- No evidence from embryology
- No biogenesis
- No possibility from chemistry or physics
- No mechanisms(including mutations and natural selection)
- No unambiguous evidence from homology
- Filled with lies, deceipt, religion
- No evidence from dating methods
PURE RELIGION, WITH billions who want to hear what their itching ears want to hear, believing it, because that is all they ever hear.Here ya go:
1. The Universe came into existence completely from nothing, by itself. There was nothing, then everything over time. Start with nothing & work forward.
2. The Universe always existed
3. The Universe is an illusion
4. The Universe was created.
Pick just one. Oughtta be easy for any "scientifically-minded person". Impossible for any thinking "higher mammmal".
Pretty much a pagan religion masquerading as science. Evolutionists HATE actual science because it negates their religion completely at every turn; but they love evolutionism.
Your emperor has no clothes. Darwinism is dead. Bury it already. My ancestors...I'm verry sorry about yours.
Zukester
Former Evolutionist/Atheist, because I love science and hate religion.
>>That would be a reasonable analogy, if it weren't for
,and Jordan hated them and still does. Even tried to kill them. Of course, you knew that. "Palestinians" are also murdering liars who cheered 9/11 and cheered todasy when three American were slaughtered by a homicide bomb.
1. the fact that you were the aggressor in this conflict, <<
Wrong on number one. Aggressors NEVER give back land taken, as Israel does-until more innocent bodies are ripped apart by bombs looaded with nails, like the Sinai they took from Egypt and gave back. Such things never happen with aggressors..........on to number two.
>>2. continually stealing their land, <<
Yep, as expected, wrong on number two also. Historically speaking, it is Israel's land and there is no such thing as a Palistinian. there is also, BTW no such thing as a Jordanian either, according to your line of reasoning. Jordan was made by the U.N. "Palestinians" are Jordanians,
>>3. destroying their homes, <<
Three strikes........glad this is not baseball.
They are merciful enough to only destroy the homes of terrorists and their activities. Of course, the Israeli-hating-terrorist murtderous liars also destroy Jewish restaurants, hotels, cars, public places........ad nauseum. You forgot to mention that, and who has to rebuild them.
You also neglected to mention how Israel pumps more money into "Palestine" than all of her Muslim neighbors do.
>> 4. killing their people. <<
No ya went and done it. Four strikes. Whoa.
Israelis attack military targets and go out of the way (which they should not) to avoid civilian targets. Your friends the lying murderers nearly always target the innocents.
That is why they are called "terrorists".
Yasser Arafat invented the hijacking of planes, remember?
Ignorance is bliss..........you are having a bliss-ard.
Why does Israel even put up with these animals?
Regards,
Bob Zuvich