In all honesty. If you're too stupid to live, die. If you're too stupid to keep your money, lose it.
And if you are too weak to defend your property by yourself, be expelled from it by the first gang who walks in. Social Darwinism is wonderful as long as you're the strongest guy around; the problem is that you aren't, most of the time.
Now, I can somewhat understand the need for scam protection laws in real life (because I'd probably have to pay for the suckers' wellfare), I don't see any reason to "protect" them in a game. You get scammed out of your virtual money? Sucks to be you. Toss your account, start over if you please, what do I care?
Scam protection laws exist in real life because without them investing is a lot riskier than with them, so they encourage people to invest their money which in turn helps economy. And it's not like Linder Dollars are any more virtual than the contents of your bank account: they're both numbers in a computer's memory.
Anyway, the solution is to treat Linder Labs as a bank, since they act as one to the point of printing their own money which is officially exchangable for US dollars at a fixed rate, and responsible for dealing with this kind of things. Alternatively, treat their virtual economy as any other foreign one.
Compared to the endless grind of City of Heroes or World of Warcraft... well, finding a way to deal with scammers in Eve is what makes it the only MMO worth playing.
One would imagine it not taking much searching to find the "fire" button;).
I am sure in almost any other First/Second World country things are in fact much worse, and your govt also subsidizes your healthcare, your high school and college education, your low-tech and unskilled workers, your welfare bums, your media and TV companies, and so on.
Yes. This tactic transformed Finland from a preindustrial agricultural ex-colony ravaged by civil war and later invaded by Soviet Russia into one of the richest nations on the planet with high standard of living and rock-stable democracy in less than a century. Sadly, our society has slowly deteriorated the past few years, mainly because our current crop of leaders cares more about making themselves feel important by embracing global capitalism than advancing the welfare of their citizens; but as long as we stick to the tenets of free public education up to and including university level, we'll survive and prosper.
See, there's a reason US of A is still number one.
When you fall from the shoulders of giants, it takes a while to hit the ground. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be a really good idea to try to grap onto something before you do, thought.
Unfortuneatly none of them come in strong enough to provide a good watchable picture. It'll be fine for 10 seconds or so and then the image will corrupt for 2-3 seconds. Rinse, repeat. Enough to say "Hey, this picture looks good when it works, and having all the program scheduling and info is nice too, but I can't really watch this as is." I don't think I'm going to get much better without going to something big mounted on the roof (which I'd strongly prefer to avoid).
I have something big mounted on the roof, on top of a 5-story house (the biggest in the neighbourhood), live a few dozen kilometers from the nearest antenna, and I still get random corruptions. It's just a nasty side effect of compression: since extra information is removed by compression, and each bit is responsible for far larger area of the screen than the equivalent analog part of the signal, a disturbance which would cause a barely noticeable speck of "snow" in analog signal causes a huge disturbance in digital, usually manifesting itself as a colored box over some are of the picture.
Digital signal over the air sounds nice on paper, but it only works reliably in ideal conditions, which don't exist anywhere on Earth outside of labs. Add the fact that the decoders have a tendency to crash or hang when they encounter corrupted data, and the whole digi-tv becomes a farce.
Of course the real source of my bitterness is that I spent 80 euros for a digi-tv tuner card for my computer, and it produces these artifacts constantly. Oh well, Yle of Finland just lost another customer for good.
You said that you wouldn't do it -- forget for now what "it" is -- for any price, but that I could call and maybe ask. Well, if you separate things so completely that I don't have your personal telephone number, then no I can't ask. I guess it's that level of things.
Of course I will give my employer my phone number. To not do so would be just stupid. What I won't do, for any price, is guarantee that I'm sitting around that phone number ready to go. That's all. My employer, or anyone else for that matter, can always call and ask: "Would you do me a favor for money ?" I simply won't guarantee that the call reaches me, or that the answer is "yes".
Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any reason to continue this thread beyond this, since we seem to be doing nothing but reiterating our positions with new wordings.
Heh, funny story. I once got hired because I was willing to take on twice as many on-call shifts as the job required.
Good for you, then. I hope you got paid for them appropriately.
It will be an Open Source game. Didn't you read the title ?-)
Seriously, thought, I'm getting a bad feeling about this. There is a considerable risk that the game will simply be a glorified tech demo, like Elephant's Dream was. This didn't really matter for the film, since you can just switch back and admire the surreal world and effects; but it will matter for a game, where you'll have to interact and participate. A game must be more than just a bunch of random ideas thrown together.
Then that's exactly what I'm talking about. If ordinary employees don't have enough appreciation for their own job that they'd attempt to save it when it's about to die, then they don't deserve any credit for when it lives.
Employees deserve their paycheck for their job, no less, no more. I don't know why you keep talking about "credit"; I am perfectly happy with you employer crediting my bank account as per our contract of employment. And no one said that you can't call them and ask: "I have an emergency, can you come for two day's work, I'll pay 50,000 ?" No, the issue is your requirement that people not engage in any activities that would stop you from reaching them, or being unable to come.
You require more than you are willing to pay for. That is unreasonable. The employment relationship is essentially a trade, where the employee sells a give amount of labor to the employer. You wish to receive more than you paid for; do not expect many people to put up with that kind of behavior for long.
Altought, to be frank, I'm starting to think that you are a troll, for that exact reason: there is no way you could actually stay in business if you express your disregard for employment law - I'm referring to your statements about anti-discrimination laws, specifically - and go on about your employees deserving no credit while making unresonable requirements for them in real life too.
Just in case you really are a business owner in real life, I sincerely recommend you change your attitude before it destroys said business.
Incidentally, what is your rate for being this version of "on-call" where you don't receive a call for years at a time, and you get paid an exhorbitant amount of money if you do get called?
I wouldn't do it for any price. I want to separate my worktime and free time completely.
That isn't to say that if my boss called me and said: "I have an emergency, can you come and help, I'll pay you generously ?", I would turn him down. Oh no, that would be simply stupid of me. However, if my boss told me I must always be ready for such a call, I would politely decline and point out that I don't want to be on call, and that if he requires his employees to be on call we must part ways. If he calls me, he might be lucky and contact me when I have no obstacles for coming, or he might be unlucky and not manage to contact me, or I might have obstacles; I make no guarantees nor promises about that.
It's not a question of being unwilling to work beyond office hours - I've occasionally put in 12+ -hour days - but simply that if you must be contactable and able to come to work on demand this places serious restrictions on what you can do on your free time; as you yourself noted, you can't go camping or engage in other activities which require a commitment of your time. That, in turn, makes that time not so free after all, but some half-work time, even if you don't actually get the call more than once a decade.
That is why being on call requires extra pay: it makes your free time less free, even if the call never comes.
I know about the Ford Model-T, without ever having seen one in person, I know about the emergence of repeat-fire rifles in the 1860s, that the weapons commonly in use in the 1700s were not rifled.
But do you know about the alien invasion of 1901, repelled by President McKinley, who dueled and singlehandedly killed the Head Tentacle but was shot by a tentacle sympthasizer Leon Czolgoz ? I didn't think so.
Seriously, listing a few things you know about life and events a century past in no way proves or even suggests that there isn't something very important you don't know about them.
The parent didn't say the white "race" will go extinct, only that it will be mixed. So instead of France being populated by (made up numbers) 80% white people and 20% black people, it will over time converge to every person having 80% white ancestry and 20% black ancestry. Not through anyone being killed, just through friendly fraternization between the "races".
I've never been to France, but judging from Finland, I'd say that we're far more likely to merge with asians than africans. Makes sense, I suppose, with them being the most populous race on Earth.
That supercapacitor technology will also make it finally feasible for true electric cars that will have a range of around 400 km (248 miles), but with recharge times about the same as refilling a 20-gallon gas tank at a gas station!:-)
Of course, if you coat the car with solar panels, you don't neccessarily need to recharge it at all; just leave it outside for the weekend.
With electric cars, we can eliminate the space-wasting engine compartment, so the electric car of 2028 could seat 4-5 passengers comfortably but will be physically smaller than today's automobiles.
The engine compartment not only houses the engine, but it also acts as a shock absorber in the case of a head-on collision. Having it collapse in a controlled fashion means that the car comes to a stop in half a meter, rather than half a centimeter, making the G-forces significantly smaller than they would be without it. So no, I don't think that it can be eliminated safely.
That's not fair. It's not a job that requires them to be on-call. On-call presumes a certain frequency of that call. I'm not talking about an emergency response team dedicated to waiting for the next emergency, and I'm not talking about an on-call customer service agent to receive customer issues at weird times.
Yes, as a matter of fact you are talking about just that. You want people who can come help you within moment's notice, and are never unreachable. That is being on call by any reasonable standards.
I'm talking about a truck hitting a power line at the rackspace data centre in virginia and taking out the servers -- something that happens once every ten years.
You have lousy truck drivers there;). But seriously, either the chances of this happening are sufficient to warrant on call people to deal with it, or they aren't. You either take the risk, or pay money so you don't have to. You can't have it both ways.
I need to know that when my client calls and says that he understands the problem is not my fault, and it's worth fifty thousand dollars to him for me to get things back running by friday night, that my employee can be called upon to accept that $50'000.00 for the two-day task of getting things running again.
If you need people to be on call, then you pay them to be on call. The security of having people on call and ready to deal with whatever happens; or the higher profits and risks of not having to pay them for that. Choosing between these is just one of the decisions a businessman needs to make.
It's not about taking advantage of employees, nor is it about controlling their off-hours. It's simply about needing employees that have enough dedication to their jobs that they will take infinite sums of money in order to keep their jobs in an emergency situation.
No, it's about you wanting people to be on call 24/7 while only paying them 8-16 wages. You aren't going to get dedicated people with this kind of stuff; in fact you aren't going to get anyone who can get a job elsewhere.
Argue semantics all you like, but the GPL does prevent you from releasing something which incorporates someone else's code unless your code is also GPL.
GPL doesn't prevent this. The copyright law does; the bit about derivative works, to be specific. This isn't semantics, it's a fact.
Disregard for my business -- even during off-hours -- is completely unacceptable.
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You don't deserve squat -- that's why you get nothing but money for your time. You work is appreciated, but the intelectual property isn't yours, and the risk wasn't yours, and the value-rewards won't be yours. The clients aren't yours, the company isn't yours.
Either you are paid for your time/labor, in which case you owe your employee that time/labor and nothing more - specifically, you do not owe your employee any kind of "regard" for his business outside your worktime - or you are a co-enterpreneur, in which case the company is partly yours. You can't have it both ways; you can't have mere employees and require them to care about the company beyond the work they're paid for. Make up your mind.
They don't need to know your favourite brand of condoms (in most cases) but maybe they do need to know your religion and how much it impacts your life.
No they don't. They need to know if you can fullfill the requirements of the job, as stated in the interview and your work contract. There is absolutely no excuse to pry on this beyond "yes" or "no".
After all, business occurs after hours too, and there are professional emergencies.
Either hire people to act on call as 24/7 emergency response team (or night shift) and pay them accordingly, or accept that any such emergencies go unanswered. But you can't hire someone to a 8-16 job and except them to run to the site in the middle of the night, or on Sunday, or whenever. Not anymore, anyway, thanks to the unions; prior to them, in the dark days of Industrial Revolution, this kind of shit was commonplace.
Being entirely unreachable because you're stuck in a church, or in a brothel, or out-of-state, or on a camping trip is a perfectly good reason to give the job to someone who is always near-by, and can be called in when their presence is required after-hours.
If people are required after-hours, you either hire multiple shifts or pay people to be on call. What's so difficult to understand about this ?
Indeed.. I go by Michael Layth online, everywhere I sign up. Has nothing to do with my real name.
Unfortunately, this also means that if you make a blunder and reveal your real indentity anywhere, all your online activities are trivially searchable afterwards. It is much better to use different name and password everywhere, to limit the damage done by any such breaches.
So basically, you want the freedom to discriminate against people for things you happen to care for, and ban discrimination on any other basis.
And people wonder why voting percentages go down, when having a wrong political opinion risks getting punished by people like you; and of course "wrong" differs from case to case.
Two exceptions: 1) A person who has done drugs long enough could learn to "sober up" long enough to hide the fact their high.
They're going to overcome misfiring neurons with sheer force of will ? I have to admit I find that hard to believe. In any case, I'd imagine a long-time drug abuser unable to stay off them long enough to do their job to have some kind of outward signs of their addiction.
2) Some people have been sheltered long enough that they don't know what a high person looks like. (I've been the latter and seen the former).
We aren't talking about a courtroom here, where you need to prove something beyond resonable doubt; it is quite sufficient to notice that there's something weird about the person you're talking with.
Actually, it is the way the US stops people who are supposedly our friends from helping them get the tech. The main benefit is, it shows us who is really friendly and who isn't. So if war breaks out, we know who to protect and who to help.
I think that you're confusing friends and thralls. Thralls obey your every command. Friends don't, altought they might obey a request if they judge it reasonable.
The inability to understand this difference seems to be a recurring theme in US foreign policy, and is exemplified by things like Freedom Fries.
A license like apache, mozilla or the CDDL also prevent you from closing up *other people's* code. You still have to share.
They just allow you to link it to *your* code under whatever license you feel like releasing *your code* under
GPL doesn't stop you from releasing your code under whatever license you feel like. It simply stops you from releasing binaries which contain my GPL'd code in compiled form without releasing the code for the whole thing under GPL-compatible license.
No, that's not correct; GPL doesn't stop anyone from doing anything, the copyright law does. GPL graciously allows you to release products incorporating my code in them if you release the code for the whole thing under GPL-compatible license.
If if i receive a GPL licensed binary, i get the source, and I can give it to anyone i want, even someone who never paid the original developer. It makes for-pay software development next to impossible, hence the push to fund development with service contracts etc.
Actually, it makes for-pay software development extremely easy and feasible: anyone can hire anyone to add a feature or fix a bug in the open-sourced program.
But the only way to get that size a mass of volunteers is to work on a "sure thing" project with an established design that moves towards a goal everyone can already see -- to copy an established product.
What product, exactly speaking, does Nethack copy ?
Imagine you hired a babysitter to watch your kids and she's great with the kids and everything, but one day you find their myspace and there's blogs about doing drugs and all kinds of stuff you just wouldn't want your kids around, what would you do? Think you'd trust her anymore? Think you might keep an eye out for a new babysitter? Why should a company do something different?
Between trusting my own eyes or some webpage which may or may not be made by the person in question, and may or may not contain any grain of truth, I'll choose my own eyes, thank you very much. It's not like someone who's high on drugs can hide that fact, unless they're really wimpy drugs;).
Besides, alcohol is a drug; are you going to disqualify a babysitter because you've seen a picture of her drinking beer, despite her never being drunk while on the job ?
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And if you are too weak to defend your property by yourself, be expelled from it by the first gang who walks in. Social Darwinism is wonderful as long as you're the strongest guy around; the problem is that you aren't, most of the time.
Scam protection laws exist in real life because without them investing is a lot riskier than with them, so they encourage people to invest their money which in turn helps economy. And it's not like Linder Dollars are any more virtual than the contents of your bank account: they're both numbers in a computer's memory.
Anyway, the solution is to treat Linder Labs as a bank, since they act as one to the point of printing their own money which is officially exchangable for US dollars at a fixed rate, and responsible for dealing with this kind of things. Alternatively, treat their virtual economy as any other foreign one.
One would imagine it not taking much searching to find the "fire" button ;).
Yes. This tactic transformed Finland from a preindustrial agricultural ex-colony ravaged by civil war and later invaded by Soviet Russia into one of the richest nations on the planet with high standard of living and rock-stable democracy in less than a century. Sadly, our society has slowly deteriorated the past few years, mainly because our current crop of leaders cares more about making themselves feel important by embracing global capitalism than advancing the welfare of their citizens; but as long as we stick to the tenets of free public education up to and including university level, we'll survive and prosper.
When you fall from the shoulders of giants, it takes a while to hit the ground. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be a really good idea to try to grap onto something before you do, thought.
I have something big mounted on the roof, on top of a 5-story house (the biggest in the neighbourhood), live a few dozen kilometers from the nearest antenna, and I still get random corruptions. It's just a nasty side effect of compression: since extra information is removed by compression, and each bit is responsible for far larger area of the screen than the equivalent analog part of the signal, a disturbance which would cause a barely noticeable speck of "snow" in analog signal causes a huge disturbance in digital, usually manifesting itself as a colored box over some are of the picture.
Digital signal over the air sounds nice on paper, but it only works reliably in ideal conditions, which don't exist anywhere on Earth outside of labs. Add the fact that the decoders have a tendency to crash or hang when they encounter corrupted data, and the whole digi-tv becomes a farce.
Of course the real source of my bitterness is that I spent 80 euros for a digi-tv tuner card for my computer, and it produces these artifacts constantly. Oh well, Yle of Finland just lost another customer for good.
Of course I will give my employer my phone number. To not do so would be just stupid. What I won't do, for any price, is guarantee that I'm sitting around that phone number ready to go. That's all. My employer, or anyone else for that matter, can always call and ask: "Would you do me a favor for money ?" I simply won't guarantee that the call reaches me, or that the answer is "yes".
Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any reason to continue this thread beyond this, since we seem to be doing nothing but reiterating our positions with new wordings.
Good for you, then. I hope you got paid for them appropriately.
It will be an Open Source game. Didn't you read the title ?-)
Seriously, thought, I'm getting a bad feeling about this. There is a considerable risk that the game will simply be a glorified tech demo, like Elephant's Dream was. This didn't really matter for the film, since you can just switch back and admire the surreal world and effects; but it will matter for a game, where you'll have to interact and participate. A game must be more than just a bunch of random ideas thrown together.
True. They're Neutral Evil Greater Powers.
Employees deserve their paycheck for their job, no less, no more. I don't know why you keep talking about "credit"; I am perfectly happy with you employer crediting my bank account as per our contract of employment. And no one said that you can't call them and ask: "I have an emergency, can you come for two day's work, I'll pay 50,000 ?" No, the issue is your requirement that people not engage in any activities that would stop you from reaching them, or being unable to come.
You require more than you are willing to pay for. That is unreasonable. The employment relationship is essentially a trade, where the employee sells a give amount of labor to the employer. You wish to receive more than you paid for; do not expect many people to put up with that kind of behavior for long.
Altought, to be frank, I'm starting to think that you are a troll, for that exact reason: there is no way you could actually stay in business if you express your disregard for employment law - I'm referring to your statements about anti-discrimination laws, specifically - and go on about your employees deserving no credit while making unresonable requirements for them in real life too.
Just in case you really are a business owner in real life, I sincerely recommend you change your attitude before it destroys said business.
I wouldn't do it for any price. I want to separate my worktime and free time completely.
That isn't to say that if my boss called me and said: "I have an emergency, can you come and help, I'll pay you generously ?", I would turn him down. Oh no, that would be simply stupid of me. However, if my boss told me I must always be ready for such a call, I would politely decline and point out that I don't want to be on call, and that if he requires his employees to be on call we must part ways. If he calls me, he might be lucky and contact me when I have no obstacles for coming, or he might be unlucky and not manage to contact me, or I might have obstacles; I make no guarantees nor promises about that.
It's not a question of being unwilling to work beyond office hours - I've occasionally put in 12+ -hour days - but simply that if you must be contactable and able to come to work on demand this places serious restrictions on what you can do on your free time; as you yourself noted, you can't go camping or engage in other activities which require a commitment of your time. That, in turn, makes that time not so free after all, but some half-work time, even if you don't actually get the call more than once a decade.
That is why being on call requires extra pay: it makes your free time less free, even if the call never comes.
That would make it less than zero.
But do you know about the alien invasion of 1901, repelled by President McKinley, who dueled and singlehandedly killed the Head Tentacle but was shot by a tentacle sympthasizer Leon Czolgoz ? I didn't think so.
Seriously, listing a few things you know about life and events a century past in no way proves or even suggests that there isn't something very important you don't know about them.
I've never been to France, but judging from Finland, I'd say that we're far more likely to merge with asians than africans. Makes sense, I suppose, with them being the most populous race on Earth.
Of course, if you coat the car with solar panels, you don't neccessarily need to recharge it at all; just leave it outside for the weekend.
The engine compartment not only houses the engine, but it also acts as a shock absorber in the case of a head-on collision. Having it collapse in a controlled fashion means that the car comes to a stop in half a meter, rather than half a centimeter, making the G-forces significantly smaller than they would be without it. So no, I don't think that it can be eliminated safely.
Yes, as a matter of fact you are talking about just that. You want people who can come help you within moment's notice, and are never unreachable. That is being on call by any reasonable standards.
You have lousy truck drivers there ;). But seriously, either the chances of this happening are sufficient to warrant on call people to deal with it, or they aren't. You either take the risk, or pay money so you don't have to. You can't have it both ways.
If you need people to be on call, then you pay them to be on call. The security of having people on call and ready to deal with whatever happens; or the higher profits and risks of not having to pay them for that. Choosing between these is just one of the decisions a businessman needs to make.
No, it's about you wanting people to be on call 24/7 while only paying them 8-16 wages. You aren't going to get dedicated people with this kind of stuff; in fact you aren't going to get anyone who can get a job elsewhere.
GPL doesn't prevent this. The copyright law does; the bit about derivative works, to be specific. This isn't semantics, it's a fact.
Is mutually exclusive with
Either you are paid for your time/labor, in which case you owe your employee that time/labor and nothing more - specifically, you do not owe your employee any kind of "regard" for his business outside your worktime - or you are a co-enterpreneur, in which case the company is partly yours. You can't have it both ways; you can't have mere employees and require them to care about the company beyond the work they're paid for. Make up your mind.
No they don't. They need to know if you can fullfill the requirements of the job, as stated in the interview and your work contract. There is absolutely no excuse to pry on this beyond "yes" or "no".
Either hire people to act on call as 24/7 emergency response team (or night shift) and pay them accordingly, or accept that any such emergencies go unanswered. But you can't hire someone to a 8-16 job and except them to run to the site in the middle of the night, or on Sunday, or whenever. Not anymore, anyway, thanks to the unions; prior to them, in the dark days of Industrial Revolution, this kind of shit was commonplace.
If people are required after-hours, you either hire multiple shifts or pay people to be on call. What's so difficult to understand about this ?
Unfortunately, this also means that if you make a blunder and reveal your real indentity anywhere, all your online activities are trivially searchable afterwards. It is much better to use different name and password everywhere, to limit the damage done by any such breaches.
Based on the amount of pornsites and -mags advertizing "barely legal" teens, I'd have to say... yes.
So basically, you want the freedom to discriminate against people for things you happen to care for, and ban discrimination on any other basis.
And people wonder why voting percentages go down, when having a wrong political opinion risks getting punished by people like you; and of course "wrong" differs from case to case.
They're going to overcome misfiring neurons with sheer force of will ? I have to admit I find that hard to believe. In any case, I'd imagine a long-time drug abuser unable to stay off them long enough to do their job to have some kind of outward signs of their addiction.
We aren't talking about a courtroom here, where you need to prove something beyond resonable doubt; it is quite sufficient to notice that there's something weird about the person you're talking with.
I think that you're confusing friends and thralls. Thralls obey your every command. Friends don't, altought they might obey a request if they judge it reasonable.
The inability to understand this difference seems to be a recurring theme in US foreign policy, and is exemplified by things like Freedom Fries.
GPL doesn't stop you from releasing your code under whatever license you feel like. It simply stops you from releasing binaries which contain my GPL'd code in compiled form without releasing the code for the whole thing under GPL-compatible license.
No, that's not correct; GPL doesn't stop anyone from doing anything, the copyright law does. GPL graciously allows you to release products incorporating my code in them if you release the code for the whole thing under GPL-compatible license.
Actually, it makes for-pay software development extremely easy and feasible: anyone can hire anyone to add a feature or fix a bug in the open-sourced program.
What product, exactly speaking, does Nethack copy ?
Between trusting my own eyes or some webpage which may or may not be made by the person in question, and may or may not contain any grain of truth, I'll choose my own eyes, thank you very much. It's not like someone who's high on drugs can hide that fact, unless they're really wimpy drugs ;).
Besides, alcohol is a drug; are you going to disqualify a babysitter because you've seen a picture of her drinking beer, despite her never being drunk while on the job ?