...other than the billions of people who think that it is "holy"...
Of course all those billions are wrong, but you and your disbelief are correct. It is an undeniable fact that mankind, at least most people, are inexplicably religious and believe lots of stuff outside of the realm of science. You are saying that science is end all and be all of all reality and there is nothing outside of its grasp. That makes you a worshiper of science. Carl Sagan is now dead but now knows better than that the cosmos he was measuring through science is all there is and ever will be. (...There is absolutely nothing special about Jerusalem...) You're right, that outside of faith there's nothing special about Jerusalem. It doesn't have a great harbor or central location and has only a small fraction of the number of people living there, than in many other great cities of Earth. Yet, it is the only city that is daily in world headlines, being exactly what the Bible foretold it would be, a stumbling block and rock of offense for ALL nations. The last battle of the last war on earth will be fought in the valley of Armageddon, which is only about 30 miles north-west of the city. The object of that war will be that city itself.
.We're discussing science in this thread, not mythology...
In this case there are people who believe, that is have faith, that there is a significant probability of the earth being destroyed by an asteroid. This mythology and belief not science. Nobody KNOWS whether this will happen, it is all conjecture. As someone else posted on this thread, there is 500 times bigger likelihood of winning the jackpot of the lottery.
Historically, all the prophecies without a single exception written in the Bible have so far come true. One of the biggest and most improbable is the existence of Israel against all odds, exactly as it has been foretold thousands of years ago will happen. It did happen in 1948 and Israel has become a thorn in the flesh for all the surrounding nations. That this would happen has also been foretold, specifically concerning the city of Jerusalem, that it would be a thorn in the flesh or stumbling block for the nations, all nations. Can you think of another city on the whole face of the earth, where a zoning change makes headlines in the world's cities newspapers and other media? What other city in the world would it make a difference if they decide to build a hotel or a few apartment houses or not? Because of the contentious nature of Jerusalem, this is exactly what is happening today.
This is not myth, but current events. An asteroid hitting the Earth is a myth or at least highly improbable, where's this is real and written about in every newspaper of Earth.
I don't think that humans will go extinct, at least not before the second coming of Jesus Christ to this earth and then not either. We humans of modern times have come to think that we are in charge of this world even though we did not make it. This world will be destroyed by fire some day, but not until God personally does so. (2Peter 3:7) Contrary to what most people think this day and age, we are not the bosses of this world because this is not our world.
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....then your attempt at security is wasted....
Well yeah, for those users who don't care about security. However, the majority of iPhone and iTouch users DON'T jailbreak their gadgets, because they do care about security or maybe they are just too lazy to care. The vast majority of users would be content to get guaranteed secure solutions on their Macs, just like they get on the iPhone. The small minority of the rest, especially/.ers, would of course figure out how to load lots of pron and other malware on their jailbroken Macs.
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...You just can't preserve the user's freedom while doing so....
Apple has found out about this and has implemented their app store as the only legitimate place to download software for the iPhone that has been filtered and approved. This does limit the users freedom, but it's about the best security that can be had in any computer system. I hope that they will extend the system to the Mac sometime soon.
.....and right now we're in the middle of the great recession,....
What does the recession have to do with this? After all,it works great for the iPhone. People would have a choice to install guaranteed secure applications from the App store, or they could install applications as they do now, except they would get a warning that such applications may not be secure and be malicious. If Microsoft chose not to include their office application in the app store, that would be fine. All it means is that when a user installs Microsoft office or any other program outside from the App store, they get a security warning. Obviously, if I as a user choose to install a well-known applications such as Microsoft Office, I would likely be pretty confident that it is also clean. This would not necessarily be the case for a random download from the Internet.
...I don't have any good solutions to this problem...
Apple does have a solution to this problem for the iPhone. They have to give permission to load any given program on the phone by approving it to be in the app store. Apple could extend this to OSX which many people would appreciate. They could also allow loading other normal nonapproved applications, but these would give the user a draconian security warning about the possibility that the program they are about to approve on their computer is likely to be malicious. For anybody who is willing to restrict themselves to only the applications available in the apps store, and it would did return given the ironclad guarantee, that they could never get a virus, Trojan or other nasty program installed on their computer. No program of any kind would be allowed to execute on the computer, unless it had a signature from Apple, or was specifically approved by the user, who was amply warned of possible dire consequences. It would be kind of like it is done today on jail-broken iPhones.
Up until February of this year, we too lived in the country on a ranch. We had electricity and phone, but all we could get this dial-up. That changed when the phone company put in DSL boxes everywhere in the Valley. We now live in a small town about 5 miles away from the ranch, with a population of about 2500 people. We live about 40 minutes drive from the nearest hospital, but we do have a local medical clinic and a grocery store supermarket. In the summer, the population of our Valley almost doubles because of the many tourists.
Living in a less populated area has its advantages, such as the fact that we have very clean air and water, but to do any serious shopping we depend on our cars as well as doctors appointments and other travel. There is no public transit here.
A cheap Dell or HP is good enough for many people, but the fact that Apple is able to make more money than both of those manufacturers, shows that there are a sizable number of people for whom "good enough" is not good enough and they are willing to pay a premium for a better product. I'm sure there are also plenty of Windows users that simply can't afford a premium computer. They have to be satisfied with what they can afford.
Apparently, Apple knows this better than Microsoft, because they created a walled garden for their iPhone. They should extend this to the Mac by not letting any applications run that they have not first checked out. People, except here on/. possibly, would love to have an assurance that there is no way they could get any nasty program running on their OSX computer ever again. Only approved and signed applications would run, except that Apple could allow the circumvention of this security by the user putting in the admin password whereupon they would be a warned that they might be loading rogue software onto their machine. They could advertise the fact that their software from their iTunes site was ironclad secure, whereas if the user got it anywhere else, there would be no such guarantee. Such a system could be a big selling point for OSX computers made by Apple.
It is always the responsibility of a device manufacturer to make sure that it works with a given computer system. If the system manufacturer makes changes, it is not their responsibility, but the responsibility of the device manufacturer to ensure continued operation. After all, how many devices failed to work properly under VISTA, until their manufacturers wrote new drivers for them.
My point is that if public schools had competition for money, they would have an incentive to improve. As it is, they get paid a certain sum for each student that warms a chair, whether they do a good job teaching or not. Just as private industry competition improves products, so competition in education would do the same thing. The ("christian") madrassas, as you call them, do a far better job giving our children basic education than the average public school which has no competition does.
That is what Apple does really well and why they are making a profit while all the other companies that are their competitors are barely making it. Apple does not usually invent new technology, but take existing new technology that others have may have developed, and make it "just work". There were a number of portable music players and many cell phones on the market, before Apple joined in and did it right. Now the others are playing catch-up.
Hard drives are so cheap these days, I keep an external bootable drive which mirrors the internal one which of course is my main drive. I always install major updates on the external first and see if anything breaks or acts funny. If everything is OK for two or three weeks, I then upgrade the main drive as well. I also read various Mac forums that discuss problems and difficulties.
As is Palm or any device manufacturer free to write their software drivers for their gadget and for any operating system they wish. They or a third-party can do whatever it takes to support a peripheral, but Apple is under no obligation to do so. Even now for their Pre phone, they are too cheap to write a software program that works under OS X that will sync whatever data is needed for proper operation. They were trying to save themselves some money by riding on Apple's coattails. Having their device pretend to be an iPhone, in order to use Apple's software, it is highly deceptive. Apple rightfully squelched their deception.
... the scheduling was fine until they replaced...
a pencil and paper system that worked fine for maybe close to 100 years, with a modern bug infested computer system. In the 1950s a 3500+ student high school was run by a fraction of the number of employees that it takes today. That was back in the day of typewriters, pencils, paper and basic skills teaching.
...that they don't want to pay in to the government-run system....
Except that in case of the schools funded by property tax, those that send their kids to private school or home schoolers still have to pay into the system even though they never make use of it. Anytime the government does something where lots of people are directly involved, they generally screwed it up.
...but if they also have a Palm, they automatically stop being apple's customers ?....
Of course not! However if the manufacturer of the device refuses to support a given operating system, then you have to find a third-party application that may work or get an operating system that will work with your device. If your gadget is very popular, which apparently it is not, Apple might support it or get the manufacturer to support it on their computer.
You're clearly an Apple customer, but does that obligate Apple to support every piece of hardware that a customer might get? It sounds like you need to switch to Microsoft, which somehow feels that they have to support every piece of shit hardware ever made. If it is important for you to connect a given piece of equipment to your computer, then go to the manufacturer of that equipment. If they cannot be bothered to support your computer, you have the choice: get a different computer or a different peripheral device.
....They block people from using their services....
However, there are plenty of other people's services and devices which you are free to buy and enjoy. Apparently though, enough people are using their services and products, that their profits are higher than any other computer maker during this recession. Buy some Apple stock if you can still afford it because it will go up.
...And customers are always, ALWAYS allowed to complain...
Complaining customers are OK if they are really your customers. In the case of a Palm, they're somebody else's customers and they they should be allowed to complain as long and as loud as they wish to and be ignored.
So far, I have mostly heard good things about Windows 7 and I will likely buy a copy to put on a VM on my Mac alongside with Windows XP. I have also tried VISTA, but compared to XP it is slow even on my Mac Pro With 2 GB of RAM allocated solely to the VM.
....Its about that child running Apple, and his petty tantrums.....
Why should Apple not be allowed to have its walled garden? Only those who pay Apple are allowed to enter. They are not like Microsoft, where for the longest time there was no alternative to Windows. If you do not like Apple products, nobody forces you to buy them. Vote with your wallet and stop complaining.
..but because your neighbor should be the easier target...
Actually, there are a number of free WiFi networks in our area that somebody could use automatically. Allowing only certain addresses to connect, makes our network only a tiny bit harder to use than the entirely open networks. For the longest time, our network was entirely open, but I noticed that someone was downloading large files. Putting the simple MAC number security in, stopped that sort of thing.
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...other than the billions of people who think that it is "holy"...
Of course all those billions are wrong, but you and your disbelief are correct. It is an undeniable fact that mankind, at least most people, are inexplicably religious and believe lots of stuff outside of the realm of science. You are saying that science is end all and be all of all reality and there is nothing outside of its grasp. That makes you a worshiper of science. Carl Sagan is now dead but now knows better than that the cosmos he was measuring through science is all there is and ever will be.
(...There is absolutely nothing special about Jerusalem...)
You're right, that outside of faith there's nothing special about Jerusalem. It doesn't have a great harbor or central location and has only a small fraction of the number of people living there, than in many other great cities of Earth. Yet, it is the only city that is daily in world headlines, being exactly what the Bible foretold it would be, a stumbling block and rock of offense for ALL nations. The last battle of the last war on earth will be fought in the valley of Armageddon, which is only about 30 miles north-west of the city. The object of that war will be that city itself.
.We're discussing science in this thread, not mythology...
In this case there are people who believe, that is have faith, that there is a significant probability of the earth being destroyed by an asteroid. This mythology and belief not science. Nobody KNOWS whether this will happen, it is all conjecture. As someone else posted on this thread, there is 500 times bigger likelihood of winning the jackpot of the lottery.
Historically, all the prophecies without a single exception written in the Bible have so far come true. One of the biggest and most improbable is the existence of Israel against all odds, exactly as it has been foretold thousands of years ago will happen. It did happen in 1948 and Israel has become a thorn in the flesh for all the surrounding nations. That this would happen has also been foretold, specifically concerning the city of Jerusalem, that it would be a thorn in the flesh or stumbling block for the nations, all nations. Can you think of another city on the whole face of the earth, where a zoning change makes headlines in the world's cities newspapers and other media? What other city in the world would it make a difference if they decide to build a hotel or a few apartment houses or not? Because of the contentious nature of Jerusalem, this is exactly what is happening today.
This is not myth, but current events. An asteroid hitting the Earth is a myth or at least highly improbable, where's this is real and written about in every newspaper of Earth.
...If humans do go extinct,...
I don't think that humans will go extinct, at least not before the second coming of Jesus Christ to this earth and then not either. We humans of modern times have come to think that we are in charge of this world even though we did not make it. This world will be destroyed by fire some day, but not until God personally does so. (2Peter 3:7) Contrary to what most people think this day and age, we are not the bosses of this world because this is not our world.
....then your attempt at security is wasted....
Well yeah, for those users who don't care about security. However, the majority of iPhone and iTouch users DON'T jailbreak their gadgets, because they do care about security or maybe they are just too lazy to care. The vast majority of users would be content to get guaranteed secure solutions on their Macs, just like they get on the iPhone. The small minority of the rest, especially /.ers, would of course figure out how to load lots of pron and other malware on their jailbroken Macs.
...You just can't preserve the user's freedom while doing so....
Apple has found out about this and has implemented their app store as the only legitimate place to download software for the iPhone that has been filtered and approved. This does limit the users freedom, but it's about the best security that can be had in any computer system. I hope that they will extend the system to the Mac sometime soon.
.....and right now we're in the middle of the great recession,....
What does the recession have to do with this? After all,it works great for the iPhone. People would have a choice to install guaranteed secure applications from the App store, or they could install applications as they do now, except they would get a warning that such applications may not be secure and be malicious. If Microsoft chose not to include their office application in the app store, that would be fine. All it means is that when a user installs Microsoft office or any other program outside from the App store, they get a security warning. Obviously, if I as a user choose to install a well-known applications such as Microsoft Office, I would likely be pretty confident that it is also clean. This would not necessarily be the case for a random download from the Internet.
...I don't have any good solutions to this problem ...
Apple does have a solution to this problem for the iPhone. They have to give permission to load any given program on the phone by approving it to be in the app store. Apple could extend this to OSX which many people would appreciate. They could also allow loading other normal nonapproved applications, but these would give the user a draconian security warning about the possibility that the program they are about to approve on their computer is likely to be malicious. For anybody who is willing to restrict themselves to only the applications available in the apps store, and it would did return given the ironclad guarantee, that they could never get a virus, Trojan or other nasty program installed on their computer. No program of any kind would be allowed to execute on the computer, unless it had a signature from Apple, or was specifically approved by the user, who was amply warned of possible dire consequences. It would be kind of like it is done today on jail-broken iPhones.
.... We even have electricity!....
Up until February of this year, we too lived in the country on a ranch. We had electricity and phone, but all we could get this dial-up. That changed when the phone company put in DSL boxes everywhere in the Valley. We now live in a small town about 5 miles away from the ranch, with a population of about 2500 people. We live about 40 minutes drive from the nearest hospital, but we do have a local medical clinic and a grocery store supermarket. In the summer, the population of our Valley almost doubles because of the many tourists.
Living in a less populated area has its advantages, such as the fact that we have very clean air and water, but to do any serious shopping we depend on our cars as well as doctors appointments and other travel. There is no public transit here.
....People won't accept "good enough"...
A cheap Dell or HP is good enough for many people, but the fact that Apple is able to make more money than both of those manufacturers, shows that there are a sizable number of people for whom "good enough" is not good enough and they are willing to pay a premium for a better product. I'm sure there are also plenty of Windows users that simply can't afford a premium computer. They have to be satisfied with what they can afford.
...Windows Vista still wastes 5 gigabytes of disk space....
Now that is a big deal with terabyte disk drives costing under $100?
...that I'm a suburbanite who has escaped the city....
You can't be that far in the boonies, because you're posting on /. That means you must have at least a dial-up Internet connection and a telephone.
...this is about what customers perceive...
Apparently, Apple knows this better than Microsoft, because they created a walled garden for their iPhone. They should extend this to the Mac by not letting any applications run that they have not first checked out. People, except here on /. possibly, would love to have an assurance that there is no way they could get any nasty program running on their OSX computer ever again. Only approved and signed applications would run, except that Apple could allow the circumvention of this security by the user putting in the admin password whereupon they would be a warned that they might be loading rogue software onto their machine. They could advertise the fact that their software from their iTunes site was ironclad secure, whereas if the user got it anywhere else, there would be no such guarantee. Such a system could be a big selling point for OSX computers made by Apple.
...They care that it works....
It is always the responsibility of a device manufacturer to make sure that it works with a given computer system. If the system manufacturer makes changes, it is not their responsibility, but the responsibility of the device manufacturer to ensure continued operation. After all, how many devices failed to work properly under VISTA, until their manufacturers wrote new drivers for them.
...What's your point?...
My point is that if public schools had competition for money, they would have an incentive to improve. As it is, they get paid a certain sum for each student that warms a chair, whether they do a good job teaching or not. Just as private industry competition improves products, so competition in education would do the same thing. The ("christian") madrassas, as you call them, do a far better job giving our children basic education than the average public school which has no competition does.
...Think of the future!!!...
That is what Apple does really well and why they are making a profit while all the other companies that are their competitors are barely making it. Apple does not usually invent new technology, but take existing new technology that others have may have developed, and make it "just work". There were a number of portable music players and many cell phones on the market, before Apple joined in and did it right. Now the others are playing catch-up.
Hard drives are so cheap these days, I keep an external bootable drive which mirrors the internal one which of course is my main drive. I always install major updates on the external first and see if anything breaks or acts funny. If everything is OK for two or three weeks, I then upgrade the main drive as well. I also read various Mac forums that discuss problems and difficulties.
....Of course Apple is free to do this...
As is Palm or any device manufacturer free to write their software drivers for their gadget and for any operating system they wish. They or a third-party can do whatever it takes to support a peripheral, but Apple is under no obligation to do so. Even now for their Pre phone, they are too cheap to write a software program that works under OS X that will sync whatever data is needed for proper operation. They were trying to save themselves some money by riding on Apple's coattails. Having their device pretend to be an iPhone, in order to use Apple's software, it is highly deceptive. Apple rightfully squelched their deception.
... the scheduling was fine until they replaced...
a pencil and paper system that worked fine for maybe close to 100 years, with a modern bug infested computer system. In the 1950s a 3500+ student high school was run by a fraction of the number of employees that it takes today. That was back in the day of typewriters, pencils, paper and basic skills teaching.
...that they don't want to pay in to the government-run system....
Except that in case of the schools funded by property tax, those that send their kids to private school or home schoolers still have to pay into the system even though they never make use of it. Anytime the government does something where lots of people are directly involved, they generally screwed it up.
...but if they also have a Palm, they automatically stop being apple's customers ?....
Of course not! However if the manufacturer of the device refuses to support a given operating system, then you have to find a third-party application that may work or get an operating system that will work with your device. If your gadget is very popular, which apparently it is not, Apple might support it or get the manufacturer to support it on their computer.
.... whose customer am I?....
You're clearly an Apple customer, but does that obligate Apple to support every piece of hardware that a customer might get? It sounds like you need to switch to Microsoft, which somehow feels that they have to support every piece of shit hardware ever made. If it is important for you to connect a given piece of equipment to your computer, then go to the manufacturer of that equipment. If they cannot be bothered to support your computer, you have the choice: get a different computer or a different peripheral device.
....They block people from using their services ....
However, there are plenty of other people's services and devices which you are free to buy and enjoy. Apparently though, enough people are using their services and products, that their profits are higher than any other computer maker during this recession. Buy some Apple stock if you can still afford it because it will go up.
...And customers are always, ALWAYS allowed to complain...
Complaining customers are OK if they are really your customers. In the case of a Palm, they're somebody else's customers and they they should be allowed to complain as long and as loud as they wish to and be ignored.
....There is a special place in Hell ...
So far, I have mostly heard good things about Windows 7 and I will likely buy a copy to put on a VM on my Mac alongside with Windows XP. I have also tried VISTA, but compared to XP it is slow even on my Mac Pro With 2 GB of RAM allocated solely to the VM.
....Its about that child running Apple, and his petty tantrums.....
Why should Apple not be allowed to have its walled garden? Only those who pay Apple are allowed to enter. They are not like Microsoft, where for the longest time there was no alternative to Windows. If you do not like Apple products, nobody forces you to buy them. Vote with your wallet and stop complaining.
..but because your neighbor should be the easier target...
Actually, there are a number of free WiFi networks in our area that somebody could use automatically. Allowing only certain addresses to connect, makes our network only a tiny bit harder to use than the entirely open networks. For the longest time, our network was entirely open, but I noticed that someone was downloading large files. Putting the simple MAC number security in, stopped that sort of thing.