Hee, hee, go fuck yourself. Part of my family has has been in the Untied States since 1784, when they came from Cornwall to live in the frontiers of Vermont where they were mail carriers and known to "associate with Indians, trappers, Frenchmen, and other unsavory persons" (Bixby family history). Others arrived in the 1850s and '60s and settled in Cleveland. Speaking mostly French or German, they moved to wilds of northern Michigan about the time of the Cleveland draft riots, where they contested with bears, wolves, and Mormon raiders to survive winters unthinkable today and even prosper. The latest arrival was a French-Canadian who paddled across the Saint Mary's River in the 1880s to work in the copper mines of Calumet and marry a Swedish bride.
None ever had a visa, none ever filled out a form in an embassy before arriving, none ever had a green card, none ever asked a bureaucrat for permission to live and work here. They just arrived, went to work, paid their taxes, and in four years they were citizens with full voting rights. Not until my cousin married a redneck from Alabama did I ever hear anyone complain about people who wanted to come here to work and provide a better life for their families.
What are you frightened of? Someone going to work harder than you and take away your job at the McDonalds?
Lot easier to have two hard drives. I actually used to do this, we had a customer who would not allow us to use our company-issued laptop on their network unless we re-installed the OS from their custom image. When I would go to the customer site I'd swap hard drives and be up in running in just a couple of minutes. I suppose if they wanted to be really paranoid they could FedEx the second hard drive between countries, but I've never seen Fatherland Security take even a second glance at my second drive, just at my 2-ounce bottle of hot sauce (which they've confiscated three times).
Then you need to re-read the Constitution. It very clearly says "persons" anywhere that it is not referring to citizens of individual states or the right to vote or hold public office. Has your family been in the US for more than about 85 years? If so, then for the first four years they lived in the US they were "non-citizen scum", because they didn't have a visa, they didn't get a green card, they walked off a boat or across a border and went to work. Four years later they could become citizens if they could string together enough English words in a row to register. A much saner method than the one in use today.
Organizations and companies are not people or citizens, they do not have any rights. At least in theory, of course in practice we all know that Halliburton and RJ Reynolds have more "rights" than you and I, but they really shouldn't.
This has always seemed such a silly definition. A "suitcase nuke" is simply a howitzer-launched nuke (which have been around since the '50s) with the casing stripped off to save weight. Since 95+ percent of the cargo containers coming into the US, and almost none of the bulk freight, are not inspected the whole idea that it's necessary to search the baggage of individual travelers to prevent an atrocity is absurd. Hell, that's the way most of the drugs and black-market weapons come into the US, the tunnels and submarines that make the headlines are small-time operators trying to get into the market.
If I were to send a nuclear weapon to the US I would put it in a cargo container addressed to a WalMart distribution center, set to go off if 1) the container is breached, 2) cell phone is called, or 3) GPS coordinates are reached. Lot higher chance of success, no need to get a visa for some suicide looney.
Wrong. The only place in the Constitution where citizenship is a consideration is the right to vote and to hold public office. That's it, the rest of the Constitution applies to everyone (which is the reason for the siting of Gitmo) who happens to be in the Untied States. There isn't even any consideration of a limitation as to who could or couldn't enter the country, the entire immigration process as it exists is extra-constitutional.
Every time I think I have a good definition of what 'tinfoil hat paranoia' is they move the goal posts a little further. I find it's the same when I think I've found the absolutely most incompetent IT staff, too.
If one is independently wealthy they almost never have problems crossing borders. Bureaucrats and law enforcement officials are well aware of the career-destroying abilities of the rich.
I hitchhiked to Cape Canaveral for the third launch of Colombia, and went to the visitor's center there. Lying outside was a complete Saturn 5. Inside the visitor's center's museum was the matching LEM, Command Module and Rover. IIRC this was the assembly for the cancelled Apollo 19. Talking with staff at the center I found that there were three others scattered around the country, from the rest of the cancelled missions. They said that everything had been purchased and delivered for all four missions, even the fuel, and all that remained was the least expensive portion of the projects, conducting the actual missions. One of the other visitors who had joined the discussion said, "Since the only NASA and JPL would be necessary to that part there wasn't any need to fund it. Their real constituents, Boeing, Honeywell and such, had gotten their money already. Better to take the mission funding and spend it on killing brown people."
On my way back out I looked at that enormous, glorious marvel of engineering abandoned and baking in the sun and cried. The Shuttle launch was spectacular, but that image is the one that I still remember most vividly.
I'm hoping this is just one of the best trolls I've seen in a while. If not, I would recommend counseling, and some Preparation H for the anal probing.
I might be wrong, but I think roman_mir has been downmodded so many times he posts at 0 to start with, so it would only take one moderator.
It would have been a waste of electrons anyway, he's of the opinion that absolutely everything on the planet should have a private owner, up to and including the fucking Great Lakes (really). He probably thinks the same about the oceans as well, although I haven't seen him explicitly say that. His solution to any issue that might have to do with the concept of the Commons is private ownership and thundering herds of lawyers suing everyone on the planet. He's quite a fanatic about it.
You don't walk the rails, I take it. I've spent plenty of time walking down miles of railroad track over the years, and it has always surprised me how few incidents there are considering the state of the tracks.
Most of the Keystone Pipeline is already in operation, another portion is being built. The only part currently being blocked is the portion that would bring Alberta Tar Sands product to the Gulf Coast, which is not what this train was carrying anyway. Face it, that portion of the pipeline is a retarded idea anyway, the Canucks should be refining it nearby rather than sending it several thousand kilometers away for refining. The only reason they wanted that portion of the pipeline is because oil company executives are so resistant to investing in new infrastructure with more than a 3 year payback (why would they spend that money if it will reduce the value of their stock options when they hop to another job, after all?)
we simply cannot support the size of our population without it.
There is an answer for that, the same answer that Mother Nature gives any animal that exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment. We either have to reduce our population, or Ma Nature will do it for us and she's a bitch. We're like deer on an island with no predators, at some point the cheap oil/cheap fertilizer/cheap food/rising population lines are going to converge, and it won't be pretty.
Phobos and Deimos are both almost certainly captured asteroids, rather than having formed in the planet's orbit like the moons of the gas giants and Earth.
*nix programmers are expensive. Windows programmers are a dime a dozen, especially in India and the Philippines. Remember, these are the organizations that hosted web sites where changing the account number in the URL would give complete control over someone else's account. They've eliminated everyone on their IT staff they could, and contracted everything possible out to the lowest bidder.
Roman_mir tried to convince me that the reason the Cuyahoga River burned was because it didn't have an owner. Everything in RonPaulLand apparently should have an owner, there are no Commons. The owner of the Cuyahoga River would have sued the companies dumping into it, they would have stopped, and everything would have been wonderful. When asked about why the owner wouldn't have just licensed them to pollute it as much as they wanted, or just sold it to the chemical and paint companies, the reply was that the owner of the next waterway downriver would have sued. Apparently Lake Erie needs an owner as well.
Not sure why every Libertardian solution that touches on the Commons needs thundering herds of lawyers, but apparently in RonPaulLand judges and juries are always competent and uncorruptable.
Of course when you can't access the actual ballots except with a court order, and you can't get a court order without some proof that wrongdoing has occurred, the paper trail is kind of moot.
Running *nix on ATMs would go against the banks' standard practice of 'low bid always gets the job.' Keep in mind that these are the same organizations who allowed access to any account configured for online banking simply by changing the account number in the address bar of the browser (and then left it that way for years). Had an instructor who did pen tests for financial institutions, the stories he told were depressing.
Hee, hee, go fuck yourself. Part of my family has has been in the Untied States since 1784, when they came from Cornwall to live in the frontiers of Vermont where they were mail carriers and known to "associate with Indians, trappers, Frenchmen, and other unsavory persons" (Bixby family history). Others arrived in the 1850s and '60s and settled in Cleveland. Speaking mostly French or German, they moved to wilds of northern Michigan about the time of the Cleveland draft riots, where they contested with bears, wolves, and Mormon raiders to survive winters unthinkable today and even prosper. The latest arrival was a French-Canadian who paddled across the Saint Mary's River in the 1880s to work in the copper mines of Calumet and marry a Swedish bride.
None ever had a visa, none ever filled out a form in an embassy before arriving, none ever had a green card, none ever asked a bureaucrat for permission to live and work here. They just arrived, went to work, paid their taxes, and in four years they were citizens with full voting rights. Not until my cousin married a redneck from Alabama did I ever hear anyone complain about people who wanted to come here to work and provide a better life for their families.
What are you frightened of? Someone going to work harder than you and take away your job at the McDonalds?
I voted against McCain/Palin, not for Obama.
Same here. You don't have a meteoric rise in Chicago politics without having proved to the PTB that you're for sale, and that you will stay bought.
Lot easier to have two hard drives. I actually used to do this, we had a customer who would not allow us to use our company-issued laptop on their network unless we re-installed the OS from their custom image. When I would go to the customer site I'd swap hard drives and be up in running in just a couple of minutes. I suppose if they wanted to be really paranoid they could FedEx the second hard drive between countries, but I've never seen Fatherland Security take even a second glance at my second drive, just at my 2-ounce bottle of hot sauce (which they've confiscated three times).
Then you need to re-read the Constitution. It very clearly says "persons" anywhere that it is not referring to citizens of individual states or the right to vote or hold public office. Has your family been in the US for more than about 85 years? If so, then for the first four years they lived in the US they were "non-citizen scum", because they didn't have a visa, they didn't get a green card, they walked off a boat or across a border and went to work. Four years later they could become citizens if they could string together enough English words in a row to register. A much saner method than the one in use today.
Organizations and companies are not people or citizens, they do not have any rights. At least in theory, of course in practice we all know that Halliburton and RJ Reynolds have more "rights" than you and I, but they really shouldn't.
This has always seemed such a silly definition. A "suitcase nuke" is simply a howitzer-launched nuke (which have been around since the '50s) with the casing stripped off to save weight. Since 95+ percent of the cargo containers coming into the US, and almost none of the bulk freight, are not inspected the whole idea that it's necessary to search the baggage of individual travelers to prevent an atrocity is absurd. Hell, that's the way most of the drugs and black-market weapons come into the US, the tunnels and submarines that make the headlines are small-time operators trying to get into the market.
If I were to send a nuclear weapon to the US I would put it in a cargo container addressed to a WalMart distribution center, set to go off if 1) the container is breached, 2) cell phone is called, or 3) GPS coordinates are reached. Lot higher chance of success, no need to get a visa for some suicide looney.
So says the brave little Anonymous Coward . . . the eternal Internet tough guy who in reality says, "Yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir!"
Wrong. The only place in the Constitution where citizenship is a consideration is the right to vote and to hold public office. That's it, the rest of the Constitution applies to everyone (which is the reason for the siting of Gitmo) who happens to be in the Untied States. There isn't even any consideration of a limitation as to who could or couldn't enter the country, the entire immigration process as it exists is extra-constitutional.
Every time I think I have a good definition of what 'tinfoil hat paranoia' is they move the goal posts a little further. I find it's the same when I think I've found the absolutely most incompetent IT staff, too.
If one is independently wealthy they almost never have problems crossing borders. Bureaucrats and law enforcement officials are well aware of the career-destroying abilities of the rich.
I hitchhiked to Cape Canaveral for the third launch of Colombia, and went to the visitor's center there. Lying outside was a complete Saturn 5. Inside the visitor's center's museum was the matching LEM, Command Module and Rover. IIRC this was the assembly for the cancelled Apollo 19. Talking with staff at the center I found that there were three others scattered around the country, from the rest of the cancelled missions. They said that everything had been purchased and delivered for all four missions, even the fuel, and all that remained was the least expensive portion of the projects, conducting the actual missions. One of the other visitors who had joined the discussion said, "Since the only NASA and JPL would be necessary to that part there wasn't any need to fund it. Their real constituents, Boeing, Honeywell and such, had gotten their money already. Better to take the mission funding and spend it on killing brown people."
On my way back out I looked at that enormous, glorious marvel of engineering abandoned and baking in the sun and cried. The Shuttle launch was spectacular, but that image is the one that I still remember most vividly.
I'm hoping this is just one of the best trolls I've seen in a while. If not, I would recommend counseling, and some Preparation H for the anal probing.
I might be wrong, but I think roman_mir has been downmodded so many times he posts at 0 to start with, so it would only take one moderator.
It would have been a waste of electrons anyway, he's of the opinion that absolutely everything on the planet should have a private owner, up to and including the fucking Great Lakes (really). He probably thinks the same about the oceans as well, although I haven't seen him explicitly say that. His solution to any issue that might have to do with the concept of the Commons is private ownership and thundering herds of lawyers suing everyone on the planet. He's quite a fanatic about it.
You don't walk the rails, I take it. I've spent plenty of time walking down miles of railroad track over the years, and it has always surprised me how few incidents there are considering the state of the tracks.
Most of the Keystone Pipeline is already in operation, another portion is being built. The only part currently being blocked is the portion that would bring Alberta Tar Sands product to the Gulf Coast, which is not what this train was carrying anyway. Face it, that portion of the pipeline is a retarded idea anyway, the Canucks should be refining it nearby rather than sending it several thousand kilometers away for refining. The only reason they wanted that portion of the pipeline is because oil company executives are so resistant to investing in new infrastructure with more than a 3 year payback (why would they spend that money if it will reduce the value of their stock options when they hop to another job, after all?)
They're already fracking the hell out of the ground below the Ogalla Aquifer, I'm not optimistic about its long-term health already.
we simply cannot support the size of our population without it.
There is an answer for that, the same answer that Mother Nature gives any animal that exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment. We either have to reduce our population, or Ma Nature will do it for us and she's a bitch. We're like deer on an island with no predators, at some point the cheap oil/cheap fertilizer/cheap food/rising population lines are going to converge, and it won't be pretty.
Especially annoying when Hatch has repeatedly been caught infringing copyright on his web site and in many of his speeches.
Phobos and Deimos are both almost certainly captured asteroids, rather than having formed in the planet's orbit like the moons of the gas giants and Earth.
*nix programmers are expensive. Windows programmers are a dime a dozen, especially in India and the Philippines. Remember, these are the organizations that hosted web sites where changing the account number in the URL would give complete control over someone else's account. They've eliminated everyone on their IT staff they could, and contracted everything possible out to the lowest bidder.
The lowest bidder, of course.
Roman_mir tried to convince me that the reason the Cuyahoga River burned was because it didn't have an owner. Everything in RonPaulLand apparently should have an owner, there are no Commons. The owner of the Cuyahoga River would have sued the companies dumping into it, they would have stopped, and everything would have been wonderful. When asked about why the owner wouldn't have just licensed them to pollute it as much as they wanted, or just sold it to the chemical and paint companies, the reply was that the owner of the next waterway downriver would have sued. Apparently Lake Erie needs an owner as well.
Not sure why every Libertardian solution that touches on the Commons needs thundering herds of lawyers, but apparently in RonPaulLand judges and juries are always competent and uncorruptable.
Yes, before the creation of the EPA.
Of course when you can't access the actual ballots except with a court order, and you can't get a court order without some proof that wrongdoing has occurred, the paper trail is kind of moot.
Running *nix on ATMs would go against the banks' standard practice of 'low bid always gets the job.' Keep in mind that these are the same organizations who allowed access to any account configured for online banking simply by changing the account number in the address bar of the browser (and then left it that way for years). Had an instructor who did pen tests for financial institutions, the stories he told were depressing.