'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change
"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.' Lovelock still believes the climate is changing, but at a much, much slower pace."
" The plant kingdom relies on nitrates too, that does not mean that dumping thousands of tons of nitrates into a river is not pollution. CO2 fixation is a feedback cycle. It normally is in stable equilibrium, which means that more CO2 in the atmosphere leads to faster fixation by plants. This is kind of like how a ball in a bowl will return to the equilibrium point if you disturb it. However, if you push the ball hard enough, it will go over the edge and no longer be in equilibrium. This is what happened to CO2"
Excuse me but do you actually know anything about plants and ecology? This really sounds like you're making it up. It's not even close. We don't know what happens over 7000ppm. But under that, things are fine. How did corals, for example, survive this - they did. Any guesses there?
You are aware aren't you that people that grow plants, both terrestrial and aquatic pump in tons of CO2 to enhance growth and that all plants are C02 rate limited and that when NASA addeed this fact into the the model is showed that doubling CO2 made things just one degree warmer? And the next year the IPCC folks "discovered" trees eat CO2...
Since they hold no precept to reason, they've already cut press releases to the faithful saying they won; in their world it's true.
Those who do abide by reason already know it's true; this won't make it any more true.
I really don't see what this will accomplish. If somebody *wants* to learn, they'll wiki it and learn from that starting point. It they don't, pushing it in their face just wastes time and annoys the pig.
$22 million for each mental health recovery November 21, 2010 at 6:24pm On October 27, 2000, King County in Washington State, by a vote of 11 to 1, passed a very unusual ordinance. This directed psychiatrists working in the state mental health system to make their patients well and to report annually on how successful they had been in achieving this goal. The ordinance defined exactly what was to be considered a mental health recovery. Such a former patient had to be able to meet four criteria. They must have become well enough to engage in volunteer work, or be employed full or part-time, or be engaged in culturally appropriate activities, or be pursuing educational or vocational opportunities. Secondly, a recovered mental patient had to be living independently or in supported housing. Thirdly, they must have been discharged from the county’s publicly funded mental health system or, at most, be receiving only infrequent maintenance services. Lastly, when tested they must be able to score 81 or more on the Global Assessment of Function Scale. This scale measures such things as aggression, ability to communicate, and level of personal hygiene.
It is now some 3 years since this ordinance was passed and the required initial report on the efficacy of the system has been issued, covering the period January 1 through December 31, 2001. King County, Washington is not a rural backwater. It is one of the most progressive counties in the US, the location of Seattle. So what did the residents of King County get for themore than $90 million they spent on mental health in 2001? According to the first mandated report, 7,831 mental patients, mainly schizophrenics and patients with major depression,were treated during the year. Of these, 6,949 (88.7%) showed no change, 597 (8%) displayed some improvement, 285 (4%)regressed, and four (0.05%) recovered. Put another way, ifyou suffered from schizophrenia, major depression, or othermental illness in King County during 2001, your chance of a full recovery was less that one in one thousand.
That is, the residents of the Seattle area are paying over $22 million for each mental health recovery.
In Medieval times, victims of the bubonic plague had a far better chance of recovery than this. Treated with hot onion, fig, and treacle poultices or partially plucked pigeons to draw off poisons from their swollen lymphnodes, they were much more likely to completely recover than schizophrenics receiving the best treatments that modern psychiatry has to offer. If you believe that this is acceptable,throw this book away. If not, seriously consider the alternative treatments that stem from an acceptance of the adrenochrome hypotheses.
Soapstone has this weird property - it sucks up heat faster and gives it off more slowly than any other stone and the best type of this stuff comes from Goa. 8 years ago I ran into a guy in Germany making these things. Looks like he found an importer.
They've used this design for hundreds of years and the soapstone is just the latest and possibly most clever refinement.
We had a cheap wood stove. It leaked so much ash and smoke it gave one of my kids a chest problem that took years to get rid of. Fuck those things. Do it right or don't do it, you have no right to pollute and make barely safe forms of heating; in this area once a year some house goes up in a chimney fire because of these dangerous pieces of shit.
It was slow to load, I couldn't sign up, my browser hung waiting on lost connections with the too many other files it was trying to download and there seem to be server sync problems with the back end databases.
In other words it acts like PayPal, Google, Facebook and Slashdot.
Who ever believed a bunch of rich guys would make themselves less rich to prove a point. Some things are sacred.
The only really weird part was their last minute stall to try to make health care an out of pocket expense for lawmakers and their assistants.
Anybody have a theory as to what that was all about. Effectively they're voting themselves a pay cut ("unprecedented") and were willing to tank the global economy to get it. Why was it that important they vote themselves less money? How is this not a red flag?
Watch the Crockford videos. There's at lease 8 hours of stuff you don't know or else you'd never say such silly things.
I blackholed java.com, it was all I could do to keep that damn virus from coming back. Loading it transparently is naughty.
What do I miss? Holy shit, absolutely nothing. And XP stays up for months now. Golly. It's no FreeBSD, but hey anything longer than a day and you were living on borrowed time before.
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'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change
"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.' Lovelock still believes the climate is changing, but at a much, much slower pace."
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_...
The earth is warming? Really?
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...
http://www.nature.com/nclimate...
http://news.ku.dk/all_news/201...
Can you please explain these then?
" The plant kingdom relies on nitrates too, that does not mean that dumping thousands of tons of nitrates into a river is not pollution. CO2 fixation is a feedback cycle. It normally is in stable equilibrium, which means that more CO2 in the atmosphere leads to faster fixation by plants. This is kind of like how a ball in a bowl will return to the equilibrium point if you disturb it. However, if you push the ball hard enough, it will go over the edge and no longer be in equilibrium. This is what happened to CO2"
Excuse me but do you actually know anything about plants and ecology? This really sounds like you're making it up. It's not even close. We don't know what happens over 7000ppm. But under that, things are fine. How did corals, for example, survive this - they did. Any guesses there?
You are aware aren't you that people that grow plants, both terrestrial and aquatic pump in tons of CO2 to enhance growth and that all plants are C02 rate limited and that when NASA addeed this fact into the the model is showed that doubling CO2 made things just one degree warmer? And the next year the IPCC folks "discovered" trees eat CO2...
Please tell me this isn't news to you.
"did does not mean that CO2 is not pollution"
It's plant food. Fact: all plant life on earth, terrestrial and aquatic, is carbon dioxide rate-limited.
While you're looking this up (please do) look up what "CAM" plants are, too.
All of them. Which ones have held up? Show me one.
"The specifics of the models get tweaked continuously"
And after 35 years of tweaking the, um, *cough* error bars are um, well...
75% error between the 2007 and 2012 IPCC reports.
You sure they're tweaking the right way?
Look the numbers up yourself.
"When your hypothesis disagrees with nature,it's wrong" - Feynman.
Try to prove there is a god. You can't, cause there isn't.
You're the one who's deluded, buddy.
" unable to digest starch and milk"
Newsflash: we still can't digest starch. Nor is there any dietary need for it. Only 2/3 of the world carries the gene to digest gluten.
Everybody can digest milk, it's our first food. 1/3 of the world can digest lactose past childhood. Article makes no sense.
...this happened then, as well. It was in the Toronto Star; august or the fall, I think.
The two vortexes over the arctic (one over Baffin Island, one over Siberia) were joined by a third one.
Owsley wrorte an essay on this that became the movie _The Day After Tommorow_ (If you know The Bear you know where to find this)
Since they hold no precept to reason, they've already cut press releases to the faithful saying they won; in their world it's true.
Those who do abide by reason already know it's true; this won't make it any more true.
I really don't see what this will accomplish. If somebody *wants* to learn, they'll wiki it and learn from that starting point. It they don't, pushing it in their face just wastes time and annoys the pig.
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$22 million for each mental health recovery
November 21, 2010 at 6:24pm
On October 27, 2000, King County in Washington State, by a vote of 11 to 1, passed a very unusual ordinance. This directed psychiatrists working in the state mental health system to make their patients well and to report annually on how successful they had been in achieving this goal. The ordinance defined exactly what was to be considered a mental health recovery. Such a former patient had to be able to meet four criteria. They must have become well enough to engage in volunteer work, or be employed full or part-time, or be engaged in culturally appropriate activities, or be pursuing educational or vocational opportunities. Secondly, a recovered mental patient had to be living independently or in supported housing. Thirdly, they must have been discharged from the county’s publicly funded mental health system or, at most, be receiving only infrequent maintenance services. Lastly, when tested they must be able to score 81 or more on the Global Assessment of Function Scale. This scale measures such things as aggression, ability to communicate, and level of personal hygiene.
It is now some 3 years since this ordinance was passed and the required initial report on the efficacy of the system has been issued, covering the period January 1 through December 31, 2001. King County, Washington is not a rural backwater. It is one of the most progressive counties in the US, the location of Seattle. So what did the residents of King County get for themore than $90 million they spent on mental health in 2001? According to the first mandated report, 7,831 mental patients, mainly schizophrenics and patients with major depression,were treated during the year. Of these, 6,949 (88.7%) showed no change, 597 (8%) displayed some improvement, 285 (4%)regressed, and four (0.05%) recovered. Put another way, ifyou suffered from schizophrenia, major depression, or othermental illness in King County during 2001, your chance of a full recovery was less that one in one thousand.
That is, the residents of the Seattle area are paying over $22 million for each mental health recovery.
In Medieval times, victims of the bubonic plague had a far better chance of recovery than this. Treated with hot onion, fig, and treacle poultices or partially plucked pigeons to draw off poisons from their swollen lymphnodes, they were much more likely to completely recover than schizophrenics receiving the best treatments that modern psychiatry has to offer. If you believe that this is acceptable,throw this book away. If not, seriously consider the alternative treatments that stem from an acceptance of the adrenochrome hypotheses.
H.D. Foster, "What really causes schizophrenia" P 208-209
http://hdfoster.com/sites/hdfoster.com/files/users/user6/Foster_Schizophrenia.pdf
See also: http://rs79.vrx.net/works/books/Bionutrition/refs/madness/
Also google scholar: "prousky anxiety niacin families"
Tulikivi? /me - impressed as hell. You did good. Real good.
Yup. They're not banning all wood stoves, just the egregious polluters. Which is most of them.
Stuff like this is genius: http://www.soapstones.com/soapstone_masonry_heater.html
Soapstone has this weird property - it sucks up heat faster and gives it off more slowly than any other stone and the best type of this stuff comes from Goa. 8 years ago I ran into a guy in Germany making these things. Looks like he found an importer.
They've used this design for hundreds of years and the soapstone is just the latest and possibly most clever refinement.
We had a cheap wood stove. It leaked so much ash and smoke it gave one of my kids a chest problem that took years to get rid of. Fuck those things. Do it right or don't do it, you have no right to pollute and make barely safe forms of heating; in this area once a year some house goes up in a chimney fire because of these dangerous pieces of shit.
It was slow to load, I couldn't sign up, my browser hung waiting on lost connections with the too many other files it was trying to download and there seem to be server sync problems with the back end databases.
In other words it acts like PayPal, Google, Facebook and Slashdot.
This is really getting monotonous.
Deforestation caused this. Read enough and you'll figure it out.
I know, I know, they'd never lie to you. Read.
"Early reports of those trying to renew insurance or get into exchanges are finding rates near double or more of the previous rates."
Are you aware you can keep your current insurance?
Balloon over time to something like the Canadian system, about 6X cheaper about 4X as good.
Look at infant mortality rates and cost. The USA gets the least value for it's medical care dollar than nearly anyone.
Maybe if there weren't so many middlemen? Do the math.
Bingo.
Who ever believed a bunch of rich guys would make themselves less rich to prove a point. Some things are sacred.
The only really weird part was their last minute stall to try to make health care an out of pocket expense for lawmakers and their assistants.
Anybody have a theory as to what that was all about. Effectively they're voting themselves a pay cut ("unprecedented") and were willing to tank the global economy to get it. Why was it that important they vote themselves less money? How is this not a red flag?
There's evidence for this at last? Really?
[citation required]
Biiig problem since the last ice age. Seems to have slowed down now. When was the last time YOU actually checked?
Watch the Crockford videos. There's at lease 8 hours of stuff you don't know or else you'd never say such silly things.
I blackholed java.com, it was all I could do to keep that damn virus from coming back. Loading it transparently is naughty.
What do I miss? Holy shit, absolutely nothing. And XP stays up for months now. Golly. It's no FreeBSD, but hey anything longer than a day and you were living on borrowed time before.
MUAH HA HA HA.
Communists are in the wifes jam, too.
Have you stopped taking your meds again?
This isn't rocket science. Read the lease. Either the fed can do this or they can't. It's not like we don't have laws governing such things.
...until somebody dies.
Read the fine print in the lease and call a cop then.