To understand what this is all about you have to ask yourself what the internet is.
What it is is a concatenation of a bunch of privately owned network that interoperate because they all agree to use the TCP/IP protocol suite. The us government owns their but of it, that it the parts they buy a connection for, you own your network, I own mine. It's all privatley owned. There is no "public internet" nor is it government controlled... EXCEPT for the domain name and ip registration and allocation function which because of tradition and history have been administered under contract by the US government. It's still that was and this is the bit the chafes other countries.
Just look at the lack of progress by icann to create new tlds and it's easy to see why this choke point is considered a flaw.
"Friends" of the US (UK, OZ etc) buy in to the "agree with us we own/run it and your big business enjoy their trademark rights on the net that don't have in the real world" so they do.
This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. From the introduction to Part 1:
"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created todays nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. " The Power of Nightmares, Baby It's Cold Outside.
Part 1 - Baby it's Cold Outside | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2 Part 2 - The Phantom Victory | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2 Part 3 - The Shadows in the Cave | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
An NTSC DVD ISO is available to make burning this to DVD easier.
This item is part of the collection: Feature Films
Producer: Adam Curtis Production Company: BBC Audio/Visual: sound, color Keywords: Adam Curtis
Sombody should dig up Jim FLemngs old IPV8 stuff. In this world a working V6 transport us used with extended v4 addressing. That is, stock out of the box Windows and BSD/Linux systems that know about V6 address can have V8 addresses plugged into them and they just work.
It divides the address space up into 16 universes, and universe 0 is the legacy internet V4 space.
There's a bit turned on in V8 addresses that is always off in v6 addresses. And unlike V6 there's an addressing plan with V8.
The "I*" people (IETF, ICANN, IANA) poeple pissed Jim off and he'll have nothing to do with them, so he never submitted his stuff to them).
I haven't talked to Flaming in a couple of years (but it was always interesting to do so, he's an old Bell Labs guy from the unix/c era and bought and ran ihnpss which some people may recognize) and I see he's coughed up this furball recently - http://ipv3.com/
In the late 90s and early part of this century there were almost a dozen groups with their own root servers. It is an utterly trivial process to set one up. Computational requirements are absolutely minimal, just make sure you have a decent sized pipe and a robust datacenter.
The us gov originally put them at the most robust datacenters in the world at the time. By that they meant "most likely to be up or to be brought back up quickly if they went down".
There are already "other" root servers in eu and china, fwiw. Setting them up is NOT the issue.
"This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. From the introduction to Part 1:
"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created todays nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. " The Power of Nightmares, Baby It's Cold Outside.
Part 1 - Baby it's Cold Outside | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2 Part 2 - The Phantom Victory | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2 Part 3 - The Shadows in the Cave | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
An NTSC DVD ISO is available to make burning this to DVD easier.
This item is part of the collection: Feature Films"
It's more than brutal to vendors - three chargebacks and you lose your merchant account for 7 years. And you can't get another one because you're blackballed that is, lose your visa account and M/C and Amex won't give you one either.
But there's a 6 month time limit (I think; that # is off the top of my head; 70% confidence in it)
"You would be wanting the Postfix source code, then. I've learned a tremendous amount about how secure, well designed software can be constructed. Wietse is a very smart guy, and his code is some of the tightest code I've seen. Go through it, and you'll be a better software developer for it. "
Never mind the cert advisories against postfix.
You pick your priorities. Say what you will people do manage to find djb's tools useful and they're flawless in terms of security. Claim the prize and then we'll talk...
"I have to say I am sad to see so many negative reactions to djb and his software. "
I don't get it either. When I think of the history and my experiences with say, BIND and Sendmail I just shudder. I installed djbdns and qmail and while I'll admit it takes a but of time to get used to the way djb does things, ever since they've been installed they run so well it's just not funny. I never had to patch anything and it seems to work for tens of thousands or messages for various mailing lists a day
I've had minor conversations with djb ever since he was a grad student and he's always been polite. I've never asked him a stupid question though.
The security record is impressive and unique. For all the people who bitch and complain I say "lemme see your popular internet daemon code you wrote and its security record".
Look in the mirror, then ask yourself "is there a chance I'm being an unaccomplished whiney wanker?"
"> What's your point here? Intel didn't invent the math coprocessor; they had third-party coprocessors back in the 286 days IIRC. Intel later shut them down by making floating-point coprocessors standard on their CPUs.
Today the average wrist watch has more computing power than the 1970's super computers."
1) There was an 8087 math coprocesser (really a floating point chip) to augment the 8086. The 286 and 396 versions came later. There was also an 8090 I/O controller that was really nice but very few people used it. Embedded CPU's in the peripherals did away with them
2) 70's super computers were just lots of CPUs and lots of the highest speed SCSI channels you could stuff in a box. Opening up a Convex for example, was like seeing the last act of the Wizard of Oz. Just a couple of Multibud card cages. A dual quad core system with say 3 three channel SCSI-320 RAID controllers is a pretty close approximation.
"Still, if he is using the name as his business name when selling those ads, he may have a point. But only if the original poster also puts ads on his site."
Um... no.
A trademark is protection under the law to prvent consumer fraud. It's so consumers can identify the source of the goods or service.
"a website with a bunch of ads, only" is not goods or service. And given there's 16 jillion of the on the web the consumer of same is already confused. Saying "my dogbreath.com uniquly identifies me as the source of my service" will just get you laughed at in court.
Not that it'll get to there, it'll go to a UDRP if it goes anywhere and those guys hate this kind of shit. Don't sweat it. Just ignore the asshole. It doesn't sound like he's gonna cough up the $1500 to file a UDRP complaint.
First, learn what the law says. A trademark gives you an exclusive right to use a mark in a defined geopgraphical area in a specific class of goods or service. You don't turn on your delta faucet and expect to hear airline shcedules.
If he/she is doing business under that name and you are too in the same class or service then he/she may have a point and you should wait till he files a $1500 UDRP against you (which you can simply say "ok, it's yours, here"). Otherwise, ignore it.
If you two aren't doing business in the same class of goods or service then just ignore him.
A trademark is to protect the consumer so they can identify the source of a service or goods.
You can read a lot of UDRP decisions online. While not a court of law they're meant to be a quick and cheap alternative to a court case and if you're in the com/net/org/most other tlds you're bound by them.
Don't offer your domain for sale is considered "bad faith".
Consult a lawyer, who'll pretty much tell you the same thing (if they understand trademarks and domains which many don't)
"Storm will force the US government to take over ICANN"
Icann was created out of thin air and staffed by the US Government. Staffed with poeple who knew absolutely nothing about the DNS. That was supposed to be a feature, not a bug. Of course it didn't turn out that way.
The US Government retains, as it always has, oversight over icann. Not that that does much good mind you.
"I've been the target of not only marketing garbage "
Me too. I used to use silly names like "the masonic order of the mango" for names like mango.net way back when. That name/address existed only in whois. Almost immediatley I got marketing snail mail spam from IBM, HP, Cisco and the likes. This was about a decade ago.
"Just what kind of further study to they need to do to figure out the privacy concerns?"
They get paid to study and can't be judged right or wrong. They love to study things. To death. Not that it does any damn good.
Remember when they took $50K for ".biz" and the 50K was for "studying the proposal" by their legal staff to which they said "ok your plan looks sound" then almost instantly a judge said it was an illegal lottery and shut it down?
Spam is the least of your worries. I know women who were stalked from their info in whois back in the old days when people were honest and put real information there.
"I regularly watch FatWallet for deals and occasionally run across a refurb high quality 5.1 receiver for ~$100 "
I regularly troll thrift shops and picked up a 4 channel Sanyo amp from the 70s or 80s for $35. To my great shock and amazement it decodes 4 channels from current DVDs just fine. I'm an audio idiot and have no idea what to do about a sub though. And it's not like some slashdotted article is gonna help.
"It's not weird at all. The reason no has "realised" it yet is because the number of people who actually want to kill hundreds in an airplane, or an airport or anywhere else, is diminishingly small."
And moreso, belong to an organization the Americans invented.
It'll take you three hours but I very strongly suggest you watch this BBC documentary on archive.org that points out Al Queda does'nt even exist until it was made up by the Americans:
When I worked in the computer graphics industry I used to get comped passes to all the big graphics shows - siggraph, ncga etc. One year they didn't arrive in time so I called up and asked how i get a press pass. They said "bring a letter from your editor".
Now, this was at a time when very few people had laser printers.
So I printed up a letter on "Thompson/Hunter Communications" lettterhead explaining I was a reporter for "bitter reality" magazine.
They took it, hook, line and sinker.
"Bitter reality? I've never seen that"
"It's a Canadian magazine, notice the Toronto address"
"ah yeah, right"
"So is this the weirdest magazine you have here today".
"no. cruise line cuisine is".
I wanna know which of you pricks pulled THAT stunt. I mean come on...
At any rate not only did I get in free, I got access to the press room with free food and drink bit also get $1400 worth of conference preceedings and every book they had without even asking. I had to borrow a hand cart to get them into the trusty Subaru.
Yeah. I love press passes. Hunter was onto a good thing there. And is of course where I got the idea.
This is not an uncommon theme in the US to the point where the practice was ridiculed on stage (and subsequent film) in the 1940's and 50s. Ever seen the movie Harvey?
As for torture in prisons, maybe they're using the Bush administration definition of what is torture and what is not.
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" What has YOUR euro trash country done with it? "
Invent the web, which you used to post your message?
To understand what this is all about you have to ask yourself what the internet is.
What it is is a concatenation of a bunch of privately owned network that interoperate because they all agree to use the TCP/IP protocol suite. The us government owns their but of it, that it the parts they buy a connection for, you own your network, I own mine. It's all privatley owned. There is no "public internet" nor is it government controlled... EXCEPT for the domain name and ip registration and allocation function which because of tradition and history have been administered under contract by the US government. It's still that was and this is the bit the chafes other countries.
Just look at the lack of progress by icann to create new tlds and it's easy to see why this choke point is considered a flaw.
"Friends" of the US (UK, OZ etc) buy in to the "agree with us we own/run it and your big business enjoy their trademark rights on the net that don't have in the real world" so they do.
Other countries have more integrity than this.
If you want to see the similarities between the Islamist and Neocon movements you owe it to yourself to see this: http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. From the introduction to Part 1:
"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created todays nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. " The Power of Nightmares, Baby It's Cold Outside.
Part 1 - Baby it's Cold Outside | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 2 - The Phantom Victory | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 3 - The Shadows in the Cave | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
An NTSC DVD ISO is available to make burning this to DVD easier.
This item is part of the collection: Feature Films
Producer: Adam Curtis
Production Company: BBC
Audio/Visual: sound, color
Keywords: Adam Curtis
Sombody should dig up Jim FLemngs old IPV8 stuff. In this world a working V6 transport us used with extended v4 addressing. That is, stock out of the box Windows and BSD/Linux systems that know about V6 address can have V8 addresses plugged into them and they just work.
It divides the address space up into 16 universes, and universe 0 is the legacy internet V4 space.
There's a bit turned on in V8 addresses that is always off in v6 addresses. And unlike V6 there's an addressing plan with V8.
The "I*" people (IETF, ICANN, IANA) poeple pissed Jim off and he'll have nothing to do with them, so he never submitted his stuff to them).
I haven't talked to Flaming in a couple of years (but it was always interesting to do so, he's an old Bell Labs guy from the unix/c era and bought and ran ihnpss which some people may recognize) and I see he's coughed up this furball recently - http://ipv3.com/
In the late 90s and early part of this century there were almost a dozen groups with their own root servers. It is an utterly trivial process to set one up. Computational requirements are absolutely minimal, just make sure you have a decent sized pipe and a robust datacenter.
The us gov originally put them at the most robust datacenters in the world at the time. By that they meant "most likely to be up or to be brought back up quickly if they went down".
There are already "other" root servers in eu and china, fwiw. Setting them up is NOT the issue.
" Personally ICANN/IANA does a pretty good job at what it does "
And which large corporations trademark interests do YOU represent. In other words: NOT.
In 7 years ICANN has made a handful of truly lame tlds. Remember the creation of ICANN was to create new tlds.
The organization was captured since its creation by old white men. And their lawyers.
Almost anybody could do a better job.
"Iraq...Iran...Pakistan....anyone else we can piss off before congress does anything? "
Yeah: me. I have American clients. Today's Swiss interbank rate is 1.00 USD = 0.928265 CAD.
Which means you take a pocketfull of Canadian change to the bank and they give you enough American monopoly money to buy Montana.
Hmmmm... (type type click click)
1.00 EUR = 1.35995 CAD
Saaaaaay... Any of you Eurotrash need a website?
You might want to have a look at this:
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
"This film explores the origins in the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East, and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. From the introduction to Part 1:
"Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created todays nightmare vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. " The Power of Nightmares, Baby It's Cold Outside.
Part 1 - Baby it's Cold Outside | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 2 - The Phantom Victory | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 3 - The Shadows in the Cave | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
An NTSC DVD ISO is available to make burning this to DVD easier.
This item is part of the collection: Feature Films"
It's more than brutal to vendors - three chargebacks and you lose your merchant account for 7 years. And you can't get another one because you're blackballed that is, lose your visa account and M/C and Amex won't give you one either.
But there's a 6 month time limit (I think; that # is off the top of my head; 70% confidence in it)
"Here's a very competent software engineer who created several highly secure and useful applications "
He's not a software engineer, he's a math professor who write code for fun.
The software engineers are the ones who wrote the other daemons. The ones that have cert advisories against them.
"You would be wanting the Postfix source code, then. I've learned a tremendous amount about how secure, well designed software can be constructed. Wietse is a very smart guy, and his code is some of the tightest code I've seen. Go through it, and you'll be a better software developer for it. "
Never mind the cert advisories against postfix.
You pick your priorities. Say what you will people do manage to find djb's tools useful and they're flawless in terms of security. Claim the prize and then we'll talk...
"I have to say I am sad to see so many negative reactions to djb and his software. "
I don't get it either. When I think of the history and my experiences with say, BIND and Sendmail I just shudder. I installed djbdns and qmail and while I'll admit it takes a but of time to get used to the way djb does things, ever since they've been installed they run so well it's just not funny. I never had to patch anything and it seems to work for tens of thousands or messages for various mailing lists a day
I've had minor conversations with djb ever since he was a grad student and he's always been polite. I've never asked him a stupid question though.
The security record is impressive and unique. For all the people who bitch and complain I say "lemme see your popular internet daemon code you wrote and its security record".
Look in the mirror, then ask yourself "is there a chance I'm being an unaccomplished whiney wanker?"
"> What's your point here? Intel didn't invent the math coprocessor; they had third-party coprocessors back in the 286 days IIRC. Intel later shut them down by making floating-point coprocessors standard on their CPUs.
Today the average wrist watch has more computing power than the 1970's super computers."
1) There was an 8087 math coprocesser (really a floating point chip) to augment the 8086. The 286 and 396 versions came later. There was also an 8090 I/O controller that was really nice but very few people used it. Embedded CPU's in the peripherals did away with them
2) 70's super computers were just lots of CPUs and lots of the highest speed SCSI channels you could stuff in a box. Opening up a Convex for example, was like seeing the last act of the Wizard of Oz. Just a couple of Multibud card cages. A dual quad core system with say 3 three channel SCSI-320 RAID controllers is a pretty close approximation.
" Still, if he is using the name as his business name when selling those ads, he may have a point. But only if the original poster also puts ads on his site."
Um... no.
A trademark is protection under the law to prvent consumer fraud. It's so consumers can identify the source of the goods or service.
"a website with a bunch of ads, only" is not goods or service. And given there's 16 jillion of the on the web the consumer of same is already confused. Saying "my dogbreath.com uniquly identifies me as the source of my service" will just get you laughed at in court.
Not that it'll get to there, it'll go to a UDRP if it goes anywhere and those guys hate this kind of shit. Don't sweat it. Just ignore the asshole. It doesn't sound like he's gonna cough up the $1500 to file a UDRP complaint.
Oy.
First, learn what the law says. A trademark gives you an exclusive right to use a mark in a defined geopgraphical area in a specific class of goods or service. You don't turn on your delta faucet and expect to hear airline shcedules.
If he/she is doing business under that name and you are too in the same class or service then he/she may have a point and you should wait till he files a $1500 UDRP against you (which you can simply say "ok, it's yours, here"). Otherwise, ignore it.
If you two aren't doing business in the same class of goods or service then just ignore him.
A trademark is to protect the consumer so they can identify the source of a service or goods.
You can read a lot of UDRP decisions online. While not a court of law they're meant to be a quick and cheap alternative to a court case and if you're in the com/net/org/most other tlds you're bound by them.
Don't offer your domain for sale is considered "bad faith".
Consult a lawyer, who'll pretty much tell you the same thing (if they understand trademarks and domains which many don't)
"Storm will force the US government to take over ICANN"
Icann was created out of thin air and staffed by the US Government. Staffed with poeple who knew absolutely nothing about the DNS. That was supposed to be a feature, not a bug. Of course it didn't turn out that way.
The US Government retains, as it always has, oversight over icann. Not that that does much good mind you.
I know Peter pretty well. He one of the few sane people in the DNS mess and it's nice to see him replace the string of crazies that came before him.
Not that the chairman can do a whole lot with the pack of sharks that make up the rest of icann mind you.
Peter is a scream in real life, you'd never know he's a lawyer. I'd pay big money to see him and Berryhill on stage debating almost anything.
Now lets see if he can actually herald the creation of some new tlds.
"I've been the target of not only marketing garbage "
Me too. I used to use silly names like "the masonic order of the mango" for names like mango.net way back when. That name/address existed only in whois. Almost immediatley I got marketing snail mail spam from IBM, HP, Cisco and the likes. This was about a decade ago.
Every now and then I get another.
As if.
"Just what kind of further study to they need to do to figure out the privacy concerns?"
They get paid to study and can't be judged right or wrong. They love to study things. To death. Not that it does any damn good.
Remember when they took $50K for ".biz" and the 50K was for "studying the proposal" by their legal staff to which they said "ok your plan looks sound" then almost instantly a judge said it was an illegal lottery and shut it down?
Spam is the least of your worries. I know women who were stalked from their info in whois back in the old days when people were honest and put real information there.
God bless little Robbie Robriguez (and his recipes).
" I regularly watch FatWallet for deals and occasionally run across a refurb high quality 5.1 receiver for ~$100 "
I regularly troll thrift shops and picked up a 4 channel Sanyo amp from the 70s or 80s for $35. To my great shock and amazement it decodes 4 channels from current DVDs just fine. I'm an audio idiot and have no idea what to do about a sub though. And it's not like some slashdotted article is gonna help.
"It's not weird at all. The reason no has "realised" it yet is because the number of people who actually want to kill hundreds in an airplane, or an airport or anywhere else, is diminishingly small."
And moreso, belong to an organization the Americans invented.
It'll take you three hours but I very strongly suggest you watch this BBC documentary on archive.org that points out Al Queda does'nt even exist until it was made up by the Americans:
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
Ah Hunter.
When I worked in the computer graphics industry I used to get comped passes to all the big graphics shows - siggraph, ncga etc. One year they didn't arrive in time so I called up and asked how i get a press pass. They said "bring a letter from your editor".
Now, this was at a time when very few people had laser printers.
So I printed up a letter on "Thompson/Hunter Communications" lettterhead explaining I was a reporter for "bitter reality" magazine.
They took it, hook, line and sinker.
"Bitter reality? I've never seen that"
"It's a Canadian magazine, notice the Toronto address"
"ah yeah, right"
"So is this the weirdest magazine you have here today".
"no. cruise line cuisine is".
I wanna know which of you pricks pulled THAT stunt. I mean come on...
At any rate not only did I get in free, I got access to the press room with free food and drink bit also get $1400 worth of conference preceedings and every book they had without even asking. I had to borrow a hand cart to get them into the trusty Subaru.
Yeah. I love press passes. Hunter was onto a good thing there. And is of course where I got the idea.
This is not an uncommon theme in the US to the point where the practice was ridiculed on stage (and subsequent film) in the 1940's and 50s. Ever seen the movie Harvey?
As for torture in prisons, maybe they're using the Bush administration definition of what is torture and what is not.