Not sure I buy it. Video stores have no problems renting adult movies, nor finding employees. Condoms are sold right in the isle in grocery stores. Walmart already carries R rated movies. Book stores also carry explicit adult content, in magazine and book form. FYE carries NC-17 movies as well as other ratings; NC-17 can show full nudity and soft porn IIRC.
Yet there's no outrage or boycott being called. Honestly, I think that if retailers simply ignored these vocal groups, they'd find that their bottom line is just fine.
If its truly an honest statement, yay for them, who granted them that 0% financing?
I believe it was a local bank.
Who controls it, if the feds want to snoop do they respect your rights beyond the FAQ? Are you a criminal without a chance to prove your innocence the moment accusations arise?
A citizens advisary council, which anyone is free to contact and which holds meetings / elections.
And as to FAQ's, I'll believe it when I see their financial paperwork delivered to my doorstep in a sealed pouch with their seal.
Ya... or being a city department, that information is publicly available if you choose to go looking for it. Believe me when I say that this would not have gotten off the ground if it would have raised taxes further. At any rate, nobody is going to bother mailing such a statement to you. No one here will really care if a non-resident doesn't believe what the city is doing. (Yes, I do actually live in Burlington).
The vast majority of our sbsurdly high taxes is skyrocketing costs to provide public education. Now THERE'S something else I don't want my taxes to go to.
Part of the problem; they shouldn't have to appease walmart to be able to sell their product. Walmart should look to see if it will sell or not, not object on vague notions of morality.
Kind of a non issue isn't it? Do you not spend more in DVDs than you did for the player? Do you stop buying games for your gamecube when you've spent as much as the gamecube?
Nope. It was started using a no-interest loan, and is 100% funded by its subscribers. No tax money was used to start or continue its operation. Perhaps you should have clicked on their FAQ.
Suppose you're downloading a digital representation of music -- an MP3, say -- from the Internet. Now, we all know that an MP3 is just a series of bits, and as long as those bits arrive unmodified the song is going to sound exactly the same. Suppose I were to claim that you needed some super-high-fidelity Ethernet cable in order for the MP3 to sound its best after being downloaded, because otherwise the inter-edge arrival time in the digital signal will be distorted, and this, in turn, would map directly into harmonic distortion in the analog reproduction.
Well your argument here is a bit off, because you're not using the Ethernet cable to PLAY the audio. Now, if we were talking about POTS line used for networking, interfernce suddenly DOES become an important factor. Ethernet cabling is more expensive than RJ45 because besides there being more wires, they need to be twisted to resist interference.
A standard speaker cable is just ONE plain old copper wire, and if you'll remember from your digital systems class, two straight copper wires is an antenna, a twisted pair is not. So, the cheapo audio cables may not be shielded in anyway, meaning they are more prone to interference. That hurts the signal, digital or analog. The more expensive ones will be shielded or twisted.
Also, the gauge of the wire could affect the signal as well, depending on how many amps your receiver is putting out.
If price is a concern, the go for the Walmart $60 special. They correctly note that it will be an improvement over the speakers on your TV.
Hell, my first 5.1 system was all RCA; 4 standard bookshelf speakers, a smaller one for the center, a woofer, and a receiver. Got the whole system (with some cheapo wires) for $500. I was actually suprised how good it did sound, for a starter.
Later, I went from a walmart GE dvd player to a sony one, and that improved the sound even more. Now I'm upgrading components; a sony receiver and a new center speaker (Monitor Radius R225). But you can get a good system for not a lot of money if you look.
Ya, I don't know why people think they are any good. At best they seem average. I've got a Monitor Audio (I know, horrible company name) R225 as a center speaker at home, and it sounds really nice. I'm going to get some R270s for front R&L.. I listened to them in store, and they sounded really good, especially for the price.
Sure, they are PAYING Mandriva. Did you not read the open letter? It sure sounded like they paid for support at least.
Whether MS is looking at this as a big PR stunt, or a chance to rope more people into using their OS, remains to be seen. I'm sure they offered a sweet deal to the Nigerian government, but it might not have been bribery.
I doubt it was bribery. It could have been a deal that not only would MS sell them licenses to cover the PCs shipped at a reduced price, but also that price could keep in effect for a year, or something along those lines.
There's plenty of things MS could have done besides bribery; only on/. will people assume that's the only way that MS could possibly win. (That's not aimed at you, BTW).
Huh? They only have to explain themselves to their citizens. They don't need to explain to Mandriva at all. Why would they? They risk burning a bridge over what is probably already a source spot for Mandriva.
For all you know they have explained it.. all we know is what Madriva said at this point.
Except they've already paid for the Mandriva to come pre-loaded. So Mandriva already put in the winning bid.
Its not hard to win a bid when you're the only bidder..
How can Microsoft undercut something that's already been paid for, apart from giving money per copy of Windows installed?
Perhaps they will charge less and include more support options? Perhaps they'll throw in some licenses for government use?
And when you end up giving money to a government to use something, yes, people do tend to use the word 'bribery' a little.
You don't have any proof that MS gave money for them to ditch Mandriva, do you? Perhaps their offer is better than Mandriva's was, but the government already signed a contract.. so they are paying just to satisfy it.
So, which officals do you think personally received money from MS, and why? Where's your proof? Certainly offering the government a cheaper price or a service package is not bribery, or the simple process of bidding for government contracts would be bribery.
I have known of NO endeavors ever done by big corporations (child of government) or the government itself that has EVER been honest, whether here in North America, or anywhere else.
Check out burlingtontelecom.net. Great service, great price, started as a muncipal service.
Do you know the details of the deal? I don't. I assume they made a more competative bid than Mandriva did.
What is it called when you offer to sell a product at a greatly reduced price, especially when there's another bidder? Is that bribery too? Or is it two companies competing for a bid/
Yeah, but if you just want to start a server, in ssh you do it in 2 seconds.
Like power a server on? Or start a daemon? In Windows you just open your regular Services control panel in the Admin tools, and use it to connect to the remote server.
Plus I have so many scripts that automate stuff. that with out an SSH server its impossible.
Can't really comment without knowing more.
For example I run a script from my PC that it sends commands at 10+ PC's simultaneously so that they all get their software updates. I don't even have to type any logins/passwords because I have transfered the necessary crypto keys to each and every machine. In the same way I gather statistics and info from my networks. Otherwise I 'd have to login with VNC/FreeNX on every machine and do it manually.
In Windows you'd use WSUS, which in 3.0 uses an MMC console as well. You set up groups of computers (say servers) and you can approve updates and force them to install by a certain time. Group policy is used to make the servers have automatic updates on and that they use your update server instead of MS'. Other software can be deployed / updated via group policy as well.
Of course most of us have!!! But most of the Greeks have a parent that comes from there. I don't. Plus is a long way from Athens(6-9 hours with the ferry). But now, I've been to all over Greece.
Ahh, I see. Makes perfect sense. I thought there was a bridge to Crete... or maybe that's something else I'm thinking of. Isn't there a very long (and very sleek) suspension bridge somewhere in Greece?
Yeah, don't worry most of us know that. Although sometimes it creeps me out when I see people chanting/preaching about Jesus Christ etc , in documentaries.
Believe me, I have the same worries too. Socially, things are really backwards here.
Oh, and probably I've seen all your movies?:)
Movies are a favorite pasttime of mine. Any good Greek movies that use English (or at least have subtitles)?
Yes but over an internet link, if you just want to script something or edit a file, GUI is an overkill. Let aside the fact that in servers(Unix/Linux) you mostly don't want to install an X server(for graphics) because apart from the memory overhead there is an extra layer prone to bugs and instability. Stupid thing is that for Oracle you need an X server JUST for the installation and then you can remove it.(I heard Windows server 2008 is going to give the option to not install the graphical part)
I wouldn't script on a server anyway; I'd write it locally first, then deploy it. If i just want to edit a file, there's a multitude of ways to do that; ftp, smb, etc. Again though, if its an important file I'm going to want some kind of editor, like an xml editor, to make sure I don't do something stupid like forget a closing tag. Ideally, I want a specialised editor (its rare I need to go to a windows server to edit a plain text file). Usually you use a Administrative Snapin on your local computer and connect to a remote one. I'm interested to see how well 2k8 works without a shell; I would assume there'll be a Win2k8 server admin pack like there is for 2k3 now.
Just for fun go to the oracle site and take a look at their offerings. I am pretty sure you are going to find services that, take your kids to school, give you advice to score more women and other stuff. They have swallowed so many companies that their products don't make sense and at the very least, their integration is impossible.
Heh...sounds like MS has a leg up. All their Sql stuff integrates very nicely.
This year I visited crete for the first time! Because of a contract with the public sector. Just remember that the region you want to visit is called "Chania" and NOT "Irakleion". The first is for vacation, the latter is just a big city with no touristic value.
Hmm, I would think most Greeks have been to Crete... at least it seems odd that a Greek wouldn't have been there.. to me anyway. I think most Americans at least get to a neighboring state, even those in larger states. I haven't been too that many yet though; driven through seven, lived in three and stayed overnight in a few more. Only the east coast though.
Thanks for the tip, I'll keep that in mind if we ever get a trip together.
Hahahaha, no way!!! That's not what I see in TV!!
Ya, well, please don't judge us by our TV; some of us actually do have brains! In all seriousness, as a nation most of us (not me, I actually started eating right and going to the gym) will die of heart attacks, diabetes, or other lovely fat related diseases. Check out this map from cnn.
Its a shame the highest % simply stops at > 25%. I would like to see at least > 50% on that map.. maybe next year, because I'm sure some states fit that criteria.
Well maybe in Greece they have a strong bias towards Oracle. I don't really know why, but they definitely think Oracle is the solution to all their problems. As long as I don't pay their licenses... I don't really care.
Ya, I thought about this after the post. Certainly here in the US, cost has been a driving factor in going to MS Sql over Oracle, especially given that MS Sql has been including quite a few great features outside of strickly database (Reporting, Ingeration, Analysis Services, etc.). Although I admin I don't know if Oracle offers such services, I assume it does though.
Because I thought you didn't know that SSH in Linux is part of the OpenSSH suite.
In the RH copy I had, it offered a choice. The open one I did try, and it seemed buggy and had problems working with the client from Ssh.com. I tried putty, and I liked ssh.com's client much, MUCH better.
Well ok, but I really think that both of them serve different purposes. But in the case of a graphical remote client, I'd use FreeNX which has crypto and is faster than RDC(which is VNC underneath, I think).
Well they are both for running commands remotely; one is simply text based, the other GUI based. RDC has always performed well for me.. even when I had to use it over a modem, it was very usable. X over a tunneled SSH connection however was not usable at all.
Our Islands are nice, yes. Athens(our capital where I live) is just another city. Not much there really. I know US only from the movies/TV. If it is anything like them, seems nice:)
Yes, my wife and I would love to vacation on Crete. Maybe someday. Athens looks much nicer than cities here.. although I suppose neither of us are appreciating what we see everyday:-) I'm always amazed at the sense of history I get when I see images of other places.. I just don't feel that here.
There is a misconception that Greeks are living in exotic islands with beautiful women as their company. Only in summers we enjoy this luxury(along with the tourists).
Hmm, I suppose that's the idea I had. At least you have beautiful women as company in the summer; here we have 300 pound whales in belly shirts. Bleck.
The server was a recent Redhat, and the desktop was running Mandriva, the current on at the end of 2005 / beginning of 2006. It was around when MSN / yahoo kept changing their protocols.. getting the latest Kopete was a nightmare, among other things. Never could get the server to talk to my printers..
I didn't have to track things by hand, but I had to go searching everywhere for just the right rpm. Even when I got things to install, they usually borked something else on the system.
Hey I never jumped in your conversation. The exact opposite happened. I was just replying to the parent poster.
Opps you're right; I got confused with another thread.
It's impossible to fall for FUD. I always observe and then I make my conclusions. Windows is not even close to being as secure and even saying that seems odd. The only people that say this, are people that are only comfortable with windows. I can't even begin to think how it's possible to say that, since in Windows you leave the security in the hands of a company, where as in Linux the knowledge of the administrator plays an important role. There are numerous times where I could patch, by hand, a piece of software in linux, before even the company(Novell,RedHat) had issue a patch. And all these with out even mentioning SELinux.
This proves you are falling for the FUD. Do you really think some braindead idiot that messed up security settings on a Windows box will admit it? What are you using as your basis? Things like Sql Slammer, where a patch was available at least three MONTHS before the outbreak (at least)? Seriously, Windows security is on par with Linux, its only administerators that screw it up.. just like on Linux.
First of all, what I meant was that most ORACLE installs I ve seen are in Linux. Not generally DB installs. But since you mentioned that, I gather that you haven't been in many mission critical installations now, do you? Maybe I'm wrong though.
Well that certainly changes things doesn't it? Since Oracle began as a Unix application, it doesn't suprise me it still has a strong presence there. I'm not sure what you're getting at by your comment though; MS Sql has been making serious inroads for years, because its much cheaper that Oracle.
To prove my point I have to tell you that since I'm being paid a lot of money as an Oracle DBA, I should have an agenda. The thing is that Oracle is just a piece of crap security-wise. And I've been proved right many many times. But unfortunately feature-wise, is the best bar none. Don't let me get started on the company's support. With Postgres I can solve my problems in a matter of minutes just by wandering through the fora.
I'll admit I've never had to admin Oracle, but I have worked many places that utilized it. In places where it was used at all, it was at most half of the database servers, the other would be MS Sql.
And in case you think I 'm Anti-MS, you are wrong. Every OS has its place. To say that Windows is as secure as Unix/Linux is wrong, the same way it's wrong to say that Linux can replace Windows in the client-side.
Again, you're buying into other people's FUD. Do some serious research.
You are kidding right? Tell me you are kidding. You are talking about Putty? Is the same man who invented ssh? Which ssh in Linux, by the way, is included in the OpenSSH suite? Which is a part of OpenBSD? Tell me you are joking please!! You don't seem too knowledgeable about Linux, I 've got to tell you that.
No, not putty. There's another SSH (not openssh, either) client, written by the man that came up with the protocol which is available on linux. At least it was with RedHat. It was only free for non-commercial use though. But it was there, and I used it quite often (and yes, I'm much happier administering with RDC than I ever was using SSH). Don't know why you'd say I don't know much about Linux, considering I administered it quite a bit, and used it as a desktop for years.. even fixing some bugs in programs I was trying to install.
All the other things you mention about my gibberish may very well be true, since English is not my native language and sometimes I write English like I am writing Greek(which is my native language).
Honestly, except for your first few posts, I haven't had any trouble understanding your English. I'm glad I did give the benefit of the doubt though on MY first post, which is why I posted a reply to you at all; I really did want to know what you were trying to say.
Regardless of this discussion, I think you're making out better: Greece is MUCH more beautiful country than the US; I wish we tried as hard to keep things as nice. Of course, I've only seen pictures..
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Not sure I buy it. Video stores have no problems renting adult movies, nor finding employees. Condoms are sold right in the isle in grocery stores. Walmart already carries R rated movies. Book stores also carry explicit adult content, in magazine and book form. FYE carries NC-17 movies as well as other ratings; NC-17 can show full nudity and soft porn IIRC.
Yet there's no outrage or boycott being called. Honestly, I think that if retailers simply ignored these vocal groups, they'd find that their bottom line is just fine.
If its truly an honest statement, yay for them, who granted them that 0% financing?
I believe it was a local bank.
Who controls it, if the feds want to snoop do they respect your rights beyond the FAQ? Are you a criminal without a chance to prove your innocence the moment accusations arise?
A citizens advisary council, which anyone is free to contact and which holds meetings / elections.
And as to FAQ's, I'll believe it when I see their financial paperwork delivered to my doorstep in a sealed pouch with their seal.
Ya... or being a city department, that information is publicly available if you choose to go looking for it. Believe me when I say that this would not have gotten off the ground if it would have raised taxes further. At any rate, nobody is going to bother mailing such a statement to you. No one here will really care if a non-resident doesn't believe what the city is doing. (Yes, I do actually live in Burlington).
The vast majority of our sbsurdly high taxes is skyrocketing costs to provide public education. Now THERE'S something else I don't want my taxes to go to.
Part of the problem; they shouldn't have to appease walmart to be able to sell their product. Walmart should look to see if it will sell or not, not object on vague notions of morality.
Kind of a non issue isn't it? Do you not spend more in DVDs than you did for the player? Do you stop buying games for your gamecube when you've spent as much as the gamecube?
That's just a silly question.
Wow.. again with the price lies here. You can get office for $130, and windows xp for $78 ($93.50 for Vista). So you're $670 is now down to $208.
Its debatable whether or not the "other" software is even something needed; certainly the OP was only talking about office anyway.
Nope. It was started using a no-interest loan, and is 100% funded by its subscribers. No tax money was used to start or continue its operation. Perhaps you should have clicked on their FAQ.
Why should they have to do this to appease anyone to begin with?
Suppose you're downloading a digital representation of music -- an MP3, say -- from the Internet. Now, we all know that an MP3 is just a series of bits, and as long as those bits arrive unmodified the song is going to sound exactly the same. Suppose I were to claim that you needed some super-high-fidelity Ethernet cable in order for the MP3 to sound its best after being downloaded, because otherwise the inter-edge arrival time in the digital signal will be distorted, and this, in turn, would map directly into harmonic distortion in the analog reproduction.
Well your argument here is a bit off, because you're not using the Ethernet cable to PLAY the audio. Now, if we were talking about POTS line used for networking, interfernce suddenly DOES become an important factor. Ethernet cabling is more expensive than RJ45 because besides there being more wires, they need to be twisted to resist interference.
A standard speaker cable is just ONE plain old copper wire, and if you'll remember from your digital systems class, two straight copper wires is an antenna, a twisted pair is not. So, the cheapo audio cables may not be shielded in anyway, meaning they are more prone to interference. That hurts the signal, digital or analog. The more expensive ones will be shielded or twisted.
Also, the gauge of the wire could affect the signal as well, depending on how many amps your receiver is putting out.
If price is a concern, the go for the Walmart $60 special. They correctly note that it will be an improvement over the speakers on your TV.
Hell, my first 5.1 system was all RCA; 4 standard bookshelf speakers, a smaller one for the center, a woofer, and a receiver. Got the whole system (with some cheapo wires) for $500. I was actually suprised how good it did sound, for a starter.
Later, I went from a walmart GE dvd player to a sony one, and that improved the sound even more. Now I'm upgrading components; a sony receiver and a new center speaker (Monitor Radius R225). But you can get a good system for not a lot of money if you look.
Ya, I don't know why people think they are any good. At best they seem average. I've got a Monitor Audio (I know, horrible company name) R225 as a center speaker at home, and it sounds really nice. I'm going to get some R270s for front R&L.. I listened to them in store, and they sounded really good, especially for the price.
Where the hell do you get RedHat involved in all this?
Sure, they are PAYING Mandriva. Did you not read the open letter? It sure sounded like they paid for support at least.
/. will people assume that's the only way that MS could possibly win. (That's not aimed at you, BTW).
Whether MS is looking at this as a big PR stunt, or a chance to rope more people into using their OS, remains to be seen. I'm sure they offered a sweet deal to the Nigerian government, but it might not have been bribery.
I doubt it was bribery. It could have been a deal that not only would MS sell them licenses to cover the PCs shipped at a reduced price, but also that price could keep in effect for a year, or something along those lines.
There's plenty of things MS could have done besides bribery; only on
I didn't say they couldn't explain it to Mandriva, I said they may be choosing not to.
Huh? They only have to explain themselves to their citizens. They don't need to explain to Mandriva at all. Why would they? They risk burning a bridge over what is probably already a source spot for Mandriva.
For all you know they have explained it.. all we know is what Madriva said at this point.
Except they've already paid for the Mandriva to come pre-loaded. So Mandriva already put in the winning bid.
Its not hard to win a bid when you're the only bidder..
How can Microsoft undercut something that's already been paid for, apart from giving money per copy of Windows installed?
Perhaps they will charge less and include more support options? Perhaps they'll throw in some licenses for government use?
And when you end up giving money to a government to use something, yes, people do tend to use the word 'bribery' a little.
You don't have any proof that MS gave money for them to ditch Mandriva, do you? Perhaps their offer is better than Mandriva's was, but the government already signed a contract.. so they are paying just to satisfy it.
So, which officals do you think personally received money from MS, and why? Where's your proof? Certainly offering the government a cheaper price or a service package is not bribery, or the simple process of bidding for government contracts would be bribery.
I have known of NO endeavors ever done by big corporations (child of government) or the government itself that has EVER been honest, whether here in North America, or anywhere else.
Check out burlingtontelecom.net. Great service, great price, started as a muncipal service.
Do you know the details of the deal? I don't. I assume they made a more competative bid than Mandriva did.
What is it called when you offer to sell a product at a greatly reduced price, especially when there's another bidder? Is that bribery too? Or is it two companies competing for a bid/
Yeah, but if you just want to start a server, in ssh you do it in 2 seconds.
:)
Like power a server on? Or start a daemon? In Windows you just open your regular Services control panel in the Admin tools, and use it to connect to the remote server.
Plus I have so many scripts that automate stuff. that with out an SSH server its impossible.
Can't really comment without knowing more.
For example I run a script from my PC that it sends commands at 10+ PC's simultaneously so that they all get their software updates. I don't even have to type any logins/passwords because I have transfered the necessary crypto keys to each and every machine. In the same way I gather statistics and info from my networks. Otherwise I 'd have to login with VNC/FreeNX on every machine and do it manually.
In Windows you'd use WSUS, which in 3.0 uses an MMC console as well. You set up groups of computers (say servers) and you can approve updates and force them to install by a certain time. Group policy is used to make the servers have automatic updates on and that they use your update server instead of MS'. Other software can be deployed / updated via group policy as well.
Of course most of us have!!! But most of the Greeks have a parent that comes from there. I don't. Plus is a long way from Athens(6-9 hours with the ferry). But now, I've been to all over Greece.
Ahh, I see. Makes perfect sense. I thought there was a bridge to Crete... or maybe that's something else I'm thinking of. Isn't there a very long (and very sleek) suspension bridge somewhere in Greece?
Yeah, don't worry most of us know that. Although sometimes it creeps me out when I see people chanting/preaching about Jesus Christ etc , in documentaries.
Believe me, I have the same worries too. Socially, things are really backwards here.
Oh, and probably I've seen all your movies?
Movies are a favorite pasttime of mine. Any good Greek movies that use English (or at least have subtitles)?
I see. So you only have rights when it makes things convient? Sorry, I don't buy your explaination.
Yes but over an internet link, if you just want to script something or edit a file, GUI is an overkill. Let aside the fact that in servers(Unix/Linux) you mostly don't want to install an X server(for graphics) because apart from the memory overhead there is an extra layer prone to bugs and instability. Stupid thing is that for Oracle you need an X server JUST for the installation and then you can remove it.(I heard Windows server 2008 is going to give the option to not install the graphical part)
I wouldn't script on a server anyway; I'd write it locally first, then deploy it. If i just want to edit a file, there's a multitude of ways to do that; ftp, smb, etc. Again though, if its an important file I'm going to want some kind of editor, like an xml editor, to make sure I don't do something stupid like forget a closing tag. Ideally, I want a specialised editor (its rare I need to go to a windows server to edit a plain text file). Usually you use a Administrative Snapin on your local computer and connect to a remote one. I'm interested to see how well 2k8 works without a shell; I would assume there'll be a Win2k8 server admin pack like there is for 2k3 now.
Just for fun go to the oracle site and take a look at their offerings. I am pretty sure you are going to find services that, take your kids to school, give you advice to score more women and other stuff. They have swallowed so many companies that their products don't make sense and at the very least, their integration is impossible.
Heh...sounds like MS has a leg up. All their Sql stuff integrates very nicely.
This year I visited crete for the first time! Because of a contract with the public sector. Just remember that the region you want to visit is called "Chania" and NOT "Irakleion". The first is for vacation, the latter is just a big city with no touristic value.
Hmm, I would think most Greeks have been to Crete... at least it seems odd that a Greek wouldn't have been there.. to me anyway. I think most Americans at least get to a neighboring state, even those in larger states. I haven't been too that many yet though; driven through seven, lived in three and stayed overnight in a few more. Only the east coast though.
Thanks for the tip, I'll keep that in mind if we ever get a trip together.
Hahahaha, no way!!! That's not what I see in TV!!
Ya, well, please don't judge us by our TV; some of us actually do have brains! In all seriousness, as a nation most of us (not me, I actually started eating right and going to the gym) will die of heart attacks, diabetes, or other lovely fat related diseases. Check out this map from cnn.
Its a shame the highest % simply stops at > 25%. I would like to see at least > 50% on that map.. maybe next year, because I'm sure some states fit that criteria.
Well maybe in Greece they have a strong bias towards Oracle. I don't really know why, but they definitely think Oracle is the solution to all their problems. As long as I don't pay their licenses... I don't really care.
:)
:-) I'm always amazed at the sense of history I get when I see images of other places.. I just don't feel that here.
Ya, I thought about this after the post. Certainly here in the US, cost has been a driving factor in going to MS Sql over Oracle, especially given that MS Sql has been including quite a few great features outside of strickly database (Reporting, Ingeration, Analysis Services, etc.). Although I admin I don't know if Oracle offers such services, I assume it does though.
Because I thought you didn't know that SSH in Linux is part of the OpenSSH suite.
In the RH copy I had, it offered a choice. The open one I did try, and it seemed buggy and had problems working with the client from Ssh.com. I tried putty, and I liked ssh.com's client much, MUCH better.
Well ok, but I really think that both of them serve different purposes. But in the case of a graphical remote client, I'd use FreeNX which has crypto and is faster than RDC(which is VNC underneath, I think).
Well they are both for running commands remotely; one is simply text based, the other GUI based. RDC has always performed well for me.. even when I had to use it over a modem, it was very usable. X over a tunneled SSH connection however was not usable at all.
Our Islands are nice, yes. Athens(our capital where I live) is just another city. Not much there really. I know US only from the movies/TV. If it is anything like them, seems nice
Yes, my wife and I would love to vacation on Crete. Maybe someday. Athens looks much nicer than cities here.. although I suppose neither of us are appreciating what we see everyday
There is a misconception that Greeks are living in exotic islands with beautiful women as their company. Only in summers we enjoy this luxury(along with the tourists).
Hmm, I suppose that's the idea I had. At least you have beautiful women as company in the summer; here we have 300 pound whales in belly shirts. Bleck.
No, they don't need anything regulated for them. They need to be cut off completely, and left to starve in the street.
The server was a recent Redhat, and the desktop was running Mandriva, the current on at the end of 2005 / beginning of 2006. It was around when MSN / yahoo kept changing their protocols.. getting the latest Kopete was a nightmare, among other things. Never could get the server to talk to my printers..
I didn't have to track things by hand, but I had to go searching everywhere for just the right rpm. Even when I got things to install, they usually borked something else on the system.
Hey everyone, that troll Twitter is back! I was wondering when he'd turn up again.
Hey I never jumped in your conversation. The exact opposite happened. I was just replying to the parent poster.
Opps you're right; I got confused with another thread.
It's impossible to fall for FUD. I always observe and then I make my conclusions. Windows is not even close to being as secure and even saying that seems odd. The only people that say this, are people that are only comfortable with windows. I can't even begin to think how it's possible to say that, since in Windows you leave the security in the hands of a company, where as in Linux the knowledge of the administrator plays an important role. There are numerous times where I could patch, by hand, a piece of software in linux, before even the company(Novell,RedHat) had issue a patch. And all these with out even mentioning SELinux.
This proves you are falling for the FUD. Do you really think some braindead idiot that messed up security settings on a Windows box will admit it? What are you using as your basis? Things like Sql Slammer, where a patch was available at least three MONTHS before the outbreak (at least)? Seriously, Windows security is on par with Linux, its only administerators that screw it up.. just like on Linux.
First of all, what I meant was that most ORACLE installs I ve seen are in Linux. Not generally DB installs. But since you mentioned that, I gather that you haven't been in many mission critical installations now, do you? Maybe I'm wrong though.
Well that certainly changes things doesn't it? Since Oracle began as a Unix application, it doesn't suprise me it still has a strong presence there. I'm not sure what you're getting at by your comment though; MS Sql has been making serious inroads for years, because its much cheaper that Oracle.
To prove my point I have to tell you that since I'm being paid a lot of money as an Oracle DBA, I should have an agenda. The thing is that Oracle is just a piece of crap security-wise. And I've been proved right many many times. But unfortunately feature-wise, is the best bar none. Don't let me get started on the company's support. With Postgres I can solve my problems in a matter of minutes just by wandering through the fora.
I'll admit I've never had to admin Oracle, but I have worked many places that utilized it. In places where it was used at all, it was at most half of the database servers, the other would be MS Sql.
And in case you think I 'm Anti-MS, you are wrong. Every OS has its place. To say that Windows is as secure as Unix/Linux is wrong, the same way it's wrong to say that Linux can replace Windows in the client-side.
Again, you're buying into other people's FUD. Do some serious research.
You are kidding right? Tell me you are kidding. You are talking about Putty? Is the same man who invented ssh? Which ssh in Linux, by the way, is included in the OpenSSH suite? Which is a part of OpenBSD? Tell me you are joking please!! You don't seem too knowledgeable about Linux, I 've got to tell you that.
No, not putty. There's another SSH (not openssh, either) client, written by the man that came up with the protocol which is available on linux. At least it was with RedHat. It was only free for non-commercial use though. But it was there, and I used it quite often (and yes, I'm much happier administering with RDC than I ever was using SSH). Don't know why you'd say I don't know much about Linux, considering I administered it quite a bit, and used it as a desktop for years.. even fixing some bugs in programs I was trying to install.
All the other things you mention about my gibberish may very well be true, since English is not my native language and sometimes I write English like I am writing Greek(which is my native language).
Honestly, except for your first few posts, I haven't had any trouble understanding your English. I'm glad I did give the benefit of the doubt though on MY first post, which is why I posted a reply to you at all; I really did want to know what you were trying to say.
Regardless of this discussion, I think you're making out better: Greece is MUCH more beautiful country than the US; I wish we tried as hard to keep things as nice. Of course, I've only seen pictures..