Yup. I have a KVM that does, and only one USB mouse, and no USB keyboards. I don't see the need to throw away a keyboard that I like when its still working just so the plug can change. I also don't have that many USB ports to begin with (4 total).
Your adapters only work if the hardware you are attempting to adapt support it. It doesn't work with a standard PS2 mouse, only wants that say PS2 / USB. Same for keyboards.
Why should I have to buy all this other hardware because you think there's a lack of room on the back of PCs?
Beer is ALOT of carbs. In a typical american diet, you get WAY too many to being with, and carbs don't make you feel full. So yes, load up on carbs and little protien, you will gain weight.
Wrong advise, bread is the worse thing to use to replace anything. Too many carbs. You need protein to make you feel full. Tell your friends to reduce portions and have a snack of say an apple + 1 tbsp. of peanut butter. Oh and you're right, exercise.
Its not oversimplfying at all. I worked with a trainer to lose 30lbs in 8 weeks. She told me to burn more calories the only things i can do are reduce consumption and increase expendature. In other words, take in less calories and use more.
Your metabolism plays a part as well; she had me add two snacks a day between meals, and lessen the calories in my normal meals.
Here's what she said when I asked "what if i still feel hunger." She said "you're on a diet, you're going to feel a little hunger. Deal with it, but don't cave into it."
Um, what is lame about it? If you're around fat friends, they are probably eating lots of pizza, beer, nachos and in large quantities. They are also likely sitting on the couch. Hang around them, and you'll likely eat the same things, and have the same inactivity. Thus you will gain weight.
Its the same with fat families; its not a gene that's causing them to be fat, its the family's crappy eating and exercise habits. One only need watch things like "We're killing the kids" or Biggest loser family edition to see this.
Don't blame school meals when the kids are learning bad eating habits at home. No one is forcing them to buy seconds, snacks and soda. They learn to eat like that at home.
Given that we have no macs here at all, your statement is way off. Our entire graphics department has dual monitors. At my previous employer, all production people did, which was software engineers, developers and designers.
As for the "common man" the person that owns the gym I goes to knew about multiple monitors. He actually has three; one for him, one for us to display messages as we sign in, and another which is next to his monitor so that he can see what we are seeing.
You still never addressed my comments; why is it so easy to do on Windows, yet so challenging on Linux? Surely if Windows can do it easily, the "best OS in the w0rld!!!1111!" can do it too?
Oh, and thanks for re-enforcing my point about the lame attitude of the Linux community.
Hmm, not likely thousands. When you have the blinders of TV on, even a small crowd looks big. So if a small group of Irish chanted death to america in the streets, you'd think its a direct threat to us and that all other Irish should stage protests against them? Ahh racism.
Gaim/Pidgin - Alt-F4 or hitting X doesn't close the app. Have more than 1 window open for Word or any office app? Guess what, closing a window won't close your program.
Haven't used Gaim on Windows, why bother? Nobody expects an application to close then there are multiple windows of that application open. Firefox and Internet explorer do the same thing. Its pretty standard. But when you close the last window on an application, you don't expect the application to still be running.
And Alt-F4 is intuitive? (Hint: it's a learned Windows habit.)
Hint, Cmd-Q is not the same as closing a single window for a running application. Alt-F4 just closes a single window; if its the LAST window open for a running application, the application terminates. Cmd-q (according to the OP) will force the application to terminate.
The large number of posts of people complaining about incompatibilities indicate it's the status quo. (+16M entries there)
Right, because the number of google hits is an accurate metric of any problem.
Considering there's 100s of millions of PCs out there, and top games sell around 1-2 million copies (there are some that hit 10M), I'd say most people could care less about games. And you're correct, there's probably more games for PC than Mac, in no small part thanks to MS's efforts to ensure it stays that way (monopoly, anyone?). Let's wait another year or so and see where this goes.
Again, brush up on your statistics. A significate portion of those 100s of millions of PCs are owned by businesses, and thus are not going to be used for gaming. To include those PCs skews your "analysis." Also, not everyone that plays games on the computer buys the big hits. A top selling game is not purchased by every PC gamer. Doom is unlikely to have a large audience among RTSers or people that prefer strategy games. Nothing will change as far as MACs go next year with regards to gamers; Linux has more users than MACs, yet very few make Linux versions of games. A good example is DOOM 3; it was ported to Linux before it was ported to a MAC.
I used to do all those on a PC as well. I have several hundred dollars worth of software I no longer use, because even the default bundled Mac software handily beat them in ease of use and efficiency of time spent completing a project. Additionally, I've not had to much with my Mac's OS, unlike my Windows box which requires some sort of maintenance at least every 3 months to keep it running smoothly.
I'd argue MS is a victim of its own success here. Can you imagine the antitrust suits filed if they included a full featured image editor or movie editor? As far as your maintenance comment goes, please step out of 1998. WinXP requires nothing to keep it going just fine. I've had it running on my laptop for six years now without the need to reformat or do anything special.
Well cool, that's another plus in the Wii column. I'll probably buy one soon. The only negatives I've seen posted are regarding the things I mentioned as being non-issues to me at this point.
FWIW, to play RE 1 on the Wii requires you buy a Gamecube memory card and controller (for around $30, if you get a new generic controller and used memory card) as RE1 is a gamecube game. If you liked the olden games (NES, SNES, etc.) you'll be pleased to know that the Wii can play natively any gamecube game, and can play many games from the NES to the N64 via the virtual console. There's even some sega and turbografx games on the VC as well.
On video and photo editing, I humbly suggest you try out, and I mean really try out, the offerings on a Mac. If you still feel that way after that, maybe you just like the paradigms in the windows world. I, and everyone I know that's tried it, find those apps much easier to utilize on a Mac. As for choices, there's enough and perhaps more real choices in the Mac world. You don't get 20 versions of Paint with slightly different toolbars, as an example. You'll get i
Considering that we didn't really know much about what the surface of Mars as actually like, I don't think you can say that NASA purposefully mislead anyone. Perhaps they beleived conditions were much harsher than they turned out to be.
I said you had to unlearn Windows habits, some of them bad. For one thing, the inconsistency in what happens when you close a window depends on what other windows are running. Sometimes windows close without closing their program, and then you have to resort to Task Manager or some other tool to kill a process.
Where do you get this load of crap? Windows closes a programs when you close their window. The exception is when you have a program running in the notification area. But the behavior has been consistent for all software I've run (winamp, outlook, trillian, MSN messenger, aim, etc etc).
You can easily get a 2-button mouse, or, if you're really adventuresome, a 3 button mouse. This ability has existed for years and years.
Great, so now I can spend another $50 on an apple approved mouse, instead of the MAC just coming with a three button wheel mouse.
As for closing a program, try Cmd-Q. Ooo, that was hard.
Oh stupid me for not sitting down in front of a MAC and know suddenly knowing that Cmd-Q actually closes the application and not just hides the window. Of course, so intiutive!
Regarding hardware, I never said you specifically had hardware issues, but many I know did, and Vista especially is having hardware driver issues.
You mean that a new OS with new driver APIs require new drivers for Vista? Perhaps crappy hardware vendors have been having problems, but everything just worked when I upgraded from XP to Vista. Many of those issues are identified if you run the upgrade advisor as well, so you know ahead of time if there will be any potential issues. But of course since you know someone that has had problems, that must be the status quo.
Wow, I can't wait to... er, what, play? If the only thing your PC is good for is games, then you and I have entirely different wants/needs/desires for our hardware. I could care less about "yet another FPS POS with slightly better graphics than version 231" known as Halo 3, and I had to look up what version 4 of RE was. I prefer strategy games along the Civilization line and admit I enjoyed Quake/Half Life in network deathmatches. The newer versions I tried didn't offer much over the old ones in the way of game play.
You may not care for them, but people do. Saying MAC is a solution for most people is absurd when most of the top games aren't even playable there. With Linux you have a shot at playing them via Wine, but no chance in hell on a MAC. Its really too bad you didn't know what Resident Evil was; its not just a shooter, there's quite a bit of puzzle solving and a great plot. There's also more strategy games for the PC than MAC.
At any rate, I don't only play games on my PC, and lately I haven't at all. But its nice knowing that I can. I also manage my finances and home business, develop software, get pictures and video off my camera, listen to music, get email, etc. I can do all those very easily on a PC. Saying I should unlearn "bad" habits so that I can cut some of my uses out and use a MAC is stupid.
The Wii has interested me somewhat precisely because it is a departure from the ever onward grind of same game with better graphics routine that's been pretty much the rule since the first Kung-Fu fighting games and Wolfenstein 3D. Throw in networked play, and you have today's offerings.
I actually agree here, I've been having a lot of fun with my Wii. Currently RE1 is my game of choice, and can't be considered a shooter at all.
Now for things I do, try photo and movie import, organizing, editing, and viewing for starters. You can't beat the software that's available on a Mac, even the bundled applications are pretty darn decent. The Mac also allows me to edit and publish web pages easily and has the full complement of standard tools I need, want, and expect to integrate with outside systems (all non-MS btw).
Video and photo editing software on the PC is just as good as on the MAC. There's also more choices. Thi
You forget that copying from the CD to the harddrive counts as making a copy. The license agreement grants you the right to do this, if you install Windows. It doesn't permit you to copy just the bits you want though, which would violate copyright laws. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Enterprise does have features that Business doesn't, such as bitlocker. Those features are likely more useful to enterprise, at least that's MS' line.
You won't see the starter edition, as that's only sold to third world countries... although I think I can install that from my MSDN subscription.
Also, the only two disc versions are 32 or 64 bit; the version you get depends soley on the license key you enter (although Enterprise may be a bit different, since its through VL only).
I've tried Mac, and found the interface to be infuratingly frustrating. I hated only having one mouse button, I hated having to close programs that had no windows associated with them. Note that I didn't suffer those same problems when I was on Linux. Linux had other issues I didn't care for, and contrary to what you seem to think, I've never had hardware that didn't work with Windows.
But you're right, I'll try again. I can't wait to play RE4 and Halo 3 on the MAC! Oh wait..
I ran Linux as a desktop for five years, and I've switched back. Honestly, who cares if you know someone that switched from Solaris to Linux, or OSX to Linux? That's not relevent to people switching from Windows to Linux at all.
I also find it interesting you need to qualify "away from Windows for a year." That implies that others switched back before the one year mark.
A state is only free as its least free man. Likewise, a state is only as secure as its most vunerable citizen.
Also, there are other things not explicitly spelled out in the Constitution that are not there because the framers took for granted that it was obvious. Go read their thoughts for yourself.
Utter bullshit. Its common at my work place, and its starting to become pretty mainstream. I had dual monitors when I was doing web development (and I wish I had them now).
Nice argument though; someone brings up something that was much harder to do in Linux, and you're response is "so what who does that???" I guess that's why Linux will never get anywhere on the desktop. OSS people have a really shitty attitude.. just read the article. Linus didn't like the idea of a pluggable scheduler, which to me sounds pretty innovative and wouldn't hurt to include. But I guess being able to customize a scheduler for the task at hand really wouldn't be that useful. Yet another area where Linux could shine, but don't.
If you don't want to be lumped into illogical groups of people perhaps you should reconsider the logic of your faith. There are many, many rules which don't have any logical reason today.
Home Basic is for those that want internet, WP, budgeting. Home Premium is for those that want "rich media," which would be your music, pictures, videos and computer games category.
Business is for basic business needs, including developers (although developers can use any version). Enterprise is for very large (enterprise) customers, which WILL use volume licensing, and includes more advanced features.
So here we have four editions, just like your propose. The only difference is that there is also Ultimate, for people like me that want to do videos, pictures, music but also want the business features for my home business.
The only other edition isn't really relevent unless you're in Asia, because Vista Starter is only sold there. I think its a less featurefull version of Home Basic.
In other words, their current system is pretty close to what you suggest.
Hardly anyone runs Windows because they like Windows, they run Windows because they need to be able to use some bit of Win32 (or, in some cases, Win16) software, and trust Windows to do this more than WINE.
Sorry, that's just horseshit. People actually do like running Windows.
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Does anyone use PS/2 keyboards / mice anymore?
Yup. I have a KVM that does, and only one USB mouse, and no USB keyboards. I don't see the need to throw away a keyboard that I like when its still working just so the plug can change. I also don't have that many USB ports to begin with (4 total).
Your adapters only work if the hardware you are attempting to adapt support it. It doesn't work with a standard PS2 mouse, only wants that say PS2 / USB. Same for keyboards.
Why should I have to buy all this other hardware because you think there's a lack of room on the back of PCs?
Beer is ALOT of carbs. In a typical american diet, you get WAY too many to being with, and carbs don't make you feel full. So yes, load up on carbs and little protien, you will gain weight.
Wrong advise, bread is the worse thing to use to replace anything. Too many carbs. You need protein to make you feel full. Tell your friends to reduce portions and have a snack of say an apple + 1 tbsp. of peanut butter. Oh and you're right, exercise.
Its not oversimplfying at all. I worked with a trainer to lose 30lbs in 8 weeks. She told me to burn more calories the only things i can do are reduce consumption and increase expendature. In other words, take in less calories and use more.
Your metabolism plays a part as well; she had me add two snacks a day between meals, and lessen the calories in my normal meals.
Here's what she said when I asked "what if i still feel hunger." She said "you're on a diet, you're going to feel a little hunger. Deal with it, but don't cave into it."
Um, what is lame about it? If you're around fat friends, they are probably eating lots of pizza, beer, nachos and in large quantities. They are also likely sitting on the couch. Hang around them, and you'll likely eat the same things, and have the same inactivity. Thus you will gain weight.
Its the same with fat families; its not a gene that's causing them to be fat, its the family's crappy eating and exercise habits. One only need watch things like "We're killing the kids" or Biggest loser family edition to see this.
Don't blame school meals when the kids are learning bad eating habits at home. No one is forcing them to buy seconds, snacks and soda. They learn to eat like that at home.
You're either ignorant, a racist (for lack of a better term), a troll, or all of the above. Your comment is pure stupidity.
Given that we have no macs here at all, your statement is way off. Our entire graphics department has dual monitors. At my previous employer, all production people did, which was software engineers, developers and designers.
As for the "common man" the person that owns the gym I goes to knew about multiple monitors. He actually has three; one for him, one for us to display messages as we sign in, and another which is next to his monitor so that he can see what we are seeing.
You still never addressed my comments; why is it so easy to do on Windows, yet so challenging on Linux? Surely if Windows can do it easily, the "best OS in the w0rld!!!1111!" can do it too?
Oh, and thanks for re-enforcing my point about the lame attitude of the Linux community.
No shit. Perhaps you need to rethink what "if" does to a sentence.
Hmm, not likely thousands. When you have the blinders of TV on, even a small crowd looks big. So if a small group of Irish chanted death to america in the streets, you'd think its a direct threat to us and that all other Irish should stage protests against them? Ahh racism.
Not quite. As early as 200 to 300 years ago, Puritans in this country were killing people for having sex. Try some history books once in a while.
Gaim/Pidgin - Alt-F4 or hitting X doesn't close the app. Have more than 1 window open for Word or any office app? Guess what, closing a window won't close your program.
Haven't used Gaim on Windows, why bother? Nobody expects an application to close then there are multiple windows of that application open. Firefox and Internet explorer do the same thing. Its pretty standard. But when you close the last window on an application, you don't expect the application to still be running.
And Alt-F4 is intuitive? (Hint: it's a learned Windows habit.)
Hint, Cmd-Q is not the same as closing a single window for a running application. Alt-F4 just closes a single window; if its the LAST window open for a running application, the application terminates. Cmd-q (according to the OP) will force the application to terminate.
The large number of posts of people complaining about incompatibilities indicate it's the status quo. (+16M entries there)
Right, because the number of google hits is an accurate metric of any problem.
Considering there's 100s of millions of PCs out there, and top games sell around 1-2 million copies (there are some that hit 10M), I'd say most people could care less about games. And you're correct, there's probably more games for PC than Mac, in no small part thanks to MS's efforts to ensure it stays that way (monopoly, anyone?). Let's wait another year or so and see where this goes.
Again, brush up on your statistics. A significate portion of those 100s of millions of PCs are owned by businesses, and thus are not going to be used for gaming. To include those PCs skews your "analysis." Also, not everyone that plays games on the computer buys the big hits. A top selling game is not purchased by every PC gamer. Doom is unlikely to have a large audience among RTSers or people that prefer strategy games. Nothing will change as far as MACs go next year with regards to gamers; Linux has more users than MACs, yet very few make Linux versions of games. A good example is DOOM 3; it was ported to Linux before it was ported to a MAC.
I used to do all those on a PC as well. I have several hundred dollars worth of software I no longer use, because even the default bundled Mac software handily beat them in ease of use and efficiency of time spent completing a project. Additionally, I've not had to much with my Mac's OS, unlike my Windows box which requires some sort of maintenance at least every 3 months to keep it running smoothly.
I'd argue MS is a victim of its own success here. Can you imagine the antitrust suits filed if they included a full featured image editor or movie editor? As far as your maintenance comment goes, please step out of 1998. WinXP requires nothing to keep it going just fine. I've had it running on my laptop for six years now without the need to reformat or do anything special.
Well cool, that's another plus in the Wii column. I'll probably buy one soon. The only negatives I've seen posted are regarding the things I mentioned as being non-issues to me at this point.
FWIW, to play RE 1 on the Wii requires you buy a Gamecube memory card and controller (for around $30, if you get a new generic controller and used memory card) as RE1 is a gamecube game. If you liked the olden games (NES, SNES, etc.) you'll be pleased to know that the Wii can play natively any gamecube game, and can play many games from the NES to the N64 via the virtual console. There's even some sega and turbografx games on the VC as well.
On video and photo editing, I humbly suggest you try out, and I mean really try out, the offerings on a Mac. If you still feel that way after that, maybe you just like the paradigms in the windows world. I, and everyone I know that's tried it, find those apps much easier to utilize on a Mac. As for choices, there's enough and perhaps more real choices in the Mac world. You don't get 20 versions of Paint with slightly different toolbars, as an example. You'll get i
Considering that we didn't really know much about what the surface of Mars as actually like, I don't think you can say that NASA purposefully mislead anyone. Perhaps they beleived conditions were much harsher than they turned out to be.
I said you had to unlearn Windows habits, some of them bad. For one thing, the inconsistency in what happens when you close a window depends on what other windows are running. Sometimes windows close without closing their program, and then you have to resort to Task Manager or some other tool to kill a process.
Where do you get this load of crap? Windows closes a programs when you close their window. The exception is when you have a program running in the notification area. But the behavior has been consistent for all software I've run (winamp, outlook, trillian, MSN messenger, aim, etc etc).
You can easily get a 2-button mouse, or, if you're really adventuresome, a 3 button mouse. This ability has existed for years and years.
Great, so now I can spend another $50 on an apple approved mouse, instead of the MAC just coming with a three button wheel mouse.
As for closing a program, try Cmd-Q. Ooo, that was hard.
Oh stupid me for not sitting down in front of a MAC and know suddenly knowing that Cmd-Q actually closes the application and not just hides the window. Of course, so intiutive!
Regarding hardware, I never said you specifically had hardware issues, but many I know did, and Vista especially is having hardware driver issues.
You mean that a new OS with new driver APIs require new drivers for Vista? Perhaps crappy hardware vendors have been having problems, but everything just worked when I upgraded from XP to Vista. Many of those issues are identified if you run the upgrade advisor as well, so you know ahead of time if there will be any potential issues. But of course since you know someone that has had problems, that must be the status quo.
Wow, I can't wait to... er, what, play? If the only thing your PC is good for is games, then you and I have entirely different wants/needs/desires for our hardware. I could care less about "yet another FPS POS with slightly better graphics than version 231" known as Halo 3, and I had to look up what version 4 of RE was. I prefer strategy games along the Civilization line and admit I enjoyed Quake/Half Life in network deathmatches. The newer versions I tried didn't offer much over the old ones in the way of game play.
You may not care for them, but people do. Saying MAC is a solution for most people is absurd when most of the top games aren't even playable there. With Linux you have a shot at playing them via Wine, but no chance in hell on a MAC. Its really too bad you didn't know what Resident Evil was; its not just a shooter, there's quite a bit of puzzle solving and a great plot. There's also more strategy games for the PC than MAC.
At any rate, I don't only play games on my PC, and lately I haven't at all. But its nice knowing that I can. I also manage my finances and home business, develop software, get pictures and video off my camera, listen to music, get email, etc. I can do all those very easily on a PC. Saying I should unlearn "bad" habits so that I can cut some of my uses out and use a MAC is stupid.
The Wii has interested me somewhat precisely because it is a departure from the ever onward grind of same game with better graphics routine that's been pretty much the rule since the first Kung-Fu fighting games and Wolfenstein 3D. Throw in networked play, and you have today's offerings.
I actually agree here, I've been having a lot of fun with my Wii. Currently RE1 is my game of choice, and can't be considered a shooter at all.
Now for things I do, try photo and movie import, organizing, editing, and viewing for starters. You can't beat the software that's available on a Mac, even the bundled applications are pretty darn decent. The Mac also allows me to edit and publish web pages easily and has the full complement of standard tools I need, want, and expect to integrate with outside systems (all non-MS btw).
Video and photo editing software on the PC is just as good as on the MAC. There's also more choices. Thi
You forget that copying from the CD to the harddrive counts as making a copy. The license agreement grants you the right to do this, if you install Windows. It doesn't permit you to copy just the bits you want though, which would violate copyright laws. Sorry to burst your bubble.
They did provide a link to download the code though, but it seems that doesn't matter.
Enterprise does have features that Business doesn't, such as bitlocker. Those features are likely more useful to enterprise, at least that's MS' line.
You won't see the starter edition, as that's only sold to third world countries... although I think I can install that from my MSDN subscription.
Also, the only two disc versions are 32 or 64 bit; the version you get depends soley on the license key you enter (although Enterprise may be a bit different, since its through VL only).
I've tried Mac, and found the interface to be infuratingly frustrating. I hated only having one mouse button, I hated having to close programs that had no windows associated with them. Note that I didn't suffer those same problems when I was on Linux. Linux had other issues I didn't care for, and contrary to what you seem to think, I've never had hardware that didn't work with Windows.
But you're right, I'll try again. I can't wait to play RE4 and Halo 3 on the MAC! Oh wait..
I ran Linux as a desktop for five years, and I've switched back. Honestly, who cares if you know someone that switched from Solaris to Linux, or OSX to Linux? That's not relevent to people switching from Windows to Linux at all.
I also find it interesting you need to qualify "away from Windows for a year." That implies that others switched back before the one year mark.
A state is only free as its least free man. Likewise, a state is only as secure as its most vunerable citizen.
Also, there are other things not explicitly spelled out in the Constitution that are not there because the framers took for granted that it was obvious. Go read their thoughts for yourself.
"Normal" people don't run two monitors.
Utter bullshit. Its common at my work place, and its starting to become pretty mainstream. I had dual monitors when I was doing web development (and I wish I had them now).
Nice argument though; someone brings up something that was much harder to do in Linux, and you're response is "so what who does that???" I guess that's why Linux will never get anywhere on the desktop. OSS people have a really shitty attitude.. just read the article. Linus didn't like the idea of a pluggable scheduler, which to me sounds pretty innovative and wouldn't hurt to include. But I guess being able to customize a scheduler for the task at hand really wouldn't be that useful. Yet another area where Linux could shine, but don't.
If you don't want to be lumped into illogical groups of people perhaps you should reconsider the logic of your faith. There are many, many rules which don't have any logical reason today.
The versions you list aren't all that different.
Home Basic is for those that want internet, WP, budgeting.
Home Premium is for those that want "rich media," which would be your music, pictures, videos and computer games category.
Business is for basic business needs, including developers (although developers can use any version).
Enterprise is for very large (enterprise) customers, which WILL use volume licensing, and includes more advanced features.
So here we have four editions, just like your propose. The only difference is that there is also Ultimate, for people like me that want to do videos, pictures, music but also want the business features for my home business.
The only other edition isn't really relevent unless you're in Asia, because Vista Starter is only sold there. I think its a less featurefull version of Home Basic.
In other words, their current system is pretty close to what you suggest.
Hardly anyone runs Windows because they like Windows, they run Windows because they need to be able to use some bit of Win32 (or, in some cases, Win16) software, and trust Windows to do this more than WINE.
Sorry, that's just horseshit. People actually do like running Windows.
Then you'll be happy to know that Win32 is going to go away. The idea is for .Net to replace Win32 just like Win32 replaced DOS.
They have the right and the power to prevent me connecting to their network. They do not have the right or authority to invasively damage my computer.
Please explain how shutting down a bot on your computer is damaging it.