I doubt that client / server is dead. In fact, it may be coming back..Net supports a 'click to download' where an exe will auto update from a server to download a 'think'.net client. This ensures that the latest code is always on the clients (simply running the app auto installs updates) and you don't have the horrid UI that some try to build in a web client.
Use a web app and then use a desktop app...the controls on a desktop app are simply far supieror to that of a web page.
PNG is an image format that is standardized through the W3C, it's not a "Firefox feature" anymore than JPG is.
Um, how is displaying an image format NOT a feature of FF? It can't display PCX currently...if FF were to gain support, would that not be one of the features?
As others have pointed out, MS has no intrest in tabbed browsing until FF starting gaining steam. Its irrelevent that Opera had it first, FF was the one that made it popular.
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I think the new part is actually hooking the fiber strands up to light bulbs.
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Actually thats not how they evaluate it.
For instance, Amish are trying out cell phones. They are picky, but the criteria they use is 'will the tech bring us closer together or drive us further apart?'
For instance, they tried land phones...and apparently the lines got crossed, and someone heard a neighbor badmouthing her...
They also felt it was rude to leave the people that were in your house to talk to someone who's 'not there.'
For those reasons, they didn't adpot telephones.
But they are using computers (powered by their own generators).
You're right of course. Lets make everything gray too, since color leads to temptation as well...it overstimulates the mind. A nice gray on everything will keep the mind calm.
Either you're a troll or a nut case...I haven't figured out which yet.
If you seriously believe this mindless drivel, do everyone a favor and go live in a cave and never come out.
I just don't think they'll end up bowing to the pressure. I think that was one of the biggest pushers of people away from IE to FF...that FF had a popup blocker and IE didn't. MS ended up putting one in to compete I think.
I'm not sure how I follow how my post goes along; anything advertisers use to get around current technological blocks will likely be even more annoying (after all, if you went out of your way to block something and an advertiser finds away around it, you're gonna be REALLY pissed). Doing nothing won't work either...people learned the ads are annoying and aren't likely to turn off adblocking once its on. Why would they?
Out of curiousity, why do you think MS cares if we see online ads or not? They don't seem to benefit either way..
As the poster below pointed out, the online ad industry probably will die out. They annoyed people to the point that they actively remove ads they simply ignored before. Somehow I doubt that their attempts to get around the technological blocks users put into place will put online advertising back into a positive spotlight; more likely it will further infuriate users who will then use another means to block ads.
Or perhaps online advertisers are now running into legal problems; if they are taking advantage of security exploits to get around popup blocking, there could be legal ramifications for them.
Both are likely, so to me the future of online advertising doesn't look bright.
I think what you're over looking is that the papers are selling online ads for less, because its pretty widely known that people can block online ads altogether.
In print you'll notice the ad out of the corner of your eye even if you don't specifically look at it...online there's just a hole were the ad was..you can't look even if you wanted because you've opted to block all ads.
There...but way up the line, I was responding to the posters comments that spirit rocks are sold for healing purposes and it was legal to do so.
I was arguing the point that there are companies allowed to sell products with false advertising; I was mearly point out that healing rocks are not exempt.
Rich people get all kinds of benefits; no intrest cards with no limits and not set time to repay, when they call to complain about fees they usually get them waived (banks don't want to lose thier million dollar customers).
For a while banks were cashing checks for politicians even though the accounts were negative for long streaches of time.
n plain english, rebate fullfillment houses essentially promise retailers: Acme Rebate services can reject more rebate submissions than Brand X rebate services.
I've seen this alot; does anyone actually have ONE shread of proof?
I think the problem is more that consumers can't properlyl fill out the form (which is really simple) or don't mail the rebate in time. Then they bitch because they were 'screwed.'
Funny how I've never had this problem. Also, most rebates I've seen tell you how long after you submit you can expect to call for a status update. Maybe people should start doing that more often..
MS history and monopoly status should make this more then civil.
I fail to see how MS abused its monopoly status in this particular case.
Consider Michael Jackson -- cash can stop criminal investigations from even starting.
But patent infrinment isn't criminal. Only civil laws were broken. The Jackson case has nothing to do with this; its not a valid comparison because child abuse IS a criminal offense.
Closed settlements are bad for criminal investigations
This is not a criminal investigation. This may be true for criminal cases..but its the victim deciding they want money instead of justice. That's bad for future victims, but its thier choice. It also has nothing to do with MS.
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Its supposed to fix the hacks, and then all the 'broken' stuff should be made standards complaint, not hacked badily again...
I doubt that client / server is dead. In fact, it may be coming back. .Net supports a 'click to download' where an exe will auto update from a server to download a 'think' .net client. This ensures that the latest code is always on the clients (simply running the app auto installs updates) and you don't have the horrid UI that some try to build in a web client.
Use a web app and then use a desktop app...the controls on a desktop app are simply far supieror to that of a web page.
PNG is an image format that is standardized through the W3C, it's not a "Firefox feature" anymore than JPG is.
Um, how is displaying an image format NOT a feature of FF? It can't display PCX currently...if FF were to gain support, would that not be one of the features?
As others have pointed out, MS has no intrest in tabbed browsing until FF starting gaining steam. Its irrelevent that Opera had it first, FF was the one that made it popular.
I'd consider myself a serious web developer, and I've not had any problems writing for FF and not having it work in IE.
Except that people are moving to FF anyway...which hopefully is forcing more lazy webmasters to make their sites standards complaint.
You mean like Ma Bell?
I think the new part is actually hooking the fiber strands up to light bulbs.
Actually thats not how they evaluate it.
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For instance, Amish are trying out cell phones. They are picky, but the criteria they use is 'will the tech bring us closer together or drive us further apart?'
For instance, they tried land phones...and apparently the lines got crossed, and someone heard a neighbor badmouthing her...
They also felt it was rude to leave the people that were in your house to talk to someone who's 'not there.'
For those reasons, they didn't adpot telephones.
But they are using computers (powered by their own generators).
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.01/amish.htm
Good job..teach them that you don't trust them at all and that people need to be monitored because they will do bad things.
Nice message your sending there.
You're right of course. Lets make everything gray too, since color leads to temptation as well...it overstimulates the mind. A nice gray on everything will keep the mind calm.
Either you're a troll or a nut case...I haven't figured out which yet.
If you seriously believe this mindless drivel, do everyone a favor and go live in a cave and never come out.
Really, though, you shouldn't be hard to those people - their jobs are bad enough as it is.
Please, give me a break. They picked a job that they know will annoy people.
Their victims should be as mean as possible...hopefully they'll become so depressed they'll commit suicide.
I understand you weren't digging at MS.
I just don't think they'll end up bowing to the pressure. I think that was one of the biggest pushers of people away from IE to FF...that FF had a popup blocker and IE didn't. MS ended up putting one in to compete I think.
I'm not sure how I follow how my post goes along; anything advertisers use to get around current technological blocks will likely be even more annoying (after all, if you went out of your way to block something and an advertiser finds away around it, you're gonna be REALLY pissed). Doing nothing won't work either...people learned the ads are annoying and aren't likely to turn off adblocking once its on. Why would they?
Could the exploit be used to install malware to FF?
If yes, then its a user problem...if not...the its an IE problem.
Out of curiousity, why do you think MS cares if we see online ads or not? They don't seem to benefit either way..
As the poster below pointed out, the online ad industry probably will die out. They annoyed people to the point that they actively remove ads they simply ignored before. Somehow I doubt that their attempts to get around the technological blocks users put into place will put online advertising back into a positive spotlight; more likely it will further infuriate users who will then use another means to block ads.
Or perhaps online advertisers are now running into legal problems; if they are taking advantage of security exploits to get around popup blocking, there could be legal ramifications for them.
Both are likely, so to me the future of online advertising doesn't look bright.
Ahh...I thought that you believed we didn't have it (still) because your friends didn't know what SMS was. Sorry, my mistake.
However it will likely take off.
Seventy percent of US HS students believe that the news media SHOULD get gov't appproval before being allowed to publish their story.
I think what you're over looking is that the papers are selling online ads for less, because its pretty widely known that people can block online ads altogether.
In print you'll notice the ad out of the corner of your eye even if you don't specifically look at it...online there's just a hole were the ad was..you can't look even if you wanted because you've opted to block all ads.
At the very least, they should not have passed something that they didn't even read first..
FYI...what you call SMS is probably refered to as 'text messaging' here. And we've had that a few years also...but maybe not before Europe or Japan.
There...but way up the line, I was responding to the posters comments that spirit rocks are sold for healing purposes and it was legal to do so.
I was arguing the point that there are companies allowed to sell products with false advertising; I was mearly point out that healing rocks are not exempt.
Yes, and if the consumer chooses to ignore said disclaimer (which isn't hard to find in my experience), well...they're stupider then i thought.
Sorry...don't buy it.
Rich people get all kinds of benefits; no intrest cards with no limits and not set time to repay, when they call to complain about fees they usually get them waived (banks don't want to lose thier million dollar customers).
For a while banks were cashing checks for politicians even though the accounts were negative for long streaches of time.
n plain english, rebate fullfillment houses essentially promise retailers: Acme Rebate services can reject more rebate submissions than Brand X rebate services.
I've seen this alot; does anyone actually have ONE shread of proof?
I think the problem is more that consumers can't properlyl fill out the form (which is really simple) or don't mail the rebate in time. Then they bitch because they were 'screwed.'
Funny how I've never had this problem. Also, most rebates I've seen tell you how long after you submit you can expect to call for a status update. Maybe people should start doing that more often..
MS history and monopoly status should make this more then civil.
I fail to see how MS abused its monopoly status in this particular case.
Consider Michael Jackson -- cash can stop criminal investigations from even starting.
But patent infrinment isn't criminal. Only civil laws were broken. The Jackson case has nothing to do with this; its not a valid comparison because child abuse IS a criminal offense.
Closed settlements are bad for criminal investigations
This is not a criminal investigation. This may be true for criminal cases..but its the victim deciding they want money instead of justice. That's bad for future victims, but its thier choice. It also has nothing to do with MS.