Well jumping quickly to such a conclusion is very understandable. Companies WILL do such things. I mean, who would build something that could put a serious cramp in thier revenue stream? A company will do as little as possible for thier customers, and will almost never do anything that would hurt thier bottom line.
Well, IT depts are supposed to be masters of the tech. If they get blamed for an end user NOT following its instructions, well then something is really screwy with your company (no offense:) ). It also sounds like if your company gets hammered by something like this, well then they get what they deserve.
Ok, then they get lots of calls complaining about how slow EVERYTHING is now. Besides, if i were still in the dorms i'd be very angry about this. We do pay for our internet connections after all.
That is simple too. I'm assuming you image HDs, and don't have someone sitting there installing Winxx everytime you need a fresh computer. Put it n the image. And you don't need to be computer savvy to do what i did. After opening Explorer, it took 2 clicks, scrolling toward the bottom of a list box (i hope even joe blow in marketing can handle this...) A double click to open another windows, clicking on Edit, then clicking on Set As Default. So in all, 6 clicks max (counting the double click as 2). Wait i forgot the really hard part; clicking OK twice. Now, we we've had to do similar changes we sent a detailed email, including pictures of where and what to click. Anyone that couldn't follow those instructions were fired.
I think AOL and TW should be broken up; after they are not allowed to merge. Maybe its time we make mergers illegal, and break up companies automattically once they reach a certain level.
Well, the problem is that i bet alot of people complaining can't code. I think that regular users of open source stuff don't know that they should be polite, not report things that are already known bugs, etc. I think they need to RTFM; but they should be doing that about ALOT of things, not just OS software;)
How about the fact that the RIAA should probably be illegal. Its seems to me to be a trust. They work together more then they compete. Also keep in mind that the artists usually don't get most of the money from cd sales, unless they are really big time. Ever notice that alot of washed up bands aren't really living that well after they are famous? Quite frankly i could give a fuck if the artist gets paid. There are very few bands i actually like (like being defined as i enjoy most of the songs on the disc). Why should i have to pay $20 for a crappy cd with only one song i like? Its amazing how many bands there are like that, yet they continue to thrive. At any rate, i'd be much more inclined to buy cds if most of the money really did go to the artist; but thats not the case. I also try not to support labels whenever possible, b/c i'm tired of mtv and other outlets trying to force this crap down my throat.
I heard some people in the computer division of my school. They basically said there isn't anything they can do about Gnutella. They sadi there was no fesible way to block it.
Well the easist way to contain it would be to not use Outlook, which is horribly insecure mail client. After i heard about this virus, i also changed the default action for double clicking a.vbs to edit instead of open. See how easy it could have been to prevent this?
I'd have to disagree w/you. Education is the key to solving just about any problem out there. Hell, if the general public were more educationed about computers, maybe we wouldn't be beating our head against the wall trying to help them. Your statement seems like an elitist attitude. After all, knowledge is power. Just b/c everyone won't know everything doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get people as educated as possible. Just look at how many other problems exist out there just b/c some people are ignorant.
I don't know which version of outlook you are talking about, but outlook 5 i believe will...i had the preview pane on that, and it would do stuff automatically...not once i turned off such features however.
I'll tell you why companies use software for critial things, and that software doesn't come w/protection. Its b/c NO ONE offers any such software, and why would they? There is no incentive to make themselves more vunerable, and no other company is willing to do that to get one up on the competition. Just like my cable company or phone company don't really bother with service when things go wrong. What am i gonna do, threaten to get another cable or phone company? Hah, even if i could, the other phone/cable companes would be just the same.
Except that this crap lets software makers make crappy software and still reap from it. Also, its one thing for your calculator to say 5+3=9 and that you should have checked it. Its quite another to say you should check all 1,000,000 db record updates, or calculate pi out to the 50th place by hand. I think thats why we have computers, to do that for us RELIABLY. If we can't use them for that purpose, whats the point?
B/c thats rarely the case. The OS shouldn't crash b/c it doesn't know about some hardware. I've personally had 2 hardware failures in the past 8 years, an hd failure and an mb failure. Neither were caused by software interaction. If a computer with a good soundcard it in crashes due to a soundcard OS interaction, guess what, ITS THE OSES FAULT! The OS should not be brought down by such a trivial thing. Obviously it cannot withstand faulty hardware, but hardware it doesn't quite know about...there's no excuse for that.
I mean, do you think a car company could just take no liability for sending out thousands of cars with bad brakes?
Well, according to one of my professors, if you sign an agreement not to hold them to anything and they don't claim the car is perfect, then yes, they can do that. Of course that kind of thinking doesn't make any sense, but this is america we're talking about.
Redhat has something just like that, its called up2date. It will check redhats servers for newer packages, and will download and install them if they are found.
Hmm..seems ok that they put them in there. Altho i would rather not for another reason; that stuff gets logged and its just more crap to look thru before i find the line i'm looking for. But then youi shouldn't be booting your linux box too much so it doesn't matter that much i guess:)
Oh, i am sorry, i made some typos when i was typing. I'm sure you're perfect and never have made any when typing quickly. So i guess then that was the biggest fault you could find with my post. Fuck off dumbass.
This is nice as long as your employer only sees things your way. Go get a job at IBM and you'll quickly learn that it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters WHAT THEY THINK.
I'm sure i could sue them for something if they fired me for some non-work related thing. Just as a smoker could say he was disciminated against b/c he chooses to do something that doesn't really harm anyone else.
So until you get that into your scrawny little ass mind, I suggest you remain a pizza delivery boy.
I never have and probably won't ever be a pizza delivery boy. I work for a company that develops internet applications, and make desent enough money (considering i'm not done college yet and right now only part time). As far as IBM goes, they can go fuck themselves, its their loss. I've got other offers if i want them.
Um, i don't really think linux is an experiment in a CS lab anyway, at least not any more. I installed a linux box at work, which is mission critical. We found the windoze box was too unstable to handle the task, and needed rebooting every few days. To my knowledge (i haven't actualy been on site for 3+ months now) the linux box has never gone done, and never needed any tweaking. It has also been giving them better performance. There are also alot of apps for linux, server stuff at least. PHP, some sql servers, apache, smb, nfs, all of which is valueable to buinesses. And comparing the track records of these servers with ms ones, i'd say stability is pretty important. And linux is both stable and useful.
You're the fucking asshole simpleton. You don't even know what art is. Wake up dumbass, there is a little bit of a differnce between a fucking cookie (which any idiot can make, by the way) and art. An artist lives to express his ideas in the music he creates, or paintings he paints, or statues he sculpts. They want to make people think in new directions, make them feel things deeply. That usually means they want thier art to be seen/heard/otherwise experienced. Metallica is now the equivelent of these fucking MCSEs; these know-nothing, ignorant, bullheaded morons that wouldn't know a network socket from thier ass. You know, the people responsible for creating the messes i usually have the displeasure of cleaning up. Oh, i won't be starving by a long shot dude. i've been w/my current employer 6 months, and i've already had 2 raises amounting to a 40% increase in my pay. I charge for my coding skills, its a nice thing to be able to create my art, as you put it, and get paid for it. But i would still code even if i wasn't being paid for it. Its all a matter of where your intrests lie. Mine are in coding, and then making money. These idiots are in making money, then playing music. Goto hell you anonymous coward.
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Well jumping quickly to such a conclusion is very understandable. Companies WILL do such things. I mean, who would build something that could put a serious cramp in thier revenue stream? A company will do as little as possible for thier customers, and will almost never do anything that would hurt thier bottom line.
Well, IT depts are supposed to be masters of the tech. If they get blamed for an end user NOT following its instructions, well then something is really screwy with your company (no offense :) ). It also sounds like if your company gets hammered by something like this, well then they get what they deserve.
Oh, and i believe their final solution was to upgrade from a T3 to an OC3 :)
Ok, then they get lots of calls complaining about how slow EVERYTHING is now. Besides, if i were still in the dorms i'd be very angry about this. We do pay for our internet connections after all.
That is simple too. I'm assuming you image HDs, and don't have someone sitting there installing Winxx everytime you need a fresh computer. Put it n the image. And you don't need to be computer savvy to do what i did. After opening Explorer, it took 2 clicks, scrolling toward the bottom of a list box (i hope even joe blow in marketing can handle this...) A double click to open another windows, clicking on Edit, then clicking on Set As Default. So in all, 6 clicks max (counting the double click as 2). Wait i forgot the really hard part; clicking OK twice. Now, we we've had to do similar changes we sent a detailed email, including pictures of where and what to click. Anyone that couldn't follow those instructions were fired.
I think AOL and TW should be broken up; after they are not allowed to merge. Maybe its time we make mergers illegal, and break up companies automattically once they reach a certain level.
Well, the problem is that i bet alot of people complaining can't code. I think that regular users of open source stuff don't know that they should be polite, not report things that are already known bugs, etc. I think they need to RTFM; but they should be doing that about ALOT of things, not just OS software ;)
How about the fact that the RIAA should probably be illegal. Its seems to me to be a trust. They work together more then they compete. Also keep in mind that the artists usually don't get most of the money from cd sales, unless they are really big time. Ever notice that alot of washed up bands aren't really living that well after they are famous? Quite frankly i could give a fuck if the artist gets paid. There are very few bands i actually like (like being defined as i enjoy most of the songs on the disc). Why should i have to pay $20 for a crappy cd with only one song i like? Its amazing how many bands there are like that, yet they continue to thrive. At any rate, i'd be much more inclined to buy cds if most of the money really did go to the artist; but thats not the case. I also try not to support labels whenever possible, b/c i'm tired of mtv and other outlets trying to force this crap down my throat.
I heard some people in the computer division of my school. They basically said there isn't anything they can do about Gnutella. They sadi there was no fesible way to block it.
Well the easist way to contain it would be to not use Outlook, which is horribly insecure mail client. After i heard about this virus, i also changed the default action for double clicking a .vbs to edit instead of open. See how easy it could have been to prevent this?
I guess there is no more need to post...you have stated everything much better then i ever could!
This is just knitpicking...but i believe the XTLA you are looking for is USPS (United States Postal Service).
I'd have to disagree w/you. Education is the key to solving just about any problem out there. Hell, if the general public were more educationed about computers, maybe we wouldn't be beating our head against the wall trying to help them. Your statement seems like an elitist attitude. After all, knowledge is power. Just b/c everyone won't know everything doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get people as educated as possible. Just look at how many other problems exist out there just b/c some people are ignorant.
I don't know which version of outlook you are talking about, but outlook 5 i believe will...i had the preview pane on that, and it would do stuff automatically...not once i turned off such features however.
I don't know of any mail clients that will automattically run perl.
I'll tell you why companies use software for critial things, and that software doesn't come w/protection. Its b/c NO ONE offers any such software, and why would they? There is no incentive to make themselves more vunerable, and no other company is willing to do that to get one up on the competition. Just like my cable company or phone company don't really bother with service when things go wrong. What am i gonna do, threaten to get another cable or phone company? Hah, even if i could, the other phone/cable companes would be just the same.
Except that this crap lets software makers make crappy software and still reap from it. Also, its one thing for your calculator to say 5+3=9 and that you should have checked it. Its quite another to say you should check all 1,000,000 db record updates, or calculate pi out to the 50th place by hand. I think thats why we have computers, to do that for us RELIABLY. If we can't use them for that purpose, whats the point?
B/c thats rarely the case. The OS shouldn't crash b/c it doesn't know about some hardware. I've personally had 2 hardware failures in the past 8 years, an hd failure and an mb failure. Neither were caused by software interaction. If a computer with a good soundcard it in crashes due to a soundcard OS interaction, guess what, ITS THE OSES FAULT! The OS should not be brought down by such a trivial thing. Obviously it cannot withstand faulty hardware, but hardware it doesn't quite know about...there's no excuse for that.
I mean, do you think a car company could just take no liability for sending out thousands of cars with bad brakes?
Well, according to one of my professors, if you sign an agreement not to hold them to anything and they don't claim the car is perfect, then yes, they can do that. Of course that kind of thinking doesn't make any sense, but this is america we're talking about.
Redhat has something just like that, its called up2date. It will check redhats servers for newer packages, and will download and install them if they are found.
Hmm..seems ok that they put them in there. Altho i would rather not for another reason; that stuff gets logged and its just more crap to look thru before i find the line i'm looking for. But then youi shouldn't be booting your linux box too much so it doesn't matter that much i guess:)
Oh, i am sorry, i made some typos when i was typing. I'm sure you're perfect and never have made any when typing quickly. So i guess then that was the biggest fault you could find with my post. Fuck off dumbass.
This is nice as long as your employer only sees things your way. Go get a job at IBM and you'll quickly learn that it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters WHAT THEY THINK.
I'm sure i could sue them for something if they fired me for some non-work related thing. Just as a smoker could say he was disciminated against b/c he chooses to do something that doesn't really harm anyone else.
So until you get that into your scrawny little ass mind, I suggest you remain a pizza delivery boy.
I never have and probably won't ever be a pizza delivery boy. I work for a company that develops internet applications, and make desent enough money (considering i'm not done college yet and right now only part time). As far as IBM goes, they can go fuck themselves, its their loss. I've got other offers if i want them.
Um, i don't really think linux is an experiment in a CS lab anyway, at least not any more. I installed a linux box at work, which is mission critical. We found the windoze box was too unstable to handle the task, and needed rebooting every few days. To my knowledge (i haven't actualy been on site for 3+ months now) the linux box has never gone done, and never needed any tweaking. It has also been giving them better performance. There are also alot of apps for linux, server stuff at least. PHP, some sql servers, apache, smb, nfs, all of which is valueable to buinesses. And comparing the track records of these servers with ms ones, i'd say stability is pretty important. And linux is both stable and useful.
You're the fucking asshole simpleton. You don't even know what art is. Wake up dumbass, there is a little bit of a differnce between a fucking cookie (which any idiot can make, by the way) and art. An artist lives to express his ideas in the music he creates, or paintings he paints, or statues he sculpts. They want to make people think in new directions, make them feel things deeply. That usually means they want thier art to be seen/heard/otherwise experienced. Metallica is now the equivelent of these fucking MCSEs; these know-nothing, ignorant, bullheaded morons that wouldn't know a network socket from thier ass. You know, the people responsible for creating the messes i usually have the displeasure of cleaning up. Oh, i won't be starving by a long shot dude. i've been w/my current employer 6 months, and i've already had 2 raises amounting to a 40% increase in my pay. I charge for my coding skills, its a nice thing to be able to create my art, as you put it, and get paid for it. But i would still code even if i wasn't being paid for it. Its all a matter of where your intrests lie. Mine are in coding, and then making money. These idiots are in making money, then playing music. Goto hell you anonymous coward.