Well, we can't let people actually discuss the issue here, which is a zero day exploit in a FOSS project. Nope, we'll gloss over that and nitpick the word used to describe Mozilla.
The lawyer asked for proof that HIS CLIENT, Nelson Ivan Serrano, was able to travel across two states and kill four people in the time that prosecutors had alleged.
Fair enough... but what is different from the guy that DID travel in that amount of time and Mr. Serrano, which would prevent HIM from doing it? Is he crippled or something? Composilvely obeys speed limits? Otherwise, its reasonable to assume that if one average human can do it, another average human could as well. I also assume the lawyer that proved he could included the time taken to kill the victims... thats such a basic omission when you're working on a million dollar prize.
The old "re-install once a year" really stopped applying quite some time ago... why people continue to do so is beyond me. I even upgraded in places from XPSP3 to Vista RTM, and except for one driver (the gameport on my sound card, which is still unusable... not that I used it anyway), it went fine. I haven't had any problems not reinstalling often.
Your wife should be mad; why are you not backing up the data?
Nit-picking the oversimplification does not lead to increased understanding.
Its not an oversimplification; its simply how it is.
Regarding the rest of your post, please read and bold ALL relevent parts, not just the ones you think are relevent. From your quote:
"In 1979 the Postal Service authorized the delivery of extremely urgent letters outside the USPS; this has given rise to delivery services such as Federal Express and UPS. These [extremely urgent letters] must either cost at least the greater of $3 or twice what First Class (or Priority) mail service would cost"
So where exactly does it state that UPS can't have a rate for items less than 1lbs? UPS isn't a "mail delivery service," so those rules do not apply to them.
He meant a 1/4 pound of meat, not a 1/4 pound patty of something that is part meat, 80% cereal. And don't come back with that 100% pure beef bull, yes, the beef is 100% pure (have you ever seen a cow crossed with something else ?), it's just not 100% of the patty.
Sorry, I forget some people never let facts get in the way of their beliefs. Check their ingredients list, they MUST list all ingredients, and there's nothing saying the patty is 80% cereal, or anything other than beef.
If you believe, and have evidence, that McDs is using filler in their beef (and on that page you'll find this: 100% pure USDA inspected beef; no fillers, no extenders. Prepared with grill seasoning (salt, black pepper)), please contact the relevent government agencies, since legally they MUST list all ingredients.
McD's burgers have tiny, thin patties. Their taste comes from the toppings, not from the beef itself. If you like that, more power to you. But a real burger has typically a 1/4 to 1/3 pound patty of beef, and much of the flavor comes from the meat itself.
You mean like the 1/4 lber or double quarter pounder they have, which is what I get? I also don't get most of the toppings... cheese and ketchup and mustard, which is all I get with any burger.
And if you're fit, it's probably because you're still under 30, or maybe have been smart enough to stay away from soft drinks. McDs burgers aren't really that bad for you, it's mostly the drinks, which are loaded with high-fructose corn syrup, though the ketchup and buns have it as well so they're not exactly healthy either. HFCS is the reason so many kids these days are obese.
Over 30, and now I stay away from soda. But stop blaming HFCS; the problem is 1) people eat WAY too much (do you measure your food servings? I do) and 2) people sit on their ass way too much.
Remove HFCS, and you STILL have a problem with most bread, being that its white bread, a simple carb. THATs the problem, people eat far too many simple carbs (and fat). Stop thinking that if HFCS suddenly dissappeared that the nation would be full of fatasses... it wouldn't.
Oh... for fun, lookup obesity rates on a map. You'll notice something; the fattest people are in the south, around LA and MS. Guess what the typical diet is there? Yup, anything that's fried. This is not a coincidence.
Only slightly. Besides, if the 3800+ chip was bought brand new yesterday, does that somehow mean it would run Vista faster? No, it means I bought outdated hardware new, and Vista would run on the brand new chip at the same speed as the 3 year old one.
At any rate, none of the components I specified are new, they are all around that old (including the memory, which I got at the same time as the board chip). The newest part of this computer is the SATA drive I got to replace the PATA drive which was older than the board / chip, and I also has Vista on the PATA drive as well, which ran fine, until it failed mechanically. I bought the retail version of Vista shortly after it was released.
I said this in my other reply, and don't get it. Why is it not possible to think the "real" restraunt has a good burger, AND McDs does as well? Its as if McDs is trash only to be eaten by trashy people... ya its cheap, but that doesn't make it trash... unless you want to say Linux is trash because its cheap too?
For the record, I enjoy fancy burgers as well as the fast food ones, and sometime perfer the fast food one. I also hate to break this to you, but I'm pretty fit as well.
However, your burger theory doesn't make sense. Nobody "ends up" at McDs that doesn't want to... they can have a burger at home, or not have a burger at all. Also, you seem to perclude that McDs can't make good burgers. I actually like them quite a bit. I also like the burgers at Wendys, BK, Outback and my local steakhouse, in addition to local pubs. They're all good; just different. I doubt McDs though is the "last resort," since you can throw a stone and find another burger place.
Back to OSes, people going from Windows to Mac is a more recent thing, brought on by the sucess of iPod and more recently, iPhone. When I jumped to Linux, it was at a time when the iPod was just coming out, so this jump didn't happen. People (techies, the one that used to frequent this site) were jumping to Linux. Apple was often also rarely mentioned, especially outside any Apple category. So the jumping done (of which there was little) wasn't to Apple then, it was to Linux.
So while I know elitists like to bash anything popular, the fact is that MS does make good software, McDs does make good food, and Dunkin Donuts does make good coffee... thats they they're still in business.
Its a pretty common thing here on/. to call anyone that says anything pro-MS to be a shill. Check out any thread about MS (and even some stories that have nothing to do with MS).
I know you weren't calling me a shill, I wasn't say you were. I said there is a problem here with regards to labeling someone a shill for having a differing opinion.
There's nothing saying they have a minimum amount to charge for packages less than 1lbs, nor anything preventhing them from offering prices on items less than a pound; the fact is they charge as much as they do simply because they can.
Because as an individual your job depends on if you comply or not; you have been coerced. Personally I don't think people should be coerced into doing bad things, so I'm totaly fine with the company taking the hit and the employees "getting off."
If we held individuals responsible, then individuals would stand-up to the corporations and say no.
And said individuals would be promptly fired, and someone that really needs a job (especially now) will take their place. You can't as an individual employee stand up to your employer, unfortunately.
The problem is that you assume anyone here that actually LIKES MS' product (like me) is automatically a shill. I'm not a shill, I'm a person that was exteremly disapointed when I jumped to Linux, and thus jumped back. My Linux experience actually turned around my opinion of MS software. It was very much a case of "the grass is greener on the other side," only to find that not only wasn't it any more green, there were quite a few brown patches.
The difference is that you KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING AN AD, paid for by the company. There are also usually disclaimers on the ad, if you look saying "actor portryal, actors potraying real customers, real customers compensated, real customer not compensated."
No, there's a pretty clear difference between astro-turfing and normal marketing. In normal marketing you know the message is coming from the company, and thus can easily take said message with a grain of salt. In astro-turfing, its made to sound like someone living down the street actually tried the product and liked it. So the assumption there is that the person making the statement isn't biased because they are on the companies payroll.
Unfortunately, the RIAA et al would like to consider BOTH of the above as "Not Fair To Their Profit Margins", and in pursuing this goal, they are simply alienating their REAL potential customers
I don't recall a case where the RIAA sued someone for ripping their own CDs to their iPod, and P2P was not involved in any way. Not saying they WOULDN'T like to do that, but they probably realize such a case would not get very far.
Oh, fucking shoot me, I remembered the year wrong. How does that in any way change that I'm using an "outdated" computer which handles Vista just fine?
Plus, they have a monopoly on letter delivery - that's why fedex costs so much more, they have to classify and price it as something other than a letter - so that's an indirect tax by government intervention to prevent a free market.
Are you that stupid? They HAVE to charge more because they can't classify it as a letter? Thats the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. It has nothing to do with what you call it.. FedEx is simply more expensive to move the same item, because they CHOOSE to charge more.
You still pay more (0.55 EUR vs. 0.44 USD), but the US service is definitely worse. In Germany, mail is delivered within half a day 99% of the time (drop it off at 5pm, get it in the mail at 9am), in the US it is two to three business days.
Wow, talk about apples to oranges. Germany is smaller than Montana, a SINGLE STATE in the US. Also, the population of Germany is 82 million, while the US has 300 million, which means there's that much MORE mail to deliver over a MUCH larger area, much of which is rural.
There's nothing wrong with the USPS, and your quip is just ignorant.
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Except that you seem to have a habit of doing that... and backing up would also mean that when the drive fails, you haven't lost everything either.
Well, we can't let people actually discuss the issue here, which is a zero day exploit in a FOSS project. Nope, we'll gloss over that and nitpick the word used to describe Mozilla.
The lawyer asked for proof that HIS CLIENT, Nelson Ivan Serrano, was able to travel across two states and kill four people in the time that prosecutors had alleged.
Fair enough... but what is different from the guy that DID travel in that amount of time and Mr. Serrano, which would prevent HIM from doing it? Is he crippled or something? Composilvely obeys speed limits? Otherwise, its reasonable to assume that if one average human can do it, another average human could as well. I also assume the lawyer that proved he could included the time taken to kill the victims... thats such a basic omission when you're working on a million dollar prize.
The old "re-install once a year" really stopped applying quite some time ago... why people continue to do so is beyond me. I even upgraded in places from XPSP3 to Vista RTM, and except for one driver (the gameport on my sound card, which is still unusable... not that I used it anyway), it went fine. I haven't had any problems not reinstalling often.
Your wife should be mad; why are you not backing up the data?
Nit-picking the oversimplification does not lead to increased understanding.
Its not an oversimplification; its simply how it is.
Regarding the rest of your post, please read and bold ALL relevent parts, not just the ones you think are relevent. From your quote:
"In 1979 the Postal Service authorized the delivery of extremely urgent letters outside the USPS; this has given rise to delivery services such as Federal Express and UPS. These [extremely urgent letters] must either cost at least the greater of $3 or twice what First Class (or Priority) mail service would cost"
So where exactly does it state that UPS can't have a rate for items less than 1lbs? UPS isn't a "mail delivery service," so those rules do not apply to them.
He meant a 1/4 pound of meat, not a 1/4 pound patty of something that is part meat, 80% cereal. And don't come back with that 100% pure beef bull, yes, the beef is 100% pure (have you ever seen a cow crossed with something else ?), it's just not 100% of the patty.
Sorry, I forget some people never let facts get in the way of their beliefs. Check their ingredients list, they MUST list all ingredients, and there's nothing saying the patty is 80% cereal, or anything other than beef.
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/nutrition_ingredients.html
If you believe, and have evidence, that McDs is using filler in their beef (and on that page you'll find this: 100% pure USDA inspected beef; no fillers, no extenders. Prepared with grill seasoning (salt, black pepper)), please contact the relevent government agencies, since legally they MUST list all ingredients.
Otherwise, STFU.
McD's burgers have tiny, thin patties. Their taste comes from the toppings, not from the beef itself. If you like that, more power to you. But a real burger has typically a 1/4 to 1/3 pound patty of beef, and much of the flavor comes from the meat itself.
You mean like the 1/4 lber or double quarter pounder they have, which is what I get? I also don't get most of the toppings... cheese and ketchup and mustard, which is all I get with any burger.
And if you're fit, it's probably because you're still under 30, or maybe have been smart enough to stay away from soft drinks. McDs burgers aren't really that bad for you, it's mostly the drinks, which are loaded with high-fructose corn syrup, though the ketchup and buns have it as well so they're not exactly healthy either. HFCS is the reason so many kids these days are obese.
Over 30, and now I stay away from soda. But stop blaming HFCS; the problem is 1) people eat WAY too much (do you measure your food servings? I do) and 2) people sit on their ass way too much.
Remove HFCS, and you STILL have a problem with most bread, being that its white bread, a simple carb. THATs the problem, people eat far too many simple carbs (and fat). Stop thinking that if HFCS suddenly dissappeared that the nation would be full of fatasses... it wouldn't.
Oh... for fun, lookup obesity rates on a map. You'll notice something; the fattest people are in the south, around LA and MS. Guess what the typical diet is there? Yup, anything that's fried. This is not a coincidence.
Only slightly. Besides, if the 3800+ chip was bought brand new yesterday, does that somehow mean it would run Vista faster? No, it means I bought outdated hardware new, and Vista would run on the brand new chip at the same speed as the 3 year old one.
At any rate, none of the components I specified are new, they are all around that old (including the memory, which I got at the same time as the board chip). The newest part of this computer is the SATA drive I got to replace the PATA drive which was older than the board / chip, and I also has Vista on the PATA drive as well, which ran fine, until it failed mechanically. I bought the retail version of Vista shortly after it was released.
I said this in my other reply, and don't get it. Why is it not possible to think the "real" restraunt has a good burger, AND McDs does as well? Its as if McDs is trash only to be eaten by trashy people... ya its cheap, but that doesn't make it trash... unless you want to say Linux is trash because its cheap too?
For the record, I enjoy fancy burgers as well as the fast food ones, and sometime perfer the fast food one. I also hate to break this to you, but I'm pretty fit as well.
Interesting and subtle way to bash MS, nice job.
However, your burger theory doesn't make sense. Nobody "ends up" at McDs that doesn't want to... they can have a burger at home, or not have a burger at all. Also, you seem to perclude that McDs can't make good burgers. I actually like them quite a bit. I also like the burgers at Wendys, BK, Outback and my local steakhouse, in addition to local pubs. They're all good; just different. I doubt McDs though is the "last resort," since you can throw a stone and find another burger place.
Back to OSes, people going from Windows to Mac is a more recent thing, brought on by the sucess of iPod and more recently, iPhone. When I jumped to Linux, it was at a time when the iPod was just coming out, so this jump didn't happen. People (techies, the one that used to frequent this site) were jumping to Linux. Apple was often also rarely mentioned, especially outside any Apple category. So the jumping done (of which there was little) wasn't to Apple then, it was to Linux.
So while I know elitists like to bash anything popular, the fact is that MS does make good software, McDs does make good food, and Dunkin Donuts does make good coffee... thats they they're still in business.
Its a pretty common thing here on /. to call anyone that says anything pro-MS to be a shill. Check out any thread about MS (and even some stories that have nothing to do with MS).
I know you weren't calling me a shill, I wasn't say you were. I said there is a problem here with regards to labeling someone a shill for having a differing opinion.
And? You clearly KNEW it was an ad, right? That's what astroturfing is attempting to hide... its trying to pretend not to be an ad.
Thats all well and good, but the courts have already disagreed with the RIAA. http://www.virtualrecordings.com/rio.htm
There's nothing saying they have a minimum amount to charge for packages less than 1lbs, nor anything preventhing them from offering prices on items less than a pound; the fact is they charge as much as they do simply because they can.
Because as an individual your job depends on if you comply or not; you have been coerced. Personally I don't think people should be coerced into doing bad things, so I'm totaly fine with the company taking the hit and the employees "getting off."
If we held individuals responsible, then individuals would stand-up to the corporations and say no.
And said individuals would be promptly fired, and someone that really needs a job (especially now) will take their place. You can't as an individual employee stand up to your employer, unfortunately.
The problem is that you assume anyone here that actually LIKES MS' product (like me) is automatically a shill. I'm not a shill, I'm a person that was exteremly disapointed when I jumped to Linux, and thus jumped back. My Linux experience actually turned around my opinion of MS software. It was very much a case of "the grass is greener on the other side," only to find that not only wasn't it any more green, there were quite a few brown patches.
The difference is that you KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING AN AD, paid for by the company. There are also usually disclaimers on the ad, if you look saying "actor portryal, actors potraying real customers, real customers compensated, real customer not compensated."
No, there's a pretty clear difference between astro-turfing and normal marketing. In normal marketing you know the message is coming from the company, and thus can easily take said message with a grain of salt. In astro-turfing, its made to sound like someone living down the street actually tried the product and liked it. So the assumption there is that the person making the statement isn't biased because they are on the companies payroll.
No, its not, not by a long shot, even before the economy tanked.
Let him define "fair use" and you risk being hammered into the ground like Jammie Thomas.
Ya, except that it certainly looks like Jammie did in fact download the songs..
Unfortunately, the RIAA et al would like to consider BOTH of the above as "Not Fair To Their Profit Margins", and in pursuing this goal, they are simply alienating their REAL potential customers
I don't recall a case where the RIAA sued someone for ripping their own CDs to their iPod, and P2P was not involved in any way. Not saying they WOULDN'T like to do that, but they probably realize such a case would not get very far.
Oh, fucking shoot me, I remembered the year wrong. How does that in any way change that I'm using an "outdated" computer which handles Vista just fine?
Plus, they have a monopoly on letter delivery - that's why fedex costs so much more, they have to classify and price it as something other than a letter - so that's an indirect tax by government intervention to prevent a free market.
Are you that stupid? They HAVE to charge more because they can't classify it as a letter? Thats the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. It has nothing to do with what you call it.. FedEx is simply more expensive to move the same item, because they CHOOSE to charge more.
Have you ever thought why FedEx and UPS don't bother with letter carrying services?
They are forbidden to do so by the Constitution.
You still pay more (0.55 EUR vs. 0.44 USD), but the US service is definitely worse. In Germany, mail is delivered within half a day 99% of the time (drop it off at 5pm, get it in the mail at 9am), in the US it is two to three business days.
Wow, talk about apples to oranges. Germany is smaller than Montana, a SINGLE STATE in the US. Also, the population of Germany is 82 million, while the US has 300 million, which means there's that much MORE mail to deliver over a MUCH larger area, much of which is rural.
There's nothing wrong with the USPS, and your quip is just ignorant.