Well, you had strong behavioral tips there, how those two animals typically interact with each other. A bit reversed in many ways in comparison to female - male relations...
...and yet it's all made in the same kind of Chinese sweatshops.
Actually, that isn't really the case for few mobile manufacturers, who not only own all their manufacturing facilities, but also keep them largely out of China. It is for Apple though.
BTW, was classifying this under "animal cruelty or abuse" ever explained in a sufficiently logical way, considering how many millions of animals we slaughter, kill as pests with various neurotoxins or outright drive to extintion?
Do they? I would guess that most (all?) animals that are in any significant way useful (big enough, for example?...) for bestiality purposes can also pretty severely mutiliate a human, if they don't approve ("approve" at least as far as animal mind goes)
Plus many dogs seem to have an uncanny desire at the least for human legs...
Heck, my cat (when normally stroked during whatever remains of heat it has) appears, sometimes, to take on a vaguely mating position... When you think about it, the kind of stroking that is typically performed by humans on many domesticated animals means, when a close equivalent is performed between consenting humans, a powerful turn-on. But try doing it on any random human (or an animal!) that doesn't approve...
Sliding-out qwerty keyboard isn't that popular where key Nokia markets are.
Well, and you know...on Nokia you can actually install different browsers, relying on different (and local) engine. Plus I could certainly install apps to memory card in my S60v3 phone, are you sure you can't on yours?...
(my previous post should have started with "not even close"...)
It wasn't about "phones sold", but marketshare, supposedly... Besides, the former is also certainly inconsistent, not the least because smartphone sales are still growing rapidly and with great room to grow - that wouldn't be possible if they were already at 75%...you would hear "smartphones are close to saturating the sales!"
Isn't the turnover time pretty much 2 years? (yeah, some people keep mobile phones longer...and some change them every few months; I suspect those two groups mostly cancel each other out in a way that makes them insignificant) If there are 234 million mobile phones in the US, that would mean an average sales of 10 million monthly; 30 million per quarter. And that's probably way too cautious, considering that in Q2 2008 (a long time ago...and outside holiday season) 42 million were sold. So, it's safe to assume that during last holiday season...50 million were sold?
those passé, non-OS handsets that account for a whopping 83 percent of the overall U.S. handset market
^that was a three-month average ending in December; pretty much representing pre-holiday numbers. If between that period, and data from the end of February (showing feature phones at around 80%), probably up to 50 million phones was sold...then most of them certainly were not smarpthones (because smartphones were owned by only 45 million people at the end! And that represents a growth of 21% from pre-holiday season!) Not even close to half. The change in overall smartphone marketshare would have been way bigger.
Or...remember that global shipments of Symbian handsets in 2009 were only 80 million units...even though it has 47% of global sales (and barely anything in the US) Also global shipments for iPhone were 25 million units (global!); now, with 50 million mobile phones shipped in the US in that quarter above - for smartphones in the US to have even 50% of sales (and considering US iPhone share of them), there would be really no iPhones left for the rest of the world. Not to mention if that would be 75%...
For perspective, keep in mind that Nokia sells half a billion phones annually. That's an order of magnitude more than total number of iPhones made, ever.
"Dated"? It came out at the beginning of 2007, being a full smartphone and with great camera for the time. That's over a year before iPhone has become a smartphone at all.
And sure, one model might have been crap. A model after first major overhaul of S60. I've heard it's mostly fixed. And iPhone was crap for a year, too...
"Poor"? That's simply a choice Apple makes. What, are you suggesting other manufacturers should limit themselves artificially?
Would it be still "poor use of statistics" if Anroid had 98% of smartphone OS market, uniformly distributed across 200 devices, and iPhone 1% with two devices? Hey, iPhones would be higher per device...
And...what do you mean, "there are many many Java programmers - many more than Objective C programmers and certainly more than Linux/Unix programmers"? With Maemo (and Qt) you can use...pretty much any language you want. And that includes Qt Jambi, official Java bindings.
Well, S60 allowed those "crap" phones to be smartphones in first place - cheapest S60(v3) smartphones aren't much more expensive than 100 bucks...without contract. Generally they seem to be doing something right if Symbian has half of the market.
Plus Symbian^3 (and text ones) seems to be going in the good direction; with UI and development based on Qt there won't be that much of a difference from Maemo...
Overall, 45.4 million people in the U.S. owned smartphones at the end of February, up 21% from the previous three months. Smartphones are the fastest growing segment of the mobile phone market, which comprised 234 million subscribers in the U.S. at the end of February, ComScore said.
Around 20% now probably. Perhaps many "enthusiasts" not realising this is one of the reasons why they think Apple (with 20-something %...of 20%) is so big in mobile phone market. That's even more true worldwide (where I would be surpised if smartphones are even 10%; and where Apple enjoys much smaller part of that 10%) Also probably a reason for not realising how big Nokia (37% of all mobile phones, half of global smartphones), Samsung (20% of total) or LG (10%) really are...
The main thing of concern for Google is probably whether or not the ecosystem is open to their way of making a profit. Maybe they saw a problem looming, with the walled garden approach of Apple. Google wasn't really involved in activelly contributing to healthy mobile landscape when Blackberry was dominating in the US (still is actually) and Nokia globally (still is)
By your logic, a mobile OS with, say, 98% of marketshare would "lose" to Apple if that 98% was uniformly distributed across 100 devices, and Apple had only 1%.
That's why I said "ultimatelly". Yes, of course you can describe certain properties of political system as "take on a life of its own" if you really want to; especially since that's certainly attractive to a large part of citizens, probably gives a feeling of dilution of responsibility. But ultimatelly that system (of governance generally, that's a better term than just "political" IMHO) is inextricably interweaved with the society; is an integral part of its present state.
The difference between what you and I are saying is mostly of semantic type, IMHO. With your version being the "nicer" way of saying it, more palatable to general population (who complains, who "doesn't intend it to be that way"...but the system of governance still stems from them)
Your potential for impersonation stems from the fact that you can't verify with any certainty the identity of people...
Any "inconvenience" with paper voting was due to procedural failings in the UK implementation, not some inherent faults. My (EU) country has also paper voting, and it works extremelly smooth. It's simply scheduled for Sunday, from 8AM to 8PM (and sometimes 10PM), when not only the population has plenty of time to vote but also you have lots of "workforce" available to staff a very dense network of polling stations. I can't remember any voting which took me more than few minutes.
Also, even if you can do e-voting "safe" in technical sense, it inherently can't be trusted. People can't see what's really happening behind the scenes. In contrast, with paper voting you can verify the procedure at the local level yourself (plus...polling stations are often staffed by people from many competing parties, they keep themselves in check rather fine); with many people doing it in most of the country, you can independently verify the elections.
More than security is at stake here. Transparency also matters. With paper voting many citizens are perfectly able to go to the polling station and observe (and grasp!) the whole voting process and counting votes; generally check that everything happens according to the procedure. Have such people in every polling station and you can independently confirm the result of elections. It builds confidence in the results.
There's no transparency with electronic voting. None. Even you are "IT pro" and go to see what happens...well, on/. it's not necessary to explain that you will see almost nothing of the procedure. Now imagine average folks. In this case, you have inherent distrust in the results.
That's asking for mistakes. Both on the side of the workers (on the occasion of frequent reorganization of road two times per day) and drivers (because they being accustomed to as unchanging as possible road configuration, especially in potentially problematic strip, is a good thing) Though I guess not doing it requires some sensible organisation of work...and even that might be not enough for cones to be, in the morning, mostly in the same place...and in one piece.
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Well, you had strong behavioral tips there, how those two animals typically interact with each other. A bit reversed in many ways in comparison to female - male relations...
...and yet it's all made in the same kind of Chinese sweatshops.
Actually, that isn't really the case for few mobile manufacturers, who not only own all their manufacturing facilities, but also keep them largely out of China. It is for Apple though.
BTW, was classifying this under "animal cruelty or abuse" ever explained in a sufficiently logical way, considering how many millions of animals we slaughter, kill as pests with various neurotoxins or outright drive to extintion?
Do they? I would guess that most (all?) animals that are in any significant way useful (big enough, for example?...) for bestiality purposes can also pretty severely mutiliate a human, if they don't approve ("approve" at least as far as animal mind goes)
Plus many dogs seem to have an uncanny desire at the least for human legs...
Heck, my cat (when normally stroked during whatever remains of heat it has) appears, sometimes, to take on a vaguely mating position...
When you think about it, the kind of stroking that is typically performed by humans on many domesticated animals means, when a close equivalent is performed between consenting humans, a powerful turn-on. But try doing it on any random human (or an animal!) that doesn't approve...
Oh well, perhaps there isn't that much of a willing (as opposed to, "mostly forced") community as the other poster thinks...
Oh, but you do have to go into details. For example that Android can also run native apps, not going through the VM.
Sliding-out qwerty keyboard isn't that popular where key Nokia markets are.
Well, and you know...on Nokia you can actually install different browsers, relying on different (and local) engine. Plus I could certainly install apps to memory card in my S60v3 phone, are you sure you can't on yours?...
(my previous post should have started with "not even close"...)
It wasn't about "phones sold", but marketshare, supposedly... Besides, the former is also certainly inconsistent, not the least because smartphone sales are still growing rapidly and with great room to grow - that wouldn't be possible if they were already at 75%...you would hear "smartphones are close to saturating the sales!"
Isn't the turnover time pretty much 2 years? (yeah, some people keep mobile phones longer...and some change them every few months; I suspect those two groups mostly cancel each other out in a way that makes them insignificant)
If there are 234 million mobile phones in the US, that would mean an average sales of 10 million monthly; 30 million per quarter. And that's probably way too cautious, considering that in Q2 2008 (a long time ago...and outside holiday season) 42 million were sold. So, it's safe to assume that during last holiday season...50 million were sold?
And...
http://gigaom.com/2010/03/27/when-it-comes-to-apps-feature-phones-are-the-new-black/
those passé, non-OS handsets that account for a whopping 83 percent of the overall U.S. handset market
^that was a three-month average ending in December; pretty much representing pre-holiday numbers. If between that period, and data from the end of February (showing feature phones at around 80%), probably up to 50 million phones was sold...then most of them certainly were not smarpthones (because smartphones were owned by only 45 million people at the end! And that represents a growth of 21% from pre-holiday season!) Not even close to half. The change in overall smartphone marketshare would have been way bigger.
Or...remember that global shipments of Symbian handsets in 2009 were only 80 million units...even though it has 47% of global sales (and barely anything in the US)
Also global shipments for iPhone were 25 million units (global!); now, with 50 million mobile phones shipped in the US in that quarter above - for smartphones in the US to have even 50% of sales (and considering US iPhone share of them), there would be really no iPhones left for the rest of the world. Not to mention if that would be 75%...
For perspective, keep in mind that Nokia sells half a billion phones annually. That's an order of magnitude more than total number of iPhones made, ever.
"Dated"? It came out at the beginning of 2007, being a full smartphone and with great camera for the time. That's over a year before iPhone has become a smartphone at all.
And sure, one model might have been crap. A model after first major overhaul of S60. I've heard it's mostly fixed. And iPhone was crap for a year, too...
"Poor"? That's simply a choice Apple makes. What, are you suggesting other manufacturers should limit themselves artificially?
Would it be still "poor use of statistics" if Anroid had 98% of smartphone OS market, uniformly distributed across 200 devices, and iPhone 1% with two devices? Hey, iPhones would be higher per device...
So, where is the integration of iPhoneOS with my microSD memory cards or with other Bluetooth devices, for file transfer and usage as access point?
There's always sandboxing, etc.
And...what do you mean, "there are many many Java programmers - many more than Objective C programmers and certainly more than Linux/Unix programmers"? With Maemo (and Qt) you can use...pretty much any language you want. And that includes Qt Jambi, official Java bindings.
Well, S60 allowed those "crap" phones to be smartphones in first place - cheapest S60(v3) smartphones aren't much more expensive than 100 bucks...without contract. Generally they seem to be doing something right if Symbian has half of the market.
Plus Symbian^3 (and text ones) seems to be going in the good direction; with UI and development based on Qt there won't be that much of a difference from Maemo...
Now even close:
Overall, 45.4 million people in the U.S. owned smartphones at the end of February, up 21% from the previous three months. Smartphones are the fastest growing segment of the mobile phone market, which comprised 234 million subscribers in the U.S. at the end of February, ComScore said.
Around 20% now probably. Perhaps many "enthusiasts" not realising this is one of the reasons why they think Apple (with 20-something %...of 20%) is so big in mobile phone market. That's even more true worldwide (where I would be surpised if smartphones are even 10%; and where Apple enjoys much smaller part of that 10%)
Also probably a reason for not realising how big Nokia (37% of all mobile phones, half of global smartphones), Samsung (20% of total) or LG (10%) really are...
The main thing of concern for Google is probably whether or not the ecosystem is open to their way of making a profit. Maybe they saw a problem looming, with the walled garden approach of Apple.
Google wasn't really involved in activelly contributing to healthy mobile landscape when Blackberry was dominating in the US (still is actually) and Nokia globally (still is)
"I dislike a product that is ripping me off less", got it.
One would hope magical thinking would greadually fade away with time, in places where it's still present.
By your logic, a mobile OS with, say, 98% of marketshare would "lose" to Apple if that 98% was uniformly distributed across 100 devices, and Apple had only 1%.
That's why I said "ultimatelly". Yes, of course you can describe certain properties of political system as "take on a life of its own" if you really want to; especially since that's certainly attractive to a large part of citizens, probably gives a feeling of dilution of responsibility. But ultimatelly that system (of governance generally, that's a better term than just "political" IMHO) is inextricably interweaved with the society; is an integral part of its present state.
The difference between what you and I are saying is mostly of semantic type, IMHO. With your version being the "nicer" way of saying it, more palatable to general population (who complains, who "doesn't intend it to be that way"...but the system of governance still stems from them)
Your potential for impersonation stems from the fact that you can't verify with any certainty the identity of people...
Any "inconvenience" with paper voting was due to procedural failings in the UK implementation, not some inherent faults. My (EU) country has also paper voting, and it works extremelly smooth. It's simply scheduled for Sunday, from 8AM to 8PM (and sometimes 10PM), when not only the population has plenty of time to vote but also you have lots of "workforce" available to staff a very dense network of polling stations. I can't remember any voting which took me more than few minutes.
Also, even if you can do e-voting "safe" in technical sense, it inherently can't be trusted. People can't see what's really happening behind the scenes.
In contrast, with paper voting you can verify the procedure at the local level yourself (plus...polling stations are often staffed by people from many competing parties, they keep themselves in check rather fine); with many people doing it in most of the country, you can independently verify the elections.
More than security is at stake here. Transparency also matters. With paper voting many citizens are perfectly able to go to the polling station and observe (and grasp!) the whole voting process and counting votes; generally check that everything happens according to the procedure. Have such people in every polling station and you can independently confirm the result of elections.
It builds confidence in the results.
There's no transparency with electronic voting. None. Even you are "IT pro" and go to see what happens...well, on /. it's not necessary to explain that you will see almost nothing of the procedure. Now imagine average folks.
In this case, you have inherent distrust in the results.
Atmoshperic entry from GEO 15 minutes after reentry burn? No way.
That's asking for mistakes. Both on the side of the workers (on the occasion of frequent reorganization of road two times per day) and drivers (because they being accustomed to as unchanging as possible road configuration, especially in potentially problematic strip, is a good thing)
Though I guess not doing it requires some sensible organisation of work...and even that might be not enough for cones to be, in the morning, mostly in the same place...and in one piece.
I don't know, personally I shudder to see something like that.