The Age of Aquarius meets Eternal September - marriage made in heaven. Now I can hate 2 birds with one stone. HuffPo is home to the timeless Deepak Chopra quote - "No skeptic, to my knowledge, ever made a major scientific discovery or advanced the welfare of others."
RexRhino:Every single law that the government makes, has similiar unintended consequences - because human behavior and society is so complex we can never truly predict how these things are going to work out.
"Ignorance is no excuse for a law" - who said that ?
wprowe: It seems like Microsoft could nearly single handedly kill SPAM just by fixing Windows. Am I dreaming or am I on the right track?
Dreaming ? yes. Right track ? Yes.
Anyone who survived the onslaught of Nimda and CodeRed will agree. These two ground the 'net to almost a complete halt *precisely* because of the volume of default, "everything on" Win2K installs that were out there. Precisely why an enduser workstation used as a wordprocesser needs to have all IIS services running has no justifiable answer. Its the same problem here - why do ma and pa at home need their smtp service on ?
Nothings gonna change while there are still animated help assistants to fine tune.
Why can't one of these cretins suggest the bleeding obvious. Prohibit the unsupervised use of the 'net by minors. Cheap: Cost to taxpayer/ISP/end user - nil (possible revenue source with fines). Simple: onus on the parents to actually be parents - zero administration and maintenance. Effective: its not our fault if you can't control your brats - so don't blame us.
Frrrp - more ashamed to be Australian by the day.
I used to work with Symantec, and I hear quite painfully where a lot of you are coming from. We used to call new software acquisitions the "Symantecization" process - where a new product is eaten, digested and excreted in a new, "improved" yellow box version. Usually in a broken way. Then commences the multi-year, multi-$million project to try and undo the damage done by product management in the re-branded launch. You can imagine what a nightmare this causes for the guys in support - so go easy on them. Their job is far harder than you imagine and the problems you folks experience are _not_ their fault. You want to yell at someone - yell at the sales reps, marketeers and product managers. The single biggest problem that I've seen is that each product team has their own GUI design people - none of whom speak with any of the other GUI designers. The result ? You have firewalls, IDS systems, network audit systems etc. that are all administrated via a browser console - each requiring its own build of Java and none of which are compatible with each other. I'm glad I left. Digging holes and carrying bricks is a far more enjoyable way to make a living.
And FYI, there _was_ a genuine Symantec created product -
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/n2000/n2000_ret/
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The Age of Aquarius meets Eternal September - marriage made in heaven. Now I can hate 2 birds with one stone. HuffPo is home to the timeless Deepak Chopra quote - "No skeptic, to my knowledge, ever made a major scientific discovery or advanced the welfare of others."
Australia isn't even on the map of anything I care about. Frrrp
> of products that they got arround to breaking.
Wrong. Ghost was from Binary Research, a New Zealand company
> Actually as far as I can tell Symantec hasn't
> actually ever made a product at all.
They actually have - Norton 2000. It saved the planet from the Y2K apocalypse. Be grateful. Grovel in awe. Kiss their sneakers.
> I'd find it very hard to imagine a company
> that has done nothing but destroy every piece
> of intelectual property it aquires
Its called "Symantecization".
> and continues to make money. Unfortunately I've seen it...
Their shares are in the toilet. Veritas was too big a bite to swallow.
One word - Mossad. They're not fussy, anything, anytime.
Frrrp
RexRhino: Every single law that the government makes, has similiar unintended consequences - because human behavior and society is so complex we can never truly predict how these things are going to work out.
"Ignorance is no excuse for a law" - who said that ?
wprowe: It seems like Microsoft could nearly single handedly kill SPAM just by fixing Windows. Am I dreaming or am I on the right track?
Dreaming ? yes. Right track ? Yes.
Anyone who survived the onslaught of Nimda and CodeRed will agree. These two ground the 'net to almost a complete halt *precisely* because of the volume of default, "everything on" Win2K installs that were out there. Precisely why an enduser workstation used as a wordprocesser needs to have all IIS services running has no justifiable answer. Its the same problem here - why do ma and pa at home need their smtp service on ?
Nothings gonna change while there are still animated help assistants to fine tune.
Frrrp
Why can't one of these cretins suggest the bleeding obvious. Prohibit the unsupervised use of the 'net by minors. Cheap: Cost to taxpayer/ISP/end user - nil (possible revenue source with fines). Simple: onus on the parents to actually be parents - zero administration and maintenance. Effective: its not our fault if you can't control your brats - so don't blame us. Frrrp - more ashamed to be Australian by the day.
I used to work with Symantec, and I hear quite painfully where a lot of you are coming from. We used to call new software acquisitions the "Symantecization" process - where a new product is eaten, digested and excreted in a new, "improved" yellow box version. Usually in a broken way. Then commences the multi-year, multi-$million project to try and undo the damage done by product management in the re-branded launch. You can imagine what a nightmare this causes for the guys in support - so go easy on them. Their job is far harder than you imagine and the problems you folks experience are _not_ their fault. You want to yell at someone - yell at the sales reps, marketeers and product managers. The single biggest problem that I've seen is that each product team has their own GUI design people - none of whom speak with any of the other GUI designers. The result ? You have firewalls, IDS systems, network audit systems etc. that are all administrated via a browser console - each requiring its own build of Java and none of which are compatible with each other. I'm glad I left. Digging holes and carrying bricks is a far more enjoyable way to make a living. And FYI, there _was_ a genuine Symantec created product - http://www.symantec.com/sabu/n2000/n2000_ret/