Your opponent is smarter than you.Throwing insults at someone else wiser only makes idiots more laughable.
P.S. your website does not show up on my firefox. It must have been configured with MS-exclusive support. Windows 2003 Server, how pathetic.
"The US jurisdiction over ICANN" is challenged here because of the e360 v Spamhaus case. As other posts have already pointed out, UN is more suitable to be the governing body of ICANN, just as it's the governing body of WHO and ITU. Therefore, your argument that no country's jurisdiction is better than the US is in itself MISLEADING, as we all know, the UN is not a country.
I might have been wrong in calling you a spin doctor because you could be unconciously misleading the topic. But again, substitute the true subject with a fake one is what spin doctors usually do.
The fact no country's leagal system is perfect doesn't mean we have to accept the US as the world's supreme court. The US has demonstrated numerous times that it cares very little about people in other countries other than its own interest. Afghanistan, Iraq and Kyoto Protocol are just recent examples.
Some might say that's what the adminstrative branch has done. According to the US Constitution, jurisdiction is an independent branch. True, but only to the extent that the president allows it. Guantanamo Detainees, anyone?
As for "SINGLE, HIGHLY UNRELIABLE", the Bible is THE most accurate historical document of its time.
Even if it was ture, that's because all other accurate historical documents in the west were distroyed by the Christians in the mideval times. Fortunately, there are other parts of the world, where the church do not have dominance as they did in the Europe. Other nation's historical texts invariably have their own accounts of history, which is VERY different from the Bible. That's inconvenient truth to Christians. Sadly, they just ignore it and keep claiming what have been disproven numerous times before. If you keep the faith to yourself, I'm fine with it. But please don't temper with the facts.
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The two political bodies still don't see each other legally representing China. Territories in both constitutions overlap, if not identical. The citizens cannot travel to the opposite area by passport like most countries do. They need special arrangement. PRC issues Taiwanese Citizen Certificates to citizens from ROC. ROC issues Entry to Taiwan Certificates. These are the only legal travel documents if either people want to enter the other side. Note, the travel document issued by ROC is not called Entry to ROC Certificate, because mainland is legally also part of ROC. Taiwan, by ROC's own definition, is just the name of a region, not a country.
Legally, the civil war in the 40s has not finished yet. Neither side of the war has been eliminated. No treaty or cease-fire agreement was signed. Both sides just prefer not to fight for now.
This situation is very complicated. Indeed, it's getting more complicated as more political powers want to get involved in it. I think the best way to resolve it is to leave it to the Chinese people of both sides to sit down and talk. Any open foreign involvement and provocation from the Taiwan Independence side will risk a full-blown war in the region.
You should try it sometime it can be loads of fun.
Will try it later.
...adding democratic to the name because as I mentioned above I am some form of monkey..
No problem, mate. Me too.:)
Thanks for adding to the discussion, but I didn't cover any of the facts you're claiming I'm casual about.
Agreed. That should've been another post. But, hey, I'm just too lazy to be a karma whore.
Seriously, by the last sentence of my previous post, I meant the moderators too. On Slashdot, it seems to be the norm that people don't check the facts when they post. Specifically, I was really annoyed by someone called himself "Darkman, Walkin Dude", who pretends I-know-it-all but turned out to be a fuckwit. If you check the thread below, you know what I mean.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186932&thresho ld=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=15426830
No point starting a flame war on this issue on Slashdot.
Let's hope this issue will be resolved by ourselves. I, for one, welcome political parties in Taiwan back to mainland to takeover the regime. But it seems they're currently only interested in fighting one another on this Taiwan Independence issue.
There isn't a country in this world called Democratic Peoples Republic of China. The 1.3 billion population live in a country called PRC(People's Republic of China).
ROC used to rule the whole China, mainland and Taiwan combined. They lost the civil war in 1949 and retreated to Taiwan. Neither PRC nor ROC see each other as a ligitimate government of China. At least both constitutions claim largely overlapping territories. It's a stalemale over half a century.
How people are so casual about the facts is beyond me.
What car do you drive? Will you boycott GM too? They recently laid off a lot of workers at their Vauxhaul factory near Liverpool. And perhaps Peogeut too. They are doing what Lenovo is doing.
As a consumer, you are free to vote with your money. But this is globalization, I'm afraid. Individual companies are not the one to blame. They have to make a profit for their shareholders. It is the government's job to keep the competitive edge of UK industries.
BTW, by choosing Lenovo's competitors, you probably don't mind paying Windows tax, do you? Even though you're using Linux, right?
I'd rather view the decisions purely from a business perspective.
Unlike in the 70s, there're more and more things over which the government has no control, Lenovo being one. A lot of people think Lenovo is a government controlled company and that's why they bought IBM's PC business. The truth is, however, if Lenovo had been such a company, it wouldn't have stood a chance in competition against rivals such as Dell and HP. The bureaucracy alone would have killed it. They've got to have a hell of business sense to become what they are today.
On the issue of Linux on their PCs, I don't think that's IBM's influence either. They might have been the first major (local) brand to sell PCs preloaded with Linux in the world. Here's a news page in Chinese.
http://news.chinabyte.com/395/1246395.shtml Note the date was 20/06/2000.
But again, they've probably been the largest OEM customer of Microsoft in China and hence contributes to MS China's revenue more than anyone else. There must have been a lot of pressure from MS to keep them away from Linux (Hint: pricing of their OEM Windows).
Sure, IBM gives a big push behind Linux. But they've SOLD the PC business to Lenovo anyway. They don't pay Lenovo executives wages. The previleges and responsibilities in regard to the IBM PC brand have been written on the contracts, memos and leagal documents on the day of acqusition. What influence does IBM still have over Lenovo?
Whether Lenovo is pro-linux or against it, that's Lenovo's own decision, and they make that decision purely on a business basis.
If you leave your Win98SE running for a day or two, without doing any real work on it, it will get very slow in response. The OS gradually eats up all the memory until it shows you the BSOD. It's a common knowledge that pre-2000 Windows have serious memory leak in the OS. The faster your PC is, the sooner it shows you BSOD.
IMHO, a regularly patched Win2k with a decent firewall is a far better choice than obscure(to worms) Win98SE if you want your system to be stable and secure. And needless to say, on slashdot, Linux is even better.
Couldn't agree more. Diversity of a language is normally a result of its popularity. Internationally, we have Indian English, Malasian English, Japanese English and Chinglish^_^, to name but a few. Even here in England, the Brits alone have numerous accents. My girlfriend, who's also a Chinese, once told me the reaction of her English colleague when she used the idiom "raining cats and dogs", which she learned back in China. He was very surprised and told my GF, "that's a decades old saying, nobody still uses it nowadays."
Guess that is another example. Language is indeed a living thing.
The English language has only been gaining its popularity in the past few hundred years since Chaucer and Shakespear. The Chinese, however, has been spreading over the continent and its surrounding isles since the Qin dynasty, 221B.C. The aformentioned universal writing system has been proven instrumental to keep the such a complex language relatively stable.
I'm sure it would appear on the Western press quicker if it's titled "Chinese mathematicians stole the proof of Poincare Conjecture from Perelman and Hamilton." And the slashdot comments on the article would probably double.
Be it Chinese mathematicians, Indian mathematicians, Russian, American, or French, who did the final work deserve the credit. All men/women are equal in the face of science. Perelman and Hamilton's work deserves credit too. Xinhua has acknowledged that in the article. So there's nobody stealing other's credit.
Why is there always people nitpicking the Chinese?
Fortunately, when it comes to writing, all the hundreds of dialects look basically no difference to each other. Hopefully it will make mastering the Chinese lanuage less a daunting task. (I know, I know, there're two writing systems, Simplified and Traditional. But if one knows how to write and read in Simplified Chinese, there's little difficulty to understand the Traditional version.)
Of course, lots of native speaker of Chinese make mistakes in grammar too. So it is a bit too harsh to require the GP like that. However, don't native English speakers do the same?
All the people in China itself who actually share that hope are in jail or under house arrest.
Not true.
China is not a monolithic country, not even during the Culture Revolution. Applying dichotomy to any society makes itself sound naive to me. According to your logic, the allies should kill off all the Germans that were not imprisoned by the Nazi, as they would have automatically supported Hitler and hence were just as evil as the regime.
I do believe there's more and more people in China sharing that hope. Democracy is not only a dream for China. It will be realized some day. However, struggling towards that dream is never an easy and straight forward process. It took even countries like German y many decades to achieve that since its economy took off in the late 19th century. China is much much bigger than Germany, and poorer too. Yet a lot of Chinese, me for one, are making it happen bit by bit.
I don't see how the attack to Chinese people here is going to do any good to that.
I'm not going to blame the Church for burning witches. I'm no expert in mideval history. On the technical side, you must be right. However, all I want to say is that the crime was committed at a time when religion dominated people's mind, and that religion, with the best intention in the world, did not prevent what had happened. In fact, the religious social atomosphere at that time had released what we call the worst part of human nature. Without enough rule of law, without adequate reasoning and sympathy being overwhelmed by fear, hatred and bigotry, men are no better than beasts.
You might say, it would possibly have happened anyway without religion. I can't disprove that as history can never be replayed, let alone corrected, (yet it always repeats itself).
As we know it, communism in the last century drove itself into a deadend. Yet there're still people arguing, that the atrocities took place under communist regimes were never the intention nor doctrine of Karl Marx's idealistic theory, and that had Stalin or Lenin never take the whelm of communist movement, the whole situation could have been different. They might have a point. But that amounts to nothing. In reality, communism had released the worst part of human nature. And there is no way back to change that.
I think the best thing these tragedies brought us, if any, is ways to prevent them from happening again. Mobilizing hatred against people has been declared crime in many countries. More people are aware of fearmongering politicians' hidden agenda. However, there're still countries with no effective rule of law. Even in Western Europe and North America, people still suffer from hatred crimes and political propagandas. Situations are conceivably worse in third-world countries.
Anyway, let's hope the world is changing for the better.
This is clearly a troll. Why didn't people even notice?
Just because there're relative few Chinese readers on Slashdot does not mean one can apply double-standards against the Chinese. Imagine if someone saying this before 1940s: "The Jewish don't deserve their own government because they lost it 2000 years ago.".
Disclaimer: I'm not against the Jewish people. The above is just an example to reveal the absurdity of double standard I see here.
Nothing is rather a strong word, and I think demonstrably false.
So is the word stop. If you read it again: It does nothing to stop crime nor prevents society as whole from doing horrible things to other people even with the anger of god and damnation hanging over their head.
I think what the GP meant is that religions is not the ultimate cure for crime, which is proven by history. Among other ideologies, religion has its own side effects too. One of the side effect is it sometimes encourages the society to do horrible things against individuals, like witches, or other group of people, like Jewish, muslim. These tragedies happened before and they will happen again. I'm not to say any particular religion is wrong. It is human natural that happened to utilized it in doing horrible things.
Witches were executed not for devil worship, but for causing harm to others. The devil worship was a lurid sidenote.
You're right. Devil worship was just an excuse. The fundamental cause is fear, fear of being harmed by "witches". Fear is a very powerful human emotion. It easily overcomes the rational part of us. And religion at that time only just happened to provide something for the villagers to believe what they were doing was right despite the absence of hard evidence.
"Flying planes into buildings.... Blowing your self up in a crowded market in the name of your god."
I'm not aware of any Jews or Christians doing those things, although of course it's possible.
I think what the GP wants to say is not Judeo-Christian but Abrahamic religion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion Surprisingly, Judaism, Christianity and Islam came from the same root.
BTW, the GP shouldn't be modded as flambait, but insightful.
The underlying reason is the form factor and power consumption.
It is too small for the PSU to shrink into it. The 5w power consumption hardly justifies a dedicate pair of DC wires either. So the best solution to this is piggybacking via Power Over Ethernet, which is not always provided in a office environment. The DC connector is a kludge, but like other trade-off for compatibility reasons, as a product, it has to be practical for the user to accept it.
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Come on, moderators. How was this mod'ed insightful?
Even if it's not biased stereotyping, the dispute over Taiwan's political status has nothing to do with scientific discoveries.
Your opponent is smarter than you.Throwing insults at someone else wiser only makes idiots more laughable.
P.S. your website does not show up on my firefox. It must have been configured with MS-exclusive support. Windows 2003 Server, how pathetic.
"The US jurisdiction over ICANN" is challenged here because of the e360 v Spamhaus case. As other posts have already pointed out, UN is more suitable to be the governing body of ICANN, just as it's the governing body of WHO and ITU. Therefore, your argument that no country's jurisdiction is better than the US is in itself MISLEADING, as we all know, the UN is not a country. I might have been wrong in calling you a spin doctor because you could be unconciously misleading the topic. But again, substitute the true subject with a fake one is what spin doctors usually do.
The fact no country's leagal system is perfect doesn't mean we have to accept the US as the world's supreme court. The US has demonstrated numerous times that it cares very little about people in other countries other than its own interest. Afghanistan, Iraq and Kyoto Protocol are just recent examples.
Some might say that's what the adminstrative branch has done. According to the US Constitution, jurisdiction is an independent branch. True, but only to the extent that the president allows it. Guantanamo Detainees, anyone?
Legally, the civil war in the 40s has not finished yet. Neither side of the war has been eliminated. No treaty or cease-fire agreement was signed. Both sides just prefer not to fight for now.
This situation is very complicated. Indeed, it's getting more complicated as more political powers want to get involved in it. I think the best way to resolve it is to leave it to the Chinese people of both sides to sit down and talk. Any open foreign involvement and provocation from the Taiwan Independence side will risk a full-blown war in the region.
Will try it later.
No problem, mate. Me too. :)
Thanks for adding to the discussion, but I didn't cover any of the facts you're claiming I'm casual about.
Agreed. That should've been another post. But, hey, I'm just too lazy to be a karma whore.
Seriously, by the last sentence of my previous post, I meant the moderators too. On Slashdot, it seems to be the norm that people don't check the facts when they post. Specifically, I was really annoyed by someone called himself "Darkman, Walkin Dude", who pretends I-know-it-all but turned out to be a fuckwit. If you check the thread below, you know what I mean. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186932&thresho ld=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=15426830
Let's hope this issue will be resolved by ourselves. I, for one, welcome political parties in Taiwan back to mainland to takeover the regime. But it seems they're currently only interested in fighting one another on this Taiwan Independence issue.
ROC used to rule the whole China, mainland and Taiwan combined. They lost the civil war in 1949 and retreated to Taiwan. Neither PRC nor ROC see each other as a ligitimate government of China. At least both constitutions claim largely overlapping territories. It's a stalemale over half a century.
How people are so casual about the facts is beyond me.
As a consumer, you are free to vote with your money. But this is globalization, I'm afraid. Individual companies are not the one to blame. They have to make a profit for their shareholders. It is the government's job to keep the competitive edge of UK industries.
BTW, by choosing Lenovo's competitors, you probably don't mind paying Windows tax, do you? Even though you're using Linux, right?
Unlike in the 70s, there're more and more things over which the government has no control, Lenovo being one. A lot of people think Lenovo is a government controlled company and that's why they bought IBM's PC business. The truth is, however, if Lenovo had been such a company, it wouldn't have stood a chance in competition against rivals such as Dell and HP. The bureaucracy alone would have killed it. They've got to have a hell of business sense to become what they are today.
On the issue of Linux on their PCs, I don't think that's IBM's influence either. They might have been the first major (local) brand to sell PCs preloaded with Linux in the world. Here's a news page in Chinese. http://news.chinabyte.com/395/1246395.shtml Note the date was 20/06/2000.
But again, they've probably been the largest OEM customer of Microsoft in China and hence contributes to MS China's revenue more than anyone else. There must have been a lot of pressure from MS to keep them away from Linux (Hint: pricing of their OEM Windows).
Sure, IBM gives a big push behind Linux. But they've SOLD the PC business to Lenovo anyway. They don't pay Lenovo executives wages. The previleges and responsibilities in regard to the IBM PC brand have been written on the contracts, memos and leagal documents on the day of acqusition. What influence does IBM still have over Lenovo?
Whether Lenovo is pro-linux or against it, that's Lenovo's own decision, and they make that decision purely on a business basis.
IMHO, a regularly patched Win2k with a decent firewall is a far better choice than obscure(to worms) Win98SE if you want your system to be stable and secure. And needless to say, on slashdot, Linux is even better.
If you had been in China before, say the 70s, 80s, or even just 2 years ago, you'd wonder how much it changed now.
I should've googled it before posting.
Shouldn't the next generation called IPv8? We don't have an IPv5 in between IPv4 and IPv6, do we?
Guess that is another example. Language is indeed a living thing.
The English language has only been gaining its popularity in the past few hundred years since Chaucer and Shakespear. The Chinese, however, has been spreading over the continent and its surrounding isles since the Qin dynasty, 221B.C. The aformentioned universal writing system has been proven instrumental to keep the such a complex language relatively stable.
Why is there always people nitpicking the Chinese?
Of course, lots of native speaker of Chinese make mistakes in grammar too. So it is a bit too harsh to require the GP like that. However, don't native English speakers do the same?
Maybe to you, that is a joke, but it isn't funny to the victims.
Not true.
China is not a monolithic country, not even during the Culture Revolution. Applying dichotomy to any society makes itself sound naive to me. According to your logic, the allies should kill off all the Germans that were not imprisoned by the Nazi, as they would have automatically supported Hitler and hence were just as evil as the regime.
I do believe there's more and more people in China sharing that hope. Democracy is not only a dream for China. It will be realized some day. However, struggling towards that dream is never an easy and straight forward process. It took even countries like German y many decades to achieve that since its economy took off in the late 19th century. China is much much bigger than Germany, and poorer too. Yet a lot of Chinese, me for one, are making it happen bit by bit.
I don't see how the attack to Chinese people here is going to do any good to that.
As we know it, communism in the last century drove itself into a deadend. Yet there're still people arguing, that the atrocities took place under communist regimes were never the intention nor doctrine of Karl Marx's idealistic theory, and that had Stalin or Lenin never take the whelm of communist movement, the whole situation could have been different. They might have a point. But that amounts to nothing. In reality, communism had released the worst part of human nature. And there is no way back to change that.
I think the best thing these tragedies brought us, if any, is ways to prevent them from happening again. Mobilizing hatred against people has been declared crime in many countries. More people are aware of fearmongering politicians' hidden agenda. However, there're still countries with no effective rule of law. Even in Western Europe and North America, people still suffer from hatred crimes and political propagandas. Situations are conceivably worse in third-world countries.
Anyway, let's hope the world is changing for the better.
Just because there're relative few Chinese readers on Slashdot does not mean one can apply double-standards against the Chinese. Imagine if someone saying this before 1940s:
"The Jewish don't deserve their own government because they lost it 2000 years ago.".
Disclaimer: I'm not against the Jewish people. The above is just an example to reveal the absurdity of double standard I see here.
So is the word stop. If you read it again:
It does nothing to stop crime nor prevents society as whole from doing horrible things to other people even with the anger of god and damnation hanging over their head.
I think what the GP meant is that religions is not the ultimate cure for crime, which is proven by history. Among other ideologies, religion has its own side effects too. One of the side effect is it sometimes encourages the society to do horrible things against individuals, like witches, or other group of people, like Jewish, muslim. These tragedies happened before and they will happen again. I'm not to say any particular religion is wrong. It is human natural that happened to utilized it in doing horrible things.
Witches were executed not for devil worship, but for causing harm to others. The devil worship was a lurid sidenote.
You're right. Devil worship was just an excuse. The fundamental cause is fear, fear of being harmed by "witches". Fear is a very powerful human emotion. It easily overcomes the rational part of us. And religion at that time only just happened to provide something for the villagers to believe what they were doing was right despite the absence of hard evidence.
"Flying planes into buildings.... Blowing your self up in a crowded market in the name of your god."
I'm not aware of any Jews or Christians doing those things, although of course it's possible.
I think what the GP wants to say is not Judeo-Christian but Abrahamic religion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion Surprisingly, Judaism, Christianity and Islam came from the same root.
BTW, the GP shouldn't be modded as flambait, but insightful.
It is too small for the PSU to shrink into it. The 5w power consumption hardly justifies a dedicate pair of DC wires either. So the best solution to this is piggybacking via Power Over Ethernet, which is not always provided in a office environment. The DC connector is a kludge, but like other trade-off for compatibility reasons, as a product, it has to be practical for the user to accept it.