With Win 7 Phone, it appears that MS is imposing more conditions to make Win 7 Phones more consistent. That can't be looked favorably upon by manufacturers.
Eh, maybe, maybe not. Consider that consistency is a big strength of the iPhone at this point and it's (while a strength in other ways) a weakness in Android. That is, that as someone developint for the Android platform it's hard to be sure what kind of hardware, OS version, etc. you can expect -- probably you have to plan to support 'all of the above' in every case.
I agree, although probably not more than a few of them have enough of an audience to make the kind of highish-budget-to-do-halfway-right shows we're talking about.
I mean, I know some people looooove the old-school-BBC style of "let's take a story that should be made with a real budget and make the thing for 100 euros and half a can of Spaghetti-Os instead" shows, but to most American audiences, including myself, they're barely watchable at best.
It's too much to give Elop credit for Office's success, but I don't think you give Office enough credit for Office's success.
Even would-be competitors that can more or less flawlessly interact with its file types are still really no competition for it. And sure, a lot of that is inertia, and each new iteration may not add features that you care about, but spend some time down in the trenches doing work for/with business users who basically live in Office and I think you get a different picture. 95%+ of the features of Office are wasted on each of them, and yet, in the other 1-5% is something that competitors aren't providing and they won't live without.
Sometimes a thing doesn't even have to be good to be the best.
I pretty much agree -- I don't see how you could really do Dark Tower (or as much of it as I read... I fell off when he stopped writing them for a while and haven't gotten around to going back yet) justice on normal TV.
Probably a HBO series setup like A Game of Thrones is getting would be the best fit.
Maybe Nokia's hoping to move in more of a business direction and eat up Blackberry's market?
Elop comes from Office, which is about as close to a license to print money as you can get in the Office world. Clearly he knows something about managing a product that the business world will want. Cue a handful of people who are convinced that any day now Google Docs or OO will finally make real headway against Office in much the same way that Cubs fans are convinced that this will be their year in the World Series, but seriously -- even if Office somehow went down in flames today, it's still enjoyed utter dominance of its market for, what, 15 years? I'm sure if Nokia ended up with only that kind of dominance over business smartphones out of this move (and I don't think they will, but for the sake of argument... ) they'd be happy with it.
The other reason is that Windows still doesn't include an easy point-and-click tool to make a jail in which to run an untrusted app. If Windows had this, people wouldn't have to spend 29 EUR on Sandboxie.
Useless, in this case. The people who fall prey to a virus like that won't be technical enough to do that (even with an easy point and click tool) after another 20 years of using computers, much less now.
It's not the exact same thing because an Android device isn't locked down the way an iWhatever is. Your options with an Android device aren't limited solely to jailbreak or official app store.
People do bitch about Google spying on them, so it's not like the company gets a free pass.
If Apple doesn't want people to talk about their software police, maybe they shouldn't have software police.:)
I mean, hell, not America, but I've heard there are countries where people actually feel like police are there to protect and help them. Just as Apple fans presumably feel about the policing of apps in the app store. "Police" doesn't inherently imply "police state".
You're going under the assumption that the only form of software cheating possible involves game logic that's on the client and shouldn't be. That isn't the case. For example, aimbots.
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With Win 7 Phone, it appears that MS is imposing more conditions to make Win 7 Phones more consistent. That can't be looked favorably upon by manufacturers.
Eh, maybe, maybe not. Consider that consistency is a big strength of the iPhone at this point and it's (while a strength in other ways) a weakness in Android. That is, that as someone developint for the Android platform it's hard to be sure what kind of hardware, OS version, etc. you can expect -- probably you have to plan to support 'all of the above' in every case.
It'd be polite to not reply to posts you're not either well read or intelligent enough to follow.
I assume you think you did, but, no.
This sort of licence will start to fade as more and more Open Source projects attain "enterprise quality".
I would prefer the world in which your statement is correct, but I don't think we live in that one.
To use this case/article as an example, we're a long, long, long way of from a FOSS replacement of AutoCAD.
Well you don't seem to mind using products that were made in factories where those workers worked.
You know what they say about assuming...
I feel like I end up saying this a lot on Slashdot, but you do know Atlas Shrugged is a work of fiction, right?
So you rather kill them than letting them decide what conditions they would work under. Gotcha
Nope. Was it really that hard to read my whole two sentence post?
I'd rather kill some of them than let them decide what conditions we would work under.
Instead of responding with cries of exploitation, as yourself this: could he be right?
If working people so hard they start killing themselves is right, sign me up for wrong.
I'm not a fan of imperialism but I'd actually rather America try to conquer China than emulate it if push came to shove.
I agree, although probably not more than a few of them have enough of an audience to make the kind of highish-budget-to-do-halfway-right shows we're talking about.
I mean, I know some people looooove the old-school-BBC style of "let's take a story that should be made with a real budget and make the thing for 100 euros and half a can of Spaghetti-Os instead" shows, but to most American audiences, including myself, they're barely watchable at best.
It's too much to give Elop credit for Office's success, but I don't think you give Office enough credit for Office's success.
Even would-be competitors that can more or less flawlessly interact with its file types are still really no competition for it. And sure, a lot of that is inertia, and each new iteration may not add features that you care about, but spend some time down in the trenches doing work for/with business users who basically live in Office and I think you get a different picture. 95%+ of the features of Office are wasted on each of them, and yet, in the other 1-5% is something that competitors aren't providing and they won't live without.
Sometimes a thing doesn't even have to be good to be the best.
Well, sometimes you actually can get a good answer out of Yahoo Answers, and most of the rest of the time, yeah, it's comedy gold.
Either way, you can't lose!
Google prides itself on wasting less of our time, while Facebook prides itself on wasting more of it.
Google Search, sure. But Gmail or YouTube?
Who the #%&$ still uses yahoo?
For search, probably not a lot of people.
On the other hand, one of my fantasy football leagues is on Yahoo, and Yahoo Answers is pretty solid.
You can write programs for OS X for free too. That would be the correct comparison.
Nah. His analogy used two platforms that actually have some market share. :P
I pretty much agree -- I don't see how you could really do Dark Tower (or as much of it as I read... I fell off when he stopped writing them for a while and haven't gotten around to going back yet) justice on normal TV.
Probably a HBO series setup like A Game of Thrones is getting would be the best fit.
It's possible to both hate Flash and realize that a lot of things you want still require it.
(And, possibly, that there isn't a better alternative technology in some cases. I said some cases, HTML5-is-the-answer-to-all-things-video partisans.)
I agree with pretty much all of that. It'll be interesting to see for sure.
On the other hand MS Office as software is very bloated and inelegant.
On the other other hand, Office enjoys ridiculous market share and makes a staggering amount of money.
I wonder which of those things would be more important to a corporation.
Maybe Nokia's hoping to move in more of a business direction and eat up Blackberry's market?
Elop comes from Office, which is about as close to a license to print money as you can get in the Office world. Clearly he knows something about managing a product that the business world will want. Cue a handful of people who are convinced that any day now Google Docs or OO will finally make real headway against Office in much the same way that Cubs fans are convinced that this will be their year in the World Series, but seriously -- even if Office somehow went down in flames today, it's still enjoyed utter dominance of its market for, what, 15 years? I'm sure if Nokia ended up with only that kind of dominance over business smartphones out of this move (and I don't think they will, but for the sake of argument... ) they'd be happy with it.
You mean they haven't learned to stop using Outlook?
In the business world, there still isn't a replacement for it that's good enough.
It's sad, but, there it is.
The other reason is that Windows still doesn't include an easy point-and-click tool to make a jail in which to run an untrusted app. If Windows had this, people wouldn't have to spend 29 EUR on Sandboxie.
Useless, in this case. The people who fall prey to a virus like that won't be technical enough to do that (even with an easy point and click tool) after another 20 years of using computers, much less now.
It's not the exact same thing because an Android device isn't locked down the way an iWhatever is. Your options with an Android device aren't limited solely to jailbreak or official app store.
People do bitch about Google spying on them, so it's not like the company gets a free pass.
If Apple doesn't want people to talk about their software police, maybe they shouldn't have software police. :)
I mean, hell, not America, but I've heard there are countries where people actually feel like police are there to protect and help them. Just as Apple fans presumably feel about the policing of apps in the app store. "Police" doesn't inherently imply "police state".
You're going under the assumption that the only form of software cheating possible involves game logic that's on the client and shouldn't be. That isn't the case. For example, aimbots.
I submit to you that the degree to which I am trolling does not exceed your own and probably is somewhat less.
Unless you actually believe what you've written in this thread, in which case I genuinely feel sorry for you.
What's refreshing to see is a company that actually admits it was wrong, how often does that happen?
If you think Apple does so more than other companies in its industry, you are drowning in the Kool-Aid.
Obligatory Penny Arcade. Except probably swap from to to.