i am boggled at the ignorance of people anymore. it's scary what the educational systems have done to people... they have tricked them into thinking they have foundation to think.
1. what purpose is their in mocking Christianity or those that believe in it, or the "End Times"? do "you people" really think you know so much as to know the essentials of Christianity are false or silly? do "you people" really think "evolution" is science? here's some education for you "science types": evolution is the most insane "belief system" there is - and it was taught to you for a reason - despite the fact that there are no facts to support it. no one has ever seen a dog give birth to a cat or butterfly. yes, there are variations between species, but those that "believe" in the "evolution religion" have no evidence at all that variations lead to new species. furthermore, most all, if not all, genetic mutations are for the worse. furthermore, there are no records of "missing links" - they remain missing, and the reasonable conclusion is that they don't exist. species are distinctly different from one another - despite any similarities - and there are no fossil records of "smooth transitions". furthermore, genetics is in a state of devolution - the errors that get encoded over generations build up over time - all species are headed for extinction sooner or later - DNA never overcame entropy. it's like copying one floppy disk to another - sooner or later, errors will build up - and it is doubtful that the 100,000th copy of a copy will have contain "E=mc2" when the first floppy only contained 2+2=4.
a) it is not reasonable to assume that every species "evolved" - 1st you'd have to "believe" that genetic mutations can actually benefit an animal beyond the rest that did not mutate - do you have any evidence that this is possible? all genetic mutations i have ever seen and know of have been detrimental to the animals functionality/survivability.
b) 2nd, you'd have to "believe" that both a male and female of a species mutated into a new species at or about the same time, and in the same area - so there could be sex/offspring to carry on the mutation.
c) 3rd, you'd have to "believe" that brothers and sisters could have sex and create a new lineage of the mutated species without the birth defects of this new incestual lineage ending the lineage.
d) 4th, you'd have to believe that DNA is evolving, when science and data clearly show DNA is devolving and building up with errors over time.
2) people always blame "religions" as the cause of the most death/war on earth - but if you dig a bit deeper - you will find that the root is people that "follow" and can't think things thru for themselves.
3) i see the term "fossil fuel" used everywhere - which is one of the most ridiculous terms i ever heard - do "you people" really think the zillions of barrels of oil on earth are from "fossils"??? what a joke. there's oil over a dozen miles deep in the earth - beneath solid bedrock miles deep - and who knows just how deep the oil goes... the point is - this is all "belief" - not fact, not even good theoretical science. you just digest whatever BigOil propaganda that is thrown your way without critical thinking.
4) all this blabber about "global warming" and "Kyoto" and "emissions" and "scientists" only goes to show how "you people" are locked into stupified indoctrinated paradigms that go nowhere. social structures are pyramidal in design - and those at the top control what you see, read, and hear; and it's all nonsense. "free energy" has been around for a long time, and as long as "you people" bicker about stupid nonsense - the people that develop it will keep getting murdered by those at or near the capstone of our social pyramid.
5) America "going down" is a fact - and it has to do with the fact that those at or near the capstone of our social structure on earth (the banksters, old european royalty, global corporate monopolists) have to do these things to any people that get too smart, too ad
Actually, it's a fundamental point of "epistemology" - for those of us who are
illiterate and need correct spelling to
look up and determine the meaning of
such highbrow wordings.
>This sure as hell isnt a hacker-type forum. This place is a "Windows Hater" forum. All people do is monger about how Linux will rescue us from the evils of properitary software, while many of us fawn over the same damned lockin of Apple's OSX. If any category hit this place, it's full of hipocrites.
http://bsd.slashdot.org
1. This is supposed to be a BSD forum.
not a "Windows Hater" forum, nor a Linux forum. BSD's
have never held the acquirement of the MS Windows user
base as a goal. The goal is/was simply to create the best
system; organized, segmented, trim, well thought out, and
speedy.
2. Linux people may monger about
rescues, BSD people tend to work on solving problems which
is why BSD forums tend to be sparse - we got better things
to do then "monger" and "fawn". BSD people (more so in
the past) were, in general, people involved in the "full
use and exploitation of talents, capacities, potentialities,
etc..", a process of self-actualization. Their goals
weren't based upon petty grievances with MS or socialist
agendas; but simple goals of engineering quality.
3. I don't even know why Linux posters
are allowed here. I'd rather see http://bsd.slashdot.org
empty (a good sign that BSD developers are hard at work).
Linux posts should be considered way off topic. When I
come to a BSD forum, I'd like to see the classic hacker
intelligence BSD developers are known for, or nothing at
all. If I wanted to read the rants and ravings of Linux
kiddies, I'd go to http://www.peewee.com, not
http://bsd.slashdot.org.
The only reason I bothered to post is because I am getting tired of checking out Slashdots BSD section, only to find Linux kiddies on a consistent and overwhelming basis, particularly the "BSD is dead" garbage. It's a turn off to anyone with any maturity at all, and is a deterrent to intelligent discussion.
>Unix printing is simple with decent printers that support PS. Just try getting these winprinters to print using this same subsystem. You'll spend at least 5 days figuring out the correct filterset to run it through, if you can do it at all.
I wouldn't buy a "WinPrinter". And anyone that does is only casting their consumer vote for such devices. That's why BSD's don't support "WinModems" and "WinPrinters". They are intelligent enough to understand that you don't vote for things you don't like - or you will get more of it.
In general, the "smart thing" to do is to research OS hardware support BEFORE buying a device, not AFTER.
Linux people want WinThis and WinThat because they want to compete with MicroSoft. BSD people don't. They aren't interested in being "a better monopoly". BSD people just want a good OS. That's historically been their agenda.
>>UNIX printing has been utterly simplistic for years.
>Cheap printers means the computer has to take control of more. But since you're a master haxx0r, I'll spare telling you why.
Thank you. But do tell me how you can have knowledge of bad engineering, and yet willingly participate in it's promotion - only to then complain.
It's somewhat akin to the saying: "if you were conservative in your 20's, you didn't have enough fun; and if you were a liberal in your 30's, you didn't have enough brain cells".
Linux is for 20 year old hackers. BSD is for hackers 30+.
>It's people like you that don't want easy configurations for the end-user to use. It's what's wholding back Linux from popular usage.
Yes, "Insightful", 5 points. BSD people don't care about "popular usage". We care about integrity and quality. That's all. We are happy MS provides an OS for the McDonalds and CompUSA t
That's sad.... (Score:5, Interesting)
The best way to print anything now is using
CUPS. Easy to set up and administer. Who
WOULDNT want to use it?
When this is a 4?
Re:That's sad.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Your post is so typical of what I see on
Slashdot these days...
The first comment was totally stupid with no substance or relevance, and should be a -1 or less. The second comment was very substantive and intelligent and deserves a book of deep thought and commentary.
It exposes a small symptom in the technology arena that appears to be on the rise throughout society; the result of turning spankings into "time-outs", republics into "democracies", and individualism into "collectivism". A symptom of teachers that are ignorant of their subjects, kids that use calculators to do basic math, and graduates that get diplomas for purposes of self-esteem. A symptom of the feminization of men, the masculation of women, the reverence of followers and distain for individual success.
Most every post (given that this is a hacker type forum) is a display of ignorance with a promotional cover, and/or a whiny complaint. UNIX printing is as simple as could be. No one needs CUPS or 'apsfilter' or any of it. Just how hard is it to pipe as necessary into 'gs', directing output into a printer device?
With 'jpeg2ps', 'gs', and a few lines of awk anyone can print JPEG's, PS/EPS/PDF, DOS(CRLF), UNIX(LF) files, and more. And if you have a good PS printer, you don't even need the 'gs'. Any decent software package that needs to print can print PS.
A few lines of awk can do everything all these programs can do (and more):/usr/bin/lp/usr/bin/lpq/usr/bin/lpr/usr/bin/lprm/usr/sbin/lpc/usr/sbin/lpd/etc/printcap/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf
You can even have your script page number text files, etc. When I set up a system for printing, I need to change one 'gs' variable in an awk script, and that's it. What makes that so hard? UNIX printing has been utterly simplistic for years.
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i am boggled at the ignorance of people anymore. it's scary what the educational systems have done to people ... they have tricked them into thinking they have foundation to think.
1. what purpose is their in mocking Christianity or those that believe in it, or the "End Times"? do "you people" really think you know so much as to know the essentials of Christianity are false or silly? do "you people" really think "evolution" is science? here's some education for you "science types": evolution is the most insane "belief system" there is - and it was taught to you for a reason - despite the fact that there are no facts to support it. no one has ever seen a dog give birth to a cat or butterfly. yes, there are variations between species, but those that "believe" in the "evolution religion" have no evidence at all that variations lead to new species. furthermore, most all, if not all, genetic mutations are for the worse. furthermore, there are no records of "missing links" - they remain missing, and the reasonable conclusion is that they don't exist. species are distinctly different from one another - despite any similarities - and there are no fossil records of "smooth transitions". furthermore, genetics is in a state of devolution - the errors that get encoded over generations build up over time - all species are headed for extinction sooner or later - DNA never overcame entropy. it's like copying one floppy disk to another - sooner or later, errors will build up - and it is doubtful that the 100,000th copy of a copy will have contain "E=mc2" when the first floppy only contained 2+2=4.
a) it is not reasonable to assume that every species "evolved" - 1st you'd have to "believe" that genetic mutations can actually benefit an animal beyond the rest that did not mutate - do you have any evidence that this is possible? all genetic mutations i have ever seen and know of have been detrimental to the animals functionality/survivability.
b) 2nd, you'd have to "believe" that both a male and female of a species mutated into a new species at or about the same time, and in the same area - so there could be sex/offspring to carry on the mutation.
c) 3rd, you'd have to "believe" that brothers and sisters could have sex and create a new lineage of the mutated species without the birth defects of this new incestual lineage ending the lineage.
d) 4th, you'd have to believe that DNA is evolving, when science and data clearly show DNA is devolving and building up with errors over time.
2) people always blame "religions" as the cause of the most death/war on earth - but if you dig a bit deeper - you will find that the root is people that "follow" and can't think things thru for themselves.
3) i see the term "fossil fuel" used everywhere - which is one of the most ridiculous terms i ever heard - do "you people" really think the zillions of barrels of oil on earth are from "fossils"??? what a joke. there's oil over a dozen miles deep in the earth - beneath solid bedrock miles deep - and who knows just how deep the oil goes ... the point is - this is all "belief" - not fact, not even good theoretical science. you just digest whatever BigOil propaganda that is thrown your way without critical thinking.
4) all this blabber about "global warming" and "Kyoto" and "emissions" and "scientists" only goes to show how "you people" are locked into stupified indoctrinated paradigms that go nowhere. social structures are pyramidal in design - and those at the top control what you see, read, and hear; and it's all nonsense. "free energy" has been around for a long time, and as long as "you people" bicker about stupid nonsense - the people that develop it will keep getting murdered by those at or near the capstone of our social pyramid.
5) America "going down" is a fact - and it has to do with the fact that those at or near the capstone of our social structure on earth (the banksters, old european royalty, global corporate monopolists) have to do these things to any people that get too smart, too ad
"This is a fundamental point of epistomology."
Actually, it's a fundamental point of
"epistemology" - for those of us who are
illiterate and need correct spelling to
look up and determine the meaning of
such highbrow wordings.
>Let me guess.. A liberal arts major?
you guess wrong.
>This sure as hell isnt a hacker-type forum. This place is
a "Windows Hater" forum. All people do is monger about how
Linux will rescue us from the evils of properitary software,
while many of us fawn over the same damned lockin of Apple's
OSX. If any category hit this place, it's full of hipocrites.
http://bsd.slashdot.org
1. This is supposed to be a BSD forum.
not a "Windows Hater" forum, nor a Linux forum. BSD's
have never held the acquirement of the MS Windows user
base as a goal. The goal is/was simply to create the best
system; organized, segmented, trim, well thought out, and
speedy.
2. Linux people may monger about
rescues, BSD people tend to work on solving problems which
is why BSD forums tend to be sparse - we got better things
to do then "monger" and "fawn". BSD people (more so in
the past) were, in general, people involved in the "full
use and exploitation of talents, capacities, potentialities,
etc..", a process of self-actualization. Their goals
weren't based upon petty grievances with MS or socialist
agendas; but simple goals of engineering quality.
3. I don't even know why Linux posters
are allowed here. I'd rather see http://bsd.slashdot.org
empty (a good sign that BSD developers are hard at work).
Linux posts should be considered way off topic. When I
come to a BSD forum, I'd like to see the classic hacker
intelligence BSD developers are known for, or nothing at
all. If I wanted to read the rants and ravings of Linux
kiddies, I'd go to http://www.peewee.com, not
http://bsd.slashdot.org.
The only reason I bothered to post is because I am getting
tired of checking out Slashdots BSD section, only to find Linux
kiddies on a consistent and overwhelming basis, particularly
the "BSD is dead" garbage. It's a turn off to anyone with any
maturity at all, and is a deterrent to intelligent discussion.
>Unix printing is simple with decent printers that support
PS. Just try getting these winprinters to print using this
same subsystem. You'll spend at least 5 days figuring out
the correct filterset to run it through, if you can do it
at all.
I wouldn't buy a "WinPrinter". And anyone that does is only
casting their consumer vote for such devices. That's why BSD's
don't support "WinModems" and "WinPrinters". They are intelligent
enough to understand that you don't vote for things you don't
like - or you will get more of it.
In general, the "smart thing" to do is to research OS hardware
support BEFORE buying a device, not AFTER.
Linux people want WinThis and WinThat because they want to
compete with MicroSoft. BSD people don't. They aren't
interested in being "a better monopoly". BSD people just want
a good OS. That's historically been their agenda.
>>UNIX printing has been utterly simplistic for years.
>Cheap printers means the computer has to take control of
more. But since you're a master haxx0r, I'll spare telling
you why.
Thank you. But do tell me how you can have knowledge of bad
engineering, and yet willingly participate in it's promotion
- only to then complain.
It's somewhat akin to the saying: "if you were conservative
in your 20's, you didn't have enough fun; and if you were a
liberal in your 30's, you didn't have enough brain cells".
Linux is for 20 year old hackers. BSD is for hackers 30+.
>It's people like you that don't want easy configurations for
the end-user to use. It's what's wholding back Linux from
popular usage.
Yes, "Insightful", 5 points. BSD people don't care about
"popular usage". We care about integrity and quality. That's
all. We are happy MS provides an OS for the McDonalds and
CompUSA t
Why is this a 5 (or even interesting):
...
/usr/bin/lp /usr/bin/lpq /usr/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lprm /usr/sbin/lpc /usr/sbin/lpd /etc/printcap /usr/libexec/lpr/lpf
That's sad.... (Score:5, Interesting)
The best way to print anything now is using
CUPS. Easy to set up and administer. Who
WOULDNT want to use it?
When this is a 4?
Re:That's sad.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Your post is so typical of what I see on
Slashdot these days
The first comment was totally stupid with no
substance or relevance, and should be a -1 or
less. The second comment was very
substantive and intelligent and deserves
a book of deep thought and commentary.
It exposes a small symptom in the technology
arena that appears to be on the rise
throughout society; the result of turning
spankings into "time-outs", republics
into "democracies", and individualism into
"collectivism". A symptom of teachers that
are ignorant of their subjects, kids that
use calculators to do basic math, and
graduates that get diplomas for purposes
of self-esteem. A symptom of the feminization
of men, the masculation of women, the reverence
of followers and distain for individual success.
Most every post (given that this is a hacker
type forum) is a display of ignorance with
a promotional cover, and/or a whiny complaint.
UNIX printing is as simple as could be. No one
needs CUPS or 'apsfilter' or any of it. Just
how hard is it to pipe as necessary into 'gs',
directing output into a printer device?
With 'jpeg2ps', 'gs', and a few lines of awk
anyone can print JPEG's, PS/EPS/PDF, DOS(CRLF),
UNIX(LF) files, and more. And if you have a good
PS printer, you don't even need the 'gs'.
Any decent software package that needs
to print can print PS.
A few lines of awk can do everything
all these programs can do (and more):
You can even have your script page number
text files, etc. When I set up a system
for printing, I need to change one 'gs'
variable in an awk script, and that's it.
What makes that so hard? UNIX printing
has been utterly simplistic for years.