I'm not not saying "just" the internet, just that there are alternatives to the TV. You got your bars, your coffee houses, your whore houses (if you're discussing politics there, I would consider you a little...uh...weird, but then thee are those who actually do buy Playboy for the articles.), your church, those little town hall meetings everybody talks about, your schools...ok, that's enough, but I hope you get my point. The internet makes it terrifically convenient, and we should, and probably will eventually, exploit it to full effect. I believe it may have helped a little to put some restraints on the president's little adventure he is on. Ever the dreamer I am. But there is an approaching event horizon, I'm afraid, and we can't let the present situation continue much longer, but then maybe people have been saying that for a couple a thousands years already. For now politics is merely a sporting event on which to place my bets and hope to make some beer money. You have a point, though. Most people do just vote as a conditioned reflex with no real thought of any kind. I can't blame the politicians for that.
It's not cynical. It's the truth. But that has been my point all along. The voter is the problem, not the money, or the politicians, or the parties. The voters' anger is misdirected. The system they live under is a result of their own complacency and greed and selfishness and shortsightedness, etc, etc, etc. The blame lies squarely on their/our shoulders. We fight each other while the authorities are laughing behind our backs on the way to the bank. They do represent the voters' every wish, or at least the voters think so, or they wouldn't get re-elected. Once we can get this little issue out of the way, we can move on to the next step. We are constantly told that ignorance of the law is no excuse. To me, the same goes for indoctrination, that's no excuse either if we are to continue to believe that we have a free will. Now, in reality, indoctrination or conditioning is extremely difficult to overcome, but we must at least put some kind of effort into it, and quit wasting our energy attacking the symptoms.
On the other hand, it's hard to google for a name you've never heard.
That's why we invented coffee houses. It gives us a reason to go out and see the world. Please forgive me, but I cannot be taken in by this defeatist attitude. We have a great opportunity here, better than we ever had. It is ours alone to throw away. If we divert our attention away from the TV for ten seconds, the Hillary/Obama and McCain/Guliani tickets will be seen in their true image and will simply disappear off the radar. As it is with the public caught in the headlights, we have what's called at the track, a "boat race".
...if you don't have enough money to be heard through the other noise, you won't get very far.
Getting through the noise is my obligation, not theirs. What's that word? Gawk? Grep? Find? Locate? Search? Buscar? Spotlight? Google?(well forget them. They only serve the advertisers now.) I can filter or tune out to get what I need. It's up to us to do the fine tuning. I just don't want any restrictions on available information through some dumb law. I can digest it just fine, even if I eat it raw:-)
Education, not legislation is the only workable solution.
Even fictional kiddie porn has been declared illegal in many places. Yes, we have entered the era of thought crime. And you know they will soon read your thoughts. They will study the cat scans when they show pictures of children. A whole new technology that we have to learn how to spoof and render useless. I guess one way is to always have sex on your mind.
So what happens if you ignore them? Scientology is simply a powerful Hollywood employment agency that has religious credentials to evade taxes. It would be interesting to see them sue people for just turning their backs. Leave the boys with their toys. Like the GPL, they derive their power from copyright law. That is their all powerful god, and they can prove its existence in the constitution, and it wields a more powerful hammer than Thor ever had. Can't blame them for exploiting it. I blame us for allowing it to remain on the books.
Really? Is there some unwritten rule that we must vote for the guy with the most money? Or is it actually codified into law? The internet is busting down lots a barriers that were put up against the small guy. There is no excuse anymore. We make or break the system. What choice will you make? The solution is in the mirror, not some unworkable legislation.
This is why I insist that term limits or "no re-election" cannot work. The individual politician is not in power. The party is. Or, more likely, the bureaucrats are the ones that hold the real power. Those ones that are appointed. There you will find real danger. Besides, as long as the voters are thinking only of their self interests, nothing is going to change anyway. So your neighbor is actually more dangerous than the bureaucrats.
Well, he may be right. I don't know the official definition of "data mining" (and really don't care). By itself, it's not necessarily a bad thing. But like like GM foods, I want to see a label. For the moment, I assume that everybody is data mining, and will block it where I think it's appropriate. It's really nothing more than typical top down 19th century business practice and its attempt to stay alive. I would like to make a point of showing that it is in their interests to look for another way to conduct business that doesn't use personal information by making this one as unworkable and expensive as possible. The old methods no longer apply.
The FUD can flow both ways. That's the way the game is being played. Sometimes you have to whack people on the head to get their attention. Fight fire with fire. People should be made aware of these things so they can make the proverbial "informed" choice.
Well, there's always the other solution. Just stay away from them. Unfortunately, gen pop isn't going to care too much. They will just roll over, and the Times will get what they want, I suppose. But it still might be fun to flood them into oblivion. These are the kind of things that legitimize spoofing and other things that drive the IT guys nuts. I think we can have our way with them, and show them who's their daddy.
You better hope it makes lots of money. If it bombs, accusations of piracy will be flying all over the place, leading to more legislation, and probably yet another, more "secure" DVD like format, so you need to "re-stock" your library again, in addition to having to buy more new hardware you really don't need, since the new format will probably last about five years before another one comes out. Prety impressive how they do that.
I'm thinking along the same lines. Two can play at this. Just stuff it full of phony info. Fill 'em up with chaff and let them sort it out. I think it's pretty silly to give them any real info that won't benefit us in any way. Same goes for the MySpace crowd and similar sites. I can't sympathize much if you give out your real name, etc. So, Mr. New York Times, I can be honest, too. The name I give isn't mine. I will log in as the "Ex Presidents". Now, if they want to offer money for logging in, I'll be more than happy to give them what they want, provided it's along the lines of a hundred dollars a page:-) In other words, this doesn't bother me in the least. Mine away. You'll come up dry.
It doesn't matter. It may have not gotten across as I intended. So I'll spoil it for you and just say it was a vague attempt at a "missing link" joke. My linguistic skills aren't exactly what you would call "advanced". Besides, if you post AC (which, unlike many, I don't mind in the least), I don't believe it invalidates the mod.
Do you add microchips into magazines to see how many people open that specific page?
Might be pretty feasible now. You might just have something there. But as far as I'm concerned, I'd just as soon see all the classic business models go away. A good shakeup is what's needed. To those trying to maintain the old ways, I say, "Let them eat cake!" They're in a panic, and it's very fun to watch. They strive so hard for a stable and predictable market, and I think it's great to see it slip through their hands. A little chaos will do 'em some good, and probably the rest of us, also. It'll bring them down to earth a little, in that their are losing control, just like the Soviets lost control of the media in the 80s. I see this as a small restoration of a balance of power. We have to make it clear to those who want control that they won't have it anymore. I found the article to be good news on many fronts.
Sorry I forgot the smiley. I meant nothing serious about it. Personally, I think seeing these advertising types squirm like this is hilarious. They will never be able to control the net the way they could with the older media, and that's the way I like it. All the old 19th century business models will fall apart and will be thrown aside once and for all. First it's the publishing, music, movie industries. Now we can toss the advertising industry into the same heap of trash along with them. Good riddance to all the old top down way of doing things. Who needs these people? I don't. It's getting to be time to show the power of the individual. Everything will just have to priced on an entirely individual basis. No more of this "18-49 year old males" marketing demographic bull. Say so-long to the Nielsens and Marketron...The longer the better.
Slashdot Mirror
*sigh*
I'm not not saying "just" the internet, just that there are alternatives to the TV. You got your bars, your coffee houses, your whore houses (if you're discussing politics there, I would consider you a little...uh...weird, but then thee are those who actually do buy Playboy for the articles.), your church, those little town hall meetings everybody talks about, your schools...ok, that's enough, but I hope you get my point. The internet makes it terrifically convenient, and we should, and probably will eventually, exploit it to full effect. I believe it may have helped a little to put some restraints on the president's little adventure he is on. Ever the dreamer I am. But there is an approaching event horizon, I'm afraid, and we can't let the present situation continue much longer, but then maybe people have been saying that for a couple a thousands years already. For now politics is merely a sporting event on which to place my bets and hope to make some beer money. You have a point, though. Most people do just vote as a conditioned reflex with no real thought of any kind. I can't blame the politicians for that.
He was talking to me. But I won't dignify him with a response...maybe a raspberry, but I'll leave it that.
It's not cynical. It's the truth. But that has been my point all along. The voter is the problem, not the money, or the politicians, or the parties. The voters' anger is misdirected. The system they live under is a result of their own complacency and greed and selfishness and shortsightedness, etc, etc, etc. The blame lies squarely on their/our shoulders. We fight each other while the authorities are laughing behind our backs on the way to the bank. They do represent the voters' every wish, or at least the voters think so, or they wouldn't get re-elected. Once we can get this little issue out of the way, we can move on to the next step. We are constantly told that ignorance of the law is no excuse. To me, the same goes for indoctrination, that's no excuse either if we are to continue to believe that we have a free will. Now, in reality, indoctrination or conditioning is extremely difficult to overcome, but we must at least put some kind of effort into it, and quit wasting our energy attacking the symptoms.
On the other hand, it's hard to google for a name you've never heard.
That's why we invented coffee houses. It gives us a reason to go out and see the world. Please forgive me, but I cannot be taken in by this defeatist attitude. We have a great opportunity here, better than we ever had. It is ours alone to throw away. If we divert our attention away from the TV for ten seconds, the Hillary/Obama and McCain/Guliani tickets will be seen in their true image and will simply disappear off the radar. As it is with the public caught in the headlights, we have what's called at the track, a "boat race".
...if you don't have enough money to be heard through the other noise, you won't get very far.
:-)
Getting through the noise is my obligation, not theirs. What's that word? Gawk? Grep? Find? Locate? Search? Buscar? Spotlight? Google?(well forget them. They only serve the advertisers now.) I can filter or tune out to get what I need. It's up to us to do the fine tuning. I just don't want any restrictions on available information through some dumb law. I can digest it just fine, even if I eat it raw
Education, not legislation is the only workable solution.
Even fictional kiddie porn has been declared illegal in many places. Yes, we have entered the era of thought crime. And you know they will soon read your thoughts. They will study the cat scans when they show pictures of children. A whole new technology that we have to learn how to spoof and render useless. I guess one way is to always have sex on your mind.
...the members have to pay to eat that shit.
The end is near! Renounce!
Believe us or we'll sue you to hell - Scientology
So what happens if you ignore them? Scientology is simply a powerful Hollywood employment agency that has religious credentials to evade taxes. It would be interesting to see them sue people for just turning their backs. Leave the boys with their toys. Like the GPL, they derive their power from copyright law. That is their all powerful god, and they can prove its existence in the constitution, and it wields a more powerful hammer than Thor ever had. Can't blame them for exploiting it. I blame us for allowing it to remain on the books.
Really? Is there some unwritten rule that we must vote for the guy with the most money? Or is it actually codified into law? The internet is busting down lots a barriers that were put up against the small guy. There is no excuse anymore. We make or break the system. What choice will you make? The solution is in the mirror, not some unworkable legislation.
This is why I insist that term limits or "no re-election" cannot work. The individual politician is not in power. The party is. Or, more likely, the bureaucrats are the ones that hold the real power. Those ones that are appointed. There you will find real danger. Besides, as long as the voters are thinking only of their self interests, nothing is going to change anyway. So your neighbor is actually more dangerous than the bureaucrats.
Well, he may be right. I don't know the official definition of "data mining" (and really don't care). By itself, it's not necessarily a bad thing. But like like GM foods, I want to see a label. For the moment, I assume that everybody is data mining, and will block it where I think it's appropriate. It's really nothing more than typical top down 19th century business practice and its attempt to stay alive. I would like to make a point of showing that it is in their interests to look for another way to conduct business that doesn't use personal information by making this one as unworkable and expensive as possible. The old methods no longer apply.
What happened to America's much touted freedom of speech?
That went out the window in 1798.
The FUD can flow both ways. That's the way the game is being played. Sometimes you have to whack people on the head to get their attention. Fight fire with fire. People should be made aware of these things so they can make the proverbial "informed" choice.
Well, there's always the other solution. Just stay away from them. Unfortunately, gen pop isn't going to care too much. They will just roll over, and the Times will get what they want, I suppose. But it still might be fun to flood them into oblivion. These are the kind of things that legitimize spoofing and other things that drive the IT guys nuts. I think we can have our way with them, and show them who's their daddy.
Trilogies. That's how we will elect presidents. Father, Son, and Holy Shi...er...Ghost.
You better hope it makes lots of money. If it bombs, accusations of piracy will be flying all over the place, leading to more legislation, and probably yet another, more "secure" DVD like format, so you need to "re-stock" your library again, in addition to having to buy more new hardware you really don't need, since the new format will probably last about five years before another one comes out. Prety impressive how they do that.
I'm thinking along the same lines. Two can play at this. Just stuff it full of phony info. Fill 'em up with chaff and let them sort it out. I think it's pretty silly to give them any real info that won't benefit us in any way. Same goes for the MySpace crowd and similar sites. I can't sympathize much if you give out your real name, etc. So, Mr. New York Times, I can be honest, too. The name I give isn't mine. I will log in as the "Ex Presidents". Now, if they want to offer money for logging in, I'll be more than happy to give them what they want, provided it's along the lines of a hundred dollars a page :-) In other words, this doesn't bother me in the least. Mine away. You'll come up dry.
You all are wasting your time. The NSA doesn't exist.
Maybe they'll write a "guide" book.
Only with the "affordable" versions.
It doesn't matter. It may have not gotten across as I intended. So I'll spoil it for you and just say it was a vague attempt at a "missing link" joke. My linguistic skills aren't exactly what you would call "advanced". Besides, if you post AC (which, unlike many, I don't mind in the least), I don't believe it invalidates the mod.
Do you add microchips into magazines to see how many people open that specific page?
Might be pretty feasible now. You might just have something there. But as far as I'm concerned, I'd just as soon see all the classic business models go away. A good shakeup is what's needed. To those trying to maintain the old ways, I say, "Let them eat cake!" They're in a panic, and it's very fun to watch. They strive so hard for a stable and predictable market, and I think it's great to see it slip through their hands. A little chaos will do 'em some good, and probably the rest of us, also. It'll bring them down to earth a little, in that their are losing control, just like the Soviets lost control of the media in the 80s. I see this as a small restoration of a balance of power. We have to make it clear to those who want control that they won't have it anymore. I found the article to be good news on many fronts.
Sorry I forgot the smiley. I meant nothing serious about it. Personally, I think seeing these advertising types squirm like this is hilarious. They will never be able to control the net the way they could with the older media, and that's the way I like it. All the old 19th century business models will fall apart and will be thrown aside once and for all. First it's the publishing, music, movie industries. Now we can toss the advertising industry into the same heap of trash along with them. Good riddance to all the old top down way of doing things. Who needs these people? I don't. It's getting to be time to show the power of the individual. Everything will just have to priced on an entirely individual basis. No more of this "18-49 year old males" marketing demographic bull. Say so-long to the Nielsens and Marketron...The longer the better.
How do you build an advertising economy when the number can't be trusted?'
Use a different measurement system, and don't install spyware.