Is this a news article or a product placement ad? Well, this one is a real "whodunit" aint it? Looks like we got a good ol' fashion Easter Egg Hunt goin' on.
even have the most fleeting suspicion that this whole thing is maybe, possibly a not so secretive ad campaign? Could it be, dare I say it, a giant Troll? Well, all I can say (ok, maybe not ALL) is, good job, guys. Keep up the good work. You can expect a nice bonus next Christmas. In fact, you all look a bit tired. Why don't you take a couple of weeks off? I hear the snow is good in Colorado. The interns can handle it from here.
Let's hope this all ends quickly so we can stop guessing about what might happen.
What?! Are you nuts? It's these soap operas that make high tech so exciting. It's "Cheaters" for nerds. It keeps both Apple and Cisco on the front pages...right here on Slashdot even. This stuff was MADE for the TV. "Boston Legal" is the perfect setting, if they haven't done a variation on the theme already...or even if they have, this could carry them through several seasons. No, You should know by now that quick resolutions are not a good thing. The process must support itself, for itself, by itself. Its continuance and perpetuity are the desired result. If they can keep it running as long as "All My Children", then wonderful! That's how its success will be measured...at the lawyers office at least.
...and recently just stuck a sticker on a picture of an existing product...
Clearly an attempt to defraud the government, with phony documents and everything. This is no different than filing a false tax return. And on a related note, what do you think would happen to me if I put my picture on somebody else's passport? Why do people complain about the two-bit common criminals when the so-called "pillars of society" that they deal with every day set this kind of example?
Well, what if America really is creating the rotten ruin of the world?
Then I don't think the video should be shown. I don't think it should be shown at all.
They should not show it in a car They should not show it at a bar They should not show it in the school They should not show it at the pool "This Global Warming is all wrong" Says Frosty Hardison all day long So wrap up tight in you warn bed 'cause Frosty says we'll freeze instead
I do not like ad hom attacks and consider them to be one of the few methods leftists use to try to stay in the debate.
Ah, the tirades of a FOX stooge. Certainly explains the rest of your post. I made no ad hominem attcks. It is simply a statemant of facts. You seem to believe that if you recite gov't/corp publications and your little 6th grade social studies lectures often enough, they will become believable. Your drivel about common law this and civil law that means absolutely nothing when it comes up against the desire for personal power and money. I guess you're just too locked in. The system works for you, or you know how to work the system. Wouldn't want to upset that now, would we? Eh, Whatever. What really cracks me up though, is when someone comes along and shows that the world doesn't operate by all your neat little theories, that in reality, it's quite gruesome and chaotic, you simply jump up and down and throw insults for distraction. I love it. I see it happening on both sides, each pretending that one is different than the other. At the same time each trying to be exactly like each other during their biennial popularity contest. It really is silly to argue with anybody that lives on the "right" end of the Big Stick. I have to say though that it is a little sad that you believe that everything we have now wouldn't exist without all this bull. That IP law is the killer app for human progress when really all it does is threaten to kill off human progress. Or to have it meted out with each model year(dupe!) or monthly update.
Another is the batteries from ancient babylon. Those electrical and mechanical devices existed and vanishedfor over 1000 years before the technology was rediscovered or reinvented.
And for some reason you believe our records will be more permanent? Who knows? Maybe the SCO case will still be open.
...your new ocean front property in Arizona.
I don't believe the San Andreas fault runs through Arizona. I believe you're thinking of the TwentyNine Palms area. Anyway, that's a ways off yet. However, you might want to consider looking into it:) Oh, and thanks for the money shot.
While admiting that I like the concept, I also wonder if it doesn't make you(editorial) a little bit like those religious whackos who demand that advertisers pull their ads off of "offensive" programming. I suppose the best solution is to spend your money where you see fit, and let the other people decide how to spend theirs.
IP is not a physical object. It is a violently enforced myth, creation, delusion, fable, fabrication, fairy tale, fantasy, fiction, figment, illusion, superstition. It has no basis other than the wild claims of the pretensious human animal.
Dunno. It should apply to ALL IP law, tradmarks, patents, copyright, and whatever else you can dream up, as long as it remains on the books. It might not lead to abolishment, but it's a good step in that direction.
It's not like Sealand will have "weapons of mass destruction"...
In the corporate world, IP violations are weapons of mass destruction. Much worse than the chemical or biological kind...on which they might have the patent.
Patent are necessary to have any standing in court when another company attempts to steal the efforts and ideas of that which you worked and invested in to offer the world...
Boiler plate arguments that don't hold water. Without IP law there can be no mega corporations. They would not ever be able to garner the undue influence they have almost precisely because of IP law. We have these things because we live under a government built in the coporations' image. We live under coporate law. And these laws exist to protect the interests of the coporation. You tie your entire economic well being to these people, and you believe everything they tell you. You are living the biggest pyramid scheme or multi-level marketing scam there is. And we're all happily humming along..."no problem...just give me cable". IP law is the single biggest impediment to human progress. Instead of allowing one to build on the works of others, it forces you to re-invent the wheel to get around the patent or copyright, whatever. And it effectively keeps the "secret" better than outright keeping the secret. "Look, don't touch".
The subject of "ownership" is still under debate. Expressed ideas cannot be owned by any particular individual or group. You can't steal something that nobody has a right to claim as "their own". In fact the thievery is in the other direction. A long time ago, copyright "borrowed" from the public domain, where all expressed ideas exist in nature. (No! You don't own it! You were merely the first to express it. That's your only legitimate claim.) Now it's attempting to steal from it by keeping it, forever if possible.
How many bootleg Macs do you see out there? It is this low piracy rate that has kept their marketshare so low. And if any of the others were really worried about piracy, they would employ Apple's and Avid's and Pro tools' methods of tying software to hardware. I'm not complaining about it, just pointing out that Apple has been very successful in this matter because they have always had DRM built into their hardware...er..software. How many of you are running OSX or OS9 or even 7.5 in a virtual machine on your linux boxes? And furthermore, how come Apple gets to keep their BIOS under IP lockdown when IBM had to give theirs up? They may treat other peoples' Imaginary Property rather lightly, but they protect their own with a very effective iron fist...so to speak:-)
Huh? Ever look at their cash flow? What is there that they could possibly learn from us?(Besides being a decent human being? I doubt they're interested) Everybody pisses and moans about prices and service and evil this an' that, and yet...they can't hand over their money fast enough. "when Consumerism Attacks" There has to be a Guiness Record of some sort relating to the stupidity of the consumer reaching new heights. The previous event was the Pet Rock.
...they're being rank hypocrites.
Yes they are. But why should they care? Most people understand that...and yet...
These patents are more valuable than money, and with the treasure trove they have, they can't afford to have such a broken system that people might finally see the light and demand complete abolishment. It's not about reform. It's about protecting an investment.
In the last couple of years I only recall a couple of cases where journalists were jailed, and it wasn't for what they wrote but for not revealing their sources.
Not revealing their sources is the tool used to jail journalists because of what they wrote. "State secrets" is a very convenient excuse.
If everything were public domain, then there'd be nothing preventing someone from taking the sources for some software, making useful changes to it, and then only selling the binaries.
Without copyright law, the only people you will sell the binaries to are the ones that contracted you to build them. Why care if you don't have the source? When it can be physically protected, fine, but there should be no law protecting it once it's leaked. When you keep something to yourself, it's yours. I'm not advocating the mandatory release of code. I think closed source is perfectly fine. But once it's revealed, it belongs to everybody, like any other expressed idea. Nobody has the right to use the law to enforce ignorance, especially for the sole purpose of protecting profits. Copyright law is the 55 mph speed limit of the information age and all human progress. I don't care about the source. I just want to put an end to laws that exist to protect corrupt business models.
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Is this a news article or a product placement ad? Well, this one is a real "whodunit" aint it? Looks like we got a good ol' fashion Easter Egg Hunt goin' on.
even have the most fleeting suspicion that this whole thing is maybe, possibly a not so secretive ad campaign? Could it be, dare I say it, a giant Troll? Well, all I can say (ok, maybe not ALL) is, good job, guys. Keep up the good work. You can expect a nice bonus next Christmas. In fact, you all look a bit tired. Why don't you take a couple of weeks off? I hear the snow is good in Colorado. The interns can handle it from here.
Let's hope this all ends quickly so we can stop guessing about what might happen.
What?! Are you nuts? It's these soap operas that make high tech so exciting. It's "Cheaters" for nerds. It keeps both Apple and Cisco on the front pages...right here on Slashdot even. This stuff was MADE for the TV. "Boston Legal" is the perfect setting, if they haven't done a variation on the theme already...or even if they have, this could carry them through several seasons. No, You should know by now that quick resolutions are not a good thing. The process must support itself, for itself, by itself. Its continuance and perpetuity are the desired result. If they can keep it running as long as "All My Children", then wonderful! That's how its success will be measured...at the lawyers office at least.
I personally think the courts should go after them for that fraud. Before I reached these posts, I had just commented on the very subject.
...and recently just stuck a sticker on a picture of an existing product...
Clearly an attempt to defraud the government, with phony documents and everything. This is no different than filing a false tax return. And on a related note, what do you think would happen to me if I put my picture on somebody else's passport? Why do people complain about the two-bit common criminals when the so-called "pillars of society" that they deal with every day set this kind of example?
He didn't "leak" anything. He made a promotional announcement.
I think i need a bigger font
They should not show it in a car
They should not show it at a bar
They should not show it in the school
They should not show it at the pool
"This Global Warming is all wrong"
Says Frosty Hardison all day long
So wrap up tight in you warn bed
'cause Frosty says we'll freeze instead
...but my phone can't go_boom on me..
No doubt
I do not like ad hom attacks and consider them to be one of the few methods leftists use to try to stay in the debate.
...your new ocean front property in Arizona.
:) Oh, and thanks for the money shot.
Ah, the tirades of a FOX stooge. Certainly explains the rest of your post. I made no ad hominem attcks. It is simply a statemant of facts. You seem to believe that if you recite gov't/corp publications and your little 6th grade social studies lectures often enough, they will become believable. Your drivel about common law this and civil law that means absolutely nothing when it comes up against the desire for personal power and money. I guess you're just too locked in. The system works for you, or you know how to work the system. Wouldn't want to upset that now, would we? Eh, Whatever. What really cracks me up though, is when someone comes along and shows that the world doesn't operate by all your neat little theories, that in reality, it's quite gruesome and chaotic, you simply jump up and down and throw insults for distraction. I love it. I see it happening on both sides, each pretending that one is different than the other. At the same time each trying to be exactly like each other during their biennial popularity contest. It really is silly to argue with anybody that lives on the "right" end of the Big Stick. I have to say though that it is a little sad that you believe that everything we have now wouldn't exist without all this bull. That IP law is the killer app for human progress when really all it does is threaten to kill off human progress. Or to have it meted out with each model year(dupe!) or monthly update.
Another is the batteries from ancient babylon. Those electrical and mechanical devices existed and vanishedfor over 1000 years before the technology was rediscovered or reinvented.
And for some reason you believe our records will be more permanent? Who knows? Maybe the SCO case will still be open.
I don't believe the San Andreas fault runs through Arizona. I believe you're thinking of the TwentyNine Palms area. Anyway, that's a ways off yet. However, you might want to consider looking into it
Socially responsible investing...
While admiting that I like the concept, I also wonder if it doesn't make you(editorial) a little bit like those religious whackos who demand that advertisers pull their ads off of "offensive" programming. I suppose the best solution is to spend your money where you see fit, and let the other people decide how to spend theirs.
IP is not a physical object. It is a violently enforced myth, creation, delusion, fable, fabrication, fairy tale, fantasy, fiction, figment, illusion, superstition. It has no basis other than the wild claims of the pretensious human animal.
Dunno. It should apply to ALL IP law, tradmarks, patents, copyright, and whatever else you can dream up, as long as it remains on the books. It might not lead to abolishment, but it's a good step in that direction.
The whole thing is a "make work" program for lawyers. They are the one, true beneficiary.
I like that. It helps to reduce squatting, speculation, and hoarding.
Do you work for the government or the Mafia?
You're telling me there's a difference?
It's not like Sealand will have "weapons of mass destruction"...
In the corporate world, IP violations are weapons of mass destruction. Much worse than the chemical or biological kind...on which they might have the patent.
Patent are necessary to have any standing in court when another company attempts to steal the efforts and ideas of that which you worked and invested in to offer the world...
Boiler plate arguments that don't hold water. Without IP law there can be no mega corporations. They would not ever be able to garner the undue influence they have almost precisely because of IP law. We have these things because we live under a government built in the coporations' image. We live under coporate law. And these laws exist to protect the interests of the coporation. You tie your entire economic well being to these people, and you believe everything they tell you. You are living the biggest pyramid scheme or multi-level marketing scam there is. And we're all happily humming along..."no problem...just give me cable". IP law is the single biggest impediment to human progress. Instead of allowing one to build on the works of others, it forces you to re-invent the wheel to get around the patent or copyright, whatever. And it effectively keeps the "secret" better than outright keeping the secret. "Look, don't touch".
The subject of "ownership" is still under debate. Expressed ideas cannot be owned by any particular individual or group. You can't steal something that nobody has a right to claim as "their own". In fact the thievery is in the other direction. A long time ago, copyright "borrowed" from the public domain, where all expressed ideas exist in nature. (No! You don't own it! You were merely the first to express it. That's your only legitimate claim.) Now it's attempting to steal from it by keeping it, forever if possible.
How many bootleg Macs do you see out there? It is this low piracy rate that has kept their marketshare so low. And if any of the others were really worried about piracy, they would employ Apple's and Avid's and Pro tools' methods of tying software to hardware. I'm not complaining about it, just pointing out that Apple has been very successful in this matter because they have always had DRM built into their hardware...er..software. How many of you are running OSX or OS9 or even 7.5 in a virtual machine on your linux boxes? And furthermore, how come Apple gets to keep their BIOS under IP lockdown when IBM had to give theirs up? They may treat other peoples' Imaginary Property rather lightly, but they protect their own with a very effective iron fist...so to speak :-)
Stupid telecom companies will never learn.
...they're being rank hypocrites.
Huh? Ever look at their cash flow? What is there that they could possibly learn from us?(Besides being a decent human being? I doubt they're interested) Everybody pisses and moans about prices and service and evil this an' that, and yet...they can't hand over their money fast enough. "when Consumerism Attacks" There has to be a Guiness Record of some sort relating to the stupidity of the consumer reaching new heights. The previous event was the Pet Rock.
Yes they are. But why should they care? Most people understand that...and yet...
The Americans are kind of silly that way. They even pay to RECIEVE calls, because they were told they can't have it any other way.
These patents are more valuable than money, and with the treasure trove they have, they can't afford to have such a broken system that people might finally see the light and demand complete abolishment. It's not about reform. It's about protecting an investment.
In the last couple of years I only recall a couple of cases where journalists were jailed, and it wasn't for what they wrote but for not revealing their sources.
Not revealing their sources is the tool used to jail journalists because of what they wrote. "State secrets" is a very convenient excuse.
If everything were public domain, then there'd be nothing preventing someone from taking the sources for some software, making useful changes to it, and then only selling the binaries.
Without copyright law, the only people you will sell the binaries to are the ones that contracted you to build them. Why care if you don't have the source? When it can be physically protected, fine, but there should be no law protecting it once it's leaked. When you keep something to yourself, it's yours. I'm not advocating the mandatory release of code. I think closed source is perfectly fine. But once it's revealed, it belongs to everybody, like any other expressed idea. Nobody has the right to use the law to enforce ignorance, especially for the sole purpose of protecting profits. Copyright law is the 55 mph speed limit of the information age and all human progress. I don't care about the source. I just want to put an end to laws that exist to protect corrupt business models.