Nazi Germany wasn't Nazi Germany until it became Nazi Germany, either. I understand that the u.s. isn't Nazi Germany... simply because it's not in Germany.
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...but cybercrimes covers a vast number of crimes.
Therein lies another problem. They're painting this with a very broad brush, like terrorism. They can tack on huge sentences for the most trivial of violations, simply because it falls under the category of cybercrime or terrorism. I understand your point about safety related issues, but we're talking about money here. Hardly a valid point compared to murder, rape, assault, etc. They've put corporate profits ahead of all these.
That's why I stamp out my bootlegs seal and all. To remind you not to make copies of my copies, or I'm comin' after ya:-)
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Well, The man said that preventing and prosecuting cybercrimes is now the FBI's No. 3 priority. So it looks like they'll spend more time chasing 12 year old "pirates" before they start looking for the next John Gotti, or kidnappers, or other "real" criminals.
Great. Now I'm going to be stopped for using my cel phone while driving:-) Seriously, you might not have the luxury of time when 911 puts you on hold. It seems a person has no legal means of self defense when it comes to dealing with the police(fake or real) The Pedro Oregon case in Houston is a good example of this.
Where is this free country you talk about? Is the weather nice? I waana go there. More seriously, I do believe that most states have laws that state that you must show ID if asked
If the program were to show that, they would no longer be invited to film the action. Just like you never see critical reporters in white house press conferences.
I think you read that backwards it was the citizen who would not show his ID to the cop, not vice versa.
Yes, but this brings up another point. If a u.s. citezen asks a cop to show id in order to verify that he/she is a legitimate policeman, shouldn't the cop have to show id? There are a few fakes out there. This brings up another question. Is there such a thing as self defense against a cop? It seems that the police have been given pretty much unlimited authority when it comes to people in their cars, judging from recent court rulings.
With all the bad laws out there(patriot act, drug laws, etc.), I don't think you should be lecturing anybody about "breaking the law". These kinds of laws breed contempt for the whole system. If you want people to obey the laws, you need to make sure that these laws never pass.
They may already started down that route with the HMO's. I can't remember if that "HMO Protection Act" has passed or not. It might just be slipped in with some sort of tort reform thing. Either way, the gov't will do what it can to protect its main propaganda machine.Taken to the extreme, they could be assimilated into the federal gov't, making them immune to all lawsuits. I know that's silly, but worse things have happened.
Ok. Let's go one step further. A rogue(or maybe not so rogue) CIA agent is killing people in cold blood. Do I have a right to expose that person? Even harm can be considered subjective, depending who is being harmed. Some might contend that the US gov't is illegally harming Iraqis. If they were to attempt to stop it by revealing US military planning in Iraq. Who's wrong here? Many governments harm people, possibly illegally. How can we protect oursevles from that? Now we have to decide who is allowed to harm people.
The slow evolution, by the corporations, that has eroded fair-use and effectively eliminated the limits is what is evil.
This is the only logical path that IP can take, given "human" nature. And speaking about human nature, it's anything but human. It's "nature" nature. To become human, we have to rise above that. Though we may have become more civilized in the last 200 years, we are still under the influence of the desires of the "flesh". Every law or rule we make is simply an extension of animal hierarchy. So given our state of evolution, these rules may seem necessary. Maybe in a hundred thousand years or so, we can look back and laugh.
This is one of the things that make me suspicious of IBM's intent. They will support open source only as long as it benefits them. We better watch our backs. They will turn on us like rabid dogs if it helps the bottom line.
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Nazi Germany wasn't Nazi Germany until it became Nazi Germany, either. I understand that the u.s. isn't Nazi Germany... simply because it's not in Germany.
...but cybercrimes covers a vast number of crimes.
Therein lies another problem. They're painting this with a very broad brush, like terrorism. They can tack on huge sentences for the most trivial of violations, simply because it falls under the category of cybercrime or terrorism. I understand your point about safety related issues, but we're talking about money here. Hardly a valid point compared to murder, rape, assault, etc. They've put corporate profits ahead of all these.
That's why I stamp out my bootlegs seal and all. To remind you not to make copies of my copies, or I'm comin' after ya :-)
Well, The man said that preventing and prosecuting cybercrimes is now the FBI's No. 3 priority. So it looks like they'll spend more time chasing 12 year old "pirates" before they start looking for the next John Gotti, or kidnappers, or other "real" criminals.
What I would do is call 911 on your cell phone...
:-) Seriously, you might not have the luxury of time when 911 puts you on hold. It seems a person has no legal means of self defense when it comes to dealing with the police(fake or real) The Pedro Oregon case in Houston is a good example of this.
Great. Now I'm going to be stopped for using my cel phone while driving
There is not, to my knowledge, any federal law mandating that US citizens carry identification.
There are many state laws mandating(new name for Mandrake?) exactly that. You can be arrested if you don't have ID.
Surely this is a free country...
Where is this free country you talk about? Is the weather nice? I waana go there.
More seriously, I do believe that most states have laws that state that you must show ID if asked
If the program were to show that, they would no longer be invited to film the action. Just like you never see critical reporters in white house press conferences.
I think you read that backwards it was the citizen who would not show his ID to the cop, not vice versa.
Yes, but this brings up another point. If a u.s. citezen asks a cop to show id in order to verify that he/she is a legitimate policeman, shouldn't the cop have to show id? There are a few fakes out there. This brings up another question. Is there such a thing as self defense against a cop? It seems that the police have been given pretty much unlimited authority when it comes to people in their cars, judging from recent court rulings.
finally produces something we can't pirate :-)
which appear to be coming from the IP addresses of the White House, the Dennis Hastert re-election campaign,
Lisa: "Don't forget Ken Starr."
...it's like the sexual revolution of the 70s/80s in the US.
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The sexual revolution was in the 60's, man.
It died in the 80's.
With all the bad laws out there(patriot act, drug laws, etc.), I don't think you should be lecturing anybody about "breaking the law". These kinds of laws breed contempt for the whole system. If you want people to obey the laws, you need to make sure that these laws never pass.
Abe: Would it be alright if I just lay down in the street and died?
Lawyer: Hmm . . . Yes, that would be acceptable.
...something that would generate a map of which law goes against which one.... etc.
Will this do?
They may already started down that route with the HMO's. I can't remember if that "HMO Protection Act" has passed or not. It might just be slipped in with some sort of tort reform thing. Either way, the gov't will do what it can to protect its main propaganda machine.Taken to the extreme, they could be assimilated into the federal gov't, making them immune to all lawsuits. I know that's silly, but worse things have happened.
Ok. Let's go one step further. A rogue(or maybe not so rogue) CIA agent is killing people in cold blood. Do I have a right to expose that person? Even harm can be considered subjective, depending who is being harmed. Some might contend that the US gov't is illegally harming Iraqis. If they were to attempt to stop it by revealing US military planning in Iraq. Who's wrong here? Many governments harm people, possibly illegally. How can we protect oursevles from that? Now we have to decide who is allowed to harm people.
illegal material
And exactly who is going to decide what's illegal?
Does this let Gary Condit off the hook?
Patent termination is likely a good idea...
It most certainly is. Terminate all patents. Then we can start coding again...
but this is what you guys are starting to look like.
You know... This is really getting silly
Tally-ho then, time to get Duracell stocks I guess.
Or just fire up the matrix
The slow evolution, by the corporations, that has eroded fair-use and effectively eliminated the limits is what is evil.
This is the only logical path that IP can take, given "human" nature. And speaking about human nature, it's anything but human. It's "nature" nature. To become human, we have to rise above that. Though we may have become more civilized in the last 200 years, we are still under the influence of the desires of the "flesh". Every law or rule we make is simply an extension of animal hierarchy. So given our state of evolution, these rules may seem necessary. Maybe in a hundred thousand years or so, we can look back and laugh.
Also, why didn't IBM get involved in this fight?
This is one of the things that make me suspicious of IBM's intent. They will support open source only as long as it benefits them. We better watch our backs. They will turn on us like rabid dogs if it helps the bottom line.