And where are these people supposed to work? McDonald's flipping burgers? TFA does mention apprenticeships but how many of those are there? And without exposure to different professions how is a person supposed to know what they will like?
That one doesn't name occupations either, only that some "will only require an associate's degree or a post-secondary occupational credential." Why do I ask? Because what are the pay for these occupations? Do they allow advancements? Are the workers easily replaceable by immigrants? And finally can they be outsourced?
The parents figure out right quick that it's their job to get a tutor if there's a problem.
How many parents have enough money to hire tutors? How many tutors will spend a lot more tyme with a difficult student?
they do this is Japan and other nations already. You pass or you are held back.
And Japan has one of the highest student suicide rates in the world. Now I'm not against holding back students but I am against having too high of an expectation.
Add some teeth to it and watch the parents and teachers get involved again.
Yes some children will improve but not everyone. It's almost as if parents are living through their children today and if the child does not measure up then not enough pressure is used.
The first thing we need to do to fix science education in this country is to pay math and science teachers more than the other teachers
Ah, another slashdotter who believes the only thing that matters is work so students only need math and science. Yea we need more robots and less people who can run businesses successfully, less people who can teach languages so that people can understand each other, and less entertainers so we can all be spoon fed mass media entertainment. Astrophysicists Brain May wasted his tyme as guitarist and song writer for the Queens. And we don't need phys ed teachers either, what does a bulging torso matter? Who needs exercise when science will cure it?
No child left behind is exactly the kind of counterproductive government program to which I was referring, thus proving the underlying conservative principle that more government involvement is not better.
And who brought us No Child Left Behind? Conservatives, that's who.
The poverty argument proves a third conservative principle: that the best means for improving people's lives is a robust competitive economy where the private sector can provide good paying jobs to allow people to lift themselves out of poverty.
But neither conservatives nor so called liberals (who are really socialists and not liberals), neither Democrats nor Republicans, want to allow a free market in the private sector. All of them want big government, the only difference is what part of government is bigger.
Incidentally, just because it's easy to correlate poverty with poor public school performance doesn't mean that the solution is to throw more money at the problem. Why are they poor and poverty stricken? Is it because they don't value education, hard work and initiative? Another conservative principle: the value of individual responsibility.
A conservative again waves a magic wand and declares an answer. Let me ask, have you ever worked with the homeless? Do you know how they got that way? I have and I do, at least with some. Even as a college student I worked for a day labor pool, and almost all of the people there were homeless. Not all but some of those I actually worked with, those sent to the same work site I was sent to, were some of the hardest working people I met. Another question, have you ever served in the military? Again I have. Well you may be asking what's the relevance of the question. That's easy, a lot of the homeless are vets, disabled and otherwise. Homeless Vets: Does Anyone Care?. Vets sacrificed their lives yet they're treated like garbage, though it's not as bad as the vets who returned from Viet Nam.
You may even say I'm part of the problem, being on disability. As a college student I was riding my bike one day after classes when I was hit. That accident left me with a disability. What did I do wrong? I choice to ride my bike at the wrong tyme on the wrong road. According to witnesses the driver of the van that hit me was weaving all over the road and it only a matter of tyme before he hit something. That was more than 10 years ago and only this past summer did I get any help in trying to start working again.
nowadays. School principals should have the power to discipline and dismiss bad teachers at their own discretion. Teachers may rant and rail that this will lead to favoritism and other bad -isms, but it's better than using a dry, standardized test designed by some committee thousands of miles away.
Neither one are any good, either making it hard to fire bad teachers or allowing principles to fire teachers on their own discretion. What's needed is a middle path, somewhere between the two extremes. What's to stop a principle from firing a teacher when there's a disagreement between them? Or do you think PHBs don't do that? Principles, and schoolboards, have to held accountable as much as teachers do. And that can be hard, how much money was spent on the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial? I don't like the feds handing out edicts states have to meet but there needs to be some sort of agreement between the states.
There are no threats to the US so dumbing down the sheeple and pouring Glenn Beck and fundamentalist religion in their minds is seen as a better course by the elites
For-profit or non-profit, private schools are not dumbing down people. You yourself point out how it was for you in a private Catholic school. Allowing school choice will allow more low income parents to send their children to good private schools. Or public magnate schools.
The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Book_of_Chemistry_Experiments , an amazing book now considered dangerous. The book was apparently removed from most public libraries. I think you can find a pdf via the wiki p links though - it is an amazing book.
While unfortunately I didn't have this book as a kid, I had some others that were similarly "dangerous", along with a chemistry set with most of the necessary chemicals. I made gunpowder once to prove to myself I could do it.
In high school chemistry the teacher would let some of us do our own experiments in the lab, before school, during lunch, and afterwards. To see if it was there a friend and I went to the library and looked in an encyclopaedia for the nitroglycerin entry and from there we thought we could make some. And we did. When we did we'd fill those small paint jars modelers use, then we'd go out into some woods and throw them around. We only did it a couple of tymes before stopping. The first tyme it was a kick, the second tyme though was "We already did this".
I think you wasted your tyme replying to a coward. Typically they don't know what personal responsibility is. Or they're too cowardly and want to shrug it off onto others.
As for my wife and me -- we'll take our chances with letting our child explore under our guidance, teaching him to think for himself and understanding important concepts such as responsibility and consequences.
My sister and brother-in-law aren't geeky but I recently sent them some links for Geek Moms and dads.
gets crazier when you look at genetics kits. kits meant for 12 year olds that allow them to splice dna from jellyfish into ecoli and stuff to let them extract their own dna from cheek swabs. that stuff definitely didn't exist when I was a kid.
Or electronics kits that let them build radios and simple digital multiplexers.
Twelve is too young to learn to build radios? Heck in 7th grade, when I was 12, I was taking an electricity and electronics class in school. It was only a few months after the school year started when I moved and my new school didn't have anything like it. But by that tyme I was building radios using a paper towel roller to wind stripped copper wire for the tuner. And that was back when everything was analogue not digital. In high school a few of us students were avid scuba divers and we were talking with a biology teacher who was also an avid diver. Because of those talks, we had a number of them, the teacher went to the school's admin and asked if a Marine Biology class could be offered. They came back saying that if enough students signed a petition pledging they would take the class if offered.
Well it didn't take us long and the following year the class was offered for the first tyme. Waiting for the current year to end, it was in the spring, we gathered the material and built a saltwater aquarium for a small sand shark we were given. I laughing now recalling some of what we did afterwards. Not too long before then the movies Jaws and "Jaws II" came out. So people were uptight and scared about them. When it came tyme for us to feed Sofia, the sand shark, we'd break off a piece of shrimp brine which is what she fed her. Then one of us would place the bring in our palm and hold it underwater for Sofia to eat it from our hand. Students who had never watched Sofia been fed would start screaming and saying we should get our hands out of the water or she'd bite it off.
Back when I was a kid, you could legitimately blow some shit up with your Jr. Scientist kit. Enthusiast experimenting books from Dad's era suggest using hydrogen cyanide kill the bugs for your bug collection. Stop pussifying science, and maybe kids will be interested again! I'm seeking funding for the Greyfox Science Kit, which will include a 2 inch "supermagnet", samples of lithium and sodium metal, a burner you can hook up to your gas line, a 1 watt laser and... what's that? I'm being the first lawsuit has already been filed...
You have to look for them but you can still find science kits and books like that. Make zine is one such place to look. Well, the Maker Shed store that is but the zine includes some good projects. One of the books the store has is Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments saying how to set up a lab at home. What I noticed last year was that Barnes and Noble Bookstore has started carrying science labs, though basic they can spark interest. For Christmas I wanted to get one for my niece and great niece, that is a couple of labs or replace one or both with a remote controlled helicopter.
That is, you only get the "paper" if your pay the subscription... it is subscription-only.
It says nothing like that, you're making thing up. Yes it says it's a paid for subscription but it does not say ads will not be sold. You even say as much later, "they will reel in the advertisers, probably with loss-leader offerings to existing advertising customers." You say as "loss-leaders" yet I provided what Rupert Murdoch believed about ads, that they should cost even more. Higher ad prices not lower ones. In case there's questions about that let's try News Corp. Launches iPad Pub 'The Daily' With Big Brand Support which says:
"For its inaugural issue, The Daily features interactive ads from around 10 advertisers, in addition to ads for products from other News Corp. properties such as Fox. The interactivity of those ads varies from simple click-to-video executions, such as the one for upcoming Paramount Pictures movie Rango, to more involved app-like experiences like the one on display from Verizon, which enables users to view a range of content and even purchase products without leaving the application." That just the first result out of more than 16 million of googling the daily news corp ipad ads.
There's other ways "Christian" has been used. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist who took the Christian Bible and cut out the sections dealing with miracles and the supernatural to create the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson believed Jesus was a great teacher, just not the "Son of God". Those who believe that have been considered Christians by some, though not all. Still another way was with Christian agnosticism.
Can you point out where I said wiki was a good source of info? Or did I use as one source among others?
The 4000 year is bullshit anyone who actually reads their bible it has many genealogical records start adding dates it is closer to 6000.
One of those other sources did say 6000 years.
As for the Catholic church they were the ones who persecuted everyone who wasn't a part of their organisation
Just as other churches did. Many of those Christians who burned people on stakes were not Catholics. The Anglican church of England most definitely isn't Catholic but it persecuted others. The Puritans or Pilgrims came to America to escape persecution. Here's a link to a Library of Congress page about America as a refuge for those Christians from one church who were persecuted by Christians from other denominations. King James I "persecuted both Catholics and the extreme Protestant Puritans and Separatists." Yet when the Puritans set up the Massachusetts Bay Colony they in turn persecuted those not of their own church.
So, are you going to admit the truth or are you going to continue to persecute Catholics?
So Apple's cut is 3% of total revenue. Assuming that web ad revenue is anything close to print ad revenue (once they adjust rates for having verified, paying customers seeing the ads instead of just random surfers.)
Actually because subscribers have the money for an iPad and a subscription Rupert Mordoch believes he can set higher advertising rates. Those people have the money.
Yep. When I was in the Bay Area I got a telemarketer calling asking if I wanted to subscribe to the New York Times. I politely told her I wasn't interested because, surprise!, I didn't live in New York. She seemed surprised that that entered in to the equation at all. It was, after all, as she kept saying, "THE New York Times."
I finally just flat out told her that I had been to New York and, frankly, wasn't impressed. Let alone pay money for their paper.
The New York Times does sell subscriptions nationwide. I get spam in snail mail and I'm in the middle of the nation. Between the coasts that is. The Times is the USA's third largest newspaper, behind "The Wall Street Journal" (a News Corp publication) and "USA Today".
Established media certainly make money out of advertising. However, with a subscription only service such as this
But is this a subscription only service? TFA does not say. Another article, Five things to know about News Corp’s The Daily iPad app does say "The Daily" will have ads. It even says Rupert Murdoch believes ads "should be sold at a premium as its target audience already has the disposable income to buy an iPad and pay for what is now a discretionary item."
there's pretty much no way an iPad app like this is going to consistently bring in enough money to pay off the initial investment, or even keep up with the weekly costs.
Utterly doomed.
If Apple gets 50% and weekly sales are 1.01 million News Corp's operating costs will be paid. If sales are 2.01 million per week News Corp will break even in 60 weeks. And that does not count advertisers.
Of course that changes if Apple gets less, then costs are met in a shorter period.
I also wonder if Books are doomed. I see amazon is selling The Golden Age of Science Fiction (50 Short Stories + 7 novels), volumes 1-10 for $2 each. Why pay full price for the physical books when I can get the same content downloaded to my Kindle or PC for about the same cost as a 2 candybars?
Some of us love to read and hold paper. Others have difficulty viewing monitors. And they require electricity. None is needed for me to read a magazine or book.
They still charge $36 a year, even if you order the e-edition.
I might pay more for both paper and online editions.
Christians and Catholics are not the same religion. Christians believe astrology is an abomination Catholics invented a religion
You obviously didn't read the wiki article on Christianity and astrology. It was the Catholic church who persecuted those who believed in astrology, not the other way around. Not your version, are you letting your hatred of Catholics show? That would explain your not reading, or totally ignoring, the wiki article.
Catholics invented a religion that incorporated all of their pagan beliefs under the guise of Christianity because Christianity was becoming a popular religion and Emperor Constantine was try to stay ahead of the game.
You don 't know much about history either, or you're making things up. Constantine only changed his beliefs after he had a dream in which a Christian figure told him his troops would be victorious in a battle with the Eastern Orthodox Church. When they won he became a believer. Now whether it was a real change of heart or was politically motivated I don't know. And neither do you.
Also where do you get this 4000 years?
Do you really not know there are Young earthers? Okay some believe it's 6000 years old. We've even had threads here on slashdot about Christian museums saying dinosaurs and humans lived together. And those are not Catholics. At least before he died Pope John Paul II said "God" created the universe with the Big Bang and that life evolved. Those Creationist Young Earthers you don't know about, unless you're lying, criticized the Pope over that. Like you they showed their hatred.
... but where it fails is the business model. It assumes that people are willing to pay to access a single aggregation service when so many already exist free of charge.
And where your model fails is where quality is concerned as well as how income is generated. Some people are willing to pay for quality material, and those who give stuff away won't be around for long unless they have deep pockets.
Ever wonder why music and video piracy is so rampant? Yeah, internet users like their free stuff. So given a choice between a 99 cents a week or a zero cents a week price point, most will just take the latter while wondering why the former would even exist.
Ever wonder how Apple's iTunes and other online music download services stay in business? Because they make a profit. iTunes had a first quarter profit of $1.1 billion.
Merely a semantic detail. Until the 1800s the word "science" meant "system of knowledge" and applied to philosophy, region, best practices, etc. In the 19th century science acquired its modern mean of reproduceable observations.
Not according to the wiki article on Science. Modern science arose in the 1600s and 1700s during the Scientific revolution. That places it squarely in the Age of Reason and the Age of Enlightenment.
This is a science article and according to science the universe is more than 14 billion years old while earth is 4.54 billion years old. But Christians exclaim earth is only 4000 years old.
Christianity preaches against astrology.
Christianity may preach against astrology today but that hasn't always been true. Wiki has the article Christianity and astrology about it. At various periods in history Christian churches did believe in and support astrology.
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Harvard study: Hey, maybe we’re placing too much emphasis on a college education http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/02/harvard-study-hey-maybe-were-placing-too-much-emphasis-on-a-college-education/
And where are these people supposed to work? McDonald's flipping burgers? TFA does mention apprenticeships but how many of those are there? And without exposure to different professions how is a person supposed to know what they will like?
http://educationresearchreport.blogspot.com/2011/02/we-place-far-too-much-emphasis-on.html
That one doesn't name occupations either, only that some "will only require an associate's degree or a post-secondary occupational credential." Why do I ask? Because what are the pay for these occupations? Do they allow advancements? Are the workers easily replaceable by immigrants? And finally can they be outsourced?
The parents figure out right quick that it's their job to get a tutor if there's a problem.
How many parents have enough money to hire tutors? How many tutors will spend a lot more tyme with a difficult student?
they do this is Japan and other nations already. You pass or you are held back.
And Japan has one of the highest student suicide rates in the world. Now I'm not against holding back students but I am against having too high of an expectation.
Add some teeth to it and watch the parents and teachers get involved again.
Yes some children will improve but not everyone. It's almost as if parents are living through their children today and if the child does not measure up then not enough pressure is used.
Falcon
Education can be done at home with an internet connection and standard, secure, self paced, curriculum.
Yea, who needs teachers and mentors? Who needs people watching them? Why should the disabled be taught?
This would reduce costs and improve long term outcomes.
It will reduce short term cost, but it will increase long term costs, unless those who don't make it are disposed of. Soylent green anyone?
One size fits all rarely work for everyone. The same is true for education.
Falcon
The first thing we need to do to fix science education in this country is to pay math and science teachers more than the other teachers
Ah, another slashdotter who believes the only thing that matters is work so students only need math and science. Yea we need more robots and less people who can run businesses successfully, less people who can teach languages so that people can understand each other, and less entertainers so we can all be spoon fed mass media entertainment. Astrophysicists Brain May wasted his tyme as guitarist and song writer for the Queens. And we don't need phys ed teachers either, what does a bulging torso matter? Who needs exercise when science will cure it?
Falcon
No child left behind is exactly the kind of counterproductive government program to which I was referring, thus proving the underlying conservative principle that more government involvement is not better.
And who brought us No Child Left Behind? Conservatives, that's who.
The poverty argument proves a third conservative principle: that the best means for improving people's lives is a robust competitive economy where the private sector can provide good paying jobs to allow people to lift themselves out of poverty.
But neither conservatives nor so called liberals (who are really socialists and not liberals), neither Democrats nor Republicans, want to allow a free market in the private sector. All of them want big government, the only difference is what part of government is bigger.
Incidentally, just because it's easy to correlate poverty with poor public school performance doesn't mean that the solution is to throw more money at the problem. Why are they poor and poverty stricken? Is it because they don't value education, hard work and initiative? Another conservative principle: the value of individual responsibility.
A conservative again waves a magic wand and declares an answer. Let me ask, have you ever worked with the homeless? Do you know how they got that way? I have and I do, at least with some. Even as a college student I worked for a day labor pool, and almost all of the people there were homeless. Not all but some of those I actually worked with, those sent to the same work site I was sent to, were some of the hardest working people I met. Another question, have you ever served in the military? Again I have. Well you may be asking what's the relevance of the question. That's easy, a lot of the homeless are vets, disabled and otherwise. Homeless Vets: Does Anyone Care?. Vets sacrificed their lives yet they're treated like garbage, though it's not as bad as the vets who returned from Viet Nam.
You may even say I'm part of the problem, being on disability. As a college student I was riding my bike one day after classes when I was hit. That accident left me with a disability. What did I do wrong? I choice to ride my bike at the wrong tyme on the wrong road. According to witnesses the driver of the van that hit me was weaving all over the road and it only a matter of tyme before he hit something. That was more than 10 years ago and only this past summer did I get any help in trying to start working again.
Falcon
nowadays. School principals should have the power to discipline and dismiss bad teachers at their own discretion. Teachers may rant and rail that this will lead to favoritism and other bad -isms, but it's better than using a dry, standardized test designed by some committee thousands of miles away.
Neither one are any good, either making it hard to fire bad teachers or allowing principles to fire teachers on their own discretion. What's needed is a middle path, somewhere between the two extremes. What's to stop a principle from firing a teacher when there's a disagreement between them? Or do you think PHBs don't do that? Principles, and schoolboards, have to held accountable as much as teachers do. And that can be hard, how much money was spent on the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial? I don't like the feds handing out edicts states have to meet but there needs to be some sort of agreement between the states.
Falcon
There are no threats to the US so dumbing down the sheeple and pouring Glenn Beck and fundamentalist religion in their minds is seen as a better course by the elites
For-profit or non-profit, private schools are not dumbing down people. You yourself point out how it was for you in a private Catholic school. Allowing school choice will allow more low income parents to send their children to good private schools. Or public magnate schools.
The truth is the post sounds like a rant.
Falcon
The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Book_of_Chemistry_Experiments , an amazing book now considered dangerous. The book was apparently removed from most public libraries. I think you can find a pdf via the wiki p links though - it is an amazing book.
Check out Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments. Also check out Theo Gray's Mad Science: Experiments You Can Do At Home - But Probably Shouldn't.
While unfortunately I didn't have this book as a kid, I had some others that were similarly "dangerous", along with a chemistry set with most of the necessary chemicals. I made gunpowder once to prove to myself I could do it.
In high school chemistry the teacher would let some of us do our own experiments in the lab, before school, during lunch, and afterwards. To see if it was there a friend and I went to the library and looked in an encyclopaedia for the nitroglycerin entry and from there we thought we could make some. And we did. When we did we'd fill those small paint jars modelers use, then we'd go out into some woods and throw them around. We only did it a couple of tymes before stopping. The first tyme it was a kick, the second tyme though was "We already did this".
Falcon
I think you wasted your tyme replying to a coward. Typically they don't know what personal responsibility is. Or they're too cowardly and want to shrug it off onto others.
As for my wife and me -- we'll take our chances with letting our child explore under our guidance, teaching him to think for himself and understanding important concepts such as responsibility and consequences.
My sister and brother-in-law aren't geeky but I recently sent them some links for Geek Moms and dads.
Falcon
gets crazier when you look at genetics kits. kits meant for 12 year olds that allow them to splice dna from jellyfish into ecoli and stuff to let them extract their own dna from cheek swabs. that stuff definitely didn't exist when I was a kid.
Or electronics kits that let them build radios and simple digital multiplexers.
Twelve is too young to learn to build radios? Heck in 7th grade, when I was 12, I was taking an electricity and electronics class in school. It was only a few months after the school year started when I moved and my new school didn't have anything like it. But by that tyme I was building radios using a paper towel roller to wind stripped copper wire for the tuner. And that was back when everything was analogue not digital. In high school a few of us students were avid scuba divers and we were talking with a biology teacher who was also an avid diver. Because of those talks, we had a number of them, the teacher went to the school's admin and asked if a Marine Biology class could be offered. They came back saying that if enough students signed a petition pledging they would take the class if offered.
Well it didn't take us long and the following year the class was offered for the first tyme. Waiting for the current year to end, it was in the spring, we gathered the material and built a saltwater aquarium for a small sand shark we were given. I laughing now recalling some of what we did afterwards. Not too long before then the movies Jaws and "Jaws II" came out. So people were uptight and scared about them. When it came tyme for us to feed Sofia, the sand shark, we'd break off a piece of shrimp brine which is what she fed her. Then one of us would place the bring in our palm and hold it underwater for Sofia to eat it from our hand. Students who had never watched Sofia been fed would start screaming and saying we should get our hands out of the water or she'd bite it off.
Falcon
Back when I was a kid, you could legitimately blow some shit up with your Jr. Scientist kit. Enthusiast experimenting books from Dad's era suggest using hydrogen cyanide kill the bugs for your bug collection. Stop pussifying science, and maybe kids will be interested again! I'm seeking funding for the Greyfox Science Kit, which will include a 2 inch "supermagnet", samples of lithium and sodium metal, a burner you can hook up to your gas line, a 1 watt laser and... what's that? I'm being the first lawsuit has already been filed...
You have to look for them but you can still find science kits and books like that. Make zine is one such place to look. Well, the Maker Shed store that is but the zine includes some good projects. One of the books the store has is Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments saying how to set up a lab at home. What I noticed last year was that Barnes and Noble Bookstore has started carrying science labs, though basic they can spark interest. For Christmas I wanted to get one for my niece and great niece, that is a couple of labs or replace one or both with a remote controlled helicopter.
That is, you only get the "paper" if your pay the subscription... it is subscription-only.
It says nothing like that, you're making thing up. Yes it says it's a paid for subscription but it does not say ads will not be sold. You even say as much later, "they will reel in the advertisers, probably with loss-leader offerings to existing advertising customers." You say as "loss-leaders" yet I provided what Rupert Murdoch believed about ads, that they should cost even more. Higher ad prices not lower ones. In case there's questions about that let's try News Corp. Launches iPad Pub 'The Daily' With Big Brand Support which says:
"For its inaugural issue, The Daily features interactive ads from around 10 advertisers, in addition to ads for products from other News Corp. properties such as Fox. The interactivity of those ads varies from simple click-to-video executions, such as the one for upcoming Paramount Pictures movie Rango, to more involved app-like experiences like the one on display from Verizon, which enables users to view a range of content and even purchase products without leaving the application." That just the first result out of more than 16 million of googling the daily news corp ipad ads.
Falcon
There's other ways "Christian" has been used. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist who took the Christian Bible and cut out the sections dealing with miracles and the supernatural to create the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson believed Jesus was a great teacher, just not the "Son of God". Those who believe that have been considered Christians by some, though not all. Still another way was with Christian agnosticism.
Falcon
Relying on wikipedia for info is a bad idea
Can you point out where I said wiki was a good source of info? Or did I use as one source among others?
The 4000 year is bullshit anyone who actually reads their bible it has many genealogical records start adding dates it is closer to 6000.
One of those other sources did say 6000 years.
As for the Catholic church they were the ones who persecuted everyone who wasn't a part of their organisation
Just as other churches did. Many of those Christians who burned people on stakes were not Catholics. The Anglican church of England most definitely isn't Catholic but it persecuted others. The Puritans or Pilgrims came to America to escape persecution. Here's a link to a Library of Congress page about America as a refuge for those Christians from one church who were persecuted by Christians from other denominations. King James I "persecuted both Catholics and the extreme Protestant Puritans and Separatists." Yet when the Puritans set up the Massachusetts Bay Colony they in turn persecuted those not of their own church.
So, are you going to admit the truth or are you going to continue to persecute Catholics?
Falcon
Oh, not one of those links above are wiki links.
So Apple's cut is 3% of total revenue. Assuming that web ad revenue is anything close to print ad revenue (once they adjust rates for having verified, paying customers seeing the ads instead of just random surfers.)
Actually because subscribers have the money for an iPad and a subscription Rupert Mordoch believes he can set higher advertising rates. Those people have the money.
Falcon
Yep. When I was in the Bay Area I got a telemarketer calling asking if I wanted to subscribe to the New York Times. I politely told her I wasn't interested because, surprise!, I didn't live in New York. She seemed surprised that that entered in to the equation at all. It was, after all, as she kept saying, "THE New York Times."
I finally just flat out told her that I had been to New York and, frankly, wasn't impressed. Let alone pay money for their paper.
The New York Times does sell subscriptions nationwide. I get spam in snail mail and I'm in the middle of the nation. Between the coasts that is. The Times is the USA's third largest newspaper, behind "The Wall Street Journal" (a News Corp publication) and "USA Today".
Falcon
Established media certainly make money out of advertising. However, with a subscription only service such as this
But is this a subscription only service? TFA does not say. Another article, Five things to know about News Corp’s The Daily iPad app does say "The Daily" will have ads. It even says Rupert Murdoch believes ads "should be sold at a premium as its target audience already has the disposable income to buy an iPad and pay for what is now a discretionary item."
Falcon
there's pretty much no way an iPad app like this is going to consistently bring in enough money to pay off the initial investment, or even keep up with the weekly costs.
Utterly doomed.
If Apple gets 50% and weekly sales are 1.01 million News Corp's operating costs will be paid. If sales are 2.01 million per week News Corp will break even in 60 weeks. And that does not count advertisers.
Of course that changes if Apple gets less, then costs are met in a shorter period.
Falcon
will become popular with other iPad magazine apps like the Economist
At $1 per issue I'd be tempted to subscribe to the Economist. Make it $2 for both electronic and print editions and I'd be more likely to subscribe.
Falcon
I also wonder if Books are doomed. I see amazon is selling The Golden Age of Science Fiction (50 Short Stories + 7 novels), volumes 1-10 for $2 each. Why pay full price for the physical books when I can get the same content downloaded to my Kindle or PC for about the same cost as a 2 candybars?
Some of us love to read and hold paper. Others have difficulty viewing monitors. And they require electricity. None is needed for me to read a magazine or book.
They still charge $36 a year, even if you order the e-edition.
I might pay more for both paper and online editions.
Falcon
Why? Why indeed. Apple's iTunes made $1.1 billion in the first quarter. Now why would anyone want to make a piece of that money? Because they can?
Christians and Catholics are not the same religion. Christians believe astrology is an abomination Catholics invented a religion
You obviously didn't read the wiki article on Christianity and astrology. It was the Catholic church who persecuted those who believed in astrology, not the other way around. Not your version, are you letting your hatred of Catholics show? That would explain your not reading, or totally ignoring, the wiki article.
Catholics invented a religion that incorporated all of their pagan beliefs under the guise of Christianity because Christianity was becoming a popular religion and Emperor Constantine was try to stay ahead of the game.
You don 't know much about history either, or you're making things up. Constantine only changed his beliefs after he had a dream in which a Christian figure told him his troops would be victorious in a battle with the Eastern Orthodox Church. When they won he became a believer. Now whether it was a real change of heart or was politically motivated I don't know. And neither do you.
Also where do you get this 4000 years?
Do you really not know there are Young earthers? Okay some believe it's 6000 years old. We've even had threads here on slashdot about Christian museums saying dinosaurs and humans lived together. And those are not Catholics. At least before he died Pope John Paul II said "God" created the universe with the Big Bang and that life evolved. Those Creationist Young Earthers you don't know about, unless you're lying, criticized the Pope over that. Like you they showed their hatred.
Falcon
... but where it fails is the business model. It assumes that people are willing to pay to access a single aggregation service when so many already exist free of charge.
And where your model fails is where quality is concerned as well as how income is generated. Some people are willing to pay for quality material, and those who give stuff away won't be around for long unless they have deep pockets.
Ever wonder why music and video piracy is so rampant? Yeah, internet users like their free stuff. So given a choice between a 99 cents a week or a zero cents a week price point, most will just take the latter while wondering why the former would even exist.
Ever wonder how Apple's iTunes and other online music download services stay in business? Because they make a profit. iTunes had a first quarter profit of $1.1 billion.
Falcon
Merely a semantic detail. Until the 1800s the word "science" meant "system of knowledge" and applied to philosophy, region, best practices, etc. In the 19th century science acquired its modern mean of reproduceable observations.
Not according to the wiki article on Science. Modern science arose in the 1600s and 1700s during the Scientific revolution. That places it squarely in the Age of Reason and the Age of Enlightenment.
Falcon
This is a science article and according to science the universe is more than 14 billion years old while earth is 4.54 billion years old. But Christians exclaim earth is only 4000 years old.
Christianity preaches against astrology.
Christianity may preach against astrology today but that hasn't always been true. Wiki has the article Christianity and astrology about it. At various periods in history Christian churches did believe in and support astrology.
Falcon