"Unlike the permissive BSD, the GPL license lets developer make choices that you might not like, for the sake of code freedom."
It depends one where you're coming from in general, but the GPL doesn't let developers make some choices. If I work on a GPL project that's that, the code has to remain open. If however I work on a BSD project I can close the source so long as the license allows it, there's more than one BSD license and different projects use different ones.
BSD license = freedom for developers
GPL license = freedom for users
Money can't compensate for some things but it can for others.
I was in a somewhat similar situation a few years ago, and I said no. In my case it was not as bad deal as for darkeye. I would have felt totally miserable if I would agree upon something like this.
If I created a "killer app" or "killer website" and was offered a sum of money to sell it, with a non-compeat clause, I may have to think about it. Was the project something I put my heart and soul into? Is the amount offered $1 million or $1 billion? How much, and under what conditions, would others pay for it? If it was something I just worked on causally and didn't think it was worth much I'd take the million dollars, even with a non-compeat clause because I have other interests. If however it was something important to me and I had no other interests I wouldn't sell for a billion dollars if I couldn't continue working on it the way I wanted to.
Either a clause is legally enforceable, or it is not. If it is not legally enforceable, then by definition, they CANNOT legally enforce it, so it doesn't matter if it's part of a contract that you signed.
It may not be enforcible but you still have to spend money to defend yourself if you're sued. Or maybe a potential employer won't hire you because they don't want to be sued. Even if an agreement isn't legal that doesn't guaranty a lawsuit won't be filed, causing the defendant to spend money which can otherwise be put to good use.
Unless there are any issues that one has with a contract that are not already covered by law, I would strongly recommend against striking anything out.
Yea, be a smuck. On the other hand, if an employer wasn't willing to make some changes in a contract I'd have serious concerns about working for them. For instance what will stop them from firing or laying you off after you signed a non-compeat clause?
If I get money by some means you consider honest, and then use that money to pay people to abduct children and sell them as sex slaves, then holy fuck: what I did with the money was quite a lot more important than how I got it.
Ans what if you made the money by enslaving children to be sex slaves?
Ooh, and not all children sex slaves are adducted. In places like Southeast Asia, parents sell their children into slavery, though the parent may not know that.
Except in most cases a real estate agent doesn't really work for the buyer. Unless an agent is specifically hired as a buyer's agent the agent may tell the seller what you tell them. For instance if you are willing to pay $500,000 for a house but try to get the seller to reduce the price to $450,000 the agent may tell the seller you'll pay $500,000. You avoid this by either paying a buyer's agent to represent you or by going through a Realtor.
I saw nothing about an after-employment perpetual NDA (which some have speculated at, and which I would absolutely recommend against) so if he gets screwed he could just leave and pick up where he left off.
While he doesn't say anything about an NDA he does say they want him to sign a non-competition clause. If he were to sign it he couldn't do the same sort of work after he leaves the employer.
Honstly, if the code is BSD licensed, the only reason they want you to do this is to get rid of competition for their own benefit,
Except they can't get rid of competition. The BSD code is still available and other programmers can use it. The most the employer can do, depending on what BSD license is used, is close any code added.
In open source code under GPL, the code is never ever given away, it is only made available for conditional use of the code
Not quite, the GPL puts conditions on the distribution of the software not on it's use. Users have no restriction, the restrictions are when the user modifies and distributes the code, when they distribute their modified software they have to make available the code including the code they added.
GPL = freedom for users
BSD = freedom for programmers
Anyone who reads the arguments our founding fathers had over these issue would understand that.
Yea, originally Thomas Jefferson was against copyrights and patents. But eventually his friend James Madison convinced Jefferson they could lead to progress. Once thus convinced Jefferson sat down with an actuary table of deaths and calculated they should last 14 years, with one 14 year extension possible.
Because one person took open source code another person wrote.
The fact that the guy actually stole the s/w is secondary, since if he just stole the s/w and did not patent it, there would be no lawsuit.
Ah but the perp, Matthew Katzer, did patent what the code was used in. He then sued the writer of the code, Bob Jacobsen. Instead of knuckling under threat of being sued Bob Jacobsen filed a counter suit claiming that by not following the open source license Matthew Katzer infringed on Bob Jacobsen's copyright.
I don't like Linspire, which I got preinstalled on a PC, so much as I liked the idea behind CNR, Click N Run. I got it more than 2 years ago yet CNR hasn't done much since. They were supposed to create clients for other Linux distros but all they have now is Ubuntu and one other.
Plastic (except from some biopolymers, which have not really caught on yet) is made from oil-based products in an imperfect reaction
However originally plastic was made from plants not petroleum. The plastic Cellophane gets it's name from the cellulose plants produce, of which hemp was a good source. Up until the mid 1930s plastic was made from plants. Then the chemical company DuPont was granted patents on how to make plastics like Nylon from petroleum.
Then industrialists and others pushed to have hemp, which is one of the most industrially useful plants in the world, made illegal with the passage of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. For a brief period during WWII though the federal government encouraged farmers to grow hemp for the war effort. To this end the government made the movie Hemp For Victory to show to farmers.
I'd better end here before I go on more about hemp.
I find it weird that one brings a dead bird to a vet.
TFA doesn't say, at least I didn't see where it was said if it was, that the bird was taken to the vet after it died. The bird could have died at the vet's office.
It's not like the vet can "fix" the bird...
Knowing why the bird died would allow the cause of death to be corrected.
Is this normal behaviour?
I had a cat die and the vet asked if I wanted him to do an autopsy. If I could have afforded it, the vet said it could cost several hundred dollars and I am on disability, I would of had him do an autopsy.
Oh, and the cat died at the vet. It was in bad shape and was suffering so I asked him to put it to sleep.
A bit over 2 years ago when the cat I had died the vet asked me if I wanted him to do an autopsy to find out why it died. I'd certainly expect a vet to offer to do one, knowing why could help prevent something from a premature death.
Got mine in Feb. No dodgy smells. This story smacks of sensationalism
Maybe only certain Mac Pros smell. I wonder if they are all made in the same Chinese factory.
how about knocking the MBP for real reasons? The mains problems I had with it have been that it locks up frequently (especially when/after using Bluetooth, which is irritating as I use Skype for hours each day) or hangs trying to restart.
I'll have had my MacBook Pro 14 months this month, October, and the only problem other than with an external hard drive I had with it is that sometimes it doesn't wake up right away. I'll have to close and reopen it a few tymes to get it to wakeup. While I could take it into the Genius Bar it hasn't aggravated me enough yet.
Had to stop using the Express34 card I got from the Apple Store as that would cause it to lock up reading an external harddrive
The one problem I've had with my external drive, which uses USB though I have a second one that uses Firewire but I haven't used it yet, is that sometimes I can't drag and drop files and folders from one place to another on it. Whether it's a problem with the Mac or the hdd I don't know.
Bad as NT4.
After using Windows almost exclusively for more than 10 years, I finally switched to the Mac last year. During those 10 plus years though NT4 was the most stable and usable Windows I've used. I never had it crash or show me the BSOD.
It's called a blowout - think Red Adair (played by John Wayne in that hilarious film)
"Hellfighters" is one of my favorite movies.
Lusi mud volcano
Yea, I heard about that a couple of years ago. Mud keeps oozing out.
Coal reserves: Reserve estimates of "hundreds of years" are not ones that their proponents defend when challenged. But like I said, this is an area of active research ; my understanding and reporting may be wrong, but I'd like to see the figure you're basing your estimate on.
And of course, all your sources are unimpeachable, deeply imbued with nothing but the essence of honesty, integrity, impartiality, and infallibility. None of the generate global warmist data in at attempt to get more funding and grants.
Exxon has more money to spend on research than Greenpeace does. Overall industry has more resources than environmental groups have, so why isn't there more studies disputing Global Warming than there is supporting it?
Not one of your sources disputes earth is warming up. What they do say is that CO2 should not be attributed to the warming. I've said before that there is a debate on whether the warming is human induced or not.
You have confined your knowledge of the subject to nothing more than that which already agrees with you. That is not science. That is dogma.
You're showing your dogma. If you had done your research you should have seen where I mentioned the debate on whether global warming was human induced.
More complete than your spelling education, I see.
compleat. It's your spelling education that's deficient.
And you aren't discounting or ignoring inconvenient facts as well?
And what facts are those?
it has been for a little while, but for the last few years it's been cooling.
I haven't heard that, but if it is cooling then why was last year the year with the least summer ice in the Arctic? And why was this year have the second least ice cover? If it were cooling then there should be more ice not less.
The problem with your guessing is that you're unable to separate your personal desires and agenda from what should be a rational thought process, hence your dogmatic insistence that anyone questioning your conclusions must be an idiot.
Ah, another mind reader. Slashdot is filled with mindreaders. I wonder why they aren't as wealthy as Warren Buffet.
Slashdot Mirror
"Unlike the permissive BSD, the GPL license lets developer make choices that you might not like, for the sake of code freedom."
It depends one where you're coming from in general, but the GPL doesn't let developers make some choices. If I work on a GPL project that's that, the code has to remain open. If however I work on a BSD project I can close the source so long as the license allows it, there's more than one BSD license and different projects use different ones.
BSD license = freedom for developers
GPL license = freedom for users
Falcon
Money can't compensate for some things but it can for others.
I was in a somewhat similar situation a few years ago, and I said no. In my case it was not as bad deal as for darkeye. I would have felt totally miserable if I would agree upon something like this.
If I created a "killer app" or "killer website" and was offered a sum of money to sell it, with a non-compeat clause, I may have to think about it. Was the project something I put my heart and soul into? Is the amount offered $1 million or $1 billion? How much, and under what conditions, would others pay for it? If it was something I just worked on causally and didn't think it was worth much I'd take the million dollars, even with a non-compeat clause because I have other interests. If however it was something important to me and I had no other interests I wouldn't sell for a billion dollars if I couldn't continue working on it the way I wanted to.
Falcon
Either a clause is legally enforceable, or it is not. If it is not legally enforceable, then by definition, they CANNOT legally enforce it, so it doesn't matter if it's part of a contract that you signed.
It may not be enforcible but you still have to spend money to defend yourself if you're sued. Or maybe a potential employer won't hire you because they don't want to be sued. Even if an agreement isn't legal that doesn't guaranty a lawsuit won't be filed, causing the defendant to spend money which can otherwise be put to good use.
Falcon
Unless there are any issues that one has with a contract that are not already covered by law, I would strongly recommend against striking anything out.
Yea, be a smuck. On the other hand, if an employer wasn't willing to make some changes in a contract I'd have serious concerns about working for them. For instance what will stop them from firing or laying you off after you signed a non-compeat clause?
Falcon
If I get money by some means you consider honest, and then use that money to pay people to abduct children and sell them as sex slaves, then holy fuck: what I did with the money was quite a lot more important than how I got it.
Ans what if you made the money by enslaving children to be sex slaves?
Ooh, and not all children sex slaves are adducted. In places like Southeast Asia, parents sell their children into slavery, though the parent may not know that.
Falcon
That's what happens to projects that use the BSD license.... Use GPL fo your next project.
No, for programmers the BSD license is better. BSD license = freedom for programmers, GPL = freedom for users.
Falcon
With a house you have an agent acting as a proxy.
Except in most cases a real estate agent doesn't really work for the buyer. Unless an agent is specifically hired as a buyer's agent the agent may tell the seller what you tell them. For instance if you are willing to pay $500,000 for a house but try to get the seller to reduce the price to $450,000 the agent may tell the seller you'll pay $500,000. You avoid this by either paying a buyer's agent to represent you or by going through a Realtor.
Falcon
BSD licensing is practically the same thing as throwing your code in a junkyard or landfill. It's a travesty.
GPL = user freedom
BSD = programmer freedom
What's travesty is telling programmers what they can and and not do with their code.
Falcon
I saw nothing about an after-employment perpetual NDA (which some have speculated at, and which I would absolutely recommend against) so if he gets screwed he could just leave and pick up where he left off.
While he doesn't say anything about an NDA he does say they want him to sign a non-competition clause. If he were to sign it he couldn't do the same sort of work after he leaves the employer.
Falcon
Honstly, if the code is BSD licensed, the only reason they want you to do this is to get rid of competition for their own benefit,
Except they can't get rid of competition. The BSD code is still available and other programmers can use it. The most the employer can do, depending on what BSD license is used, is close any code added.
Falcon
In open source code under GPL, the code is never ever given away, it is only made available for conditional use of the code
Not quite, the GPL puts conditions on the distribution of the software not on it's use. Users have no restriction, the restrictions are when the user modifies and distributes the code, when they distribute their modified software they have to make available the code including the code they added.
GPL = freedom for users
BSD = freedom for programmers
Falcon
Anyone who reads the arguments our founding fathers had over these issue would understand that.
Yea, originally Thomas Jefferson was against copyrights and patents. But eventually his friend James Madison convinced Jefferson they could lead to progress. Once thus convinced Jefferson sat down with an actuary table of deaths and calculated they should last 14 years, with one 14 year extension possible.
Falcon
Because one person took open source code another person wrote.
The fact that the guy actually stole the s/w is secondary, since if he just stole the s/w and did not patent it, there would be no lawsuit.
Ah but the perp, Matthew Katzer, did patent what the code was used in. He then sued the writer of the code, Bob Jacobsen. Instead of knuckling under threat of being sued Bob Jacobsen filed a counter suit claiming that by not following the open source license Matthew Katzer infringed on Bob Jacobsen's copyright.
Falcon
I don't like Linspire, which I got preinstalled on a PC, so much as I liked the idea behind CNR, Click N Run. I got it more than 2 years ago yet CNR hasn't done much since. They were supposed to create clients for other Linux distros but all they have now is Ubuntu and one other.
Falcon
Plastic (except from some biopolymers, which have not really caught on yet) is made from oil-based products in an imperfect reaction
However originally plastic was made from plants not petroleum. The plastic Cellophane gets it's name from the cellulose plants produce, of which hemp was a good source. Up until the mid 1930s plastic was made from plants. Then the chemical company DuPont was granted patents on how to make plastics like Nylon from petroleum.
Then industrialists and others pushed to have hemp, which is one of the most industrially useful plants in the world, made illegal with the passage of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. For a brief period during WWII though the federal government encouraged farmers to grow hemp for the war effort. To this end the government made the movie Hemp For Victory to show to farmers.
I'd better end here before I go on more about hemp.
Falcon
I thought the mac pros had this airflow-shaping piece of plastic in their innards.
My HP and no name PC has one too, as I'm pretty sure other OEM PCs have as well.
Falcon
I find it weird that one brings a dead bird to a vet.
TFA doesn't say, at least I didn't see where it was said if it was, that the bird was taken to the vet after it died. The bird could have died at the vet's office.
It's not like the vet can "fix" the bird...
Knowing why the bird died would allow the cause of death to be corrected.
Is this normal behaviour?
I had a cat die and the vet asked if I wanted him to do an autopsy. If I could have afforded it, the vet said it could cost several hundred dollars and I am on disability, I would of had him do an autopsy.
Oh, and the cat died at the vet. It was in bad shape and was suffering so I asked him to put it to sleep.
Falcon
A bit over 2 years ago when the cat I had died the vet asked me if I wanted him to do an autopsy to find out why it died. I'd certainly expect a vet to offer to do one, knowing why could help prevent something from a premature death.
Falcon
Plastic is amongst the "dirtiest" compounds in manufacturing.
I think that depends on what type and what the plastic is made from.
Falcon
Got mine in Feb. No dodgy smells. This story smacks of sensationalism
Maybe only certain Mac Pros smell. I wonder if they are all made in the same Chinese factory.
how about knocking the MBP for real reasons? The mains problems I had with it have been that it locks up frequently (especially when/after using Bluetooth, which is irritating as I use Skype for hours each day) or hangs trying to restart.
I'll have had my MacBook Pro 14 months this month, October, and the only problem other than with an external hard drive I had with it is that sometimes it doesn't wake up right away. I'll have to close and reopen it a few tymes to get it to wakeup. While I could take it into the Genius Bar it hasn't aggravated me enough yet.
Had to stop using the Express34 card I got from the Apple Store as that would cause it to lock up reading an external harddrive
The one problem I've had with my external drive, which uses USB though I have a second one that uses Firewire but I haven't used it yet, is that sometimes I can't drag and drop files and folders from one place to another on it. Whether it's a problem with the Mac or the hdd I don't know.
Bad as NT4.
After using Windows almost exclusively for more than 10 years, I finally switched to the Mac last year. During those 10 plus years though NT4 was the most stable and usable Windows I've used. I never had it crash or show me the BSOD.
Falcon
It's called a blowout - think Red Adair (played by John Wayne in that hilarious film)
"Hellfighters" is one of my favorite movies.
Lusi mud volcano
Yea, I heard about that a couple of years ago. Mud keeps oozing out.
Coal reserves:
Reserve estimates of "hundreds of years" are not ones that their proponents defend when challenged. But like I said, this is an area of active research ; my understanding and reporting may be wrong, but I'd like to see the figure you're basing your estimate on.
It's not my estimate, just what I've heard. Ok, I found this, which backs you up: "Science Panel Finds Fault With Estimates of Coal Supply". It was the first result googling "coal reserves" science.
Falcon
And of course, all your sources are unimpeachable, deeply imbued with nothing but the essence of honesty, integrity, impartiality, and infallibility. None of the generate global warmist data in at attempt to get more funding and grants.
Exxon has more money to spend on research than Greenpeace does. Overall industry has more resources than environmental groups have, so why isn't there more studies disputing Global Warming than there is supporting it?
Falcon
Not one of your sources disputes earth is warming up. What they do say is that CO2 should not be attributed to the warming. I've said before that there is a debate on whether the warming is human induced or not.
You have confined your knowledge of the subject to nothing more than that which already agrees with you. That is not science. That is dogma.
You're showing your dogma. If you had done your research you should have seen where I mentioned the debate on whether global warming was human induced.
Falcon
And yours is compleat?
More complete than your spelling education, I see.
compleat. It's your spelling education that's deficient.
And you aren't discounting or ignoring inconvenient facts as well?
And what facts are those?
it has been for a little while, but for the last few years it's been cooling.
I haven't heard that, but if it is cooling then why was last year the year with the least summer ice in the Arctic? And why was this year have the second least ice cover? If it were cooling then there should be more ice not less.
The problem with your guessing is that you're unable to separate your personal desires and agenda from what should be a rational thought process, hence your dogmatic insistence that anyone questioning your conclusions must be an idiot.
Ah, another mind reader. Slashdot is filled with mindreaders. I wonder why they aren't as wealthy as Warren Buffet.
Falcon
That was my point!
My mistake then.
Falcon