He doesn't forget it, you just can't make money off the carbon trade if people think it is natural. It all has to be your fault, and there has to be something that can be done about it.
I don't make money either way but if Global Warming is true then it will be future generations that will have to pay for what we are causing now.
There is some genetic evidence and cultural evidence a group Japanese 2000 years ago became/interbred with the Zuni...
I met one Native American Indian, she liked to use NDN, who made a remark on how the Ainu of Japan had similarities to the Inuits of Alaska and Canada.
The Inuit peoples (aka Eskimos) are not represented in the study, and are generally considered to have different origins from the First Nations peoples. I wonder how their inclusion would have fit with the rest of the data.
Seeing as how the Inuit of the US and Canada are related to the Inuit of Iceland and the Sami and Laplanders of the Artic and Northern Europe it could have thrown a hole in their theory.
The land bridge connecting Siberia to North America was still in existence 6000 years ago, and there was most likely migration into and out of the Siberian territory and North America between 12,000 years ago and 6,000 years ago.
However Monte Verde, Chile existed more than 1000 years before the Siberia Alaska bridge existed.
Either Monte Verde is bogus or it means that an earlier population just simply died out.
The people from Monte Verde didn't have to die off, they could have migrated. They may even have interbred with others. Few if any tribes didn't intermarry or interbred.
all modern humans (homo sapiens sapiens, as they're known) can be traced back to a single maternal ancestor via mitochondrial RNA. is that what you meant? do some research on 'Lucy'.
There is no proof of "Eve" out of Africa, even Mt RNA, just as there is no proof of the Multiregional hypothesis. Here's a paper on GENETICS AND RECENT HUMAN EVOLUTION discussing some flaws in studies suporting the Out of Africa hypothesis.
Does this kill the idea that some South Americans got here by sailing across the Pacific?
I don't think so. Neither TFAs say anything about Monte Verde, Chile which existed more than 1000 years before the Siberia Alaska land bridge existed. And Monte Verde is the furthest south you can get and still be in the Americas.
If you look at people from Central Asia (Persia, Kazakhstan, etc.), they resembled Europeans much more than East Asians. I'm sure some of the migration from Asia stemmed from Central Asia.
Some Europeans did migrate from Central Asia or India. One such group was the Aryans who had migrated from India.
starting several thousand years ago, humanity started migrating out of Africa
Oh really? Monte Verde, Chile is date earlier than 12,000 BP (Before Present). Monte Verde is the furthest south you can get and still be in America yet it was founded before the Siberia Alaska land bridge existed.
You do know that we got our idea of a Republic from the Iriquois Confederacy, right? Obviously, you didn't get very accurate or in depth "native American heritage".
I haven't ever heard that, but admittedly I don't know a whole lot about Native American heritage. I assumed that our idea of a Republic came from Greek, Roman, and European sources. What evidence is there that it stemmed directly from the Iroquois?
"In 1727 political theorist and scholar Cadwallader Colden wrote of the Iroquois Confederacy: "The Five Nations have such absolute Notions of Liberty that they allow no Kind of Superiority of one over another, and banish all Servitude from their Territories."[3] The five nations of what is today the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York--the Onondagas, the Senecas, the Mohawks, the Cayugas, and the Oneidas--had ended their intertribal warfare and formed a federal union in approximately 1200. The constitution uniting the nations was called Kaianrekowa, the Great Law of Peace. Recorded and preserved in wampum, this document codified laws for each nation, rules for the confederacy, and consistent rights protection for all citizens. National membership remained open, and other peoples joined the confederacy. The northeastern body eventually became known as the Six Nations after the formal addition of the Tuscaroras around 1714."
The idea of the form of government came from the Iroquois Confederacy however while the Iroquois also had liberty the liberty envisioned by the USA's Founding Fathers especially with Thomas Jefferson was grounded in the Age of Enlightenment in Europe.
China's fleets knew how to prevent scurvy. Did the Europeans of the day?
One way to prevent scurvy is by eating citrus fruit like oranges and despite both California and Florida growing a lot of oranges, oranges are native to Asia, China.
4. The origin of Columbus' maps (which he refers to having in his log books) is a matter of extensive debate. Some say they were nordic, some say Chinese. Lots of theories... but the charts did not survive history, and no one really knows.
I've heard of the Basque as originators of maps to the Americas as well.
I don't recall China going geographically outside her borders
Neither Taiwan nor Tibet are Chinese. In 1947 Chang Ki Chek's KTM invaded Formosa AKA Taiwan. Then in 1959 Mao invaded Tibet and declared it part of China. However historically Tibet was an independent nation. Tibet only had a defense treaty with China prior to the revolution. Before Mao united mainland China there was no united China as there is today.
China's relations with other states in the 15th century was varied, and assimilation/domination of other cultures was definitely within their repertoire.
And hasn't changed, either: Taiwan, Tibet etc.
While many of those who've heard of Tibet know it was invaded by China, it's nice to see someone especially here on/. that knows Taiwan isn't Chinese. When Chang Kai Chek's Nationalist Army invaded Formosa, Taiwan to many, between 18,000 and 28,000 Formosans were massacred by the KMT who then subjugated another 20 million Formosans. A date with a lot of meaning to Formosans is 28 February 1947.
I would say that there are interesting differences between a freed black slave, an American Indian who lost his land and the people Saddam wronged. The most important difference is that one is alive today. This is why a lot of people can relate. It is easier to relate to things that are alive then dead.
Ah, but there are American Indians alive today who are loosing their land. Ever hear of Yucca Mountain? The Treaty of Ruby Valley [1863] promised to the Western Shoshone Nation Yucca Mountain, the very same place Bush wants to make the permanent nuclear waste storage site. By siting the waste there another treaty is being broken by the US.
We aren't personally responsible for Saddam's treatment of his constituents,
"We", generically mind you, aren't personally responsible but the US has to shoulder some responsibility for Saddam. Throughout the 1980s and early '90s the Reagan and Bush Sr admins supported Saddam, even while he was using all of those WMDs. By 1989 it was confirmed he used chemical weapons not only against Iran but also against Kurds, March Arabs, and others inside Iraq. But Reagan and Bush Sr kept supporting him. Bush Sr only stopped his support once Saddam invaded Kuwait. And why did Saddam invade? Because Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq's Rumailah Oil Field.
Native: been here a long time.
More native: Been here a longer time than you.
Gotcha, But wouldn't after a period of time, would we be both be beyond a point where it wouldn't/shouldn't matter?
Yeah, it's beyond the point when the living have no memory of discrimination, genocide, or having your land stolen. And there are still living Native American Indians who have memories of these. As late as the 1970s Native American Indian Women were being systematically and forcibly sterilized. Even now the US, er Pres Bush, is seeking to break another treaty in a line of broken treaties, the Treaty of Ruby Valley [1863] which promised to the Western Shoshone Indians Yucca Mountain.
if I had my preference I would take wired over wireless anyday
Just as with phone service, I only have a cellphone, I'd take wireless over wired. That way I can take it with me. I've got cable now but given the chance, if my ISP were to offer broadband wireless, I'd take that so long as it didn't cost too much. Of course I could make more use of it than some others would. Next year I hope to get into photography and with WiMax or some other wireless broadband using a Digital SLR and my laptop I could upload photos to a server while out in the field.
A gigabyte going up is not the same as a gigabyte going down.
And here all this tyme I though 1 gigabyte was 1 gigabyte (1024 bytes) just like 1 byte was 1 byte no matter where it was, where it was going, or how it got there.
And in neither case, Mr. Mark Cuban should have anything to complain about.
If his connection is DSL and is not "shared", his complaint is baseless, since what other users do should not affect his own bandwidth in any case.
Actually I was wrong when I said DSL wasn't a shared connection. According to wiki DSL can be shared:
"Dsl#History_and_science" ...
"DSL service was first provided over a dedicated "dry loop", but when the FCC required the incumbent local exchange carriers ILECs to lease their lines to competing providers such as Earthlink, shared-line DSL became common."
Mark Cuban has more than enough money to afford an OC3 connection and had no reason to complain.
One professor I had maintained his own server while I was taking his classes. He had the syllabus, class notes and assignments, and course schedule for each class along with a message board the students could use to chat.
So you just kinda owned yourself there eh?
Students had to visit the classes' websites, but the prof basically furnished much of what the students needed. Though some came to class with everything printed out others went ahead and printed before class started. Another thing he did I hadn't seen other profs do was he didn't use any assigned textbooks. Instead he included a list of books he recommended and told everyone to use whichever book worked for them. This made it hard to fellow the class as different books use different sequences for the chapters. I thought it would of been better if he had used one book as a guideline and followed the way the book was laid out but still recommended additional books.
Nicely taken out of context, which was internet connections *in China*.
You didn't say "I've yet to hear of a 100Mbps connection in China though." A 100Mbs connection could be applied anywhere if not stated where, and that's what I took it to mean.
Regardless of your opinion about the war, and even if you think it was the worst idea in history, and even if you are not a U.S. citizen, I urge you to think for yourself about what Cuban and DePalma have done here. Their actions put the U.S. and the world in more danger by fomenting anti-U.S. sentiment, particularly among Muslims.
If you're on DSL, that means that your speed is limited only by what you download. Since he's complaining about other people taking up speeds, he probably has Cable.
DSL has joined cable as a shared connection:
"Digital subscriber line"
"History and science" ...
"DSL service was first provided over a dedicated "dry loop", but when the FCC required the incumbent local exchange carriers ILECs to lease their lines to competing providers such as Earthlink, shared-line DSL became common."
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He doesn't forget it, you just can't make money off the carbon trade if people think it is natural. It all has to be your fault, and there has to be something that can be done about it.
I don't make money either way but if Global Warming is true then it will be future generations that will have to pay for what we are causing now.
FalconThere is some genetic evidence and cultural evidence a group Japanese 2000 years ago became/interbred with the Zuni...
I met one Native American Indian, she liked to use NDN, who made a remark on how the Ainu of Japan had similarities to the Inuits of Alaska and Canada.
FalconThe Inuit peoples (aka Eskimos) are not represented in the study, and are generally considered to have different origins from the First Nations peoples. I wonder how their inclusion would have fit with the rest of the data.
Seeing as how the Inuit of the US and Canada are related to the Inuit of Iceland and the Sami and Laplanders of the Artic and Northern Europe it could have thrown a hole in their theory.
FalconThe land bridge connecting Siberia to North America was still in existence 6000 years ago, and there was most likely migration into and out of the Siberian territory and North America between 12,000 years ago and 6,000 years ago.
However Monte Verde, Chile existed more than 1000 years before the Siberia Alaska bridge existed.
FalconWe have found some fossil remains that predate that (as in, more than 12000 years ago) by quite a bit.
Such as Monte Verde, Chile.
FalconEither Monte Verde is bogus or it means that an earlier population just simply died out.
The people from Monte Verde didn't have to die off, they could have migrated. They may even have interbred with others. Few if any tribes didn't intermarry or interbred.
Falconall modern humans (homo sapiens sapiens, as they're known) can be traced back to a single maternal ancestor via mitochondrial RNA. is that what you meant? do some research on 'Lucy'.
There is no proof of "Eve" out of Africa, even Mt RNA, just as there is no proof of the Multiregional hypothesis. Here's a paper on GENETICS AND RECENT HUMAN EVOLUTION discussing some flaws in studies suporting the Out of Africa hypothesis.
FalconDoes this kill the idea that some South Americans got here by sailing across the Pacific?
I don't think so. Neither TFAs say anything about Monte Verde, Chile which existed more than 1000 years before the Siberia Alaska land bridge existed. And Monte Verde is the furthest south you can get and still be in the Americas.
FalconIf you look at people from Central Asia (Persia, Kazakhstan, etc.), they resembled Europeans much more than East Asians. I'm sure some of the migration from Asia stemmed from Central Asia.
Some Europeans did migrate from Central Asia or India. One such group was the Aryans who had migrated from India.
Falconstarting several thousand years ago, humanity started migrating out of Africa
Oh really? Monte Verde, Chile is date earlier than 12,000 BP (Before Present). Monte Verde is the furthest south you can get and still be in America yet it was founded before the Siberia Alaska land bridge existed.
FalconYou do know that we got our idea of a Republic from the Iriquois Confederacy, right? Obviously, you didn't get very accurate or in depth "native American heritage".
I haven't ever heard that, but admittedly I don't know a whole lot about Native American heritage. I assumed that our idea of a Republic came from Greek, Roman, and European sources. What evidence is there that it stemmed directly from the Iroquois?
The idea of the form of government came from the Iroquois Confederacy however while the Iroquois also had liberty the liberty envisioned by the USA's Founding Fathers especially with Thomas Jefferson was grounded in the Age of Enlightenment in Europe.
FalconChina's fleets knew how to prevent scurvy. Did the Europeans of the day?
One way to prevent scurvy is by eating citrus fruit like oranges and despite both California and Florida growing a lot of oranges, oranges are native to Asia, China.
Falcon4. The origin of Columbus' maps (which he refers to having in his log books) is a matter of extensive debate. Some say they were nordic, some say Chinese. Lots of theories... but the charts did not survive history, and no one really knows.
I've heard of the Basque as originators of maps to the Americas as well.
FalconI don't recall China going geographically outside her borders
Neither Taiwan nor Tibet are Chinese. In 1947 Chang Ki Chek's KTM invaded Formosa AKA Taiwan. Then in 1959 Mao invaded Tibet and declared it part of China. However historically Tibet was an independent nation. Tibet only had a defense treaty with China prior to the revolution. Before Mao united mainland China there was no united China as there is today.
FalconChina's relations with other states in the 15th century was varied, and assimilation/domination of other cultures was definitely within their repertoire.
And hasn't changed, either: Taiwan, Tibet etc.
While many of those who've heard of Tibet know it was invaded by China, it's nice to see someone especially here on /. that knows Taiwan isn't Chinese. When Chang Kai Chek's Nationalist Army invaded Formosa, Taiwan to many, between 18,000 and 28,000 Formosans were massacred by the KMT who then subjugated another 20 million Formosans. A date with a lot of meaning to Formosans is 28 February 1947.
FalconI would say that there are interesting differences between a freed black slave, an American Indian who lost his land and the people Saddam wronged. The most important difference is that one is alive today. This is why a lot of people can relate. It is easier to relate to things that are alive then dead.
Ah, but there are American Indians alive today who are loosing their land. Ever hear of Yucca Mountain? The Treaty of Ruby Valley [1863] promised to the Western Shoshone Nation Yucca Mountain, the very same place Bush wants to make the permanent nuclear waste storage site. By siting the waste there another treaty is being broken by the US.
FalconWe aren't personally responsible for Saddam's treatment of his constituents,
"We", generically mind you, aren't personally responsible but the US has to shoulder some responsibility for Saddam. Throughout the 1980s and early '90s the Reagan and Bush Sr admins supported Saddam, even while he was using all of those WMDs. By 1989 it was confirmed he used chemical weapons not only against Iran but also against Kurds, March Arabs, and others inside Iraq. But Reagan and Bush Sr kept supporting him. Bush Sr only stopped his support once Saddam invaded Kuwait. And why did Saddam invade? Because Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraq's Rumailah Oil Field.
FalconNative: been here a long time.
More native: Been here a longer time than you.
Gotcha, But wouldn't after a period of time, would we be both be beyond a point where it wouldn't/shouldn't matter?
Yeah, it's beyond the point when the living have no memory of discrimination, genocide, or having your land stolen. And there are still living Native American Indians who have memories of these. As late as the 1970s Native American Indian Women were being systematically and forcibly sterilized. Even now the US, er Pres Bush, is seeking to break another treaty in a line of broken treaties, the Treaty of Ruby Valley [1863] which promised to the Western Shoshone Indians Yucca Mountain.
Falconif I had my preference I would take wired over wireless anyday
Just as with phone service, I only have a cellphone, I'd take wireless over wired. That way I can take it with me. I've got cable now but given the chance, if my ISP were to offer broadband wireless, I'd take that so long as it didn't cost too much. Of course I could make more use of it than some others would. Next year I hope to get into photography and with WiMax or some other wireless broadband using a Digital SLR and my laptop I could upload photos to a server while out in the field.
FalconA gigabyte going up is not the same as a gigabyte going down.
And here all this tyme I though 1 gigabyte was 1 gigabyte (1024 bytes) just like 1 byte was 1 byte no matter where it was, where it was going, or how it got there.
FalconGreat.
And in neither case, Mr. Mark Cuban should have anything to complain about.
If his connection is DSL and is not "shared", his complaint is baseless, since what other users do should not affect his own bandwidth in any case.
Actually I was wrong when I said DSL wasn't a shared connection. According to wiki DSL can be shared:
"Dsl#History_and_science"
...
"DSL service was first provided over a dedicated "dry loop", but when the FCC required the incumbent local exchange carriers ILECs to lease their lines to competing providers such as Earthlink, shared-line DSL became common."
Mark Cuban has more than enough money to afford an OC3 connection and had no reason to complain.
One professor I had maintained his own server while I was taking his classes. He had the syllabus, class notes and assignments, and course schedule for each class along with a message board the students could use to chat.
So you just kinda owned yourself there eh?
Students had to visit the classes' websites, but the prof basically furnished much of what the students needed. Though some came to class with everything printed out others went ahead and printed before class started. Another thing he did I hadn't seen other profs do was he didn't use any assigned textbooks. Instead he included a list of books he recommended and told everyone to use whichever book worked for them. This made it hard to fellow the class as different books use different sequences for the chapters. I thought it would of been better if he had used one book as a guideline and followed the way the book was laid out but still recommended additional books.
FalconNicely taken out of context, which was internet connections *in China*.
You didn't say "I've yet to hear of a 100Mbps connection in China though." A 100Mbs connection could be applied anywhere if not stated where, and that's what I took it to mean.
FalconRegardless of your opinion about the war, and even if you think it was the worst idea in history, and even if you are not a U.S. citizen, I urge you to think for yourself about what Cuban and DePalma have done here. Their actions put the U.S. and the world in more danger by fomenting anti-U.S. sentiment, particularly among Muslims.
Bush has done quite well in that department.
FalconIf you're on DSL, that means that your speed is limited only by what you download. Since he's complaining about other people taking up speeds, he probably has Cable.
DSL has joined cable as a shared connection:
"Digital subscriber line"
...
Falcon"History and science"
"DSL service was first provided over a dedicated "dry loop", but when the FCC required the incumbent local exchange carriers ILECs to lease their lines to competing providers such as Earthlink, shared-line DSL became common."