...box cutters, banning them... just made it much more troublesome for the many honest airline passengers
I can't help but wonder - how? (especially "many")
I used to be able to get to the airport and go through check-in 30 minutes, maybe an hour, before takeoff. But now I wouldn't get there later than 2 hours before. I dehydrate easily and so I always carry a drink with me. Now I can't take my drink on board. I grew up always having a pocket knife guess where? In my pocket. Taking that on board is out now too. Heck, maybe half of the boys in my high school also carried one, and some of the girls. The biggest concern I had growing up was nuclear launches, in school we'd have drills much like fire drills but for nuclear attacks. Now my biggest concern is government.
There are worse things that can happen than losing a bit of your privacy to a government you cant trust.
How many people have terrorists killed? Now how many people have governments killed? In the past century NAZIs killed more than 600,000 Jews alone. At the same tyme Stalin's Soviet Union killed 20 million and Mao 60 million in China. More recently, from 1975 to '79 the Khmer Rouge beat the NAZIs body count, estimates of more than a million were executed. At the same tyme with the support of the US Indonesia's ruler Gen Suharto ordered the invasion of East Timor. After the 1975 invasion 200,000 East Timorese, 1/3 the population, were killed. Also in 1979, and after, people in Iran were persecuted for not living according to Sharia Law. Next door in Iraq throughout the 1980s and '90s Saddam ordered chemical weapons be used against others in Iraq. Or take Rwanda, in 1994 an estimated 800,000 people were mass murdered.
Still think terrorists are a greater threat than government?
you buy status symbols for conspicuous consumption.
I don't know about other Apple hardware, and don't care, but Macs are more than just that. Mac hardware is better than typical PC hardware. And up until Windows 7 OSX was clearly more stable and usable than MS OSes.
As a PC user I look occasionally at why to use a Mac but the one button mouse and high prices keep turning me to the competition
Apple's Magic Mouse is a 2 button mouse. Or third party mice can be used. Next to the MacBook Pro I'm typing this on I have a Logitech Trackman Trackball with 2 buttons and a wheel. I also keep a second one in the bag. However I can also simulate 2 buttons, just as I did when I used Windows. Just as holding down the alt/opt or CTRL key when clicking the mouse with Windows and Linux, I do the same on my Mac. In Firefox and Safari holding down the apple key when clicking a link opens it in a new tab. If I hold down the ctrl instead a menu pops up giving me different options.
As for price, 1999 calling, it wants its mime back. Mac prices are comparable to Windows PC prices. Starting with Macs first though, Apple does not offer the range of computers Windows and Linux PC OEMs offer. Before I ever got my Mac I compared different Mac and PC OEM configurations and prices. Mac prices were within the price range of different Windows PC prices. Actually Dell and HP laptops with similar configurations cost about $200 more than the MacBook Pro I got.
A better comparison to the iPad is the Modbook. Axiotron, who makes them, took real MacBooks and replaced the lid/monitor with a Wacom tablet. As such they run OS X 10.6 or Snow Leopard not iOS or whatever.
Look at 1929. Unemployment then was less than 5%. In 1930 it more than doubled, then doubled again in 1931.
Excuse me, but FDR didn't take office until 1933.You're doing the same thing that the Right is doing today.
Not at all. I did not blame FDR for the Great Depression but I do blame him for lengthening it. I even gave the date FDR took office, "4 March 1933." No, I brought up 1929 because that was when the protectionist Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act became law and it shut down international trade. I quite clearly stated that.
A lot of the way you see FDR depends on whether you think government exists for the benefit of people or the benefit of corporations
You left one out one way of seeing government, if government exists for the benefit of the politicians who make the laws and the bureaucrats that runs government. As for how I see it, just as most mind readers on slashdot are, you're wrong, I see it as a combination of different things. As they say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That applies in business and in government. Businesses can, and do, actually use power to bribe or control politicians. And they've been successful at it.
We need another FDR.
No, we need another Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson warned about the corporate aristocracy: "I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." --Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816. In his first 100 days though FDR signed the National Industrial Recovery Act which suspended corporate anti-trust law enforcement. You know those laws that forbid corporations with conspiring with each other to control prices and wages? Later FDR made it illegal for employers to give employees raises. Of course that suited corporations, they could blame government for not giving employees raises.
Sure farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism.
?
If American farms are subsidized by the government, resulting in lower priced goods, then their food is cheaper than the food of other countries.
Did you even read what I wrote before replying? Nowhere did I say American farms are not subsidized, quite the contrary, I said "farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations" however the missing praise here is where I also say "but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism." None of what I said, and you quoted, has anything to do with food from other countries.
This subsidization causes a downward pressure on crops pushing American farms to ever further increase yield
You don't know much about economics either do you? Or about farm subsidies. Farm subsidies have nothing to do with "pushing American farms to ever further increase yield". Farmers in the US actually get subsidies for Not farming. Congress has approved conservation subsidies which pay farmers to not cultivate land.
Food stamps inherently lead to overconsumption of food, especially of American produced food.
Where does this come from? Food stamps help people buy food, and they don't care where the food comes from. Because I am disabled and my only income is disability I get food stamps myself, less than $50 a month. Earlier this week I bought some bananas from Ecuador with them. Yesterday I baked stuffed peppers for dinner as well as to freeze, those peppers came from Canada, grown in a hothouse I bet. I sometimes bake with quinoa which is a grain that comes from Bolivia in South America.
None of what I said was anti-capitalist/free market
What is all this "pro-business", "higher taxes", "megacorps", and "Wal-Mart" about then?
Nobody believes that but you, apparently. FDR was a wealthy elitist personally. His policies and leadership provided a light to the US citizens during a very very dark period.
Plenty of economists, you known the ones with economic training, also believe FDR lengthened the Great Depression. You want some data? Try this: The Recovery from the Great Depression of the 1930s. Look for the unemployment rate chart on that page. In 1932 unemployment was above 20% with 1933 figures a couple of percent higher before dropping a few percent in 1934. Now when did FDR enter office? On 4 March 1933. Unemployment didn't drop below 10% until 1942. FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate has more data.
Look at 1929. Unemployment then was less than 5%. In 1930 it more than doubled, then doubled again in 1931. Guess what happened in 1929? The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was passed and signed becoming law in the US. So what? It raised tariffs on imports. So what do other nations do? They raise their own tariffs which almost shuts down international trade. All those US employees working for exporters lost their jobs. Of course to people like you that's alright, we can't lose US jobs to cheap imports.
Now look at the The National Income Accounts for the Great Depression in the U.S. chart. In 1929 US exports were 35.6, in 1930 29.4, and in 1932 was 19.1 Exports didn't reach 30 again until 1939. Investment levels didn't reach it's 1929 level, investments create employment, until 1937.
There's an effort now by the Right to re-write history, and say that "FDR was really an awful president. His administration didn't end the Great Depression."
FDR did not end the Great Depression, he lengthened it.
Ah, another person who fell for the fable that liberals are getting elected. Not one Liberal has been elected president since the 1800s. Then again said enough tymes people start believing lies, like liberals are for big government. They then spread those same lies. The fact is is that the closest the US has to liberals today are libertarians.
megacorps trying to corner the market (look at agribusiness and food stamps or defense contractors and defense spending) still have an amazingly strong, if not strict fascist, grip on government spending.
Sure farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism. Individual people get food stamps not corporations and they can use them wherever food stamps are accepted.
The rest of this anti-capitalist/free market rant doesn't show any more knowledge or reasoning either.
As far back as the Franklin Roosevelt administration, in 1933, when it looked for a minute like the US government might actually start putting people ahead of corporate interests, a group of men, owners of some of our largest industries, including the grandfather of George W. Bush plotted to over throw and replace him with a pro-corporate Fascist regime.
What you say sounds too ideal for a country that is the epitome of the capitalist system.
The best example is the health care. I think there is nothing else to say.
Except the US has a mixed system not a free trade or capitalist system. In a free market health care would be better than it is.
It also justifies writing off a hostage to capture a criminal.
Except some, though maybe not all, of the USA's Founding Fathers thought it was better to free 10 criminals than to falsely punish an innocent.
The are some seriously unpleasant court cases and laws out there.
And again the Founding Fathers thought jury nullification, in which a jury tells the government a law is bad or can not be enforced, was important. John Adams wrote in his diary on 12 February 1771:
"...As the constitution requires that the popular branch of the legislature should have an absolute check, so as to put a peremptory negative upon every act of the government, it requires that the common people, should have as complete a control, as decisive as the negative, in every judgment of a court of judicature...."
"...It was never yet disputed or doubted that a general verdict, given under the direction of the court in point of law, was a legal determination of the issue. Therefore, the jury have a power of deciding an issue, upon a general verdict. And, if they have, is it not an absurdity to suppose that the law would oblige them to find a verdict according to the direction of the court, against their own opinion, judgment, and conscience?"
"...Now, should the melancholy case arise that the judges should give their opinions to the jury against one of these fundamental principles, is a juror obliged to give his verdict generally, according to this direction, or even to find the fact specially, and submit the law to the court? Every man, of any feeling or conscience, will answer, no. It is not only his right, but his duty,...to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court...."
The only way things can be "artificial" is if you have a model of feudalism where there is a poltiical elite which holds all the power.
That seems to be what has become of the US. Look at the Bushes and Kennedys, for example.
Bill and Hillary Clinton disproves that. They had no family members who were politically elite to begin with. Neither did Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan.
Few of us will be so fortunate as to live even a hundred years in relatively good health.
I haven't reached 50 years of life yet, and I don't care if I don't live another year. At least not how my life is now.
A person who lives in Bohemian semi-poverty but is rich in friends, ideas, and experiences is wiser than a friendless man who accumulates wealth so vast it can't be experienced except as an abstraction.
But who is richer, the Bohemian or the wealthy person who uses the money to encourage and grow ideas and experiences making friends along the way?
So were the Germans. In 1943 Hitler himself ordered the execution of Italians on the Greek Island of Cephalonia who surrendered to the allied forces. In what became known as the Cephalonia Massacre the German military commenced the "Weeklong Massacre of the Acqui Division" of Italians. Soldiers didn't even have to surrender, Germans went around rounding them up.
The US itself has done more than enough backstabbing. The US has broken a number of treaties it has signed. It has supported right wing dictators and coups against democratic governments when it felt like it. And it has supported mass murderers and genocide. Both Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr supported Saddam Hussein, even as he was ordering the use of WMDs against not just Iranians but Iraqis too.
While I'd use Ubuntu on my desktop, I plan on installing it on my MacBook Pro, I don't know which distro I'd use for a server. I've got a PC that's almost 5 years old and I want to upgrade it as a server when I do I may try different distros.
They run it as a desktop OS that replaces Windows and requires minimal fucking around to set up and use... And there are a lot of people (myself included) who would be running Windows now if Ubuntu weren't so functional out of the box.
I'd be using MS Windows if MS weren't such dicks. I switched from Windows, to Linux first then Mac OS X, because I was sick and tired of crashes and don't like being treated like a criminal. Which is what Activation and WGA/WPA do.
something that was skillfully left out of this slashdot article but is mentioned many times over and over in the original article. its only installed on OEM installations.
Also of note is that TFA also says it was uploaded to the repository. The very first sentence is "Just uploaded to the Ubuntu Lucid repository for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (and we imagine it will appear shortly in Maverick too for Ubuntu 10.10) is a new package called canonical-census, which marks its initial release."
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...box cutters, banning them ... just made it much more troublesome for the many honest airline passengers
I can't help but wonder - how? (especially "many")
I used to be able to get to the airport and go through check-in 30 minutes, maybe an hour, before takeoff. But now I wouldn't get there later than 2 hours before. I dehydrate easily and so I always carry a drink with me. Now I can't take my drink on board. I grew up always having a pocket knife guess where? In my pocket. Taking that on board is out now too. Heck, maybe half of the boys in my high school also carried one, and some of the girls. The biggest concern I had growing up was nuclear launches, in school we'd have drills much like fire drills but for nuclear attacks. Now my biggest concern is government.
Falcon
There are worse things that can happen than losing a bit of your privacy to a government you cant trust.
How many people have terrorists killed? Now how many people have governments killed? In the past century NAZIs killed more than 600,000 Jews alone. At the same tyme Stalin's Soviet Union killed 20 million and Mao 60 million in China. More recently, from 1975 to '79 the Khmer Rouge beat the NAZIs body count, estimates of more than a million were executed. At the same tyme with the support of the US Indonesia's ruler Gen Suharto ordered the invasion of East Timor. After the 1975 invasion 200,000 East Timorese, 1/3 the population, were killed. Also in 1979, and after, people in Iran were persecuted for not living according to Sharia Law. Next door in Iraq throughout the 1980s and '90s Saddam ordered chemical weapons be used against others in Iraq. Or take Rwanda, in 1994 an estimated 800,000 people were mass murdered.
Still think terrorists are a greater threat than government?
Falcon
you buy status symbols for conspicuous consumption.
I don't know about other Apple hardware, and don't care, but Macs are more than just that. Mac hardware is better than typical PC hardware. And up until Windows 7 OSX was clearly more stable and usable than MS OSes.
Falcon
As a PC user I look occasionally at why to use a Mac but the one button mouse and high prices keep turning me to the competition
Apple's Magic Mouse is a 2 button mouse. Or third party mice can be used. Next to the MacBook Pro I'm typing this on I have a Logitech Trackman Trackball with 2 buttons and a wheel. I also keep a second one in the bag. However I can also simulate 2 buttons, just as I did when I used Windows. Just as holding down the alt/opt or CTRL key when clicking the mouse with Windows and Linux, I do the same on my Mac. In Firefox and Safari holding down the apple key when clicking a link opens it in a new tab. If I hold down the ctrl instead a menu pops up giving me different options.
As for price, 1999 calling, it wants its mime back. Mac prices are comparable to Windows PC prices. Starting with Macs first though, Apple does not offer the range of computers Windows and Linux PC OEMs offer. Before I ever got my Mac I compared different Mac and PC OEM configurations and prices. Mac prices were within the price range of different Windows PC prices. Actually Dell and HP laptops with similar configurations cost about $200 more than the MacBook Pro I got.
Falcon
A better comparison to the iPad is the Modbook. Axiotron, who makes them, took real MacBooks and replaced the lid/monitor with a Wacom tablet. As such they run OS X 10.6 or Snow Leopard not iOS or whatever.
Falcon
Look at 1929. Unemployment then was less than 5%. In 1930 it more than doubled, then doubled again in 1931.
Excuse me, but FDR didn't take office until 1933.You're doing the same thing that the Right is doing today.
Not at all. I did not blame FDR for the Great Depression but I do blame him for lengthening it. I even gave the date FDR took office, "4 March 1933." No, I brought up 1929 because that was when the protectionist Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act became law and it shut down international trade. I quite clearly stated that.
A lot of the way you see FDR depends on whether you think government exists for the benefit of people or the benefit of corporations
You left one out one way of seeing government, if government exists for the benefit of the politicians who make the laws and the bureaucrats that runs government. As for how I see it, just as most mind readers on slashdot are, you're wrong, I see it as a combination of different things. As they say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That applies in business and in government. Businesses can, and do, actually use power to bribe or control politicians. And they've been successful at it.
We need another FDR.
No, we need another Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson warned about the corporate aristocracy: "I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." --Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816. In his first 100 days though FDR signed the National Industrial Recovery Act which suspended corporate anti-trust law enforcement. You know those laws that forbid corporations with conspiring with each other to control prices and wages? Later FDR made it illegal for employers to give employees raises. Of course that suited corporations, they could blame government for not giving employees raises.
Falcon
Sure farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism.
?
If American farms are subsidized by the government, resulting in lower priced goods, then their food is cheaper than the food of other countries.
Did you even read what I wrote before replying? Nowhere did I say American farms are not subsidized, quite the contrary, I said "farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations" however the missing praise here is where I also say "but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism." None of what I said, and you quoted, has anything to do with food from other countries.
This subsidization causes a downward pressure on crops pushing American farms to ever further increase yield
You don't know much about economics either do you? Or about farm subsidies. Farm subsidies have nothing to do with "pushing American farms to ever further increase yield". Farmers in the US actually get subsidies for Not farming. Congress has approved conservation subsidies which pay farmers to not cultivate land.
Food stamps inherently lead to overconsumption of food, especially of American produced food.
Where does this come from? Food stamps help people buy food, and they don't care where the food comes from. Because I am disabled and my only income is disability I get food stamps myself, less than $50 a month. Earlier this week I bought some bananas from Ecuador with them. Yesterday I baked stuffed peppers for dinner as well as to freeze, those peppers came from Canada, grown in a hothouse I bet. I sometimes bake with quinoa which is a grain that comes from Bolivia in South America.
None of what I said was anti-capitalist/free market
What is all this "pro-business", "higher taxes", "megacorps", and "Wal-Mart" about then?
Falcon
Nobody believes that but you, apparently. FDR was a wealthy elitist personally. His policies and leadership provided a light to the US citizens during a very very dark period.
Plenty of economists, you known the ones with economic training, also believe FDR lengthened the Great Depression. You want some data? Try this: The Recovery from the Great Depression of the 1930s. Look for the unemployment rate chart on that page. In 1932 unemployment was above 20% with 1933 figures a couple of percent higher before dropping a few percent in 1934. Now when did FDR enter office? On 4 March 1933. Unemployment didn't drop below 10% until 1942. FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate has more data.
Look at 1929. Unemployment then was less than 5%. In 1930 it more than doubled, then doubled again in 1931. Guess what happened in 1929? The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was passed and signed becoming law in the US. So what? It raised tariffs on imports. So what do other nations do? They raise their own tariffs which almost shuts down international trade. All those US employees working for exporters lost their jobs. Of course to people like you that's alright, we can't lose US jobs to cheap imports.
Now look at the The National Income Accounts for the Great Depression in the U.S. chart. In 1929 US exports were 35.6, in 1930 29.4, and in 1932 was 19.1 Exports didn't reach 30 again until 1939. Investment levels didn't reach it's 1929 level, investments create employment, until 1937.
Falcon
There's an effort now by the Right to re-write history, and say that "FDR was really an awful president. His administration didn't end the Great Depression."
FDR did not end the Great Depression, he lengthened it.
Falcon
Ah, another person who fell for the fable that liberals are getting elected. Not one Liberal has been elected president since the 1800s. Then again said enough tymes people start believing lies, like liberals are for big government. They then spread those same lies. The fact is is that the closest the US has to liberals today are libertarians.
Falcon
megacorps trying to corner the market (look at agribusiness and food stamps or defense contractors and defense spending) still have an amazingly strong, if not strict fascist, grip on government spending.
Sure farm subsidies and defense spending goes to corporations but food stamps have nothing to do with corporate fascism. Individual people get food stamps not corporations and they can use them wherever food stamps are accepted.
The rest of this anti-capitalist/free market rant doesn't show any more knowledge or reasoning either.
Falcon
As far back as the Franklin Roosevelt administration, in 1933, when it looked for a minute like the US government might actually start putting people ahead of corporate interests, a group of men, owners of some of our largest industries, including the grandfather of George W. Bush plotted to over throw and replace him with a pro-corporate Fascist regime.
Except FRD and Benito Mussolini copied each other. Some question whether FDR's New Deal was Based on Fascism. Il Duce wrote FDR with appreciation and congradulated him for winning his 1932 election.
Falcon
What you say sounds too ideal for a country that is the epitome of the capitalist system.
The best example is the health care. I think there is nothing else to say.
Except the US has a mixed system not a free trade or capitalist system. In a free market health care would be better than it is.
Falcon
It also justifies writing off a hostage to capture a criminal.
Except some, though maybe not all, of the USA's Founding Fathers thought it was better to free 10 criminals than to falsely punish an innocent.
The are some seriously unpleasant court cases and laws out there.
And again the Founding Fathers thought jury nullification, in which a jury tells the government a law is bad or can not be enforced, was important. John Adams wrote in his diary on 12 February 1771:
"...As the constitution requires that the popular branch of the legislature should have an absolute check, so as to put a peremptory negative upon every act of the government, it requires that the common people, should have as complete a control, as decisive as the negative, in every judgment of a court of judicature...."
"...It was never yet disputed or doubted that a general verdict, given under the direction of the court in point of law, was a legal determination of the issue. Therefore, the jury have a power of deciding an issue, upon a general verdict. And, if they have, is it not an absurdity to suppose that the law would oblige them to find a verdict according to the direction of the court, against their own opinion, judgment, and conscience?"
"...Now, should the melancholy case arise that the judges should give their opinions to the jury against one of these fundamental principles, is a juror obliged to give his verdict generally, according to this direction, or even to find the fact specially, and submit the law to the court? Every man, of any feeling or conscience, will answer, no. It is not only his right, but his duty,...to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court...."
Falcon
Solve the free rider problem and we can do away with intellectual property.
What free rider problem?
Falcon
Even those who support copyright, if knowledgeable about the Constitution and the law, do not claim that ideas are property.
But some of those who support patents do think ideas are property, especially software patents.
Falcon
The only way things can be "artificial" is if you have a model of feudalism where there is a poltiical elite which holds all the power.
That seems to be what has become of the US. Look at the Bushes and Kennedys, for example.
Bill and Hillary Clinton disproves that. They had no family members who were politically elite to begin with. Neither did Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan.
Falcon
I used to think that.
Few of us will be so fortunate as to live even a hundred years in relatively good health.
I haven't reached 50 years of life yet, and I don't care if I don't live another year. At least not how my life is now.
A person who lives in Bohemian semi-poverty but is rich in friends, ideas, and experiences is wiser than a friendless man who accumulates wealth so vast it can't be experienced except as an abstraction.
But who is richer, the Bohemian or the wealthy person who uses the money to encourage and grow ideas and experiences making friends along the way?
Falcon
People love blaming inherited problems on the person currently in power.
It is easy, and true, to blame this administration for this. VP Joe Biden is pro-MAFIA, er MP-RI/AA.
Falcon
no, that's financing parties, pay a million to a party and get 100 million back in government contracts if that party gets into power.
With odds like that, I'd give a million to each party.
Both the Democrat and Republican parties get large donations.
Falcon
So were the Germans. In 1943 Hitler himself ordered the execution of Italians on the Greek Island of Cephalonia who surrendered to the allied forces. In what became known as the Cephalonia Massacre the German military commenced the "Weeklong Massacre of the Acqui Division" of Italians. Soldiers didn't even have to surrender, Germans went around rounding them up.
The US itself has done more than enough backstabbing. The US has broken a number of treaties it has signed. It has supported right wing dictators and coups against democratic governments when it felt like it. And it has supported mass murderers and genocide. Both Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr supported Saddam Hussein, even as he was ordering the use of WMDs against not just Iranians but Iraqis too.
Falcon
What do people expect when Vice President Joe Biden is pro-MP-RIAA?
Falcon
Actually Ubuntu Server makes gains at SUSE Linux' expense. And Canonical, IBM: Expanded Ubuntu DB2 Cloud Partnership Coming.
While I'd use Ubuntu on my desktop, I plan on installing it on my MacBook Pro, I don't know which distro I'd use for a server. I've got a PC that's almost 5 years old and I want to upgrade it as a server when I do I may try different distros.
They run it as a desktop OS that replaces Windows and requires minimal fucking around to set up and use... And there are a lot of people (myself included) who would be running Windows now if Ubuntu weren't so functional out of the box.
I'd be using MS Windows if MS weren't such dicks. I switched from Windows, to Linux first then Mac OS X, because I was sick and tired of crashes and don't like being treated like a criminal. Which is what Activation and WGA/WPA do.
Falcon
something that was skillfully left out of this slashdot article but is mentioned many times over and over in the original article. its only installed on OEM installations.
Also of note is that TFA also says it was uploaded to the repository. The very first sentence is "Just uploaded to the Ubuntu Lucid repository for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (and we imagine it will appear shortly in Maverick too for Ubuntu 10.10) is a new package called canonical-census, which marks its initial release."
Geez.
Falcon