I don't have a problem with sites doing this. I won't use them (and nobody else will either) but if your site has enough value that you don't drive all users away, and not enough value to actually charge for something, then go right ahead. Just don't complain about not having users.
I'm absolutely fine with that as long as the leechers are gone. It's due to leeches that one of the more decent sites in my opinion is gone now.
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
So yes, I could have done 100% without the leechers and their few "legitimate" friends wouldn't have changed much.
I don't have a problem with sites doing this. I won't use them (and nobody else will either) but if your site has enough value that you don't drive all users away, and not enough value to actually charge for something, then go right ahead. Just don't complain about not having users.
I don't mind users, I mind freeloaders:
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
So yes, I could have done 100% without the freeloaders.
If I'm new to your site, how do I know it's worth frequenting and/or tolerating (risking) your ads? I don't know you or your advertisers. Why should I trust you from the get-go?
I would say that you don't need my service if you don't see the need and you should go somewhere else instead.
I'm pretty sure you're the one trying to make a buck here, so don't be a total dick to those simply trying to protect their systems and/or their browsing experience.
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
I'll disable Javascript and try again. I'll download the raw HTML of your page, look it over and see if I can block the script you're using, and try again. And if I'm really thwarted, your stupid site isn't important enough for me to waste much time trying to block the ads. I just won't go there. You really don't want me browsing your website? Make it hard enough and I won't. Your loss.
I would have liked it if people had just simply not browsed one of the websites I operated if they were blocking the ads:
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
You seem to not realise that for whatever service you think you provide, there are a million others out there that provide it too.
Just to point something out that many people tend to take for granted. I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
I honestly don't see these "million others out there that provide it too".
But they don't pay for their visitors' CPU power or bandwidth. The site is well within their rights to show ads, but visitors are well within their rights to block them from their screens.
On the other hand, the site also is well within their rights to block people blocking their ads.
Not my bandwidth bills they don't. I can choose to revoke access to my website however I choose, and if that means blocking people who use ad blockers, then tough shit.
If all your shitty web site has as a means of revenue generation is ads, consider revenue to be zero. It is or it will be. Don't complain that your users are blocking ads, get another revenue model.
If you don't have anything worth selling, something that I want to buy, then your web site can go and die (or you can maintain it at a loss). If that sounds harsh, tough titties! I am not here to be an eyeball for your web site. Either take it down and shut up, or find a way to make a profit without being a whiner.
Playing devil's advocate...
I am going to block people who block ads, full stop. That's it.
If you can't even display a shitty advert, then consider your access to be zero. Don't complain if you don't have access to the site when you are blocking ads.
You aren't paying for a subscription, you're blocking the ads, then you can go and die (or you can just live without it). If that sounds harsh, tough titties! I am not here to provide free content for you. Either don't block the ads and shut up, or pay for a subscription without being a whiner.
This is my computer, and I am going to run whatever software I want on it including adblock & noscript. websites have abused their users with popups, popunders, animated gifs so dazzling that would make some people have seizures, so fuck the entire internet (nothing personal) just that they lost the privilege of being able to put just anything in my browser.
Playing devil's advocate...
This is my website, and I am going to deny whatever freeloaders try to abuse it. Freeloaders have used up website resources without compensating for it. Rather than not rip me off, they run special software to fuck me over, driving up costs and taking away resources from legitimate users. So fuck the ad blockers. They just lost the privilege of being able to browse my website.
If you dumbasses had acted like decent human beings, maybe answered a question now and then from a noob, you'd be better positioned by now. But you all acted like fucking assholes, dripping with contempt at any who dared question your Path Of Enlightenment, and making a religion out of OSS complete with witch hunts and holy wars.
In all honesty, I don't see that happen much on all the support channels I sit on. Majority of times I see people saying "RTFM" tend to be people who aren't proficient themselves and usually get told off for it.
So, where exactly does this happen? Because I can assure you this is not the case of the majority of channels on Freenode and Mozilla.
Do you really believe that not seeing X will make you social outcast?
One is unable to socialize when the subject matter is about X.
What does make you stay in touch with people are common insterests, spending time together and caring at least a bit person and common friends.
Speak for yourself. People end up being stuck with certain individuals just because they have nobody else, period.
* Dressing in 'poor peoples' clothing will get you ostracised. Is it okay to steal better clothes?
Provided you don't get caught, otherwise that will get you ostracized.
* Going to 'poor peoples' pubs will sever you from richer classmates and social touchpoint. It is okay to go to better pub and then run away without paying check?
Also provided you don't get caught, because that too will get you ostracized.
* Not having iPod/iPhone will get you segreageted from peers. Is it okay to steal one?
Yep, as long as you don't get caught, because if you do, you'll get ostracized.
* Can't afford ticket to Avatar and you will be left out when taling about it? Is it okay to sneak in to cinema?
Yet again, yes, as long as you don't get caught.
You should aim to have friends that are not superfluous enough to care about whether or not you have stuff.
You take what you can get. As you mentioned earlier, "it is how life goes".
At least meeting the closed-source driver devs halfway
I believe they already met closed driver devs half way by ignoring the GPL licensing for 3rd party linked modules in the Linux kernel which are usually shipped in end user distros.
Which is better?
I don't believe that really changes anything, since 3rd party driver developers (nvidia, ati etc) tend to target distributions and not upstream and most distributions have stable ABIs for that specific release.
That's not Google's view, though. That's just a single guy, who's working independently from Google, but they finance his work. Their official stance with respect to backing H.264 for HTML5 didn't change - they're still opposed to standardizing on Theora.
Just... let it die. I know free/open is awesome, but Theora is just bad bad bad on top of awesome. If you refuse to look towards H.264, then at least now you can look towards Google and VP8 now. Bury Theora.
Interesting thing to note is that even the ground troops through the camera guy had an RPG on him.
They didn't even try to be sure
The armed guards had weapons, that much was clear. They asked for a go according to the rules of engagement and likely because this civilian reporter was stupid enough to not inform the military of his movements caused his untimely death.
they just started shooting and laughed about it
It's a common coping strategy to deal with extreme situations. Something one learns in the first year of psychology.
I'm sorry but a pinball plunger, an old typewriter and a decor that looks ripped from a kid TV show just doesn't suit the supposedly alien look of the inside of the TARDIS.
I have to break it to you... But Doctor Who is a children's TV show.
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And website hosts don't?
I'm absolutely fine with that as long as the leechers are gone. It's due to leeches that one of the more decent sites in my opinion is gone now.
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
So yes, I could have done 100% without the leechers and their few "legitimate" friends wouldn't have changed much.
I don't mind users, I mind freeloaders:
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
So yes, I could have done 100% without the freeloaders.
I would say that you don't need my service if you don't see the need and you should go somewhere else instead.
I'm pretty sure you're the one trying to make a buck here, so don't be a total dick to those simply trying to protect their systems and/or their browsing experience.
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
I did not make a profit off the system.
I would have liked it if people had just simply not browsed one of the websites I operated if they were blocking the ads:
I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
Just to point something out that many people tend to take for granted. I have ran some large file repositories in the past - related to (legal) distribution of Amiga software, demos (every single piece of software had been ensured for licensing for redistribution) that wasn't generally available elsewhere. Ad impressions themselves made a difference in keeping the site running, as it required constant upgrades for the growing traffic and I did end up blocking people who blocked ads, as the ones who did generally block impressions tended to download a very large amount of files costing me more in bandwith bills. I never required people click the ads, only load them to support the site. I had also offered a donation system, which would let them disable the ads in exchange.
After a while, a grease monkey script came out that essentially worked around the 'problem' and all 3TB of data was lost because said script spread very quickly among some heavy downloaders where the colo provider took the server as 'pay' since I couldn't afford it.
So far, I have not seen any other site providing the amount of software I had readily available and being that I still occasionally dabble in the Amiga community, I see many people not finding specific titles that were on the system.
I honestly don't see these "million others out there that provide it too".
See? You proved my point. Don't get caught, you get ostracized.
Personally, I wouldn't do it, but I do love playing devil's advocate.
On the other hand, the site also is well within their rights to block people blocking their ads.
Playing devil's advocate...
Not my bandwidth bills they don't. I can choose to revoke access to my website however I choose, and if that means blocking people who use ad blockers, then tough shit.
Playing devil's advocate...
I pay for my bandwidth I'll choose what I serve, including page elements. If you block ads, then I will block content.
Playing devil's advocate...
I am going to block people who block ads, full stop. That's it.
If you can't even display a shitty advert, then consider your access to be zero. Don't complain if you don't have access to the site when you are blocking ads.
You aren't paying for a subscription, you're blocking the ads, then you can go and die (or you can just live without it). If that sounds harsh, tough titties! I am not here to provide free content for you. Either don't block the ads and shut up, or pay for a subscription without being a whiner.
Playing devil's advocate...
This is my website, and I am going to deny whatever freeloaders try to abuse it. Freeloaders have used up website resources without compensating for it. Rather than not rip me off, they run special software to fuck me over, driving up costs and taking away resources from legitimate users. So fuck the ad blockers. They just lost the privilege of being able to browse my website.
In all honesty, I don't see that happen much on all the support channels I sit on. Majority of times I see people saying "RTFM" tend to be people who aren't proficient themselves and usually get told off for it.
So, where exactly does this happen? Because I can assure you this is not the case of the majority of channels on Freenode and Mozilla.
Source?
Note: I am not the grand father poster.
One is unable to socialize when the subject matter is about X.
Speak for yourself. People end up being stuck with certain individuals just because they have nobody else, period.
Provided you don't get caught, otherwise that will get you ostracized.
Also provided you don't get caught, because that too will get you ostracized.
Yep, as long as you don't get caught, because if you do, you'll get ostracized.
Yet again, yes, as long as you don't get caught.
You take what you can get. As you mentioned earlier, "it is how life goes".
I believe they already met closed driver devs half way by ignoring the GPL licensing for 3rd party linked modules in the Linux kernel which are usually shipped in end user distros.
I don't believe that really changes anything, since 3rd party driver developers (nvidia, ati etc) tend to target distributions and not upstream and most distributions have stable ABIs for that specific release.
Oh, I remember this guy. See: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/video/ytcompare/comparison.html
I doubt this person speaks for all of Google too, considering other departments are doing the opposite as shown before.
I still don't understand his comment, because if we do what he suggest, and look towards Google:
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/04/10/1147254/Google-Funds-Ogg-Theora-For-Mobile?art_pos=8
Seems Google's view opposes his.
I can't tell if you're being serious or trolling.
I have never seen software development cater to all users - did not make a difference if it was opensource or proprietary.
Interesting thing to note is that even the ground troops through the camera guy had an RPG on him.
The armed guards had weapons, that much was clear. They asked for a go according to the rules of engagement and likely because this civilian reporter was stupid enough to not inform the military of his movements caused his untimely death.
It's a common coping strategy to deal with extreme situations. Something one learns in the first year of psychology.
Yeah, that's why it was never listed in the 'children' section on iplayer.. Oh wait
I have to break it to you... But Doctor Who is a children's TV show.
I personally never really felt the black and white episodes were that marvelous.
You do realize that Doctor Who is a children's show, right?
The other titles you mentioned are targeted towards adults.
Do they advertise Doctor Who towards adults in particular in the US or something?