Terrorism is a far bigger problem and Twitter only cares and actively works to do something about the trolls, which in comparison, aren't a problem at all. It's disgusting.
Who thought it was a good idea to have this ugly, buggy, bloated, and now apparently insecure, program installed alongside every single PC release?
What are you talking about? I have Origin, uplay, Desura, battle.net etc. and that's ignoring games that don't have their own patchers like Wildstar, Star Trek: Online, Final Fantasy 14 etc.
I really can't wait for another service to come along and knock Steam off their pedestal.
I'm not really sure anymore what your point even is?
I'll paraphrase the posts:
1) You state that having a smart phone is a bad idea and that this article seems to make it even more so. 2) I laughed at your comment. 3) You justify yourself. 4) I bring up the similarities and dis-similaries of the exploitability to other devices through MitM, such as a PC and imply that if that would be your main motivator, that probably should avoid using any other device with similar circumstances. 5) You side-tracked on 'wi-fi' being the cause. 6) I point out MitM again. 7) You don't really see my point.
If you're implying that the CIA/NSA/FBI/whoever has sneaked into my house and is watching the whole three ethernet devices I have on my private network
CIA/NSA/FBI and other three letter agencies don't need to go on that level to my knowledge. With the advent of home routers being compromised through automated worms, Linux routers and even ISP routers getting compromised while operating in secure BAU setups. It would be silly to make assumptions like your Internet access is never going to have some sort of MitM. Based on this, how is this different to a smart phone being compromied by a MitM? I don't really see much of a difference.
In the next responses, I am just going to take the comments as if they were targetted to my use; because I have no idea what your use it or why you would end up compromised, but I have a good idea what would compromise me.
All I'm saying is why the hell should I make it easier for criminals or tragically anal-retentive government types to be going through my informational underwear drawer
I feel the risk to me in this area is very minimal because I simply do not store that data directly on the device. There is the exception that it has GPS tracking and I guess some special malware could get into my phone and trace where my phone is; but there isn't really much use to criminals having that information.
or directly monitoring me in realtime by having a smartphone when week after week I have it demonstrated to me that you're a chump if you own one
Considering that my alternative would be doing phone conferencing a lot over a laptop, I view the exploitability about the same with real time monitoring. If I had to use ae laptop, it too would know of the movies/documentaries I watch in bed, what slashdot comments I am reading (big deal) and the secure text messages (these aren't SMSes) I get regarding people accessing datacenters/servers
especially when nobody even uses their phone as a phone, for most it's like some crazy twisted lifestyle?
I use my landline for Internet and my mobile for voice calls, secure texts, tethering and discussing with people on Slashdot when I am travelling (last year I averaged 5 days a week in hotels and 0.7 days travelling per week).
..and before you say it: No, I'm not a luddite.
I never said that you're a luddite, your initial comment still does not really justify smart phones being that much worse than any other Internet connected device and I really don't care about any other reasons you have for not owning a smart phone.
You're funny, because you're using a system that is probably just as exploitable under similar conditions. If you read the article, it mentions this attack would need to be faciltiated over Wi-fi. How can an attack over Wi-fi work? Man in the middle? Right, if someone is man-in-the-middling a system, Linux, Windows, OS X or otherwise, you'll likely have an application that can be exploited.
I haven't had sufficient reason to get a smartphone so far, and it seems like every week something else comes up that convinces me even further that it's a bad idea.
I#m not trying to convince you to get one, but if your only reason was to do with the security of the device.. Then I wouldn't even use a PC for similar reasons.
then it's like a swiss cheese so far as security goes
Mobile security is interesting, because some handsets don't get updates and that's where their vulnerabilities lie, while others do and some are maintained by the community which in some cases are more secure than your PC. Permission systems on mobile devices are more refined than what you typically get on a PC. Applications typically even have to request permission for Internet access, reading your device's unique ID, access to your phone book, viewing your pictures etc.
Overpriced, underperforming, get gouged for wireless service
I don't have this problem. I've got unlimited data (including tethering - I've used up TBs in a few months with no complaints), unlimited calls, unlimited texts 3g & 4g etc. and that costs me just 13GBP a month.
All so I can have stupid games and mobile internet?
I wouldn't know what your use-case is, but mine for exceeds those.
I've got like 10000 'anytime' minutes racked up every single month.
That's nice I guess.
If it was any cheaper to have landline POTS at my house I think I'd just do that instead, but it costs about the same.
I pay for two different fibre optic connections to my home from different providers for redundancy and load balancing traffic (we're heavy Internet users and we don't even pirate content), sadly that comes up to around 60GBP together, which in comparison to my mobile phone service is immensely expensive.
Paying £24 a year for a service that gets you more than 48 games
Any games I had wanted I had already purchased, they do not typically give you new releases immediately either as part of the package (which I generally get cheaper by buying these from big grocerty chains like ASDA than game shops for some reason?). Therefore, value for people like myself is rather limited and only serves as a bonus that is irrelevant.
you're assuming neither Sony nor Microsoft can mitigate these attacks
Honestly, that's your assumption. I wasn't saying they weren't doing something to mitigate attacks, I was pointing out a specific technology they were not using to mitigate attacks.
yet you know how
Why wouldn't I know some of this stuff? It's not like I haven't made made architecture plans for datacenters before, automated multi-resilience sites for operation.
you believe you're simply superior
I don't believe I'm superior, I'm more astonished it isn't happening, hence the why.
and get paid to know them and the technologies available far more than you probably ever will.
I don't know, but considering I am rejecting job offers (and I'm not even looking) from the U.S. because they don't pay enough, it would lower my standards of living and not really worrying about money -- This isn't really something I find myself worrying about. Getting certifications when relevant for my day job is the norm for me as well?
but don't pretend you could solve this problem
To be frank, I have every confidence that I could solve problems provided corporate red tape does not prevent me from doing so (this includes some architecture decisions). I've had similar problems in my work that involved me implementing interesting solutions that are BGP based with features that weren't explictly designed for such purposes (load balancing without load balancers, redirecting traffic through alternate routes, flagging legitimate traffic through some
The only way to cope was to simply increase the amount of bandwidth to a level far beyond that which is typical, and frankly at that point it can just be cheaper to let it blow over and compensate your customers with a few free days or whatever
Or adding better peering and improving their BGP management, I can already see what peering is used on LINX sites (including on the extranet) -- there is much to be desired. They could have spread out infrastructure beyond some regional datacentres and I have no doubt what I see on LINX is their standard on other sites as well.
It turns out your sense, isn't, given that basically everything you've said is wrong and stupid. Well done, you just made a complete fool of yourself with your misplaced arrogance trying to belittle two groups of people who are apparently much much smarter than you.
You've made plenty of assumptions about me and they weren't exactly holding true which seems to be what you've based your conclusions on.
That's funny - when this happened, the prevailing sentiment on slashdot was to call for the utter destruction of Sony as a company.
You make it sound like it was yesterday, it was ten years ago.. If the best argument you've got is something from ten years ago, you're not going to be able sway many people.
All plugins in Firefox run under plugincontainer.exe, which talks to the main firefox process. There is no reason why plugincontainer.exe couldn't be a 32bit process and the main Firefox process 64bit.
Honestly, my question is, why aren't these console firms using technologies like anycasting to minimize attacks, reduce server latency and redistribute load? This isn't exactly a new technology, I remember doing anycasting configurations over a decade ago that dealt with problems like this.
Users are paying for xbox live, PSN+ etc. they really should be at least getting something on par to the.. well.. relatively free online multi-player services. Sadly, these users are poorly informed and their poor purchasing habits seem to outweigh those of us that have sense.
Why spend extraordinary effort to run custom apps on a locked down system, when you can get an open by design PC that will cost you less money long term?
It's more fun as a hobby than having something that 'just works'. Another reason is the 'coolness factor'.
Are you kidding? It's significantly cheaper to install a secondary cabinet and connect the adjacent box to it when significant additions are necessary than doing completely new lines from the exchange for each additional line added, upgrades and avoids issues caused by distance from the end points. Maintenance is almost entirely done through automation through specialised management teams, except when hardware fails (which in the last areas I've lived in with exchanges, didn't seem to happen) where engineers are dispatched and simply install replacement hardware?
Batteries are required in every one of these boxes that need to be replaced when spent and are regularly stolen.
The cabinets nor the batteries are not regularly stolen, where are you even coming up with this? I even searched the news and failed to find anything of the sort happening to BT openreach (the infrastructure providers) on anything like this.
Unfortunately this is the failed system
If it's failed, it wouldn't be doing better than a vast amount of other countries.
mmm, guarantee, warranty? why are there two forms of the same word?
Over here, they're different meanings:
Guarantee:
Takes effect whether or not you have a warranty
Whether paid for or not, it is legally binding
Sorts out any problems within a fixed period of time
Warranty:
Cannot reduce your guarantee rights
Usually a written contract
Usually something you pay a premium on
Can last longer that a guarantee and cover a variety of more problems or even different problems (ie: it's accepted that a few pixels may be dead on monitors, but a warranty can cover those)
Traffic is still going to keep you creeping along at 10mpg during rush hour. In this case, the servers you're connecting to aren't going to magically get any faster.
I'm glad where I live that isn't really a problem.
She regularly amazed us by finishing prototypes before we could finish describing them. We'd have a conference call where we were brainstorming a solution, and as one of the senior developers and I hashed it out and then described what we wanted, you'd here this furious clicking in the background. Then before you could finish describing the final idea she'd say "OK, I have something for you to look at".
Note: I am in Northern Ireland and so is my company.
This is the kind of people we're trying to find in my company (currently a small start up) and we've been offering higher wages, better benefits, real flex time benefits, a strict policy on maintain work-life reasonably and trying to find people that have enthusiasm is really hard, trying to find someone with enthusiasm and a bit of sense is harder and finding the rare jewels like you describe, we have utterly failed to find them. I see a massive brain drain of technically literate and enthusiastic people going else-where in the UK, U.S. and many other countries, it's ridiculous. I'm involved in the local hackerspaces, amateur radio scene and so forth as part of my interest and it's disheartening seeing people just going else where (that actually has a worse standard of living compared to what they can get here). It's a little heart breaking to actually try to help build a company that really has a viable business model and you're having to turn away business constantly because you can't find the right people and you can really make a difference locally... And that's when you're providing the salaries, benefits etc. to the point that nobody else in similar industries can compete. We've had more luck with finding the right people across other continents than we have in ours.
Every single product I've seen shipped offshore for "cheaper" labor has ultimately resulted in massive cost overruns and a product that doesn't meet expectations (at best) and frequently just doesn't work. There's a lot to be said about being able to work with your business face to face or at least in the same daylight hours when you're both awake.
I'm guessing you decided to filter out the companies that moved to Ireland, Germany, France and the UK from that list of companies for cheaper operational costs?
If the server or client you are doing work on is physically located here in the states, you have to have a physical presence here, and those workers are working at that physical location, being paid US wages, Paying US taxes, and following US laws. You get to register with the government, and not only do they get to tap your network connection onsite and you have zero privileges as to privacy, you get to pay an admin fee for it too. Your business address can be a rack of systems in a data center. They are also no overtime-exempt workers that get to work out of a rack, those people have to be physically in the US. So management, IT Admin, software dev, and so forth are out of question.
I've seen regulation similar to what you describe in one country, this resulted in expensive consultancies that bought 'products' from their parent companies (in the UK, US etc) to meet demands of their clients. The consultants really had no influence due to the nature of regulations set in place and I've seen some pretty awful infrastructures and solutions that were delivered because of this and they were the only workable options. How would you propose that is prevented?
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I think his reading comprehension is just fine, I believe you pretend not to or simply failed to understand his argument.
Sounds like you're talking more about griefers, goons or channers more than actual trolls.
Terrorism is a far bigger problem and Twitter only cares and actively works to do something about the trolls, which in comparison, aren't a problem at all. It's disgusting.
What are you talking about? I have Origin, uplay, Desura, battle.net etc. and that's ignoring games that don't have their own patchers like Wildstar, Star Trek: Online, Final Fantasy 14 etc.
Honestly, I just want the green light crap gone.
I'll paraphrase the posts:
1) You state that having a smart phone is a bad idea and that this article seems to make it even more so.
2) I laughed at your comment.
3) You justify yourself.
4) I bring up the similarities and dis-similaries of the exploitability to other devices through MitM, such as a PC and imply that if that would be your main motivator, that probably should avoid using any other device with similar circumstances.
5) You side-tracked on 'wi-fi' being the cause.
6) I point out MitM again.
7) You don't really see my point.
CIA/NSA/FBI and other three letter agencies don't need to go on that level to my knowledge. With the advent of home routers being compromised through automated worms, Linux routers and even ISP routers getting compromised while operating in secure BAU setups. It would be silly to make assumptions like your Internet access is never going to have some sort of MitM. Based on this, how is this different to a smart phone being compromied by a MitM? I don't really see much of a difference.
In the next responses, I am just going to take the comments as if they were targetted to my use; because I have no idea what your use it or why you would end up compromised, but I have a good idea what would compromise me.
I feel the risk to me in this area is very minimal because I simply do not store that data directly on the device. There is the exception that it has GPS tracking and I guess some special malware could get into my phone and trace where my phone is; but there isn't really much use to criminals having that information.
Considering that my alternative would be doing phone conferencing a lot over a laptop, I view the exploitability about the same with real time monitoring. If I had to use ae laptop, it too would know of the movies/documentaries I watch in bed, what slashdot comments I am reading (big deal) and the secure text messages (these aren't SMSes) I get regarding people accessing datacenters/servers
I use my landline for Internet and my mobile for voice calls, secure texts, tethering and discussing with people on Slashdot when I am travelling (last year I averaged 5 days a week in hotels and 0.7 days travelling per week).
I never said that you're a luddite, your initial comment still does not really justify smart phones being that much worse than any other Internet connected device and I really don't care about any other reasons you have for not owning a smart phone.
I'm not a coward, I just don't like seeing spam posts.
Similar conditions being, someone doing a Man in the Middle. I don't care what medium it's performed over.
You're funny, because you're using a system that is probably just as exploitable under similar conditions. If you read the article, it mentions this attack would need to be faciltiated over Wi-fi. How can an attack over Wi-fi work? Man in the middle? Right, if someone is man-in-the-middling a system, Linux, Windows, OS X or otherwise, you'll likely have an application that can be exploited.
I#m not trying to convince you to get one, but if your only reason was to do with the security of the device.. Then I wouldn't even use a PC for similar reasons.
Mobile security is interesting, because some handsets don't get updates and that's where their vulnerabilities lie, while others do and some are maintained by the community which in some cases are more secure than your PC. Permission systems on mobile devices are more refined than what you typically get on a PC. Applications typically even have to request permission for Internet access, reading your device's unique ID, access to your phone book, viewing your pictures etc.
I don't have this problem. I've got unlimited data (including tethering - I've used up TBs in a few months with no complaints), unlimited calls, unlimited texts 3g & 4g etc. and that costs me just 13GBP a month.
I wouldn't know what your use-case is, but mine for exceeds those.
That's nice I guess.
I pay for two different fibre optic connections to my home from different providers for redundancy and load balancing traffic (we're heavy Internet users and we don't even pirate content), sadly that comes up to around 60GBP together, which in comparison to my mobile phone service is immensely expensive.
LOL you.
Any games I had wanted I had already purchased, they do not typically give you new releases immediately either as part of the package (which I generally get cheaper by buying these from big grocerty chains like ASDA than game shops for some reason?). Therefore, value for people like myself is rather limited and only serves as a bonus that is irrelevant.
Honestly, that's your assumption. I wasn't saying they weren't doing something to mitigate attacks, I was pointing out a specific technology they were not using to mitigate attacks.
Why wouldn't I know some of this stuff? It's not like I haven't made made architecture plans for datacenters before, automated multi-resilience sites for operation.
I don't believe I'm superior, I'm more astonished it isn't happening, hence the why.
I don't know, but considering I am rejecting job offers (and I'm not even looking) from the U.S. because they don't pay enough, it would lower my standards of living and not really worrying about money -- This isn't really something I find myself worrying about. Getting certifications when relevant for my day job is the norm for me as well?
To be frank, I have every confidence that I could solve problems provided corporate red tape does not prevent me from doing so (this includes some architecture decisions). I've had similar problems in my work that involved me implementing interesting solutions that are BGP based with features that weren't explictly designed for such purposes (load balancing without load balancers, redirecting traffic through alternate routes, flagging legitimate traffic through some
Or adding better peering and improving their BGP management, I can already see what peering is used on LINX sites (including on the extranet) -- there is much to be desired. They could have spread out infrastructure beyond some regional datacentres and I have no doubt what I see on LINX is their standard on other sites as well.
You've made plenty of assumptions about me and they weren't exactly holding true which seems to be what you've based your conclusions on.
You make it sound like it was yesterday, it was ten years ago.. If the best argument you've got is something from ten years ago, you're not going to be able sway many people.
No, they break up CDNs on a region basis, stop making up non-sense. Even hobby projects like Dalnet which sustain larger DDoS attacks can do it.
I think you're making assumptions about someone you barely know anything about. Clearly I've hit a nerve.
Upset? Love? Very emotional language you got going there. However, I don't particularly feel either towards any particular service.
Tell me again, why you think I wasn't referring to Wii U's anycasting setup?
Oh yeah, I'm a PC zealot. Because I clearly don't have a selection of game consoles under my television, I clearly don't have physical copies of games that are only playable on consoles (the vast majority of my library are downloadables) and I clearly wouldn't keep backup controllers for when some of mine go faulty.
It's not suprise you posted as anonymous, you don't want to make a reputation for yourself being ignorant, right?
All plugins in Firefox run under plugincontainer.exe, which talks to the main firefox process. There is no reason why plugincontainer.exe couldn't be a 32bit process and the main Firefox process 64bit.
Honestly, my question is, why aren't these console firms using technologies like anycasting to minimize attacks, reduce server latency and redistribute load? This isn't exactly a new technology, I remember doing anycasting configurations over a decade ago that dealt with problems like this.
Users are paying for xbox live, PSN+ etc. they really should be at least getting something on par to the.. well.. relatively free online multi-player services. Sadly, these users are poorly informed and their poor purchasing habits seem to outweigh those of us that have sense.
I can see how Skype would, why can't you?
People were already pirating on PS4 before this.
It's more fun as a hobby than having something that 'just works'. Another reason is the 'coolness factor'.
You have your answer.
Are you kidding? It's significantly cheaper to install a secondary cabinet and connect the adjacent box to it when significant additions are necessary than doing completely new lines from the exchange for each additional line added, upgrades and avoids issues caused by distance from the end points. Maintenance is almost entirely done through automation through specialised management teams, except when hardware fails (which in the last areas I've lived in with exchanges, didn't seem to happen) where engineers are dispatched and simply install replacement hardware?
The cabinets nor the batteries are not regularly stolen, where are you even coming up with this? I even searched the news and failed to find anything of the sort happening to BT openreach (the infrastructure providers) on anything like this.
If it's failed, it wouldn't be doing better than a vast amount of other countries.
Over here, they're different meanings:
Guarantee:
Warranty:
Why not implement the cabinet system that the UK uses?
I'm glad where I live that isn't really a problem.
Why only 100Mbps? My second fibre home Internet connection connection is 200Mbps and that isn't even using the latest tech available...
Note: I am in Northern Ireland and so is my company.
This is the kind of people we're trying to find in my company (currently a small start up) and we've been offering higher wages, better benefits, real flex time benefits, a strict policy on maintain work-life reasonably and trying to find people that have enthusiasm is really hard, trying to find someone with enthusiasm and a bit of sense is harder and finding the rare jewels like you describe, we have utterly failed to find them. I see a massive brain drain of technically literate and enthusiastic people going else-where in the UK, U.S. and many other countries, it's ridiculous. I'm involved in the local hackerspaces, amateur radio scene and so forth as part of my interest and it's disheartening seeing people just going else where (that actually has a worse standard of living compared to what they can get here). It's a little heart breaking to actually try to help build a company that really has a viable business model and you're having to turn away business constantly because you can't find the right people and you can really make a difference locally... And that's when you're providing the salaries, benefits etc. to the point that nobody else in similar industries can compete. We've had more luck with finding the right people across other continents than we have in ours.
I'm guessing you decided to filter out the companies that moved to Ireland, Germany, France and the UK from that list of companies for cheaper operational costs?
I've seen regulation similar to what you describe in one country, this resulted in expensive consultancies that bought 'products' from their parent companies (in the UK, US etc) to meet demands of their clients. The consultants really had no influence due to the nature of regulations set in place and I've seen some pretty awful infrastructures and solutions that were delivered because of this and they were the only workable options. How would you propose that is prevented?