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LizardSquad Copycats Planning DDoS Attacks On Xbox & PSN For Christmas (softpedia.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Last year on Christmas, the LizardSquad hacking group took down PSN and Xbox Live for many hours via DDoS attacks. This year another group, called Phantom Squad, is planning the same thing. The group has been launching small test attacks on PSN, Xbox, Reddit, SWOTR, and other game servers over the past few days.

103 comments

  1. Why? by JimMcc · · Score: 3

    I don't understand why? Seriously, I don't get it.

    Is this just the modern day equivalent of throwing a rock through a shop window in the middle of the night; an act perpetrated by frightened little children acting out?

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nobody is paying attention to me. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only goal is to make people miserable on Christmas Day - a variety of advanced trolling. Maybe this is someone lashing out at Sony and Microsoft but really these corporations aren't in any position to mitigate large scale DDoS attacks against all their customers.

      Sometimes the best way to get your political viewpoint across is to annoy the sheeple into noticing your issue.

    3. Re:Why? by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pissy little 13 year olds that are angry that mommy did not buy them an Xbox one yet.

      that is all these groups are.

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    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Collectively, these two groups are also known as the Douche Squad

    5. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh, so nobody ever played video games with their kids on Christmas? Nobody ever bought their kids a console for christmas?

      Idiot.

    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the lulz, presumably.

    7. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Total idiot. Besides, the kids who played basketball all day are not my co-workers. You figure it out.

    8. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What issue are they drawing attention to? That networked multiplayer video gaming is available on holidays?

    9. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just play games locally until the issue resolves itself. There are a zillion games to play that don't require a remote network.

    10. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why? Seriously, I don't get it.

      I don't know about XBox live, but for PSN, it's probably due to Sony's business practices: rootkitting people's PCs, removing features paid for already, etc. Many, many people want to see Sony die, so if you do business with them, don't be surprised if you have some problems because of that. In a way you are supporting those things yourself with your purchase dollars.

    11. Re:Why? by maharvey · · Score: 1

      No need to worry about that anymore, thanks to Slashdot.

    12. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's like throwing the rock in the daytime, because the intent is to have the shop become closed for a while when customers would be there. The equivalent of throwing a rock through a window in the middle of the night would be if they DDoSed myspace.com or something like that.

    13. Re:Why? by ElectricHellKnight · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why? Seriously, I don't get it.

      Why? Why you ask? You question why?!

      Because they can, that's why.

    14. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you're a religious nutjob if you celebrate X-mas at all.

      It's time you grew up. Adults with imaginary friends are stupid.

    15. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are being an asshole; please stop it. There's are perfectly good reasons to celebrate Christmas even if you don't believe in Christ's divinity.
      How about "Peace on the earth, good will to men" as one?

    16. Re:Why? by cavreader · · Score: 1

      "Many, many people want to see Sony die" Took a poll did you? If you have a beef with Sony or any other company don't buy any of their products. Nobody is forcing you to use anything Sony makes. And let those who are not as juvenile as yourself use products of their own selection without you being an ass.

    17. Re:Why? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      It's time you learnt a few facts, a couple of which I'll share with you here:

      Yule and Saturnalia predate Christianity by a considerable margin.

      Some Christian denominations have even at various times discouraged or even banned their members from celebrating Christmas on the grounds of its pagan origins.

      (And if you ask me, people who live in their mothers' basements and only poke their heads out to criticise others on false premises are stupid.)

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    18. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur, my good man. Have you seen my monocle? I seem to have misplaced it when I went for a sherry.

    19. Re:Why? by Xest · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's as well thought through as that in these cases. Last year Lizard Squad were shouting about how they loved ISIS.

      I think Lumpy has it right above - angry little shits whose parents are pissed that all their friends have Xbox's/Playstations and they don't so are lashing out at the world, there doesn't seem any more to it than that as their political message is all over the place and doesn't make any kind of sense.

    20. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is not advanced in any way –don't give them credit. They are using brute force to bring system to their knees.

      Any claims that people should spend time with their loved ones on Christmas is just trying to put their bullshit in wrapping paper. They do this for the laughs and for being assholes. There are probably a lot more people like me, not having family to celebrate with and no friends in my position. For the last 20 years I have spent most of the christmas holiday playing computer/console games, reading books or doing something to spend the time when everything is closed down and there are no people around. But why would these "Phantom Squad" idiots think of lonely losers? They have no empathy and no other agenda than being douchebags.

      Luckily for me I have enough games I can play without going online, still I think they harm our society. They contribute to nothing. If they had any real skills in showing security holes, that would be one thing, but they lack sofistication. The only thing they know how do to is use the digital equivalents of sticks and rocks to bully other people.

      As for your last statement, you are wrong. "Annoying sheeple" is not acceptable. Informing them yes, but making them collateral damage won't help you. Those you call sheeple won't make the connection between the corporations and what you are doing.

      But you are partly right- they are trolls.

    21. Re:Why? by donaldm · · Score: 1

      I am not a physiologist but they are either doing it to stroke their egos or Just Cause. ;-)

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    22. Re:Why? by donaldm · · Score: 1

      Pissy little 13 year olds that are angry that mommy did not buy them an Xbox one yet.

      that is all these groups are.

      Actually it could be because their mummy did buy them an XB1 instead of a PS4. Ducks for cover behind a chest high wall. :-)

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    23. Re:Why? by donaldm · · Score: 1

      Oh my the old hoary "rootkitting people's PCs" from over 10 years ago that was done by BMG even though Sony was in the process of acquiring them. As for removing features. Yes they did remove the "Other OS" feature over security concerns in the PS3 with an optional update, but lets be honest here how many people used that?

      Ok I get it, you hate Sony for no valid reason.

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    24. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yule and Saturnalia predate Christianity by a considerable margin.

      Going into nitpicking territory, we don't have the slightest clue when Yule was first celebrated and the first written references to it are later than first references to Christmas. People usually assume that the Yule was lot older than that but that's just an assumption.

      Christmas didn't grow to be a major holiday until much later, though.

    25. Re:Why? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Yule was celebrated by Germanic tribes before they encountered Christianity.

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    26. Re:Why? by Coren22 · · Score: 1
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    27. Re:Why? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Cant duck for cover, the Xbox is downloading another 20gb update.....

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    28. Re:Why? by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Which imaginary friends encourage you to celebrate the middle of winter through the modern secular pastime of consumer excess?

      They sound like pretty cool friends.

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  2. It could be worse... by DaHat · · Score: 2

    It could be North Korea threatening war again.

    1. Re:It could be worse... by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Only if Seth Rogen has another really shitty movie opening in the next few weeks.

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    2. Re:It could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Korea threatening with war is embedded in the everyday language of the tourist guides there. Indirect expression of the threat is the Status Que and part of the national philosophy.

  3. Real Live Grinches! by berchca · · Score: 1

    Let us punish the children for, well, something...

  4. The gift that keeps on giving. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least that new bill allows the CIA/NSA to find them easier.

  5. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they do this because it is funny? I don't understand...

    1. Re:So... by campuscodi · · Score: 1

      What the hell are you even talking about?

    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trying to destroy something you don't understand? You seem angry... perhaps chimping out is not the best solution to this problem.

    3. Re:So... by Puls4r · · Score: 0

      Your post is perfect. I hope it isn't deleted. It's perfect because of the irony. In our case, we have you abusing a forum's anonymity to spread your "message".

      In the case of these two children's groups, they are abusing the anonymity of the internet to spread theirs.

      Most websites have removed the ability to anonymously comment. In fact many are getting rid of the ability to comment altogether. That same parallel is happening on the internet. New standards with higher security are being enacted and government control is increasing.

      So thank you. Your ignorant and juvenile hate is just one more brick in the wall of destroying what the internet was built on and thrived on. Now that slashdot is owned by a company interested only in profits, you can bet that they'll eventually put a stop to your kind of post, along with ALL anonymous posting.

    4. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that slashdot is owned by a company interested only in profits, you can bet that they'll eventually put a stop to your kind of post, along with ALL anonymous posting.

      Or, you could respond to the idiotic content of that post by ignoring it instead of jumping on the "NO MOAR ANONIMOUSE PEACH" bandwagon like every other dipshit that can't handle words on a screen.

    5. Re:So... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      , you can bet that they'll eventually put a stop to your kind of post, along with ALL anonymous posting.

      As someone who reads at -1 for moderation purposes, nothing of value will be lost.

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    6. Re:So... by Puls4r · · Score: 1

      I think your sarcasm meter is broken. I don't support the removal of anonymity. That is where we are headed, however, when people can play nicely in the sandbox.

  6. Capital punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why we still need it. Total fucking assholes.

    1. Re:Capital punishment by maharvey · · Score: 1

      Moronic? Yes.

      Childish? Yes.

      Deserving of death? Um, no.

  7. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, you know, because people who don't share your values must be crushed.

  8. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The wailing and gnashing of teeth from gamers last year was goddamned hilarious, as they were forced to spend Christmas (gasp!) WITH THEIR FAMILY rather than becoming zombies in front of the TV.

    Personally I'm all for making taking down PSN and Xbox Live on Christmas an annual tradition. Fuck gamers. Spend time with your family, nerds.

    Yes, Phantom Squad will certainly be spending time with their families and not, say, taking down PSN and Xbox LIVE purely to spite others.

  9. Re: Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Irony. Using "nerds" as a pejorative on a site tag-lined, "News for nerds".

  10. Re: Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because we're not allowed to sit down and game with our children? Go enjoying watching your family get drunk and fight.

  11. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found the leader of Phantom Squad, guys. So, you and your buddies downloaded a ddos script? Good for you! Learn how to program and get a job.

  12. How is this clever? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    What a bunch of moronic pussies.
    What are they trying to prove? That they can ruin the holidays for a bunch of kids? Wow what a bunch of cretins.
    Theyre not even doing anything semi-intelligent like actually hacking, just doing yet another boringly unoriginal Skript Kidde-like DDOS.
    woo. Big woop.

  13. Re: Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. Vanity fair is more his speed... or maybe muffington boast.

  14. Re:Good for them! by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

    Maybe talk to a therapist rather than spewing your ignorant hate.

  15. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As if no one in the world spends time PLAYING VIDEO GAMES ONLINE WITH THEIR FAMILIES during the holidays.

    And at least a couple of Lizard Squad idiots were forced to spend HARD TIME (gasp!) behind fucking bars for their hacking crimes.

  16. And nobody gave a fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  17. Doesnt serve a point when anyone can do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see no point in this. Its like stalling a car in an intersection and then taking credit for making everything come to a standstill. Any fool can do it. If you want to impress someone, make the system work better, not worse.

  18. How nice of them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Offering free penetration testing to Microsoft and Sony, at the risk of jailtime and potential civil actions being brought against them? That's all incredibly generous.

    Maybe either MS or Sony or both will have a solution to the ddos this time around? We'll just have to see. Let the penetration testing begin!

  19. We should destroy these so-called "hackers" by samantha · · Score: 1

    We hackers that deserve the name and love software and computers should search out these asshats and clean their clocks. This is very uncool.

  20. Their basic argumetn by rossz · · Score: 2

    They say they do it "because we can". They argue if you make it in any way possible for them to DDoS you, you deserve it. There is a limit to how much of an attack you can stop, and even the best planned network is going to go down if you hit it hard enough.

    Bunch of pathetic losers who get off on pirated porn and ruining christmas for kids.

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    1. Re:Their basic argumetn by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The best planned centralised network. Decentralised networks can take it.

    2. Re:Their basic argumetn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the argument is just even more centralization with global laws + enforced QoS + no more anonymous connections.

    3. Re:Their basic argumetn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, your wrong. No more legal anonymous connections. At leas tin some places. There are 200 some odd countries. There is no law that applies everywhere except for I believe treason.

    4. Re:Their basic argumetn by Rhywden · · Score: 1

      Sooo... how do you know who to connect to in such a "decentralised network"? Even the poster child for such connections, BitTorent, relies on someone telling you where to begin connecting.

      I'm talking about match-making capabilities here - if you want to go back to exchanging IP addresses over SMS or something, be my guest.

    5. Re:Their basic argumetn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Decentralization of the xbone or ps4 networks would release some of the control that Microsoft and Sony have over them.

      Ain't gonna happen. MS and Sony would prefer to have non-working, ddos-ed networks rather than relinquish any control.

  21. Re: Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can still "sit down and game with your children", as long as they are in the same house. Just play on your local LAN, socially, with people in the same room. Problem solved.

  22. well-known terrorist technique by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    set up a situation, and see what fixes it. then, for the real attack, allow for the previous fix.

  23. Of all the ways you could spend your holidays... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I suspect sitting around alone playing games or otherwise staring at a screen aren't likely among the best choices.

  24. suddenly, slashdot loves Sony? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's funny - when this happened, the prevailing sentiment on slashdot was to call for the utter destruction of Sony as a company.

    Now that someone wants to contribute to that destruction, suddenly, Sony is good again and is an innocent victim.

    Funny how that works.

    1. Re:suddenly, slashdot loves Sony? by captjc · · Score: 2

      No, you seem to be missing the subtle nuance of the situation. Sony and Microsoft as companies can both fuck-off and die. However, taking down the online game servers isn't attacking either of them as a company, it is attacking the people who bought their products and wanted to play on what could be their only day off.

      I know that I only get off on Christmas Day and New Years Day. I don't have school holidays where I can get a whole week or two off. So if I get my one chance to sit down and play and the servers are down, I'm not going to blame Sony or Microsoft (OK, I probably will). I am going to blame these assholes who took down the servers because reasons.

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    2. Re:suddenly, slashdot loves Sony? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, taking down the online game servers isn't attacking either of them as a company,

      Sure it is. It's making their products and services less desirable, which does harm them financially. No matter what the reason or who did it, if people are too annoyed with their services then fewer people will want to buy those services.

      It makes sense in a way.

    3. Re:suddenly, slashdot loves Sony? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is like attacking Con Ed by blowing up the power grid. Sure, Con Ed will get some blow back but all it does is hurt the customers and Con Ed will just say "it isn't our fault, blame the terrorists"

      Microsoft and Sony may get some heat from the pissed off customers but in the end it will all get blamed on those "evil hackerz" If their PR departments are worth a damn, they will find a way to strengthen their public perception by playing the victim and giving a small empty gesture to their paid subscribers.

    4. Re:suddenly, slashdot loves Sony? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

      That's funny - when this happened, the prevailing sentiment on slashdot was to call for the utter destruction of Sony as a company.

      You make it sound like it was yesterday, it was ten years ago.. If the best argument you've got is something from ten years ago, you're not going to be able sway many people.

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  25. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's already funny and it hasn't even begun!

  26. Is it the Christians? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1, Funny

    Perhaps it is Christian fundamentalists trying to makes sure that kids spend time with their family rather than play video games.

    That's about the only reason I could come up with...

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    1. Re:Is it the Christians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fundamentalists don't want to spend time with their teenage children any more than the rest of us.

    2. Re:Is it the Christians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps it is Christian fundamentalists trying to makes sure that kids spend time with their family rather than play video games.

      That's about the only reason I could come up with...

      This particular fundamentalist Christian was bummed out last Christmas when I could not play Halo:MCC (Digital Download) with my son on our new XB1 (Titanfall or Destiny either!).

  27. Game Servers like Reddit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pfft, REAL gamers use a magnetised needle and a steady hand.

  28. They Are Just Lonely and Bitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't spend the holiday with people that actually care about them so they sit at their computer and try to mess it up for other people. Definition of "loser".

  29. probably the brainwashing of their children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    probably the brainwashing of their children

  30. Pussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Script kiddy pussies. Try something original: do something that is actually useful.

  31. Re:Of all the ways you could spend your holidays.. by captjc · · Score: 1

    The 80's called, they want their stereotypes back.

    Besides, who spends the entirety of Christmas Day with their family outside of little kids? We go over for dinner around 2:00 we leave around 6:00. We all live fairly close by so it isn't like we never see each other. I doubt I am that far off from average in that regard. I know I will be pissed if I can't enjoy playing my new game console on the one day I have off.

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  32. Wow by dank101 · · Score: 1

    They type DDoS as DDOS, they don't understand the concept of grey-hat hacking. They've claimed they've been testing servers with attacks, with no downtime or proof. I can already see this will be the worst DDoS attack ever.

  33. but not Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because their waifus and scalie vore fantasies live there in Smash. Millenial kids these days

  34. Amazon eats their lunch by tgibson · · Score: 1

    even the best planned network is going to go down if you hit it hard enough.

    That's the rub. Hitting it hard enough. As of five years ago, Amazon was beyond reach of these little babies.

  35. Find them by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 0

    and then kill them. They offer nothing to society and the faster this kind of bullshit is seen to be fatal the beter.

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  36. Guess you old UID's don't understand by Nyder · · Score: 2

    I see a lot of people with low UID asking why, and insulting these script kiddies for what they are planning on doing, giving exactly the sort of reaction these script kiddies are looking for. Haven't you learned by now? When peeps going trolling, you go ignoring. Never feed the trolls. Yet all I see is crying and whining and insults getting flung around. You keep feeding the trolls. You are giving them the reaction they are looking for, and they haven't done shit yet.

    Guess what? If they do DDOS the various game networks, so fucking what? You going to cry in front of your kids about how these script kiddies are ruining Xmas for everyone? You going to throw a temper tantrum like a kid? Grow the fuck up. So what if they want to ruin Xmas for people who get new video games? Why are you letting them ruin your xmas? And why you giving them what they want, attention?

    If you are smart (which by posts I am guessing you aren't), you will either give your kids the video games early so they can get them activated (so lame you need to activate games online before you can play them) so they can at least play single player mode if the networks go down. Or just tell your kids to enjoy the holidays doing something other then play video games.

    Whatever you do, quit getting mad at the script kiddies, quit insulting them, quit asking fucking why and just accept that giving attention to trolls just makes them do other things for attention. Ignore them.

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    1. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

      Honestly, my question is, why aren't these console firms using technologies like anycasting to minimize attacks, reduce server latency and redistribute load? This isn't exactly a new technology, I remember doing anycasting configurations over a decade ago that dealt with problems like this.

      Users are paying for xbox live, PSN+ etc. they really should be at least getting something on par to the.. well.. relatively free online multi-player services. Sadly, these users are poorly informed and their poor purchasing habits seem to outweigh those of us that have sense.

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    2. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should know better. Both consoles use localised CDNs, further influenced by your ISP's friendliness to the CDN assigned to your geo-location. You're just a typical PC master-race loser, getting upset millions of others don't share your love for a computer game platform. If these DDoS attacks were pointed at EU or Ubi, you'd lose out on online gaming too. So what does that tell us? These criminals are PC zealots, like yourself. Perhaps you're one of them?

    3. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Both consoles use localised CDNs

      No, they break up CDNs on a region basis, stop making up non-sense. Even hobby projects like Dalnet which sustain larger DDoS attacks can do it.

      You're just a typical PC master-race loser

      I think you're making assumptions about someone you barely know anything about. Clearly I've hit a nerve.

      You're just a typical PC master-race loser, getting upset millions of others don't share your love for a computer game platform.

      Upset? Love? Very emotional language you got going there. However, I don't particularly feel either towards any particular service.

      If these DDoS attacks were pointed at EU or Ubi, you'd lose out on online gaming too.

      Tell me again, why you think I wasn't referring to Wii U's anycasting setup?

      These criminals are PC zealots, like yourself. Perhaps you're one of them?

      Oh yeah, I'm a PC zealot. Because I clearly don't have a selection of game consoles under my television, I clearly don't have physical copies of games that are only playable on consoles (the vast majority of my library are downloadables) and I clearly wouldn't keep backup controllers for when some of mine go faulty.

      It's not suprise you posted as anonymous, you don't want to make a reputation for yourself being ignorant, right?

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    4. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by donaldm · · Score: 2

      Actually a DOoS is only going to affect on-line multi-player and digital downloads or people who really, really need to update their console. If connection is slow well how about a single player game or actually go and talk to your family and friends.

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    5. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both systems as soon as you plug them in need to download and install updates before they can even start playing anything. So no service no workie. Also their friends are all on XBL or PSN and probably not local to them.

    6. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paying £24 a year for a service that gets you more than 48 games, most of which are really good AAA titles is a poor purchasing habit?

      I'm not sure you've thought your troll attempt through, both Live and PSN are incredibly good value for money even without the multiplayer services (which don't just include online play).

      Also, you're doing that thing all too many Slashdotters do, you're assuming neither Sony nor Microsoft can mitigate these attacks, yet you know how, you believe you're simply superior than the countless engineers who built and maintain these networks, and know them and the technologies available and get paid to know them and the technologies available far more than you probably ever will.

      Stop being so arrogant. Ask the question as to what makes it difficult sure, but don't pretend you could solve this problem - the fact they've struggled doesn't imply you're a super-god network ninja and everyone at Sony and Microsoft are inept, it implies you simply have no fucking idea about the strength of the attack, and the necessary intricacies of their respective networks.

      Last years attacks were crafted so as to look exactly like legitimate communications coming from so many globally disparate sources that mitigation is non-trivial. The only way to cope was to simply increase the amount of bandwidth to a level far beyond that which is typical, and frankly at that point it can just be cheaper to let it blow over and compensate your customers with a few free days or whatever.

      It turns out your sense, isn't, given that basically everything you've said is wrong and stupid. Well done, you just made a complete fool of yourself with your misplaced arrogance trying to belittle two groups of people who are apparently much much smarter than you.

      But then, you have an early PS3, WiiU and a Gamecube, so sensible purchasing habits aren't really something you can lecture on anyway.

    7. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Paying £24 a year for a service that gets you more than 48 games

      Any games I had wanted I had already purchased, they do not typically give you new releases immediately either as part of the package (which I generally get cheaper by buying these from big grocerty chains like ASDA than game shops for some reason?). Therefore, value for people like myself is rather limited and only serves as a bonus that is irrelevant.

      you're assuming neither Sony nor Microsoft can mitigate these attacks

      Honestly, that's your assumption. I wasn't saying they weren't doing something to mitigate attacks, I was pointing out a specific technology they were not using to mitigate attacks.

      yet you know how

      Why wouldn't I know some of this stuff? It's not like I haven't made made architecture plans for datacenters before, automated multi-resilience sites for operation.

      you believe you're simply superior

      I don't believe I'm superior, I'm more astonished it isn't happening, hence the why.

      and get paid to know them and the technologies available far more than you probably ever will.

      I don't know, but considering I am rejecting job offers (and I'm not even looking) from the U.S. because they don't pay enough, it would lower my standards of living and not really worrying about money -- This isn't really something I find myself worrying about. Getting certifications when relevant for my day job is the norm for me as well?

      but don't pretend you could solve this problem

      To be frank, I have every confidence that I could solve problems provided corporate red tape does not prevent me from doing so (this includes some architecture decisions). I've had similar problems in my work that involved me implementing interesting solutions that are BGP based with features that weren't explictly designed for such purposes (load balancing without load balancers, redirecting traffic through alternate routes, flagging legitimate traffic through some

      The only way to cope was to simply increase the amount of bandwidth to a level far beyond that which is typical, and frankly at that point it can just be cheaper to let it blow over and compensate your customers with a few free days or whatever

      Or adding better peering and improving their BGP management, I can already see what peering is used on LINX sites (including on the extranet) -- there is much to be desired. They could have spread out infrastructure beyond some regional datacentres and I have no doubt what I see on LINX is their standard on other sites as well.

      It turns out your sense, isn't, given that basically everything you've said is wrong and stupid. Well done, you just made a complete fool of yourself with your misplaced arrogance trying to belittle two groups of people who are apparently much much smarter than you.

      You've made plenty of assumptions about me and they weren't exactly holding true which seems to be what you've based your conclusions on.

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    8. Re:Guess you old UID's don't understand by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      I guess you will be pressing the f5 key a lot as your online enemies fear your 31337 skillz over xmas.

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  37. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh goody! Let's play "Spot the NSA plant".

  38. Meanwhile in a basement somewhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Script Kiddy: "Alright! Lets c wut this DDOS can do!"

    C:\>pingattack reddit.com
    Invalid command or file name!
    C:\>help pingattack
    Help: No help available.
    C:\>ping reddit.com
    Invalid command or file name!
    C:\>ver
    MS. DOS 2.11 [Version 2.11.0]

    Script Kiddy: "I said DDOS not DOS Jimmy! ARGH!"
    Jimmy: I though u wur l33ting up teh DOS wit teh extra D. LOL!!1!!11

  39. Script kiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys are giving these script kiddies more credit than they ever deserve.

  40. Re:Good for them! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    On top of the other replies, what about people who have no family? It isn't like everyone has people to spend the holidays with.

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  41. Who cares, I'm playing Fallout 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go ahead, take my network away, I'm doing single player bitches

  42. Seems they didn't learn from Lizard Squad by djnforce9 · · Score: 1

    Last I checked, Lizard Squad got caught. Not sure why this copycat group believes the same won't happen to them.

    This is neither funny nor does it do anyone any good so hopefully they reconsider before going through with something so foolish.

  43. play original nintendo problem solved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    play original nintendo problem solved