I didn't see how it was relevant to the discussion honestly. I genuinely don't see anyone expecting Apple to provide interfaces to be used in Android and vice versa.
I'm a user, I see it as a good reason. I asked someone else here if that was a good reason to change an interface on other devices, they agreed with me.
Anyone who praises the ribbon is a MS shill. It's a terrible UI convention.
I've bought more software from Mandriva alone than I have from Microsoft and I think it's a decent UI.
There is nothing redeeming about it
Sure there is, it doesn't suffer the older problem of toolbars being different everywhere, it replaces most clicks down to three clicks at most, compared to the 9 clicks you could do in previous versions of Microsoft Office. A user who knows ribbon can reuse it on any other computer because the elements are always located in the same place. Even in the cases where the screen size is smaller, the buttons will resize accordingly without changing positions.
unless hiding features
Considering it takes less clicks to get to things now... I strongly disagree. However, there is likely going to be some very obscure thing you will point out that is not accessible anymore in the ribbon, fair enough.
"It's different, and there was no good reason for said differences".
Here is one good reason. Identical interface across all future products. Phones, tablets, xbox, desktops, tabletops etc. The ability to understand all these different interfaces is greatly simplified once you know one of these. This argument has been completely obliterated now, thanks for playing.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Usability across multiple devices was broken.
This is a basic tenant of usability, and only makes sense.
I Googled and found many conflicting answers, but none of them mentioned "Tools should be adapted to us" as a basic tenant, they did mention this at a different level however. For stuff like "basic tenants", I found they said stuff like "Keep the User Informed". Can you cite your sources better in future? Because so far, I don't believe you.
Just because you didn't find it there doesn't mean it doesn't exist somewhere else.
I'm just going to wait for you to prove it. Because so far, I've been successful in removing it, which disproves your theory applies to everything on the Internet.
A "right to be forgotten" implies silencing those who do not want a person's actions forgotten, and this must not be allowed.
How does it imply that? The legal document talks about companies being required to remove personal information like your home address and phone number, not what you did.
Think twice before you post ANYTHING online. Because once its there, its there forever.
I tested your theory by posting a unique image on to Google+, I then deleted it. I have not been able to find this unique image since. What did I do wrong?
Don't get me wrong, I love the rapid release cycle and all the new features and improvements they put in those release, but those version numbers are driving me insane.
It's just a version number, take a chill pill. At least it's clear if you're on the latest version of Firefox this way, compared to what I have to deal with in my own software (which is date based), where people just keep reciting the major version number (telling me the year) whenever there is a problem (fairly unhelpful).
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Is that even possible?
Are you trying to claim I'm not a user?
I didn't see how it was relevant to the discussion honestly. I genuinely don't see anyone expecting Apple to provide interfaces to be used in Android and vice versa.
Off topic, actually.
Aw, you ran out of arguments already. :(
Maybe you should update your old newsletter meme to say "add your G+ page" or "Facebook page" or "Twitter" etc.
With tech like flexible e-ink displays, assuming it becomes a trivial cost to produce, why not?
I'm a user, I see it as a good reason. I asked someone else here if that was a good reason to change an interface on other devices, they agreed with me.
Your argument seems to be falling apart.
I don't use a mouse much, this problem doesn't effect me. I do like how things are easier to control from the keyboard in Windows 8.
This user who uses the Ribbon interface disagrees with you, Mr. AC.
Eww, Midnight Commander is so much better.
Note: I am not the grand parent.
I've bought more software from Mandriva alone than I have from Microsoft and I think it's a decent UI.
Sure there is, it doesn't suffer the older problem of toolbars being different everywhere, it replaces most clicks down to three clicks at most, compared to the 9 clicks you could do in previous versions of Microsoft Office. A user who knows ribbon can reuse it on any other computer because the elements are always located in the same place. Even in the cases where the screen size is smaller, the buttons will resize accordingly without changing positions.
Considering it takes less clicks to get to things now... I strongly disagree. However, there is likely going to be some very obscure thing you will point out that is not accessible anymore in the ribbon, fair enough.
Users are always 'alienated' with any change.
Cool story, bro.
I see it in the group polices just fine here.
Would a screenshot of the post suffice?
I've seen iOS users hate Android interfaces and Android users hate iOS interface when having to use those devices. They hate significant change.
Here is one good reason. Identical interface across all future products. Phones, tablets, xbox, desktops, tabletops etc. The ability to understand all these different interfaces is greatly simplified once you know one of these. This argument has been completely obliterated now, thanks for playing.
Usability across multiple devices was broken.
I Googled and found many conflicting answers, but none of them mentioned "Tools should be adapted to us" as a basic tenant, they did mention this at a different level however. For stuff like "basic tenants", I found they said stuff like "Keep the User Informed". Can you cite your sources better in future? Because so far, I don't believe you.
I'm just going to wait for you to prove it. Because so far, I've been successful in removing it, which disproves your theory applies to everything on the Internet.
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How does it imply that? The legal document talks about companies being required to remove personal information like your home address and phone number, not what you did.
The right to be forgotten only applies to personally identifiable information.
Why do you need the right to know someone's home address again? I can't really think of many 'good' reasons.
I tested your theory by posting a unique image on to Google+, I then deleted it. I have not been able to find this unique image since. What did I do wrong?
They did, and you agreed to it. You see, Facebook has this thing called a 'terms of service'...
You can sell open source software just fine.
Yeah, but flying them over and putting them in hotels each time there is an issue would be annoying and take so long.
They aren't, they tend to vary greatly from year to year.
Why'd they remove it from the download page? Seems kind of weird to remove supported versions from the download page.
It's just a version number, take a chill pill. At least it's clear if you're on the latest version of Firefox this way, compared to what I have to deal with in my own software (which is date based), where people just keep reciting the major version number (telling me the year) whenever there is a problem (fairly unhelpful).