In modern operating systems, threads also have an I/O priority. For example, Linux has ionice. So if you decrease the I/O priority of the du-equivalent, and some other process wants to use the hard drive, it'll get scheduled before du does.
In theory, at least. I'm interested to read how I/O priority practice differs from theory.
If you've never seen a greeter check your receipt, you must have never bought anything at Walmart that is bigger than a plastic carry bag, such as the sort of computer on which one runs a Swift compiler.
I thought all the articles making the "tailor Swift" pun mentioned that Apple distributes the reference implementation of Swift under the Apache License 2.0. If a work is distributed as free software under that license, it isn't "proprietary software" by the FSF's definition. What definition of "proprietary" are you using?
I am not a power user. I am not a computer geek. I just want an OS that lets me do my work and gets out of the way. It's not that hard. All the Linux distros do it for FREE.
If it's so FREE, then why does the Linux version of a Dell XPS 13 laptop cost $50 more than the Windows version of the same laptop?
Modern Chromebooks run all android apps in addition to their normal stuff, they also are capable of running full Linux distros in parallel with ChromeOS.
LAME was indisputably better than Fraunhofer by 2001.
LAME did this by infringing on patents and copyrighted code.
Grandparent said 2001. LAME had already removed all of ISO's copyrighted demo code by May 2000. The patents were an issue only because compression users hadn't yet begun to push toward royalty-free codecs. By that time, Xiph's Vorbis encoder was handily beating both LAME and Fraunhofer's MP3 encoder in rate-distortion performance.
True, but running this software on Linux still has benefits.
Telemetry
What's better: GIMP on X11/Linux or GIMP on a copy of Windows that exfiltrates your usage habits to Microsoft for use in displaying advertisements for things you just already bought? Unlike telemetry in Windows 10, telemetry in Linux distributions is optional and, even if enabled, no finer than which packages are used.
Predictable reboots
What's better: Firefox on X11/Linux or Firefox on a copy of Windows that periodically loses unsaved work on a suspended PC when it reboots overnight? Unlike reboots in Windows 10, reboots in Linux distributions don't happen automatically. True, one might argue that the real problem to fix is that work is unsaved in the first place. But some people hold off on saving because applications fail to provide "Undo Save" or "Save Untitled Document But Keep It Untitled And Reopen It After Restart" options.
Predictable Internet data transfer quota usage
What's better: LibreOffice on X11/Linux or LibreOffice on a copy of Windows that eats up your satellite Internet provider's data transfer quota for the month downloading a 3 GB semiannual update without warning? At least with Linux, you have a chance to drive into town to perform the download on unmetered Wi-Fi in a library or restaurant, and home and small office users have the option to follow a long-term-support (LTS) branch, which is biennial (24 months) rather than semiannual (6 months).
Based on what I've already read, I'm under the impression that the WSL container doesn't give applications enough privileges to access the video hardware, which would be required to run an X server inside WSL.
Or were you referring to running the X server in the Win32 environment and allowing WSL applications to connect to it? This is the approach taken by Xming, but its free version hasn't been updated in a decade.
Telemetry, that's what is missing on a pure distro. [...] Finally a Linux with advertising in the main menu
You mean Ubuntu?
I can't tell which of these antifeatures (telemetry or advertising) you're claiming applies to Ubuntu. If you mean advertising, Ubuntu abandoned the Unity "shopping lens" long ago. If you mean telemetry, you can turn off all Ubuntu telemetry, but don't complain when Ubuntu drops your favorite package because your usage thereof didn't register on your distribution maintainers' radar.
Which of the following would you prefer that the maintainer of a computer program do, given a limited budget of time=money? A. Fix bugs in components that end users often use B. Fix bugs in components that end users seldom use
You DO realize that the choice is NOT mutually exclusive, right?
It is when a publisher has a limited amount of money to spend on hiring people to fix bugs.
So how did they manage for the past 30 years without Telemetry???
By charging more. I seem to remember Windows 7 retail being more expensive at launch than Windows 10 retail was at launch. Charging more led some PC makers to try loading GNU/Linux onto ultra-low-cost PCs. In addition, Windows 7 had fewer features to maintain than Windows 10, though I admit fewer antifeatures as well. There was no UWP in Windows 7, for instance.
* Opt-in is fine. * Opt-out is bullshit.
Would you prefer that your computer be attacked by a botnet of people who failed to opt-in to security updates?
Do you even understand what a bug report is?
First, the information sent along with the bug report is a form of telemetry. Second, proactive reports that a package is still in use prevent the maintainer from removing a rarely downloaded package from the repository and having to field bug reports to reinstate the package.
Gee, if only there was a such as concept as a low-priority thread.
Of the following possibilities, which would you prefer?
A. You navigate to a folder, see "Measuring..." for subfolder sizes, and hear HDD thrashing while a low-priority thread measures each subfolder, causing you to become impatient and navigate away after fifteen seconds. B. You navigate to a folder, see "Measuring..." for subfolder sizes, and hear HDD thrashing while a low-priority thread measures each subfolder. Because you are patient, you sit and wait for the background measurement to complete, only for "Measuring..." to be replaced with "n/a" once the background measurement realizes that you lack permission to some subfolder. C. You navigate to a folder and see "n/a", and the HDD doesn't thrash at all, because the file manager isn't even measuring the folder.
All have the same outcome: the folder size is not displayed before you navigate away.
If you want/need to run some Linux tool, they want to make it as easy as possible to run that on Windows.
Is that just for command line tools or also for tools that present a graphical user interface (GUI)? Or should all GUI applications for Linux be client-server, with a web or UWP front-end and a Linux back-end? Good luck getting that past the "I don't want any script in my document viewer!" crowd that inhabits parts of Slashdot.
Last I checked, Wine required an X server, and Microsoft didn't provide one for WSL. Nor has the free version of Xming been updated in over a decade.
Or are you referring to running Linux on the bare metal and running applications in Wine? That works so long as Linux and X.Org support your PC's hardware. Though some PCs work better with Linux, others work better with Windows, sometimes fairly spectacularly.
Microsoft has never claimed anyone is going to buy Windows purely to run WSL.
Even if Microsoft has not claimed so, a few some Slashdot users have. When asked what Linux laptop to use in size ranges that System76 doesn't cover, particularly smaller than 13", I seem to remember a few users replying suggesting buying a Windows laptop and running WSL.
Have they disabled telemetry in Windows 10 yet? Why was ON in the _first_ place??
Which of the following would you prefer that the maintainer of a computer program do, given a limited budget of time=money?
A. Fix bugs in components that end users often use B. Fix bugs in components that end users seldom use
If you guessed "A", then the next step is to measure which features end users often use. Telemetry does this. Even GNU/Linux distributions have this sort of thing, such as the optional popularity-contest package in Debian and Ubuntu. I think Microsoft forces it on as a condition of support so that users can't disable telemetry and then turn around and complain that this or that feature is broken or is being removed from the system.
Can Explorer show me folder sizes yet?
Would it be acceptable for folder sizes in a file manager to initially appear as a throbber and then be replaced with the actual size after several seconds of HDD thrashing? Or would you prefer that a file manager hide the contents of a folder entirely until it has run the equivalent of du to query all folders within that folder for their sizes? On any Linux distribution, try time du on your home directory after a fresh reboot. And what value would you prefer that a file manager show for the size of the folder if the current user lacks permission to traverse some subfolder?
The point is making sure people who develop for a Linux target (a mobile device, a phone, etc) use Windows on their desk.
Has WSL gained support for X.Org or Wayland or both recently? If not, then how is someone who develops a GUI application for an X11+Linux or Wayland+Linux target supposed to test?
A ruling in Oracle's favor would shut down the ability to use Wine to run Windows-exclusive applications on your Mac because Microsoft could assert copyright in the Windows API against the Wine developers. Is that an outcome that you find helpful to the economy?
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And if a higher priority thread wants those milliseconds, it'll get them before the background thread does.
In modern operating systems, threads also have an I/O priority. For example, Linux has ionice. So if you decrease the I/O priority of the du-equivalent, and some other process wants to use the hard drive, it'll get scheduled before du does.
In theory, at least. I'm interested to read how I/O priority practice differs from theory.
If you've never seen a greeter check your receipt, you must have never bought anything at Walmart that is bigger than a plastic carry bag, such as the sort of computer on which one runs a Swift compiler.
I thought all the articles making the "tailor Swift" pun mentioned that Apple distributes the reference implementation of Swift under the Apache License 2.0. If a work is distributed as free software under that license, it isn't "proprietary software" by the FSF's definition. What definition of "proprietary" are you using?
I am not a power user. I am not a computer geek. I just want an OS that lets me do my work and gets out of the way. It's not that hard. All the Linux distros do it for FREE.
If it's so FREE, then why does the Linux version of a Dell XPS 13 laptop cost $50 more than the Windows version of the same laptop?
What operating system for pocket computers sold in the United States isn't "designed [...] to make you pay for things"?
There are many X servers for Windows available.
Then why doesn't Microsoft offer a list of them when WSL is being installed, as it used to do with the "Browser Choice" thing in Europe?
Nor has the free version of Xming been updated in over a decade.
I run gnome-terminal via WSL/Xming whenever I need a terminal in Windows.
Free Xming or paid Xming?
The free version of Xming has gone years without updates. In your experience, is it still stable after all these years?
Modern Chromebooks run all android apps in addition to their normal stuff, they also are capable of running full Linux distros in parallel with ChromeOS.
How does that work without putting the Chromebook into a "developer mode" where it'll wipe itself at next boot if someone turns it on and looks at it funny? Did Google recently push out an update to Chrome OS that allows installing GNU and X11 in a container?
"14 competing standards"?
I guess you could say AV1 came into being because HEVC was failing to compete in a licensing sense.
LAME was indisputably better than Fraunhofer by 2001.
LAME did this by infringing on patents and copyrighted code.
Grandparent said 2001. LAME had already removed all of ISO's copyrighted demo code by May 2000. The patents were an issue only because compression users hadn't yet begun to push toward royalty-free codecs. By that time, Xiph's Vorbis encoder was handily beating both LAME and Fraunhofer's MP3 encoder in rate-distortion performance.
Good Linux GUI software is cross platform
True, but running this software on Linux still has benefits.
Telemetry What's better: GIMP on X11/Linux or GIMP on a copy of Windows that exfiltrates your usage habits to Microsoft for use in displaying advertisements for things you just already bought? Unlike telemetry in Windows 10, telemetry in Linux distributions is optional and, even if enabled, no finer than which packages are used. Predictable reboots What's better: Firefox on X11/Linux or Firefox on a copy of Windows that periodically loses unsaved work on a suspended PC when it reboots overnight? Unlike reboots in Windows 10, reboots in Linux distributions don't happen automatically. True, one might argue that the real problem to fix is that work is unsaved in the first place. But some people hold off on saving because applications fail to provide "Undo Save" or "Save Untitled Document But Keep It Untitled And Reopen It After Restart" options. Predictable Internet data transfer quota usage What's better: LibreOffice on X11/Linux or LibreOffice on a copy of Windows that eats up your satellite Internet provider's data transfer quota for the month downloading a 3 GB semiannual update without warning? At least with Linux, you have a chance to drive into town to perform the download on unmetered Wi-Fi in a library or restaurant, and home and small office users have the option to follow a long-term-support (LTS) branch, which is biennial (24 months) rather than semiannual (6 months).Based on what I've already read, I'm under the impression that the WSL container doesn't give applications enough privileges to access the video hardware, which would be required to run an X server inside WSL.
Or were you referring to running the X server in the Win32 environment and allowing WSL applications to connect to it? This is the approach taken by Xming, but its free version hasn't been updated in a decade.
Telemetry, that's what is missing on a pure distro. [...] Finally a Linux with advertising in the main menu
You mean Ubuntu?
I can't tell which of these antifeatures (telemetry or advertising) you're claiming applies to Ubuntu. If you mean advertising, Ubuntu abandoned the Unity "shopping lens" long ago. If you mean telemetry, you can turn off all Ubuntu telemetry, but don't complain when Ubuntu drops your favorite package because your usage thereof didn't register on your distribution maintainers' radar.
Which of the following would you prefer that the maintainer of a computer program do, given a limited budget of time=money?
A. Fix bugs in components that end users often use
B. Fix bugs in components that end users seldom use
You DO realize that the choice is NOT mutually exclusive, right?
It is when a publisher has a limited amount of money to spend on hiring people to fix bugs.
So how did they manage for the past 30 years without Telemetry???
By charging more. I seem to remember Windows 7 retail being more expensive at launch than Windows 10 retail was at launch. Charging more led some PC makers to try loading GNU/Linux onto ultra-low-cost PCs. In addition, Windows 7 had fewer features to maintain than Windows 10, though I admit fewer antifeatures as well. There was no UWP in Windows 7, for instance.
* Opt-in is fine.
* Opt-out is bullshit.
Would you prefer that your computer be attacked by a botnet of people who failed to opt-in to security updates?
Do you even understand what a bug report is?
First, the information sent along with the bug report is a form of telemetry. Second, proactive reports that a package is still in use prevent the maintainer from removing a rarely downloaded package from the repository and having to field bug reports to reinstate the package.
Gee, if only there was a such as concept as a low-priority thread.
Of the following possibilities, which would you prefer?
A. You navigate to a folder, see "Measuring..." for subfolder sizes, and hear HDD thrashing while a low-priority thread measures each subfolder, causing you to become impatient and navigate away after fifteen seconds.
B. You navigate to a folder, see "Measuring..." for subfolder sizes, and hear HDD thrashing while a low-priority thread measures each subfolder. Because you are patient, you sit and wait for the background measurement to complete, only for "Measuring..." to be replaced with "n/a" once the background measurement realizes that you lack permission to some subfolder.
C. You navigate to a folder and see "n/a", and the HDD doesn't thrash at all, because the file manager isn't even measuring the folder.
All have the same outcome: the folder size is not displayed before you navigate away.
If you want/need to run some Linux tool, they want to make it as easy as possible to run that on Windows.
Is that just for command line tools or also for tools that present a graphical user interface (GUI)? Or should all GUI applications for Linux be client-server, with a web or UWP front-end and a Linux back-end? Good luck getting that past the "I don't want any script in my document viewer!" crowd that inhabits parts of Slashdot.
Last I checked, Wine required an X server, and Microsoft didn't provide one for WSL. Nor has the free version of Xming been updated in over a decade.
Or are you referring to running Linux on the bare metal and running applications in Wine? That works so long as Linux and X.Org support your PC's hardware. Though some PCs work better with Linux, others work better with Windows, sometimes fairly spectacularly.
Microsoft has never claimed anyone is going to buy Windows purely to run WSL.
Even if Microsoft has not claimed so, a few some Slashdot users have. When asked what Linux laptop to use in size ranges that System76 doesn't cover, particularly smaller than 13", I seem to remember a few users replying suggesting buying a Windows laptop and running WSL.
Have they disabled telemetry in Windows 10 yet? Why was ON in the _first_ place??
Which of the following would you prefer that the maintainer of a computer program do, given a limited budget of time=money?
A. Fix bugs in components that end users often use
B. Fix bugs in components that end users seldom use
If you guessed "A", then the next step is to measure which features end users often use. Telemetry does this. Even GNU/Linux distributions have this sort of thing, such as the optional popularity-contest package in Debian and Ubuntu. I think Microsoft forces it on as a condition of support so that users can't disable telemetry and then turn around and complain that this or that feature is broken or is being removed from the system.
Can Explorer show me folder sizes yet?
Would it be acceptable for folder sizes in a file manager to initially appear as a throbber and then be replaced with the actual size after several seconds of HDD thrashing? Or would you prefer that a file manager hide the contents of a folder entirely until it has run the equivalent of du to query all folders within that folder for their sizes? On any Linux distribution, try time du on your home directory after a fresh reboot. And what value would you prefer that a file manager show for the size of the folder if the current user lacks permission to traverse some subfolder?
The point is making sure people who develop for a Linux target (a mobile device, a phone, etc) use Windows on their desk.
Has WSL gained support for X.Org or Wayland or both recently? If not, then how is someone who develops a GUI application for an X11+Linux or Wayland+Linux target supposed to test?
Lastly though, I have to say think it would be awful to lose WINE. But the question is, would it be wrong?
Any exclusive right in a work of authorship that fails "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" is wrong.
SuperKendall wrote:
for tablets you can also buy keyboard cases that integrate cover and keyboard.
Which combination of tablet and keyboard case that totals less than $300 is any good? An iPad mini alone costs that much
An Apple iShiny is complete over-kill.
Though I agree with that, I was customizing the phrasing to be more relevant to the fan of Apple products to whom I was replying.
A ruling in Oracle's favor would shut down the ability to use Wine to run Windows-exclusive applications on your Mac because Microsoft could assert copyright in the Windows API against the Wine developers. Is that an outcome that you find helpful to the economy?