Probably because it is classed as a "Cult" and not a "Religion" due to the secretive nature of the core teachings, ceremonies, inner workings, etc, etc. Those sound like valid reasons, I guess.
Oh and the fact that the "founder" pretty much straight up acknowledges that he made up the fictitious "religion" *cough*Cult*cough* to sell books and make money. Well, if someone admits to lying about something ('making something up' could be considered lying), you basically have to consider that anything they say might be a lie; how do you know if they were lying then as they claim, or are lying now.
People in China think it's free because they have little to no interest in anything from other countries. It's mostly radicals and people from other countries who want to disseminate their illeducated opinions into China that care about the censorship.
Of course, we're really talking about the web here, not the internet in general.
I guess people are disagreeing with the law, if it says that it is illegal to use an open access point.
What happens when you have your device set up to use a commercial open access point, and some one's home also has the same setup?
As far as I can tell, there's no way for your device to distinguish between the two. So, short of switching off the device, you can't help but break the law.
In my case, the coffee shop offers free wifi and hasn't changed it's SSID. As far as I know, that's not illegal. So, I use my device to connect to it. Now my device will connect to any network with that SSID - even if I am *in* the coffee shop I don't know why network is the correct one.
I'm going to change my home's open wifi's SSID to 'Starbucks'. Does that mean I help people break the law?
This law is clearly wrong, IMO - and I think others agree. It's a good job there actually has to be a legal person involved in order to discern between the different cases.
...so that we can continue hot Sceintology bashing... I was thinking something along those lines. There seems to be a lot of 'bashing' happening on/. lately. I wonder if such articles get more posts and therefore more advertising revenue, or something.
All we need is for there to be a Chinese-Scientology link and we'll have the most commented-on story ever.
Hrm. I wonder if there are any stats on/. stories - ie which story received the most comments, the most highly rated comments, the most 'funny', the most 'flame bate'/etc/etc. That'd be interesting, don't you think? So, interesting, there's probably already a page somewhere on it that I haven't seen yet (I'm rarely the first to think of these things).
> Luckily for open source projects there's an easy audit trail (so long as you compile from that source - a premade binary distributed with source could still contain malicious code simply not included in the provided source).
I thought you also had to trust the compiler, and the compiler that was used to compile the compiler etc/etc. Looking at the source code isn't enough to be 100% sure.
> I don't deny anyone a right to make a buck off their sweat, but you know the chance of this happening with OSS is less, due to public scrutiny and many prying eyes.
'This' being "making a buck off their sweat", or the username/password harvesting?
This is an interesting point. I wonder if the login history of the account shows that he hasn't bothered to log in for quite a while - perhaps it is an account specifically for this purpose rather than his usual account. That might give credence to his claim of it being debug code and having forgotten about it.
I suppose he could have had the passwords filtered in some way and not noticed the 'folder' (or whatever gmail has) filling up.
Perhaps, but I like to think it's because, if they didn't run it for free, a lot of their customers would just go somewhere else that does have free wifi - I know that's true for me.
I know of one Starbucks in Beijing that doesn't have wifi at all - in Beihai (IIRC) - and I've not been there again. All SPR Coffee and Pacific Coffee shops have free wifi, their coffee is just as good (though I'm not from the US so I'm not as fussy), and the seats are just as comphy.
So, how should I distinguish between the hot spot run by SPR Coffee in DongZhiMen shopping mall who's SSID is 'D-LINK' and some nearby home who also have a d-link router but hasn't secured it? Seems impossible to me...
I added 'linksys' and a few other common SSIDs and it gets my email while I'm walking down the street, or on a bus:) You can quickly get a lot more than email doing that. Oh? Care to elaborate?
Some other countries, are *far* better. China, for example, never charges for wifi - well, I've never found a place that charges. Even Starbucks has it for free. SPR Coffee. Pacific Coffee. All free - not even a home page or login. Just fire it up and go - like at home (probably very similar equipment and service).
I use a free product called Devicescape where you can add hotspots and other wifi access points; it'll create a single fake access point on your device and automatically switch between the real ones when it finds them. Works pretty well on my Nokia E90. I added 'linksys' and a few other common SSIDs and it gets my email while I'm walking down the street, or on a bus:)
Yeah, now at least I can understand what they're saying on TV. It's still crap, but at least I can understand it.
FYI, I'm using a Nokia E90, but any S60 phone should do :
1) start the 'Gallery' application 2) select 'Streaming links' 3) 'Options', 'New link' 4) select either 'Phone memory' or your memory card (whatever it's called) - I selected my memory card - then 'OK' 5) Enter a name for the stream, say the channel name that's in the file - eg "A and E Mobile", then 'OK' 6) Enter the URL as is in the file, including the rtsp:// - then 'ok'
then you get an entry in your 'streaming links' list, which you can click on. That will inform you that a connection to the server is needed and ask if that's ok - press 'ok' (if it's ok).
It didn't work the first time for me because I had the default access point set to a network that wasn't accessible. I'm using wifi, of course - yymv on a cell network (perhaps they block various ports).
Considering those SGI's 1024 CPU thingies are not SMP machines I'm guessing it's established who the idiot is... Well, I don't think that quite qualifies as 'idiot'. NUMA scalability is still relevant and interesting - and some such systems are indeed SMP (ie systems with a single node) - their Altix ICE seems to go up to 2 quad-core Xeons per node, which would be 8 (it seems to be very similar to one of the configs they used in TFA).
In any case, I didn't mention which "serious SGI" kit. Even their power series systems back in the '80s went upto 8 CPUS (4D380S), and they've had several different architectures since (though mostly ccNUMA). Their Challenge XL (hehe)series also went upto 8, and applications scaled very nicely too.
Of course, other manufacturers continued making even larger SMP systems - wikipedia mentions "ASCI Red had 4,510 [cpus]".
Perhaps the linearity of the scaling performance from 1-8 shown in TFA is interesting, but 8 is pretty where things start to get interesting (scalability-wise).
"It should also be noted that dual socket Opteron designs are technically ccNUMA designs, though they can be programmed as SMP for a slight loss in performance."
So they could have run in SMP mode, I suppose, and wikipedia doesn't mention the Intel's design (so I suppose it's SMP, but Intel can do some weird stuff too).
Wow. An apology on/. - I'm not sure how to respond to that. So unusual.:p
btw, 'ssi' stands for 'single system image' - the concept that the entire computer is running a single copy of the OS and so each application has access to all the resources of the computer...or something like that. It's supposed to exclude clusters since they don't work well with some application/problems.
More directly applicable is Nokia, who release firmware upgrades for their phones for free, as well as sdks/etc/etc. There's also a free IDEavailable.
Symbian, of course, is another matter, but freeware signing has always been free, albeit slow, and they're also changing things to make it better, since it was far from satisfactory.
I'm the same. Ever since I got my Nokia E90 I've never found it necessary to use my (Apple) laptop. The E90 has pretty much everything I need. I can certainly find cause to criticise it, but it's pretty much there and is a good laptop replacement for trips/etc.
The E90 has 3G, GPS, wifi, quickoffice and adobe pdf, a 3.2M pixel camera that does video as well as stills, a real web browser (using it now), and a real qwerty keyboard (in addition to the regular phone one). There're also plenty of 3rd party apps I can install (including my own) such as one that plays the flash video from youtube -and plays it just fine too. It's quite an old device now (pre-dates the iPhone - Apple's that is), but it's still quite functional. Certainly not a sexy though.
while the mobile version of the media player is "is not capable of being used with the web.
Okay, that one doesn't even make sense. Unless it in some way requires use of the cellular-telephony-specific hardware in an iPhone, it will work "with the web", on a PC (or Mac, as the case dictates). I think he's alluding to the fact that the mobile version of flash just doesn't do the same things as the desktop version. I don't know the details, but there are significant gaps in functionality. There was a fairly recent version of flash which was more useful, on S60 at least, but, again, I don't know the technical details.
Here's something for you to read. Maybe it sheds some light on it.
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People in China think it's free because they have little to no interest in anything from other countries. It's mostly radicals and people from other countries who want to disseminate their illeducated opinions into China that care about the censorship.
Of course, we're really talking about the web here, not the internet in general.
I guess people are disagreeing with the law, if it says that it is illegal to use an open access point.
What happens when you have your device set up to use a commercial open access point, and some one's home also has the same setup?
As far as I can tell, there's no way for your device to distinguish between the two. So, short of switching off the device, you can't help but break the law.
In my case, the coffee shop offers free wifi and hasn't changed it's SSID. As far as I know, that's not illegal. So, I use my device to connect to it. Now my device will connect to any network with that SSID - even if I am *in* the coffee shop I don't know why network is the correct one.
I'm going to change my home's open wifi's SSID to 'Starbucks'. Does that mean I help people break the law?
This law is clearly wrong, IMO - and I think others agree. It's a good job there actually has to be a legal person involved in order to discern between the different cases.
...so that we can continue hot Sceintology bashing... I was thinking something along those lines. There seems to be a lot of 'bashing' happening onAll we need is for there to be a Chinese-Scientology link and we'll have the most commented-on story ever.
Hrm. I wonder if there are any stats on
> as no-one could ever confuse this group with any modern day religion!
I'm curious; why wouldn't you confuse it with a religion? What is a 'modern day' religion?
I ask these questions as a Christian myself, and a regular old boring protestant one at that.
> Luckily for open source projects there's an easy audit trail (so long as you compile from that source - a premade binary distributed with source could still contain malicious code simply not included in the provided source).
I thought you also had to trust the compiler, and the compiler that was used to compile the compiler etc/etc. Looking at the source code isn't enough to be 100% sure.
> I don't deny anyone a right to make a buck off their sweat, but you know the chance of this happening with OSS is less, due to public scrutiny and many prying eyes.
'This' being "making a buck off their sweat", or the username/password harvesting?
It seems like both are valid observations.
This is an interesting point. I wonder if the login history of the account shows that he hasn't bothered to log in for quite a while - perhaps it is an account specifically for this purpose rather than his usual account. That might give credence to his claim of it being debug code and having forgotten about it.
I suppose he could have had the passwords filtered in some way and not noticed the 'folder' (or whatever gmail has) filling up.
Perhaps, but I like to think it's because, if they didn't run it for free, a lot of their customers would just go somewhere else that does have free wifi - I know that's true for me.
I know of one Starbucks in Beijing that doesn't have wifi at all - in Beihai (IIRC) - and I've not been there again. All SPR Coffee and Pacific Coffee shops have free wifi, their coffee is just as good (though I'm not from the US so I'm not as fussy), and the seats are just as comphy.
Wow. You're amazingly clued up on Chinese law.
So, how should I distinguish between the hot spot run by SPR Coffee in DongZhiMen shopping mall who's SSID is 'D-LINK' and some nearby home who also have a d-link router but hasn't secured it? Seems impossible to me...
> some Other countries can be far worse
:)
Some other countries, are *far* better. China, for example, never charges for wifi - well, I've never found a place that charges. Even Starbucks has it for free. SPR Coffee. Pacific Coffee. All free - not even a home page or login. Just fire it up and go - like at home (probably very similar equipment and service).
I use a free product called Devicescape where you can add hotspots and other wifi access points; it'll create a single fake access point on your device and automatically switch between the real ones when it finds them. Works pretty well on my Nokia E90. I added 'linksys' and a few other common SSIDs and it gets my email while I'm walking down the street, or on a bus
But, yes, that certainly isn't cheap.
ROC?
Yeah, now at least I can understand what they're saying on TV. It's still crap, but at least I can understand it.
FYI, I'm using a Nokia E90, but any S60 phone should do :
1) start the 'Gallery' application
2) select 'Streaming links'
3) 'Options', 'New link'
4) select either 'Phone memory' or your memory card (whatever it's called) - I selected my memory card - then 'OK'
5) Enter a name for the stream, say the channel name that's in the file - eg "A and E Mobile", then 'OK'
6) Enter the URL as is in the file, including the rtsp:// - then 'ok'
then you get an entry in your 'streaming links' list, which you can click on. That will inform you that a connection to the server is needed and ask if that's ok - press 'ok' (if it's ok).
It didn't work the first time for me because I had the default access point set to a network that wasn't accessible. I'm using wifi, of course - yymv on a cell network (perhaps they block various ports).
In any case, I didn't mention which "serious SGI" kit. Even their power series systems back in the '80s went upto 8 CPUS (4D380S), and they've had several different architectures since (though mostly ccNUMA). Their Challenge XL (hehe)series also went upto 8, and applications scaled very nicely too.
Of course, other manufacturers continued making even larger SMP systems - wikipedia mentions "ASCI Red had 4,510 [cpus]".
Perhaps the linearity of the scaling performance from 1-8 shown in TFA is interesting, but 8 is pretty where things start to get interesting (scalability-wise).
As a side-note, I read this in wikipedia's smp article :
"It should also be noted that dual socket Opteron designs are technically ccNUMA designs, though they can be programmed as SMP for a slight loss in performance."
So they could have run in SMP mode, I suppose, and wikipedia doesn't mention the Intel's design (so I suppose it's SMP, but Intel can do some weird stuff too).
Wow. An apology on /. - I'm not sure how to respond to that. So unusual. :p
...or something like that. It's supposed to exclude clusters since they don't work well with some application/problems.
btw, 'ssi' stands for 'single system image' - the concept that the entire computer is running a single copy of the OS and so each application has access to all the resources of the computer
More directly applicable is Nokia, who release firmware upgrades for their phones for free, as well as sdks/etc/etc. There's also a free IDEavailable.
Symbian, of course, is another matter, but freeware signing has always been free, albeit slow, and they're also changing things to make it better, since it was far from satisfactory.
IINM, the N800 runs the full version of flash, not the mobile version aka flash light.
What effect did running it have on battery life?
It was a lame attempt at being funny. Should have signed it 'smp snob' I guess.
Is 8-way still considered SMP? I mean, 8-way is kind of consumer level now, isn't it? Even Apple produce 8-way machines SSI machines.
Get it to scale on some serious SGI kit, for example, then we'll talk.
I'm the same. Ever since I got my Nokia E90 I've never found it necessary to use my (Apple) laptop. The E90 has pretty much everything I need. I can certainly find cause to criticise it, but it's pretty much there and is a good laptop replacement for trips/etc.
The E90 has 3G, GPS, wifi, quickoffice and adobe pdf, a 3.2M pixel camera that does video as well as stills, a real web browser (using it now), and a real qwerty keyboard (in addition to the regular phone one). There're also plenty of 3rd party apps I can install (including my own) such as one that plays the flash video from youtube -and plays it just fine too.
It's quite an old device now (pre-dates the iPhone - Apple's that is), but it's still quite functional. Certainly not a sexy though.
Okay, that one doesn't even make sense. Unless it in some way requires use of the cellular-telephony-specific hardware in an iPhone, it will work "with the web", on a PC (or Mac, as the case dictates). I think he's alluding to the fact that the mobile version of flash just doesn't do the same things as the desktop version. I don't know the details, but there are significant gaps in functionality. There was a fairly recent version of flash which was more useful, on S60 at least, but, again, I don't know the technical details.
Here's something for you to read. Maybe it sheds some light on it.
Nokia Web (also webkit) on E90-1 doesn't work at all. I'm not sure why...it pops up a txt note with some 'fail' html in it.
odd.
> I'm getting a 49/100 in my FF :(.
Ha, even Netscape Navigator 9 gets 50/100, and that's not even a supported product any more!
My webkit-based browser fails immediately. It doesn't crash though, as does FF3.0b3 on Mac.