All we can do is lobby the opposition parties to block it in the senate.
One of the undesireable side effects of the 9/11 atrocity was to give conservative governments world wide an excuse to enact ever more oppressive legislation and collude with big business.
On December 12, 2003, the Court directed SCOto "respond fully and in detail" to IBM's Interrogatory Nos. 1-9, and 12 and 13, and to "produce all equested documents" in IBM's document requests by January 12, 2003.
On january 12, 2003, SCO served its Revised Supplemental Response to IBM's First and Second Set of Interrogatories (the "Revised Response", attached hereto as Exhibit 1). In the accompanying "Notice of Compiance With Court order of December 12, 2003", which was filed with the Court, SCO represented that it had "responded fully and in detail to Interrogatories 1-9, 12 and 13...based on the information in SCO's possession" and had "produced all the non-privileged responsive documents requested by IBM" with the exception of certain files that would be promptly produced.
Despite these representations, however, SCO in fact failed to comply with the Court's order in numerous respects [1] the most important ow which are addressed below.
First, contrary to its representations to the Court on January 12, 2004, SCO now admits that it has in fact not produced numerous catagories of non=privleged responsive docuemnts. In a letter dated January 30, 2004, (a copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit 2), IBM identified for SCO numerous catagories of responsive documents that it believed SCO had yet to produce (at 3-5). SCO responded to IBM by letter late last night ( a copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit 3) concluding that it had indeed failed to produce numerous responssive documents, and committing to doing so at an unspecified time in the future (at 5-10).
Second, in response to the Court's Order, SCO abandons any claim that IBM misappropiated its trade secrets, concedes that SCO has no evidence that IBM improperly disclosed UNIX System V code, and acknowleges that SCO's contract case is grounded solely on the popisiton that IBM improperly disclosed portions of IBM's own AIX and Dynix products, which SCO claims to be derivitives of UNIX System V. [2] The primary problem with the Revised Response, however, is that: (1) SCO refuses to disclose from what lines of UNIX System V code thest alleged contributions are supposed to derive, which it must know to allege the contributions were improper, and (2) a number of the allegedly improper contributions are not disclosed witeh adequate particularity (e.g. SCO claims IBM improperly disclosed "MP" but does not specify the files or liones of code allegedly 'dumped" into Linux, or the files and lines of Linux in which they are supposedly found. [3] SCO also failes properly to identify and describe all of the materials in Linux to which it claims to have rights and whether, when, to whom, and under what circumstances and terms it ever distributed those materials.
Morover, there remains a significant disparity between the information in the Revised Response and SCO's public statements about its alleged evidence. Int he final analysis, SCO has indentified no more than appoximately 3,700 lines of code in 17 AIX or Dynix files that IBM is alleged improperly to have contiributed to Linux. (A list of the files we believe SCO has identified in its Revised Response is attached hereto as Exhibit 4.) Yet, speaking at harvard law School earlier this week, SCO's CEO, Darl mcBride, stated that:
"...[T]here is roughly a million lines of code that tie into contributions that IBM has made and that's subject to litigation that's going on. We have basically supplied that. in fact, that is going to be the subject of a hearing that comes up Friday..." (empahsis added.)
(a rough draft of this protion of the transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit 5). If the "million lines fo code" in fact exist, then SCO has not complied with the Court's December 12 ordere and shoule be required immediately to do so. If, as SCO hints (but does not say), none of
On my SuSE boxen, I take out the services that gentoo does not start...result now SuSE is the same...only less functional...like Gentoo...doh!
Fanboy's rant about optimisation settings, adults do their research & test only to find that going past default settings is counter productive...doh!
Q. When you stand back & look at it what is Gentoo? A. It's basically LFS + a package management system. Q. Does this make it unique? A. No. There are numerous other source based distro's that attempt to implement a package manager. Each has it's own twist on the same thing eg. Lunar, Onebase, ROCK, Sorcerer, SourceMage. I have tried them all. Q. Which do you recommend? A. I personally recommend SourceMage as being the best prospect in terms of development activity & user friendlyness & clear documentation.
I make no apology for questioning the claims of Gentoo. I have tried many distro's personally to test their claims.
Like I said - use what you want, just cut the fanboy hype.
One person creeps around a neighbourhood looking in windows, he's a sicko peeping tom!
Wealthy north american teenagers go around filming homeless people hurting themselves or tapping into other peoples cyber privacy to make themselves feel superior is culturally tolerable..?
Explain to me how this is'nt morally bankrupt arrogance.
let me let you in on a little secret about Bill and Melinda Gates so-called "Foundation." Gate's demi-trillionaire status is based on a nasty little monopoly-protecting trade treaty called "TRIPS" - the Trade-Related Intellectual Property Rights rules of the World Trade Organization. TRIPS gives Gates a hammerlock on computer operating systems worldwide, legally granting him the kind of monopoly the Robber Barons of yore could only dream of. But TRIPS, the rule which helps Gates rule, also bars African governments from buying AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis medicine at cheap market prices.
Example: in June 2000, at the urging of Big Pharma, Bill Clinton threatened trade sanctions against Argentina for that nation's daring to offer low-cost drugs to Southern Africa.
Gates knows darn well that "intellectual property rights" laws such as TRIPS - which keep him and Melinda richer than Saddam and the Mafia combined - are under attack by Nelson Mandela and front-line doctors trying to get cut-rate drugs to the 23 million Africans sick with the AIDS virus. Gate's brilliant and self-serving solution: he's spending an itsy-bitsy part of his monopoly profits (the $6 billion spent by Gates' foundation is less than 2% of his net worth) to buy some drugs for a fraction of the dying. The bully billionaire's "philanthropic" organization is currently working paw-in-claw with the big pharmaceutical companies in support of the blockade on cheap drug shipments.
Gates' game is given away by the fact that his Foundation has invested $200 million in the very drug companies stopping the shipment of low-cost AIDS drugs to Africa.
Gates says his plan is to reach one million people with medicine by the end of the decade. Another way to read it: he's locking in a trade system that will effectively block the delivery of medicine to over 20 million.
The computer magnate's scheme has a powerful ally. "The president could have been reading from a script prepared by Mr. Gates," enthuses the Times' cub reporter, referring to Mr. Bush's AIDS plan offered up this week to skeptical Africans. The US press does not understand why Africans don't jump for Bush's generous handout. None note that the money held out to the continent's desperate nations has strings attached or, more accurately, chains and manacles. The billions offered are mostly loans at full interest which may be used only to buy patent drugs from US companies at a price several times that available from other nations. What Africans want, an end to the devastating tyranny of TRIPS and other trade rules, is dismissed by the Liberator of Baghdad.
We are all serfs on Microsoft's and Big Pharma's 'intellectual property.' If Gates' fake philanthropy eviscerates the movement to free Africans from the tyranny of TRIPS, then Bill and Melinda's donations could have the effect of killing more Africans than then even their PR agents claim they have saved. And for our own Republic, we can only hope that when the bully-boy billionaire injects his next wad of loot into the Bush political campaign, he uses a condom.
I worked as a programmer myself & I was constantly amazed at how majority of code hackers will waste enormous amounts of time writing code to solve a problem that has already been solved.
This is one of the pifalls of development facing a vigilant manager.
Not bashing just stating some facts which is conveniently not mentioned.
Nice things ahve been said about BSD, but first before thinking os using it as a Desktop OS consider this : It has less device support than Linux. Think abot it!
Also you might want to consider that installing it via it's crude curses style installer gives you a box that boots to a bare bones command prompt - YOU then have to go about trying to get ALL the other stuff working.
Documentation is better than Linux but STILL leaves a lot OUT.
"Also, the cool thing is, it isn't a cool thing. You don't have Red Hat screaming, 4 month using *NIX wantabees asking stupid questions. Sure, I used Linux for 5 years but now unfortunately, with the rise and perceived ease of use, we now have a whole new group of zealots and half witts."
Ah I see, while Linux lacked a decent installer & had little documentation, you could feel superior using it.
Now that it does, you have to retreat to BSD to retain that cache of superiority?
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and a total sell out of our citizens.
All we can do is lobby the opposition parties to block it in the senate.
One of the undesireable side effects of the 9/11 atrocity was to give conservative governments world wide an excuse to enact ever more oppressive legislation and collude with big business.
We are steadily losing freedom.
...its about money & politics.
Report on SCO's Compliance With the Court's order
On December 12, 2003, the Court directed SCOto "respond fully and in
detail" to IBM's Interrogatory Nos. 1-9, and 12 and 13, and to
"produce all equested documents" in IBM's document requests by January
12, 2003.
On january 12, 2003, SCO served its Revised Supplemental Response to IBM's First
and Second Set of Interrogatories (the "Revised Response", attached
hereto as Exhibit 1). In the accompanying "Notice of Compiance With Court
order of December 12, 2003", which was filed with the Court, SCO
represented that it had "responded fully and in detail to Interrogatories
1-9, 12 and 13...based on the information in SCO's possession" and had
"produced all the non-privileged responsive documents requested by
IBM" with the exception of certain files that would be promptly produced.
Despite these representations, however, SCO in fact failed to comply with the
Court's order in numerous respects [1] the most important ow which are addressed
below.
First, contrary to its representations to the Court on January 12, 2004, SCO now
admits that it has in fact not produced numerous catagories of non=privleged
responsive docuemnts. In a letter dated January 30, 2004, (a copy of which is
attached hereto as Exhibit 2), IBM identified for SCO numerous catagories of
responsive documents that it believed SCO had yet to produce (at 3-5). SCO
responded to IBM by letter late last night ( a copy of which is attached hereto
as Exhibit 3) concluding that it had indeed failed to produce numerous
responssive documents, and committing to doing so at an unspecified time in the
future (at 5-10).
Second, in response to the Court's Order, SCO abandons any claim that IBM
misappropiated its trade secrets, concedes that SCO has no evidence that IBM
improperly disclosed UNIX System V code, and acknowleges that SCO's contract
case is grounded solely on the popisiton that IBM improperly disclosed portions
of IBM's own AIX and Dynix products, which SCO claims to be derivitives of UNIX
System V. [2] The primary problem with the Revised Response, however, is that:
(1) SCO refuses to disclose from what lines of UNIX System V code thest alleged
contributions are supposed to derive, which it must know to allege the
contributions were improper, and (2) a number of the allegedly improper
contributions are not disclosed witeh adequate particularity (e.g. SCO claims
IBM improperly disclosed "MP" but does not specify the files or liones
of code allegedly 'dumped" into Linux, or the files and lines of Linux in
which they are supposedly found. [3] SCO also failes properly to identify and
describe all of the materials in Linux to which it claims to have rights and
whether, when, to whom, and under what circumstances and terms it ever
distributed those materials.
Morover, there remains a significant disparity between the information in the
Revised Response and SCO's public statements about its alleged evidence. Int he
final analysis, SCO has indentified no more than appoximately 3,700 lines of
code in 17 AIX or Dynix files that IBM is alleged improperly to have
contiributed to Linux. (A list of the files we believe SCO has identified in
its Revised Response is attached hereto as Exhibit 4.) Yet, speaking at harvard
law School earlier this week, SCO's CEO, Darl mcBride, stated that:
"...[T]here is roughly a million lines of code that tie into contributions
that IBM has made and that's subject to litigation that's going on. We have
basically supplied that. in fact, that is going to be the subject of a hearing
that comes up Friday..." (empahsis added.)
(a rough draft of this protion of the transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit
5). If the "million lines fo code" in fact exist, then SCO has not
complied with the Court's December 12 ordere and shoule be required immediately
to do so. If, as SCO hints (but does not say), none of
Eugenia specialises in pro monopoly$oft censorship so don't hold your breathe...
"Advice: Read the HUNDREDS of posts on the gentoo forums about this."
Sorry , repeating claims does not make them valid.
Well said Scotch!
Just to add little real wourld colour here, I have a P4 3Ghz HT box using RDRAM and yes HT improves performance in mutlitaksing situations.
Got lot's of tasks happening? The machine continues to operate more smoothly than it otherwise did.
It makes no difference in single applications in fact there is a slight performance hit.
Cheers
On my SuSE boxen, I take out the services that gentoo does not start...result now SuSE is the same...only less functional...like Gentoo...doh!
Fanboy's rant about optimisation settings, adults do their research & test only to find that going past default settings is counter productive...doh!
Q. When you stand back & look at it what is Gentoo?
A. It's basically LFS + a package management system.
Q. Does this make it unique?
A. No. There are numerous other source based distro's that attempt to implement a package manager. Each has it's own twist on the same thing eg. Lunar, Onebase, ROCK, Sorcerer, SourceMage. I have tried them all.
Q. Which do you recommend?
A. I personally recommend SourceMage as being the best prospect in terms of development activity & user friendlyness & clear documentation.
I make no apology for questioning the claims of Gentoo. I have tried many distro's personally to test their claims.
Like I said - use what you want, just cut the fanboy hype.
After the debacle 9.2, it was the last straw for many folks.
They HAD to do something about their appalling QA or lack thereof.
Hope they survive & prosper, some great work in there.
I am soooooo sick of people hyping this distro.
I spent weeks of my life getting it working on a P4 just to test out the claims.
Result?
No appreciable difference to any other distro with simillar configuration and a LOT more work.
Use what you want - just please stop the teenage exageration.
Eugenia censors opinions to suit her amateurish pro monopoly$oft agenda.
I am soooooo sick of people hyping this distro.
I spent weeks of my life getting it working on a P4 just to test out the claims.
Result?
No appreciable difference to any other distro with simillar configuration and a LOT more work.
Use what you want just please stop the teenage exageration.
_No_one_ believes propaganda paid for monopoly$oft.
If _you_ were are _such_ a professional who is _so_ confident of your conclusions why are you so desperate to push them here?
Because _YOU_ are a fanboy watching your precious monopoly$soft retreat in the face of people power.
The most hated & unjust dictatorships have fallen when people reject propaganda and think fpr themselves.
One person creeps around a neighbourhood looking in windows, he's a sicko peeping tom!
Wealthy north american teenagers go around filming homeless people hurting themselves or tapping into other peoples cyber privacy to make themselves feel superior is culturally tolerable..?
Explain to me how this is'nt morally bankrupt arrogance.
You cannot justify this on technical grounds.
let me let you in on a little secret about Bill and Melinda Gates so-called "Foundation." Gate's demi-trillionaire status is based on a nasty little monopoly-protecting trade treaty called "TRIPS" - the Trade-Related Intellectual Property Rights rules of the World Trade Organization. TRIPS gives Gates a hammerlock on computer operating systems worldwide, legally granting him the kind of monopoly the Robber Barons of yore could only dream of. But TRIPS, the rule which helps Gates rule, also bars African governments from buying AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis medicine at cheap market prices.
Example: in June 2000, at the urging of Big Pharma, Bill Clinton threatened trade sanctions against Argentina for that nation's daring to offer low-cost drugs to Southern Africa.
Gates knows darn well that "intellectual property rights" laws such as TRIPS - which keep him and Melinda richer than Saddam and the Mafia combined - are under attack by Nelson Mandela and front-line doctors trying to get cut-rate drugs to the 23 million Africans sick with the AIDS virus. Gate's brilliant and self-serving solution: he's spending an itsy-bitsy part of his monopoly profits (the $6 billion spent by Gates' foundation is less than 2% of his net worth) to buy some drugs for a fraction of the dying. The bully billionaire's "philanthropic" organization is currently working paw-in-claw with the big pharmaceutical companies in support of the blockade on cheap drug shipments.
Gates' game is given away by the fact that his Foundation has invested $200 million in the very drug companies stopping the shipment of low-cost AIDS drugs to Africa.
Gates says his plan is to reach one million people with medicine by the end of the decade. Another way to read it: he's locking in a trade system that will effectively block the delivery of medicine to over 20 million.
The computer magnate's scheme has a powerful ally. "The president could have been reading from a script prepared by Mr. Gates," enthuses the Times' cub reporter, referring to Mr. Bush's AIDS plan offered up this week to skeptical Africans. The US press does not understand why Africans don't jump for Bush's generous handout. None note that the money held out to the continent's desperate nations has strings attached or, more accurately, chains and manacles. The billions offered are mostly loans at full interest which may be used only to buy patent drugs from US companies at a price several times that available from other nations. What Africans want, an end to the devastating tyranny of TRIPS and other trade rules, is dismissed by the Liberator of Baghdad.
We are all serfs on Microsoft's and Big Pharma's 'intellectual property.' If Gates' fake philanthropy eviscerates the movement to free Africans from the tyranny of TRIPS, then Bill and Melinda's donations could have the effect of killing more Africans than then even their PR agents claim they have saved. And for our own Republic, we can only hope that when the bully-boy billionaire injects his next wad of loot into the Bush political campaign, he uses a condom.
"SCO _have_ complied for the most part with the court order to produce specifics of their case, they simply haven't completed a few pieces"
They either did or they did'nt.
Clearly they did not.
Why are you attempting to white wash this?
I worked as a programmer myself & I was constantly amazed at how majority of code hackers will waste enormous amounts of time writing code to solve a problem that has already been solved.
This is one of the pifalls of development facing a vigilant manager.
" and don't assume SCO doesn't have something they feel is damning. "
Too late, the code they did show was comprehensively & thoroughly debunked.
When ordered by a court to produce something they did'nt.
Assuming they still have something is wishfull thinking.
" So, ok, the SCO case might be beginning to crumble. "
You *wish*.
Do your research at groklaw and get the facts.
This scam is just about done.
Not bashing just stating some facts which is conveniently not mentioned.
Nice things ahve been said about BSD, but first before thinking os using it as a Desktop OS consider this : It has less device support than Linux. Think abot it!
Also you might want to consider that installing it via it's crude curses style installer gives you a box that boots to a bare bones command prompt - YOU then have to go about trying to get ALL the other stuff working.
Documentation is better than Linux but STILL leaves a lot OUT.
Be prepared to spend significant time 'learning'.
"Also, the cool thing is, it isn't a cool thing. You don't have Red Hat screaming, 4 month using *NIX wantabees asking stupid questions. Sure, I used Linux for 5 years but now unfortunately, with the rise and perceived ease of use, we now have a whole new group of zealots and half witts."
Ah I see, while Linux lacked a decent installer & had little documentation, you could feel superior using it.
Now that it does, you have to retreat to BSD to retain that cache of superiority?
Sounds like a great reason to avoid BSD.
Trust me no one cares.
Get a life.
SCO's claims have all been *thoroughly* researched & debunked at groklaw. In fact IBM are even citing theit research.
SCO are mouting a FUD campaign that benefits their share price tempoarily.
Meanwhile the SCO boss's are quietly selling stock.
This is called pump & dump.
It may eventually expose them to procesution for fraud by your SEC.
I went through this in OZ.
I kept going until I found an excellent ISP.