Reading the arguments it looks more like people are arguing between right and wrong and good and bad.
I look at morality as good or bad. Right and wrong all depends on the person looking at the problem and or history. good and bad usually depends on a religious/moral belief. Things can be right and morally bad or right and morally good or wrong and either of the previous. Killing is not always wrong but it is always morally bad in my opinion. So to me that doesn't mean that you never kill it means that it is always a bad thing and should never be taken lightly. Unfortunately, I believe at times people forget this. If a situation arises where you have right to kill it does not justify always doing so.
I very very very rarely get spam and when I do it is quite easy to shutoff. Boy that is asking for it. For every person or company I meet I give them a unique email address. This is actually quite easy to do if you own your own domain. This helps with 2 things.
1. If a friend gets a virus that gets my address and uses it to start sending spam, I just delete that address and give them a new one.
2. If I gave a company I do business with an address and I start getting spam I just delete the address. If they say they don't sell my information then I guess I could sue them as well, since the only way someone could have gotten that address is from them.
I also never give my email address out in public where I can avoid it. I know this is not possible for some public speaking peeps, but then you use a unique address for public and one for private. Then you just have to do spam filtering on 1 address. For any sites that require an email that I don't trust I just use Mailinator.
EEEK!! Please excuse all the typos and mispellings. It is early in the morning here and my hands are doing the thinking not the mind.
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I think the one point you bring up si very important. Most people out there have no wish to have broadband. They only use the internet to check email or IM and maybe occassionally use the internet to looks up some piece of information occassionally. There entire usage is probably 2-5 minutes per month. I myself sometimes forget this because I live in the northeast where technology is a toy, but the fact of the matter is almost everyone in the US has access to the internet by some means, but actually most of us don't use it that much. In fact I bet if we look a little closer at utilization statistics we would find that most of the people that have broadband very rarely use there internet connection and when they do there means would be satisfied by a dial-up connection.
How about DAOC rvr style combat? Does it exist in a similiar format where you defend areas/keeps and take areas/keeps? I quickly get tired of killing mob and have never been interested in doing quests, so this is very important to me. I prefer group combat against other groups with a bit of defense and taking thrown in.
I only remember once my battery ever running out and that was do to the fact that I was negligant in charging it within a weeks time. Heck if I am only using the phone a couple times a day w/o charging, it will still last me 7-10 days. I have some friends houses who's POTS line is not directory charged. They have to keep a battery in there basement to charge the line. This of course is not reliably checked by the phone company and of course every few years during an outage the phone line doesn't work. So what I am saying is make sure you battery is charged or have an emergency battery on hand for your phone. And usually when my power goes out my phone goes out because the phone and power run across the same lines in my area. The intention of all of this is to provide the same level of service, the fiber is going to go back to the colo...so the home run failure rate should be actually less. The network behind it is the same network that runs the voice now, so it is just as reliable. The only issue is power. So maybe this means we are responsible for providing our own power now...or maybe they will give us all batteries like they do with people where they don't supply power across the line, although I doubt it. And as for higher quality voice signal, I could care less, as long as it isn't breaking up, which these days I experience very little, then I could care less, all I need to do is understand the person. Now I am a bit bias because I am not a big phone person to begin with. When you talk on the phone I believe you give the information intended and get off. No phone call should last more than 10 minutes. Even in business....wait especially in business.
The trend is to move away from copper. People use cell phones more and more as there primary phone. If the power goes out you still have a phone. The pots lines are no longer really needed. And if it comes to 911 most phones have gps in them and since I believe it is mandated that all have them by the next year or two, I believe the plan is when you dial 911 they know instantly where you are from your gps coord.
As far as I see it good. If a business model with out selling ads makes them go broke than they need to change the business model. Heck I pay almost $150 now to the cable companies...I would gladly pay $200 to avoid commercials.... If this means that they can't put on as many shows...good...most are garbage anyway. Maybe they would be more careful about what they put on the air instead of just funding everything and anything. If I have to go back to watching commercials...then I think it would be the end of TV for me.
1. Where there is money to be made, noone cares about how long you will be in business. Business these days isn't about survivability it is about how much money I can make now.
2. Non-Telco VOIP companies will probably not survive long-term...well at least not in the US. Telco VoIP companies will probably be running the ISP backbones in the next few decades. They will probably also decide what can and can't be sent across the link and right to cancel service if they believe you are using a non standard protocol or communication method. Would hate to see the day...but have the feeling it is coming. So peer-to-peer will be come harder and harder. Telco's aren't about allowing you to have free service. The only hope is that we can make it more profitable for them to allow it vs. not allow it.
3. We currently pay for wiretapping capabilities so I am a little confused about why people seem so up in arms about providing it for VoIP. If you don't like paying for it why aren't you complaining about how the phone system works now. It is currently mandatory for all US Telco's and most non-US Telco's to provide wiretapping service. The only reason it is showing up in the bill now as a seperate cost is because it wasn't originally put into the cost structure.
4. If you think encryption makes you safe, that is just silly. It just makes it harder. No encryption algorithm is safe. All can be broken relatively fast or soon will be able to be, remember the people breaking these alg. have unlimited budgets and resources. Unfortunately except for the very security conscious or paranoid person who constantly keeps up to date with the most secure encryption alg. most phones will not be secure even if they implemented a encryption mechanism. Business models currently don't support upgrading user device to be the most current on a consistant basis. Not to mention user incompatibility issues.
4. End all, either change the laws by voting and letting your voice be heard or stop complaining. Although even if the laws change don't be foolish enough to believe that your lines will still not b e tapped or that you won't somehow pay for it.
I'm amazed.
Unless a programmer is writing a new algorithm or method, do you think that user is writing unique code. If he has done something before ie: open a socket, resolve hostnames, open a file read data parse it, sort a list, use a link list. Do you really think he is going to re-invent the way he
knows how to do it. Whether he writes it from his head or copies from his personal lib, it will be the same code. It's how all these bits and pieces are put together that make the overall program and functionality unique not the snippits, unless truely doing a unique and revolutionary thing.
In fact I would venture that after a person had more than 5 or 6 jobs by your rules a coder would no longer be able to work because he would start running out of ways to reinvent the wheel.
Although there is no perfect solution I have found that STUN works quite well. It suffers most from the fact that there doesn't seem to be a standard for NAT implementation that is used by the vendors. I have used Vovida's free STUN Server and have only had some issues with LinkSys products. Unfortunately it is required to run on a public address. Vovida provides 2 public STUN Servers for people to use:
The IP address of the STUN servers are:
128.107.250.38
128.107.250.39
I have not tried these and they may have changed. Maybe someone can give them a try and report back how well they work.
Yes, I agree they have not broken any of the provisions stated above, but they have stated that they believe that the license is invalid. If you believe a license is invalid you cannot agree to its terms. If you do not agree to the terms of the GPL you cannot distribute.
absolutely correct. but using the general term for all sys5,bsd,mach,etc kernel bases as unix OS's. Is what I meant. My point was that he was acting like it was still the old MacOS 9.x and before.
I find it more disturbing that he is referring Linux and other Unix operating systems as being seperate from MacOS. I hope he realizes that the current MacOS is a Unix OS and that although it has some interfaces to help the user configure stuff that there are other Unix OS's that provide similiar things.
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Reading the arguments it looks more like people are arguing between right and wrong and good and bad. I look at morality as good or bad. Right and wrong all depends on the person looking at the problem and or history. good and bad usually depends on a religious/moral belief. Things can be right and morally bad or right and morally good or wrong and either of the previous. Killing is not always wrong but it is always morally bad in my opinion. So to me that doesn't mean that you never kill it means that it is always a bad thing and should never be taken lightly. Unfortunately, I believe at times people forget this. If a situation arises where you have right to kill it does not justify always doing so.
I very very very rarely get spam and when I do it is quite easy to shutoff. Boy that is asking for it. For every person or company I meet I give them a unique email address. This is actually quite easy to do if you own your own domain. This helps with 2 things. 1. If a friend gets a virus that gets my address and uses it to start sending spam, I just delete that address and give them a new one. 2. If I gave a company I do business with an address and I start getting spam I just delete the address. If they say they don't sell my information then I guess I could sue them as well, since the only way someone could have gotten that address is from them. I also never give my email address out in public where I can avoid it. I know this is not possible for some public speaking peeps, but then you use a unique address for public and one for private. Then you just have to do spam filtering on 1 address. For any sites that require an email that I don't trust I just use Mailinator.
EEEK!! Please excuse all the typos and mispellings. It is early in the morning here and my hands are doing the thinking not the mind. si=is there=their
I think the one point you bring up si very important. Most people out there have no wish to have broadband. They only use the internet to check email or IM and maybe occassionally use the internet to looks up some piece of information occassionally. There entire usage is probably 2-5 minutes per month. I myself sometimes forget this because I live in the northeast where technology is a toy, but the fact of the matter is almost everyone in the US has access to the internet by some means, but actually most of us don't use it that much. In fact I bet if we look a little closer at utilization statistics we would find that most of the people that have broadband very rarely use there internet connection and when they do there means would be satisfied by a dial-up connection.
How about DAOC rvr style combat? Does it exist in a similiar format where you defend areas/keeps and take areas/keeps? I quickly get tired of killing mob and have never been interested in doing quests, so this is very important to me. I prefer group combat against other groups with a bit of defense and taking thrown in.
I only remember once my battery ever running out and that was do to the fact that I was negligant in charging it within a weeks time. Heck if I am only using the phone a couple times a day w/o charging, it will still last me 7-10 days. I have some friends houses who's POTS line is not directory charged. They have to keep a battery in there basement to charge the line. This of course is not reliably checked by the phone company and of course every few years during an outage the phone line doesn't work. So what I am saying is make sure you battery is charged or have an emergency battery on hand for your phone. And usually when my power goes out my phone goes out because the phone and power run across the same lines in my area. The intention of all of this is to provide the same level of service, the fiber is going to go back to the colo...so the home run failure rate should be actually less. The network behind it is the same network that runs the voice now, so it is just as reliable. The only issue is power. So maybe this means we are responsible for providing our own power now...or maybe they will give us all batteries like they do with people where they don't supply power across the line, although I doubt it. And as for higher quality voice signal, I could care less, as long as it isn't breaking up, which these days I experience very little, then I could care less, all I need to do is understand the person. Now I am a bit bias because I am not a big phone person to begin with. When you talk on the phone I believe you give the information intended and get off. No phone call should last more than 10 minutes. Even in business....wait especially in business.
The trend is to move away from copper. People use cell phones more and more as there primary phone. If the power goes out you still have a phone. The pots lines are no longer really needed. And if it comes to 911 most phones have gps in them and since I believe it is mandated that all have them by the next year or two, I believe the plan is when you dial 911 they know instantly where you are from your gps coord.
As far as I see it good. If a business model with out selling ads makes them go broke than they need to change the business model. Heck I pay almost $150 now to the cable companies...I would gladly pay $200 to avoid commercials.... If this means that they can't put on as many shows...good...most are garbage anyway. Maybe they would be more careful about what they put on the air instead of just funding everything and anything. If I have to go back to watching commercials...then I think it would be the end of TV for me.
1. Where there is money to be made, noone cares about how long you will be in business. Business these days isn't about survivability it is about how much money I can make now. 2. Non-Telco VOIP companies will probably not survive long-term...well at least not in the US. Telco VoIP companies will probably be running the ISP backbones in the next few decades. They will probably also decide what can and can't be sent across the link and right to cancel service if they believe you are using a non standard protocol or communication method. Would hate to see the day...but have the feeling it is coming. So peer-to-peer will be come harder and harder. Telco's aren't about allowing you to have free service. The only hope is that we can make it more profitable for them to allow it vs. not allow it. 3. We currently pay for wiretapping capabilities so I am a little confused about why people seem so up in arms about providing it for VoIP. If you don't like paying for it why aren't you complaining about how the phone system works now. It is currently mandatory for all US Telco's and most non-US Telco's to provide wiretapping service. The only reason it is showing up in the bill now as a seperate cost is because it wasn't originally put into the cost structure. 4. If you think encryption makes you safe, that is just silly. It just makes it harder. No encryption algorithm is safe. All can be broken relatively fast or soon will be able to be, remember the people breaking these alg. have unlimited budgets and resources. Unfortunately except for the very security conscious or paranoid person who constantly keeps up to date with the most secure encryption alg. most phones will not be secure even if they implemented a encryption mechanism. Business models currently don't support upgrading user device to be the most current on a consistant basis. Not to mention user incompatibility issues. 4. End all, either change the laws by voting and letting your voice be heard or stop complaining. Although even if the laws change don't be foolish enough to believe that your lines will still not b e tapped or that you won't somehow pay for it.
I'm amazed. Unless a programmer is writing a new algorithm or method, do you think that user is writing unique code. If he has done something before ie: open a socket, resolve hostnames, open a file read data parse it, sort a list, use a link list. Do you really think he is going to re-invent the way he knows how to do it. Whether he writes it from his head or copies from his personal lib, it will be the same code. It's how all these bits and pieces are put together that make the overall program and functionality unique not the snippits, unless truely doing a unique and revolutionary thing. In fact I would venture that after a person had more than 5 or 6 jobs by your rules a coder would no longer be able to work because he would start running out of ways to reinvent the wheel.
Although there is no perfect solution I have found that STUN works quite well. It suffers most from the fact that there doesn't seem to be a standard for NAT implementation that is used by the vendors. I have used Vovida's free STUN Server and have only had some issues with LinkSys products. Unfortunately it is required to run on a public address. Vovida provides 2 public STUN Servers for people to use: The IP address of the STUN servers are: 128.107.250.38 128.107.250.39 I have not tried these and they may have changed. Maybe someone can give them a try and report back how well they work.
uhh mispoke yeah what he said...it falls back to copyright.
Yes, I agree they have not broken any of the provisions stated above, but they have stated that they believe that the license is invalid. If you believe a license is invalid you cannot agree to its terms. If you do not agree to the terms of the GPL you cannot distribute.
absolutely correct. but using the general term for all sys5,bsd,mach,etc kernel bases as unix OS's. Is what I meant. My point was that he was acting like it was still the old MacOS 9.x and before.
I find it more disturbing that he is referring Linux and other Unix operating systems as being seperate from MacOS. I hope he realizes that the current MacOS is a Unix OS and that although it has some interfaces to help the user configure stuff that there are other Unix OS's that provide similiar things.