the nice thing about science is that it is a sprawling, diverse subject you can do Nobel Prize class science without knowing more then basic algebra And, there are fields where to do Nobel Prize Class Science you need a lot of math; as one eminent gravity researcher said, if I wanted to work on string theory, i would first have to read a 1,000 page book on math...
However, as a matter of logic, since it is possible to do great science without math, the proposition that math is required is therefore FALSE
At the star supermarket on austin street in Newton, MA, there is a sign - enter our Earth Day contest and win a trip for two to costa rica Is there anything more emblamatic of anti-environmentalism then flying to another country to help destroy the jungle iwth your tourism ?
A few months ago at star maker, there were for sale bundles of firewood, wrapped in plastic, from Lithuania (!) advertised as "green" so you have you open pit or woodstove, in-efficient combustion, wood that was transported across the ocean....
but nothing can beat the slimyness of Poland Springs, a division of Nestle the people who kill babies with formula: the bottles say new green cap - it is smaller and uses less plastic !! (alhtough i suppose transporting water from Fiji or Iceland, and selling it in plastic bottles is really the ultimate environmental insult)
are you aware that I , as a boston home owner, am being forced to subsidze the project, as the super high cost electricity it makes is not viable unless the gov't forces me to buy it ?
I suppose if you owned a house or motel or resturant with a nice view of the ocean, you would consider regulatory reivew so much red tape ? A lot of fishermen and boaters use that area - alot; i don't think it is unreasonable to have a public hearing or two on safety
You may not know this, but I, a homeowner in the boston area (newton to be exact) will pay higher electric rates cause of shady deals blessed by state politicians; why should i be forced to pay for this ?? why wasnt' there more red tape so i could object
one mans red tape is another womans reasoanble review
Truly unbelievable story about the total collapse of city gov't for the poor.
Yes, in the golden island of Manhattan, where the wealthy roam, Mayor Bloomberg has brought a sanitized, bowdlerized version of NYC that people seem to like. (I mean anyone in NYC who would eat at chain resturant like macdonalds is scum)
in the 1990s , I had a 70ish year old professor very sad that heathkit was no longer: how were the future generations of engineers going to get their start in life (this guy was an internatinally known professor)
well, FOSS is the answer to his question FOSS doesn't need to actually produce any useful programs (although it isn't bad if it does) if FOSS serves to introduce young kids to STEM
something to fix all those blogs with light grey text on a white background something to filter urls out of google searchs, eg you search for something, and when you get back the results, you right click on one; you get a window and select "delete url from results" [where url can be speficic or general, eg delete ask.com*] thenext time you search google, all results from that url are removed before you see them , eg you never see ask.com results
well, once upon a time, this arrogant guy, RMS, did a lot of work that didn't pay off..so another guy LT, created a nice OS called linux.
Dad, how do you know RMS is arrogant ?
look at it is gnu/linux, not linux: hundreds of words where a single paragraph, well written, would have done the job nicely (and, rms , despite being the uber uber programmer, doesn't seem to realize that people are lazy and don't like to type, and that / characters are hard to index, and therefore no one ever was gonna type gnu/linux when the they could type linux, not to mention, people don't like products that are hard to pronounce
But dad, why doesn't anyone use linux?
Son, that is the fascinating thing: you see, everyone thought there was a lot of money in linux, so all the companies rushed out not very good non compatible versions. meanwhile, the hackers, who don't understand basic human psychology (choice is not good) made hundreds of non compatible forks; in the end, no one system had enough critical mass: not everyone can be a leader; it takes a lot of followers to make something big and complex.
quote
However, even as somebody who is very computer literate, it took about an hour to get accustomed to the dual-UI setup and figure out the most common mouse/touchpad gestures.
unquote
why do you think having pre existing habits helps you ?
in the old days, when each new os release would be accompanied by a large increase in new users, it didn't matter if old users had to unlearn stuff - it was the new users that matterd
maybe that will change now that pc sales are leveling off
if 2000 or xp or 7 is working for me, who are you to say otherwise ?
and, in teh real world, don't most people upgrade when their hardware dies, or when their job requires it ?
i only upgrade when my hardware dies, altho this hasn't worked well for me - in my family, 3 computers died when Vista came out...sigh
It costs 100,000 dollars - you could buy 5 brand new camrys for that
it gets about 200 miles of range in cold weather
it requires an 30 -60 minutes to charge
are you really going to tell me that it is sane to wait 30 minutes to charge your car ?
do you have any idea how long 30 minutes is when you are late to pickup your kids, or late for an appointment ?
I could go on, but why bother; why doesn't the slashdot community devote itself to something more important, like why 15,000 dollar Chanel Handbags are or are not appropriate for the opera...
I don't think this is true
In any event, since you (and other people who say the same thing) don't give examples, hard to evaluate yur claim
in my work on over 100 articles, ahve seen very few , if any, cases where new people were really driven away - all of my rejected edits, each a child I felt sorrowful about, probably deserved, in the cold light of day, to be rejected.
sure you are not just sour grapes ?
or, one of the many wierd people who think that the earth is flat, or intelligent design is sicence, or whatever ?
most of the posts reflect a typical slashdot arrogance - we know computers, therefore the way we do things is better.
I'm not gonna argue this fight, which is older and more bitter then vi/emacs, or even the unix haters handbook, but I will observe, for those interested in reality:
Most of the people who use wiki are not computer people
for most of these people, an MS word style editor will be easier to use , esp if it has good citation/ref features builtin, then current or any sort of HTML
to put it another way, the 100million potential new wiki users would have to spend 10 hours each to get *comfortable* with html, when they already know word.
so thats roughly 10^9 wasted hours.
I speculate that the wikimedia team can make a good editor in 10^9 man hours - a lot less.
case closed
this is like slashdotters saying that the avg person should use linux because they can..configure the sector size on the hard drive. hard to argue with someone like that.
This reminds me of a story from www.thedailywtf.com
New hire is shown the server room: redundant hardened servers, redundant RAID drives, redundant airconditioners, power supplies, phone lines to call people...
Comes in a few weeks later, power went out, no airconditioning, servers are toast.
why no phone call to the large number of people supposed ot get called ?
no redundant power on the phones.......
I mean, what kind of a moron has backup diesel in the BASEMENT !!!! ON AN ISLAND !!!
Ok, no one thinks of everything.
acid test, do they move the generators to high ground.....
before we can tell all those people along the jersey and CT shores, ya wanna live on the ocean, get your own darn flood insurance, we the taxpayers are tired of picking up the tab so you can have a great view ?
I'm reminded of the apocryphal IT support company that had a little test for new hires"
the candidate was left in the waiting room with the "clueless" secretary, who would say, hey - are you here for the IT support posistion ? my printer isn't working.
IF after many minutes of config type tests, you recommended partioning the drive and downloading linux, you failed
If you crawled under the desk and figured out that the printer wasn't plugged into the wall, you passed
as the engineers say, KISS
do what is best for your business
starting a business is so much harder then you think, and the odds are so stacked against you, that anything you do that isn't 100% focused on getting the biz up and running will kill you.
decide what software you need; do not waste 1 second on open source if it ain't right
that brings out the 12 year old popular scientist kid lurking in every geek ?
This is like so far from practical clincial use.
Its fun to speculate, but we should be clear, this is *specualtion* and it is many years, and tens, if not hundreds of millions to get an FDA approved device.
PS: I may not be able to spell, but I have a PhD in molecular biology, and understand stuff like highly conserved initiation factors with hyper modified histidine (hypusine) residues, the role of shine dalgarno....
I have a PhD in molecular biology, and have worked on articles about DNA; in some very, very obscure techniques used to study DNA, I was, for a brief period, a world authority.
I no longer contribute to wiki for two reasons:
1) I have to keep correcting, and recorrecting, and re re re correcting stuff; after a while, it gets tiresome to ahve to deal with people who think that RAM is part of the keyboard...
2) The copyleft allows *for profit* webpages to use my work. I find this intolerable; my hard work is used to make some loathsome 1%er rich? I don't mind if non profits do it, but I will be Dam*** if i contribute to something that can be ripped off by for profits.
I would also add that the huge amount of work needed to write in markup as opposed to wysiwyg is also a deterrent; perhaps th next gen wiki will fix this and the copy left part
NO, he doesn't.
He says, anything I Ron Paul agree with is constitutional, and anything I don't is not...
I feel really sad that people are taken in by this guy
eg, if Texas wants to enact a law saying gays and blacks have to sit at the back of the bus, thats OK with R Paul
(although, come to think of it, that is Obama's posistion to; I wonder how many liberals praising Obama for being for gay marriage by state would praise obama if he saidn miscegenation laws should be left up to the states.)
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the nice thing about science is that it is a sprawling, diverse subject
you can do Nobel Prize class science without knowing more then basic algebra
And, there are fields where to do Nobel Prize Class Science you need a lot of math; as one eminent gravity researcher said, if I wanted to work on string theory, i would first have to read a 1,000 page book on math...
However, as a matter of logic, since it is possible to do great science without math, the proposition that math is required is therefore FALSE
At the star supermarket on austin street in Newton, MA, there is a sign - enter our Earth Day contest and win a trip for two to costa rica
Is there anything more emblamatic of anti-environmentalism then flying to another country to help destroy the jungle iwth your tourism ?
A few months ago at star maker, there were for sale bundles of firewood, wrapped in plastic, from Lithuania (!) advertised as "green"
so you have you open pit or woodstove, in-efficient combustion, wood that was transported across the ocean....
but nothing can beat the slimyness of Poland Springs, a division of Nestle the people who kill babies with formula: the bottles say new green cap - it is smaller and uses less plastic !!
(alhtough i suppose transporting water from Fiji or Iceland, and selling it in plastic bottles is really the ultimate environmental insult)
are you aware that I , as a boston home owner, am being forced to subsidze the project, as the super high cost electricity it makes is not viable unless the gov't forces me to buy it ?
I suppose if you owned a house or motel or resturant with a nice view of the ocean, you would consider regulatory reivew so much red tape ?
A lot of fishermen and boaters use that area - alot; i don't think it is unreasonable to have a public hearing or two on safety
You may not know this, but I, a homeowner in the boston area (newton to be exact) will pay higher electric rates cause of shady deals blessed by state politicians; why should i be forced to pay for this ??
why wasnt' there more red tape so i could object
one mans red tape is another womans reasoanble review
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/nyregion/justice-denied-bronx-court-system-mired-in-delays.html?hp&_r=0
Truly unbelievable story about the total collapse of city gov't for the poor.
Yes, in the golden island of Manhattan, where the wealthy roam, Mayor Bloomberg has brought a sanitized, bowdlerized version of NYC that people seem to like.
(I mean anyone in NYC who would eat at chain resturant like macdonalds is scum)
The price , tho, has been high
if you had, you would see this is , sadly, all to typical of mainstream journalism - totally un warranted sensationalizim of a modest, very modest, scientific finding.
The idea that the paper in geology
http://www.unc.edu/~jries/Ries_et_al_09_Geology_Mixed_Responses_to_Ocean_Acidification_full.pdf
has anyting to do with supersized blue crabs is total BS
really sad: don't any of you people bother to read ???
don't any of you people bother to check sources >??????
oh, wait, this is slashdot
in the 1990s , I had a 70ish year old professor very sad that heathkit was no longer: how were the future generations of engineers going to get their start in life (this guy was an internatinally known professor)
well, FOSS is the answer to his question
FOSS doesn't need to actually produce any useful programs (although it isn't bad if it does)
if
FOSS serves to introduce young kids to STEM
don't read tufte
read naomi robbins instead
something to fix all those blogs with light grey text on a white background
something to filter urls out of google searchs, eg you search for something, and when you get back the results, you right click on one; you get a window and select "delete url from results" [where url can be speficic or general, eg delete ask.com*]
thenext time you search google, all results from that url are removed before you see them , eg you never see ask.com results
well, once upon a time, this arrogant guy, RMS, did a lot of work that didn't pay off..so another guy LT, created a nice OS called linux. Dad, how do you know RMS is arrogant ? look at it is gnu/linux, not linux: hundreds of words where a single paragraph, well written, would have done the job nicely (and, rms , despite being the uber uber programmer, doesn't seem to realize that people are lazy and don't like to type, and that / characters are hard to index, and therefore no one ever was gonna type gnu/linux when the they could type linux, not to mention, people don't like products that are hard to pronounce But dad, why doesn't anyone use linux? Son, that is the fascinating thing: you see, everyone thought there was a lot of money in linux, so all the companies rushed out not very good non compatible versions. meanwhile, the hackers, who don't understand basic human psychology (choice is not good) made hundreds of non compatible forks; in the end, no one system had enough critical mass: not everyone can be a leader; it takes a lot of followers to make something big and complex.
quote However, even as somebody who is very computer literate, it took about an hour to get accustomed to the dual-UI setup and figure out the most common mouse/touchpad gestures. unquote why do you think having pre existing habits helps you ? in the old days, when each new os release would be accompanied by a large increase in new users, it didn't matter if old users had to unlearn stuff - it was the new users that matterd maybe that will change now that pc sales are leveling off
if 2000 or xp or 7 is working for me, who are you to say otherwise ? and, in teh real world, don't most people upgrade when their hardware dies, or when their job requires it ? i only upgrade when my hardware dies, altho this hasn't worked well for me - in my family, 3 computers died when Vista came out...sigh
because moron, if you are honest, you don't think about stuff like that duh uh !!
It costs 100,000 dollars - you could buy 5 brand new camrys for that it gets about 200 miles of range in cold weather it requires an 30 -60 minutes to charge are you really going to tell me that it is sane to wait 30 minutes to charge your car ? do you have any idea how long 30 minutes is when you are late to pickup your kids, or late for an appointment ? I could go on, but why bother; why doesn't the slashdot community devote itself to something more important, like why 15,000 dollar Chanel Handbags are or are not appropriate for the opera...
to move to another country and change your name ? Or at least just change your name , and manufacture an excuse that lets you get a new social sec number ? http://askville.amazon.com/social-security-number/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=2358575
I don't think this is true In any event, since you (and other people who say the same thing) don't give examples, hard to evaluate yur claim in my work on over 100 articles, ahve seen very few , if any, cases where new people were really driven away - all of my rejected edits, each a child I felt sorrowful about, probably deserved, in the cold light of day, to be rejected. sure you are not just sour grapes ? or, one of the many wierd people who think that the earth is flat, or intelligent design is sicence, or whatever ?
most of the posts reflect a typical slashdot arrogance - we know computers, therefore the way we do things is better. I'm not gonna argue this fight, which is older and more bitter then vi/emacs, or even the unix haters handbook, but I will observe, for those interested in reality: Most of the people who use wiki are not computer people for most of these people, an MS word style editor will be easier to use , esp if it has good citation/ref features builtin, then current or any sort of HTML to put it another way, the 100million potential new wiki users would have to spend 10 hours each to get *comfortable* with html, when they already know word. so thats roughly 10^9 wasted hours. I speculate that the wikimedia team can make a good editor in 10^9 man hours - a lot less. case closed this is like slashdotters saying that the avg person should use linux because they can..configure the sector size on the hard drive. hard to argue with someone like that.
This reminds me of a story from www.thedailywtf.com New hire is shown the server room: redundant hardened servers, redundant RAID drives, redundant airconditioners, power supplies, phone lines to call people... Comes in a few weeks later, power went out, no airconditioning, servers are toast. why no phone call to the large number of people supposed ot get called ? no redundant power on the phones....... I mean, what kind of a moron has backup diesel in the BASEMENT !!!! ON AN ISLAND !!! Ok, no one thinks of everything. acid test, do they move the generators to high ground.....
before we can tell all those people along the jersey and CT shores, ya wanna live on the ocean, get your own darn flood insurance, we the taxpayers are tired of picking up the tab so you can have a great view ?
I'm reminded of the apocryphal IT support company that had a little test for new hires" the candidate was left in the waiting room with the "clueless" secretary, who would say, hey - are you here for the IT support posistion ? my printer isn't working. IF after many minutes of config type tests, you recommended partioning the drive and downloading linux, you failed If you crawled under the desk and figured out that the printer wasn't plugged into the wall, you passed as the engineers say, KISS
do what is best for your business starting a business is so much harder then you think, and the odds are so stacked against you, that anything you do that isn't 100% focused on getting the biz up and running will kill you. decide what software you need; do not waste 1 second on open source if it ain't right
that brings out the 12 year old popular scientist kid lurking in every geek ? This is like so far from practical clincial use. Its fun to speculate, but we should be clear, this is *specualtion* and it is many years, and tens, if not hundreds of millions to get an FDA approved device. PS: I may not be able to spell, but I have a PhD in molecular biology, and understand stuff like highly conserved initiation factors with hyper modified histidine (hypusine) residues, the role of shine dalgarno....
I have a PhD in molecular biology, and have worked on articles about DNA; in some very, very obscure techniques used to study DNA, I was, for a brief period, a world authority. I no longer contribute to wiki for two reasons: 1) I have to keep correcting, and recorrecting, and re re re correcting stuff; after a while, it gets tiresome to ahve to deal with people who think that RAM is part of the keyboard... 2) The copyleft allows *for profit* webpages to use my work. I find this intolerable; my hard work is used to make some loathsome 1%er rich? I don't mind if non profits do it, but I will be Dam*** if i contribute to something that can be ripped off by for profits. I would also add that the huge amount of work needed to write in markup as opposed to wysiwyg is also a deterrent; perhaps th next gen wiki will fix this and the copy left part
2,000 dollars, including 1st Class airfare and our lux 7 night hotel package, and hearing aids....
NO, he doesn't. He says, anything I Ron Paul agree with is constitutional, and anything I don't is not... I feel really sad that people are taken in by this guy eg, if Texas wants to enact a law saying gays and blacks have to sit at the back of the bus, thats OK with R Paul (although, come to think of it, that is Obama's posistion to; I wonder how many liberals praising Obama for being for gay marriage by state would praise obama if he saidn miscegenation laws should be left up to the states.)