Telefónica WAS the old state run monopoly telephone company something like... a decade ago, but now is a private company, and has some competition.
Problem is, almost all IP space in Spain is listed as owned by them! Almost anybody goes to them to get their IP. Independent ISPs and companies use IPs listed as part of Telefonica network. So if this block is just taking every network listed on whois as "Telefónica", then a lot of people have been cut off.
At this point I dont know if I should be more angry with the AHBL or Telefónica, who is incredibly shitty in technical expertise, customer service, and almost every other area except billing us at least 4 times as much as any other company in any other european country for lower quality service. But there HAS to be a better way than to cut service to a lot of innocent bystanders who are also being screwed by Telefónica. Unless the plan is to foster a consumer revolution and have us storming Telefónica buildings...
Once again, Telefónica earns the nickname we use for them, Timofónica (like Scamophonic)
If they think they have it hard in the States, I dont know if they are going to find it easier here in Spain if the local RIIA equivalent (SGAE) becomes crazy enough to try this stunt...
Walk on Madrid or Barcelona and you would find plenty of streets packed with what we call "top manta": illegal inmigrants that put a blanket on the floor and display all the music CD's, movie DVD, and PSOne games you could possibly want, and if you dont find what you want, they get it for you tomorrow. And they have a lot of clients, the thing just look like a bazaar, with police nearby just minding their own business and ignoring them.
On one hand they have all the suspects in the open but on the other if they try that shit here it could easily degenerate in a riot.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm not even American and I dont even know our own laws (but I'm sure here that would be very difficult for what I'm going to say later...)
In my knowledge, here in Spain as in a lot of EU countries, the company would either a) fire you "without reason" and then you get benefits (severance pay, social security, all that), or b) use that audit as proof that you should be fired for being incompetent/bad/a risk, and you would get nothing (worse, you would get in your Social Security history that you were fired for a reason, and next employer is going to ask why)... that if you dont drag this to court, they find its a lie, etc.
So, this may not apply on USA at all, but giving the more litigious enviroment there, cant you sue them? Because you have lost a job & a good reference (not like you are going to list them in your resume now; "Yes, he was the one we fired because he was a big security risk" is not a good recomendation), all for a document they made. If you are sure that what they said is a lie, and it was the reason you got fired, then you could go to court. Right?
Of course, its also very possible than then nobody wants to hire you because you are actually fighting for your rights, but that would be something I would look to do if I feel this is going to "linger" over my reputation and hinder my possibilities to get a new job elsewhere.
Jesus Couto F.
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Telefónica WAS the old state run monopoly telephone company something like... a decade ago, but now is a private company, and has some competition.
Problem is, almost all IP space in Spain is listed as owned by them! Almost anybody goes to them to get their IP. Independent ISPs and companies use IPs listed as part of Telefonica network. So if this block is just taking every network listed on whois as "Telefónica", then a lot of people have been cut off.
At this point I dont know if I should be more angry with the AHBL or Telefónica, who is incredibly shitty in technical expertise, customer service, and almost every other area except billing us at least 4 times as much as any other company in any other european country for lower quality service. But there HAS to be a better way than to cut service to a lot of innocent bystanders who are also being screwed by Telefónica. Unless the plan is to foster a consumer revolution and have us storming Telefónica buildings...
Once again, Telefónica earns the nickname we use for them, Timofónica (like Scamophonic)
Jesús Couto F.
If they think they have it hard in the States, I dont know if they are going to find it easier here in Spain if the local RIIA equivalent (SGAE) becomes crazy enough to try this stunt...
Walk on Madrid or Barcelona and you would find plenty of streets packed with what we call "top manta": illegal inmigrants that put a blanket on the floor and display all the music CD's, movie DVD, and PSOne games you could possibly want, and if you dont find what you want, they get it for you tomorrow. And they have a lot of clients, the thing just look like a bazaar, with police nearby just minding their own business and ignoring them.
On one hand they have all the suspects in the open but on the other if they try that shit here it could easily degenerate in a riot.
Jesus Couto F.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm not even American and I dont even know our own laws (but I'm sure here that would be very difficult for what I'm going to say later...) In my knowledge, here in Spain as in a lot of EU countries, the company would either a) fire you "without reason" and then you get benefits (severance pay, social security, all that), or b) use that audit as proof that you should be fired for being incompetent/bad/a risk, and you would get nothing (worse, you would get in your Social Security history that you were fired for a reason, and next employer is going to ask why)... that if you dont drag this to court, they find its a lie, etc. So, this may not apply on USA at all, but giving the more litigious enviroment there, cant you sue them? Because you have lost a job & a good reference (not like you are going to list them in your resume now; "Yes, he was the one we fired because he was a big security risk" is not a good recomendation), all for a document they made. If you are sure that what they said is a lie, and it was the reason you got fired, then you could go to court. Right? Of course, its also very possible than then nobody wants to hire you because you are actually fighting for your rights, but that would be something I would look to do if I feel this is going to "linger" over my reputation and hinder my possibilities to get a new job elsewhere. Jesus Couto F.