The reason I use a PCI NIC over an onboard one is because if it dies, I can replace it readily...
Reliability... well, I don't really agree with you there.. KISS is the most reliable in my opinion.
Less power is a non-issue for me (yes, I suck as an environmentalist:( ) but it's a valid point, though since I'm not a hardware expert I can't really comment on whether third part components aren't as power friendly as onboard ones...
"Oh come on, its nothing like what Microsoft does"
I was referring to Microsofts tendency to include everything and the kitchen sink with an Operating System, e.g. Media player, Internet Explorer, Games etc
"You say security is what you look for in a motherboard - how is this motherboard, with a well designed, built in, hardware level firewall, any less secure than any other motherboard that is the same except for the firewall. Or are you complaining about the SATA? Motherboards with SATA should be banned, and we should all still stick with ATA alone? Or maybe its the onboard RAID? Or is 100base onboard ethernet somehow better than GB?"
Actually, I do think that motherboards should come without Network cards, without raid controllers etc. If the network card stops working, replace the network card. Better than replacing the motherboard. As for security, the less it does, the less chance of a security flaw. That's all.
"The more I think about it, the more I realize that I shouldn't respond to this at all, but should have given you a -1:Flamebait. I mean if " Security, stability, and performance are the top features I look for in a motherboard", then RTFA and notice that performance is ahead of its class, and its very stable, not to mention the extra steps taken for security. Hopefully some mods will take care of this."
I am sorry that you feel so strongly against my opinion. Generally I just believe that there can't be flaws in hardware that doesn't exist, and when something breaks I prefer to replace a component rather than replace the whole motherboard.
Maybe you are wanting to mark my post as flamebait because of the Microsoft reference appears to be a general Microsoft bashing fest... It was merely a colloquial reference of modular stripped down linux vs Monolithic all inter-twined Windows. No, I'm not an expert in hardware, I only put together my computers, not design them. It's just my opinion, expressed civilly.
I totally disagree with the statement "Looks like we've reached a point where chipsets will differentiate on features more than performance.", even so far as to say that this is a disturbing trend.
That is the exact same strategy that Microsoft uses in it's operating systems. Security, stability, and performance are the top features I look for in a motherboard, and actually steer clear of motherboards with too many features...
Many billions of creatures may be having sex.
But at the same time, a lot of those creatures are getting killed while having sex (spiders, praying mantus).
Not so bad to be celebet once you think about it eh? Or at least i try to comfort myself with that:(
it means "Endlessly laborious or futile".
In short, it comes from the Greek Legend of Sisyphus. He was an extremely gifted mortal and the gods grew jealous, so they comdemned Sisyphus to ceaselessly rolling a rock to the top of a mountain, and letting it roll back down again, hence the endless futile labour.
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In Australia I used to have a pipe house that consisted of PVC pipes with holes in them, and it connected up to a hose to keep cool inside...
It could also have a sheet thrown over it, but nowhere near as intricate as that.
Still, it's something like it.
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Well, we've heards tons of BSD is dying from the gentoo fans..
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Does that mean this is fodder for BSD fans to retort with Gentoo is dieing?
NB. I am a very avid gentoo fan
Linux distro yes, but that's not Linux. I personally use gentoo, and only install what I actually use.
The reason I use a PCI NIC over an onboard one is because if it dies, I can replace it readily...
:( ) but it's a valid point, though since I'm not a hardware expert I can't really comment on whether third part components aren't as power friendly as onboard ones...
:)
Reliability... well, I don't really agree with you there.. KISS is the most reliable in my opinion.
Less power is a non-issue for me (yes, I suck as an environmentalist
Each to their own opinion...
"Oh come on, its nothing like what Microsoft does"
I was referring to Microsofts tendency to include everything and the kitchen sink with an Operating System, e.g. Media player, Internet Explorer, Games etc
"You say security is what you look for in a motherboard - how is this motherboard, with a well designed, built in, hardware level firewall, any less secure than any other motherboard that is the same except for the firewall. Or are you complaining about the SATA? Motherboards with SATA should be banned, and we should all still stick with ATA alone? Or maybe its the onboard RAID? Or is 100base onboard ethernet somehow better than GB?"
Actually, I do think that motherboards should come without Network cards, without raid controllers etc. If the network card stops working, replace the network card. Better than replacing the motherboard. As for security, the less it does, the less chance of a security flaw. That's all.
"The more I think about it, the more I realize that I shouldn't respond to this at all, but should have given you a -1:Flamebait. I mean if " Security, stability, and performance are the top features I look for in a motherboard", then RTFA and notice that performance is ahead of its class, and its very stable, not to mention the extra steps taken for security. Hopefully some mods will take care of this."
I am sorry that you feel so strongly against my opinion. Generally I just believe that there can't be flaws in hardware that doesn't exist, and when something breaks I prefer to replace a component rather than replace the whole motherboard.
Maybe you are wanting to mark my post as flamebait because of the Microsoft reference appears to be a general Microsoft bashing fest... It was merely a colloquial reference of modular stripped down linux vs Monolithic all inter-twined Windows. No, I'm not an expert in hardware, I only put together my computers, not design them. It's just my opinion, expressed civilly.
I totally disagree with the statement "Looks like we've reached a point where chipsets will differentiate on features more than performance.", even so far as to say that this is a disturbing trend.
That is the exact same strategy that Microsoft uses in it's operating systems. Security, stability, and performance are the top features I look for in a motherboard, and actually steer clear of motherboards with too many features...
KISS says it all
I believe that you must roll your own Linux kernel or network stack in order to send the (correct? bad?) commands that cause openBSD's crash to occur.
Many billions of creatures may be having sex. But at the same time, a lot of those creatures are getting killed while having sex (spiders, praying mantus). Not so bad to be celebet once you think about it eh? Or at least i try to comfort myself with that :(
Did anyone else when first reading about the creator of Ctrl-Alt-Del immediately think of http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/ ?
it means "Endlessly laborious or futile". In short, it comes from the Greek Legend of Sisyphus. He was an extremely gifted mortal and the gods grew jealous, so they comdemned Sisyphus to ceaselessly rolling a rock to the top of a mountain, and letting it roll back down again, hence the endless futile labour.
In Australia I used to have a pipe house that consisted of PVC pipes with holes in them, and it connected up to a hose to keep cool inside... It could also have a sheet thrown over it, but nowhere near as intricate as that. Still, it's something like it.