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I dont even know what to say to such a thing. You live with your parents? What tuition are you getting? I dont have parents to pay my car payment, pay my rent, pay for my food and so on. I am not the exception to the rule either. I applaud your parents for helping you out. I think thats the way it should be, but your situation is hardly a decent comparison to the real world. YOu situation reminds me of that show called real world where they put writers, song singers, models, and rappers in a house and call it real world. where are the plumbers, the mechanics, the service members, the mcdonald workers? SO if this is harsh kid, but I about laughed my ass out of my chair when I read wht you wrote.
gothkilla
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You must have the same Tshirt I have. "I lost my Job when it got exported to Thailand and All I have to show for it is this Tshirt made by a 12 year old kid for 10 cents a day in a company run by a slum lord"
But its cheaper than your big mac. Yum Yum (Typical ignorant American thinking---as long as its not me and I prosper, I dont care.)
Gothkilla
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I am an American studying labor issues in my country and you are somewhat correct. We have percentage of our paycheck going to unemployement, but (this is the good part) It caps at 75% of your last pay or about 700 USD a month-which ever comes first. Also you are kicked up after 6 months (exceptions to this are high unemployement--right now it is 12 months) Whether or not you have a job or not you are expected to get off the government assistance.
The question to why dont people pressure the goverment more--this is complicated. First of all our media is controlled by the 12 wealthiest people or corporations. So the media is slanted and many people are unaware of the issues. Why dont people go beyond this? The answer to this is our public school systems are failing. We use textbooks 20 years old. We have to beg for money at bake sales and tax levies. States pay taxes up to the federal goverment and the federal government goes to war so money does not go back down. Right now on state and city levels city police and firefighters are being layed off, university tuition is going up, and public schools are firing teachers because funds from federal to state level have been cut. So now you have a mass of people being lied to and not question it because they to not have the intellect to question all of this. The third thing is American arrogance which I do not have an explanation for. I served in the military and just about every comrade felt they lived in the best country in the world and none was better. They also think everybody who is not an American wants to be an American. So when you think you are the best how you possibly have problems. I think alot of it comes from the fact even though we are supposedly the strongest country in the world our everyday citizens are extremely isolated in their perceptions, ideas, and contacts. Most do not know how it is in other countries but they still watch John Wayne movies where American always wins because we are good everything opposing us is evil. 4rth our country has followed the example of the Roman empire. Even though the Roman empire has many different languages, cultures and beliefs you could rest assured no matter which roman town you went into the colleseum, cathedral, and etc. were there and in the same place. Also the masses were appease by entertainment. If you come to America all towns and cities look the same. You have your walmarts, mcdonalds and many other chains. It makes us feel comfortable which equates to complacentcy. Also it is not a mistake everytime we go to war a couple dozen war movies glorifying America. Its kind of like the bloody war scenes acted out in colleseums by gladiators. It goes on and on. But it so complicated it can not be explained so easily.
I hope this helps
Mike
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Man O' Man--I love it when a goth says quite wining. Didnt you guys perfect wining.
First of all this is not about a technology that outgrew anybodys skill set. This is about a technology that is being bought off a market where a programmer makes good money if he makes 8000 USD (IN INDIA. Also medical doctors make 15k, just to give you an idea of the scale) You can not tell me anybody in the United states can live off of 8000 dollars (poverty level is 17000 USD in the US)Capitalism is about "fair" play and fair competition but when you have an economy that is about 50-100 years behind ours and is a 1/6th as strong what the US has this is exploitation of the masses. There has not been a skill set that has outgrown American workers it is fair trade and fair competition that has been out grown by corporate greed. Last year in one of hardest years in US economy since Reagan was in office 300,000 thousand IT and Programming jobs were sent to Asian countries. Who took the jobs? Those non-nationals who went to american universites on student visas and American scholarships and grants made for just foriegners, so dont think they got and I didnt because they worked harder than I did--they are not open to me (By the way as for lazy just so you know, I work 2 jobs, have a family, go to school full time and I volunteer my free time, yet I have not received a raise in 4 years of work at a well known telecom company). My friends (american nationals) who have programming jobs paid their dues by racking up school loans getting masters in CS (Some have secondary PhDs) while working 3 jobs. Now they have families and debt while having skills-- SKILLS (what an ignorant thing to say--all people unemployed dont have skills, Thats like say all programmers have the intellect to know they are being greased in the rump)Do you suggestthey go back to school to learn new skills while raising a family (by the way being a parent means you are at home some of the time to be a "parent"--not using every hour of the day to learn "new skill sets". You dont have to have a sob story like you goths want to have to be a true blue working hard american)and paying for their financial responsibilities. With the free trade agreements rich owners are left to exploit lesser economies while pitching the skilled American middle class to the side. NAFTA inflated the Mexican currency by %600 raising Mexicos poverty level at the same time sending close to 400,000 American jobs to lower leveled Economies in other countries so CEOS could have bigger swimming pools. (I guess that was not enough for some. They had to fudge stock prices and revenue to inflate their revenue while neglecting to keep up the 401K monies which is required by law but never enforced--see ENRON, MCI and QWEST for facts) Why do think their has been an increase in Mexican immigration to northern United states---we destroyed their currency. The same thing is happening with Technology jobs. It is estimated half a million IT jobs will be exported to India in the next couple of years for about 10Grand a pop. Next year India will generate 1 billion dollars in American imported IT jobs.
Now I have thrown many things at you and I am nobody to you. I am sure I will get a "suck it up" and "quite your wining". I really could give a damn either way. I am getting out of technology myself and if you stay in it you will be living off my dime in unemployement while I say "quite YOUR wining."
I am a Labor and Industry Studies major and I am writing my thesis on this. I deal with these facts and statistics everyday (many put out by the labor department". The truth is you better get smart quick. It doesnt matter what your skill set is, what your education is, or any of that crap. The fact is if you are in technology your job is disappearing. So you are right in a sense--learn a new skill set because burgers will always need flipped. I know I like them.
American Winer,
gothkilla
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I dont even know what to say to such a thing. You live with your parents? What tuition are you getting? I dont have parents to pay my car payment, pay my rent, pay for my food and so on. I am not the exception to the rule either. I applaud your parents for helping you out. I think thats the way it should be, but your situation is hardly a decent comparison to the real world. YOu situation reminds me of that show called real world where they put writers, song singers, models, and rappers in a house and call it real world. where are the plumbers, the mechanics, the service members, the mcdonald workers? SO if this is harsh kid, but I about laughed my ass out of my chair when I read wht you wrote. gothkilla
You must have the same Tshirt I have. "I lost my Job when it got exported to Thailand and All I have to show for it is this Tshirt made by a 12 year old kid for 10 cents a day in a company run by a slum lord" But its cheaper than your big mac. Yum Yum (Typical ignorant American thinking---as long as its not me and I prosper, I dont care.) Gothkilla
I am an American studying labor issues in my country and you are somewhat correct. We have percentage of our paycheck going to unemployement, but (this is the good part) It caps at 75% of your last pay or about 700 USD a month-which ever comes first. Also you are kicked up after 6 months (exceptions to this are high unemployement--right now it is 12 months) Whether or not you have a job or not you are expected to get off the government assistance. The question to why dont people pressure the goverment more--this is complicated. First of all our media is controlled by the 12 wealthiest people or corporations. So the media is slanted and many people are unaware of the issues. Why dont people go beyond this? The answer to this is our public school systems are failing. We use textbooks 20 years old. We have to beg for money at bake sales and tax levies. States pay taxes up to the federal goverment and the federal government goes to war so money does not go back down. Right now on state and city levels city police and firefighters are being layed off, university tuition is going up, and public schools are firing teachers because funds from federal to state level have been cut. So now you have a mass of people being lied to and not question it because they to not have the intellect to question all of this. The third thing is American arrogance which I do not have an explanation for. I served in the military and just about every comrade felt they lived in the best country in the world and none was better. They also think everybody who is not an American wants to be an American. So when you think you are the best how you possibly have problems. I think alot of it comes from the fact even though we are supposedly the strongest country in the world our everyday citizens are extremely isolated in their perceptions, ideas, and contacts. Most do not know how it is in other countries but they still watch John Wayne movies where American always wins because we are good everything opposing us is evil. 4rth our country has followed the example of the Roman empire. Even though the Roman empire has many different languages, cultures and beliefs you could rest assured no matter which roman town you went into the colleseum, cathedral, and etc. were there and in the same place. Also the masses were appease by entertainment. If you come to America all towns and cities look the same. You have your walmarts, mcdonalds and many other chains. It makes us feel comfortable which equates to complacentcy. Also it is not a mistake everytime we go to war a couple dozen war movies glorifying America. Its kind of like the bloody war scenes acted out in colleseums by gladiators. It goes on and on. But it so complicated it can not be explained so easily. I hope this helps Mike
Man O' Man--I love it when a goth says quite wining. Didnt you guys perfect wining. First of all this is not about a technology that outgrew anybodys skill set. This is about a technology that is being bought off a market where a programmer makes good money if he makes 8000 USD (IN INDIA. Also medical doctors make 15k, just to give you an idea of the scale) You can not tell me anybody in the United states can live off of 8000 dollars (poverty level is 17000 USD in the US)Capitalism is about "fair" play and fair competition but when you have an economy that is about 50-100 years behind ours and is a 1/6th as strong what the US has this is exploitation of the masses. There has not been a skill set that has outgrown American workers it is fair trade and fair competition that has been out grown by corporate greed. Last year in one of hardest years in US economy since Reagan was in office 300,000 thousand IT and Programming jobs were sent to Asian countries. Who took the jobs? Those non-nationals who went to american universites on student visas and American scholarships and grants made for just foriegners, so dont think they got and I didnt because they worked harder than I did--they are not open to me (By the way as for lazy just so you know, I work 2 jobs, have a family, go to school full time and I volunteer my free time, yet I have not received a raise in 4 years of work at a well known telecom company). My friends (american nationals) who have programming jobs paid their dues by racking up school loans getting masters in CS (Some have secondary PhDs) while working 3 jobs. Now they have families and debt while having skills-- SKILLS (what an ignorant thing to say--all people unemployed dont have skills, Thats like say all programmers have the intellect to know they are being greased in the rump)Do you suggestthey go back to school to learn new skills while raising a family (by the way being a parent means you are at home some of the time to be a "parent"--not using every hour of the day to learn "new skill sets". You dont have to have a sob story like you goths want to have to be a true blue working hard american)and paying for their financial responsibilities. With the free trade agreements rich owners are left to exploit lesser economies while pitching the skilled American middle class to the side. NAFTA inflated the Mexican currency by %600 raising Mexicos poverty level at the same time sending close to 400,000 American jobs to lower leveled Economies in other countries so CEOS could have bigger swimming pools. (I guess that was not enough for some. They had to fudge stock prices and revenue to inflate their revenue while neglecting to keep up the 401K monies which is required by law but never enforced--see ENRON, MCI and QWEST for facts) Why do think their has been an increase in Mexican immigration to northern United states---we destroyed their currency. The same thing is happening with Technology jobs. It is estimated half a million IT jobs will be exported to India in the next couple of years for about 10Grand a pop. Next year India will generate 1 billion dollars in American imported IT jobs. Now I have thrown many things at you and I am nobody to you. I am sure I will get a "suck it up" and "quite your wining". I really could give a damn either way. I am getting out of technology myself and if you stay in it you will be living off my dime in unemployement while I say "quite YOUR wining." I am a Labor and Industry Studies major and I am writing my thesis on this. I deal with these facts and statistics everyday (many put out by the labor department". The truth is you better get smart quick. It doesnt matter what your skill set is, what your education is, or any of that crap. The fact is if you are in technology your job is disappearing. So you are right in a sense--learn a new skill set because burgers will always need flipped. I know I like them. American Winer, gothkilla