I love newspaper. I love the smell, the feel, the sound and that great pleasure of sitting at the table with my morning cup of coffee scanning and reading the day's stories. But I also hate it. They have disenfranchised readers as well as advertisers. First the readers - They are out of touch. They have abandoned real journalism for opinion in the guise of journalism. Their paper product is not timely since the advent of the internet and they will cover one topic to death thinking that is what their readers want. Now the the advertisers - The cost of advertising has far outpaced the cost of their product and their audience. In addition, they they have slumbered along resistant to change and innovation to help their advertisers. Unless they are will to grasp today's fast paced world and innovate they will be relegated to the recyling bin.
Once again you have ignored the original thread and skirted my statements to suit your needs. I am not against Macs. I used one for several years before I switched to a PC. It did not fit my needs. What I am against is this cocoon of safety and superiority that Mac users profess.
1) You can not make a statement that there are no viruses for the the Mac. THAT IS A LIE!
Just because something has not happened does not mean it can't. Look at 911. 90
percent of the world uses PCs which is where the bulk of the threats have come from -- duh! OS X is based on Unix which means that there is a very real threat that hackers and code writers will turn their attention to
vulnerabilities in the Mac. It is only a matter of time. You are probably safe for now but lets not ignore the threat.
2) I actually like iMovie and iPhoto and find them good programs to work with video and images. As they exist, they are better than what comes with the PC. We could sit here all year long and argue the merits of one particular program over another. However, I still prefer stand alone programs for
serious work.
3) Statistics and anecdotal evidence don't mean didly when after three years there is no
warranty or support. There is volumes of evidence of the failure of electromechanical
equipment after three years. Monitors, hard drives, other drives etc. Granted some of this has gotten better but the operative word is three years.
In regards to calling someone a liar. I call them as I see them. Too much of the world has believed the lies of others. Do we remember Enron or WorldCom? When someone does not tell the truth they are lying - period. End of discussion.
My comments to Joe were to illustrate that is not all cut and dried which system to buy or use and lying about something only illustrates ignorance.
1) The original statement was - "there are no virus problems on a Mac". This is 100 percent not true, false, and is a BOLD FACE LIE! Now lets talk about OS X which is based on Unix. Unix has been around longer than windows and there are a lot of people (hackers) familiar with it. If Mac users think that they can't get hacked they are fooling themselves. You still need firewall and AV software. In addition, there are several
viruses that can effect OS X including Simpsons and SevenDust but only in the classic environment.
2) If all you want to do is play with your machine, then the applications that come preloaded are fine on both Mac and PC. I have done both and there are features that are better on one or the other system. However, both are adequete. That they are completely different is once again totally subjective. If you are serious (professional) then you will want to purchase stand alone programs. That is how Adobe and other software developers make money.
3) The differences between Mac and PC are well documented. The gap that once existed to do a certain type of job is no longer there. Once again, the statement was about a "3 year old machine". If you are buying a 3 year old machine off of Ebay you are a FOOL! No warranty, no support etc., etc. Unless you like tinkering with antiques then you had better stick with a 1 to 2 year old machine. In that case, Macs show higher prices than PCs. That is because they had a higher price point at purchase.
It is usual, that when one suggests that someone else is an ass, that they have not considered themselves. EARTH TO MAC USERS.
Come on Joe. I hope you are not in the business of selling computers. But then again it sounds like you are a Mac addict.
#1 is a bold faced lie. There are as many vulnerabilities on the Mac as the PC. There are virues for the Mac and they are just as pesky as the virues for the PC.
#2 is a lie and a stretch. The PC comes with all the stuff that a Mac does. It is very subjective as whether or not it is easier to work with. Any of the programs working with images, music, video work better with a purchase of software designed to handle that specifc type of file rather than rely the "lite", "OS", or "Windows" version typically loaded on either a Mac or PC.
#3 is also a lie and flies smack in the face of Moore's law. ANY electronic device will be considered almost worthless after 3 years. If you found somebody to buy your old Mac for a "good" price, then you were at a garage sale and found a sucker.
So in conclusion...get real.
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I love newspaper. I love the smell, the feel, the sound and that great pleasure of sitting at the table with my morning cup of coffee scanning and reading the day's stories. But I also hate it. They have disenfranchised readers as well as advertisers. First the readers - They are out of touch. They have abandoned real journalism for opinion in the guise of journalism. Their paper product is not timely since the advent of the internet and they will cover one topic to death thinking that is what their readers want. Now the the advertisers - The cost of advertising has far outpaced the cost of their product and their audience. In addition, they they have slumbered along resistant to change and innovation to help their advertisers. Unless they are will to grasp today's fast paced world and innovate they will be relegated to the recyling bin.
Once again you have ignored the original thread and skirted my statements to suit your needs. I am not against Macs. I used one for several years before I switched to a PC. It did not fit my needs. What I am against is this cocoon of safety and superiority that Mac users profess.
1) You can not make a statement that there are no viruses for the the Mac. THAT IS A LIE!
Just because something has not happened does not mean it can't. Look at 911. 90 percent of the world uses PCs which is where the bulk of the threats have come from -- duh! OS X is based on Unix which means that there is a very real threat that hackers and code writers will turn their attention to vulnerabilities in the Mac. It is only a matter of time. You are probably safe for now but lets not ignore the threat.
2) I actually like iMovie and iPhoto and find them good programs to work with video and images. As they exist, they are better than what comes with the PC. We could sit here all year long and argue the merits of one particular program over another. However, I still prefer stand alone programs for serious work.
3) Statistics and anecdotal evidence don't mean didly when after three years there is no warranty or support. There is volumes of evidence of the failure of electromechanical equipment after three years. Monitors, hard drives, other drives etc. Granted some of this has gotten better but the operative word is three years.
In regards to calling someone a liar. I call them as I see them. Too much of the world has believed the lies of others. Do we remember Enron or WorldCom? When someone does not tell the truth they are lying - period. End of discussion.
My comments to Joe were to illustrate that is not all cut and dried which system to buy or use and lying about something only illustrates ignorance.
1) The original statement was - "there are no virus problems on a Mac". This is 100 percent not true, false, and is a BOLD FACE LIE! Now lets talk about OS X which is based on Unix. Unix has been around longer than windows and there are a lot of people (hackers) familiar with it. If Mac users think that they can't get hacked they are fooling themselves. You still need firewall and AV software. In addition, there are several viruses that can effect OS X including Simpsons and SevenDust but only in the classic environment.
2) If all you want to do is play with your machine, then the applications that come preloaded are fine on both Mac and PC. I have done both and there are features that are better on one or the other system. However, both are adequete. That they are completely different is once again totally subjective. If you are serious (professional) then you will want to purchase stand alone programs. That is how Adobe and other software developers make money.
3) The differences between Mac and PC are well documented. The gap that once existed to do a certain type of job is no longer there. Once again, the statement was about a "3 year old machine". If you are buying a 3 year old machine off of Ebay you are a FOOL! No warranty, no support etc., etc. Unless you like tinkering with antiques then you had better stick with a 1 to 2 year old machine. In that case, Macs show higher prices than PCs. That is because they had a higher price point at purchase.
It is usual, that when one suggests that someone else is an ass, that they have not considered themselves. EARTH TO MAC USERS.
Come on Joe. I hope you are not in the business of selling computers. But then again it sounds like you are a Mac addict. #1 is a bold faced lie. There are as many vulnerabilities on the Mac as the PC. There are virues for the Mac and they are just as pesky as the virues for the PC. #2 is a lie and a stretch. The PC comes with all the stuff that a Mac does. It is very subjective as whether or not it is easier to work with. Any of the programs working with images, music, video work better with a purchase of software designed to handle that specifc type of file rather than rely the "lite", "OS", or "Windows" version typically loaded on either a Mac or PC. #3 is also a lie and flies smack in the face of Moore's law. ANY electronic device will be considered almost worthless after 3 years. If you found somebody to buy your old Mac for a "good" price, then you were at a garage sale and found a sucker. So in conclusion...get real.