would only work with IE, it was written in JSP/Applets.
I'll give you that applets never worked worth a damn, but their choice of JSP was irrelevant to whether or not the pages loaded in your browser - JSP generates HTML/CSS/JavaScript and your browser either understands it or it doesn't... the fact that the backend was done in Java is irrelevant in that case.
You're right about applets - although in Nationwide's (possible) defense, there was a time, not too long ago, when it was not obvious what the right choice for "rich internet applications" ought to be - Java Applets, JavaScript or Flash. Now we know that applets suck and even Flash is a better choice for client-side interactivity, but if their crystal ball was broken that day, they may have made what seemed like a reasonable choice back in 2000 and finally got around to digging themselves out of it just recently.
That's what I was thinking, too (although none of us appear to be able to find any online links to support our suspicions one way or the other). That goes a bit deeper than the GP might have been thinking (if we're interpreting it right) - seeing as how AOC laws vary from one country to the next. I'm curious if the law is worded that way, though, or if it just forbids leaving the country for the purpose of doing something that's illegal in the US.
It isn't "pirated" music in the same way that going to Amsterdam to smoke pot isn't a violation FDA rules on restricted drugs.
Actually, (getting completely off topic now), I seem to recall (although I'm too lazy to try to find a link online) that you can actually be arrested for violating US law outside the country once you return. I think it's mostly used against people who visit Thailand to partake in certain "services" which are very very illegal here, but I would assume the same precedent could be extended to people who visit Amsterdam to smoke pot, too.
Actually, I thought his post made perfect sense... back when Java applets were the motivating hype behind Java, the demos basically looked a lot like what we use JavaScript (or Flash) to do today (that is, present an interactive application in a web browser). What I'm hearing him say is: "I've implemented equivalent functionality as both Java Applets and as JavaScript, and I found JavaScript to be a better fit for the problem at hand."
That's not fair to the user - you're wasting his computing time by doing it that way. Instead, you should do that on the server side, like this:
<%
out.println( "<script language=\"javascript\">" );
for ( int i = 25000; i > 0; i++ )
{
out.println( "document.write(( " + i + " + ' bottles of beer on the wall,' + " + i + " + ' bottles of beer. Take one down and pass it around ' + " + (i-1) + " + ' bottles of beer on the wall\n');" );
}
out.println( "</script>" );
=>
You know, one of the things I'd like to do if I had more time and knew how to do it would be to create a bootable "system scan" disk. A rootkit could hide itself from tripwire et al, but it couldn't hide from a bootable CD. I guess you can sort of achieve the same effect with Knoppix with a bit of work, but it would be nice to have something that I could use to scan a machine for vulnerabilities without using the hard drive to boot at all.
We're talking about child porn that tries to play games with legal loopholes about whether a child is actually harmed. It encourages the direct physical abuse of real children
BEDEMIR: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEMIR: So, why do witches burn?
VILLAGER #3: Because they're made of wood...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Great gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
Thinking about it conditions the brain, too. And you were thinking about it! You thought about it so hard you wrote about it! You've set off an inevitable chain of events that can only end one way. Can I assume that you'll hand yourself over to the authorities before you become a danger to your community, or am I going to have to report you myself?
To set a device to turn off at 9pm and turn on at 8am M-F, first you define an event type to 0800-2100 and remember the number the app assigns that event as. Then you go to the day-type table and define a day as consisting of one or more events (again this is given a number). Then you create a schedule type, which consists of 7 days, each assigned a number as defined by the day-type table. This schedule type (a number!) is then filled in in a box on the device configuration screen.
You should see Unix (minus the part about "screens").
To all slashdot grammer/spelling nazi's: It's a blog not a term paper, book, or essay. So get over it!
To all illiterate, functionally dyslexic posters - spelling and grammar are actually very easy. Your inability to consistently master them might give you pause to reconsider your grasp on other fundamental concepts you thought you had a firm handle on.
resulted in almost all blogging and social networking sites establishing and usually enforcing policies
Which is, of course, the ultimate end-goal here. When it becomes too onerous to comply with the federal rules and regulations that go hand-in-hand with maintaining a blogging and social networking site, the only people who will continute to do so will be the ones who can make a profit doing so. People motivated by profit can be very, very easily coerced into behaving however the power elite requires them to behave (take a look at the media in the US). You may laugh at first, but I suspect you're much, much better informed on political issues since you started reading Slashdot - and the thought of an informed, voting populace scares the living hell out of politicians; if we wise up and actually reform the system, we might actually finally realize we don't need them.
I think the underlying hate comes from the people who have to call tech support at a placed based in India, and then can't understand or communicate with the person on the other end of the line
I recently had to call a tech support line for a company which I knew outsourced it's call center support to India. The girl on the other end of the line called herself "Irene" and talked like a California Valley Girl (if I hadn't known that the call center was in India, I would have been fooled). It was kind of a turn-on knowing that she was working so hard to fulfill my fantasy that I was talking to an American girl. It made me wonder if I could convince her to wear a cheerleader outfit or a french maid uniform or something.
Isn't that kind of the purpose of Java, one way to do it, don't reinvent the wheel?
Maybe in usage, but that doesn't lend itself well to learning. Learning, by definition, is the process of reinventing the wheel so that you understand how the wheel works. They don't teach algebra by presenting the quadratic formula and saying, "Here, use this when solving a polynomial of degree 2" - they lead you every step of the way through the development of the quadratic formula so that you know how it works and why it works. Likewise, programmers learning to program should be writing quicksort implementations rather than ignoring the details because "it's already implemented in a library".
Of course, once you've graduated and are a professional writing a program for somebody else to use, you should reuse what's available as much as possible.
"oh it's ok.. the government will take care of us". You see, they trust their government to do what they think is the right thing for them.
You see that same attitude from Americans too. Watch any Slashdot conversation on the subject of "piracy". Count the number of "but the MPAA/RIAA/BSA is doing the right thing by suing 12-year-olds because the law SAYS they're doing the right thing!" posts. That doesn't mean that the attitude is prevalent, it just means there are some people who are incapable of independent thought. Those people really used to bug me, but I finally realized one day that you can basically filter them out of any meaningful discussion or debate - they're far too busy reading about Britney Spears divorce to go out and vote, and they'll slobberingly, blindly support whatever laws the rest of us vote in.
It's the people who have a vested interest that you need to watch out for.
The whole point of using a tool that generates boilerplate code
The need for a tool to generate boilerplate code is a sign that either the underlying framework has problems or that your understanding of it is flawed. I don't need a tool to generate GridBagConstraints (talking Java now) because all of the "boilerplate" stuff was refactored up into a reusable class by Sun.
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I'll give you that applets never worked worth a damn, but their choice of JSP was irrelevant to whether or not the pages loaded in your browser - JSP generates HTML/CSS/JavaScript and your browser either understands it or it doesn't... the fact that the backend was done in Java is irrelevant in that case.
You're right about applets - although in Nationwide's (possible) defense, there was a time, not too long ago, when it was not obvious what the right choice for "rich internet applications" ought to be - Java Applets, JavaScript or Flash. Now we know that applets suck and even Flash is a better choice for client-side interactivity, but if their crystal ball was broken that day, they may have made what seemed like a reasonable choice back in 2000 and finally got around to digging themselves out of it just recently.
That's what I was thinking, too (although none of us appear to be able to find any online links to support our suspicions one way or the other). That goes a bit deeper than the GP might have been thinking (if we're interpreting it right) - seeing as how AOC laws vary from one country to the next. I'm curious if the law is worded that way, though, or if it just forbids leaving the country for the purpose of doing something that's illegal in the US.
Actually, (getting completely off topic now), I seem to recall (although I'm too lazy to try to find a link online) that you can actually be arrested for violating US law outside the country once you return. I think it's mostly used against people who visit Thailand to partake in certain "services" which are very very illegal here, but I would assume the same precedent could be extended to people who visit Amsterdam to smoke pot, too.
Actually, I thought his post made perfect sense... back when Java applets were the motivating hype behind Java, the demos basically looked a lot like what we use JavaScript (or Flash) to do today (that is, present an interactive application in a web browser). What I'm hearing him say is: "I've implemented equivalent functionality as both Java Applets and as JavaScript, and I found JavaScript to be a better fit for the problem at hand."
That's not fair to the user - you're wasting his computing time by doing it that way. Instead, you should do that on the server side, like this:
<%
out.println( "<script language=\"javascript\">" );
for ( int i = 25000; i > 0; i++ )
{
out.println( "document.write(( " + i + " + ' bottles of beer on the wall,' + " + i + " + ' bottles of beer. Take one down and pass it around ' + " + (i-1) + " + ' bottles of beer on the wall\n');" );
}
out.println( "</script>" );
=>
You know, one of the things I'd like to do if I had more time and knew how to do it would be to create a bootable "system scan" disk. A rootkit could hide itself from tripwire et al, but it couldn't hide from a bootable CD. I guess you can sort of achieve the same effect with Knoppix with a bit of work, but it would be nice to have something that I could use to scan a machine for vulnerabilities without using the hard drive to boot at all.
I always root my own boxes so that I can use that as an excuse if I ever get caught.
Yeah, there's a program you can run to flip them whenever you need to. I had to install it SUID root though.
Well, no, you're not the only one, but I think that every time I see any tag.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
And the beauty of the censorship is that the very act of checking to see if they're blocking unrelated sites is in itself a violation of the law.
Thinking about it conditions the brain, too. And you were thinking about it! You thought about it so hard you wrote about it! You've set off an inevitable chain of events that can only end one way. Can I assume that you'll hand yourself over to the authorities before you become a danger to your community, or am I going to have to report you myself?
Burn the witch!
Oh, that's alright, you can do that in Java, too:
Runtime.getRuntime( ).exec( "perl -e \"print join ' ', reverse split /[ \.]/, $ARGV[ 0 ];\"", new String[ ] { "this is a sentence" } );
You should see Unix (minus the part about "screens").
To all illiterate, functionally dyslexic posters - spelling and grammar are actually very easy. Your inability to consistently master them might give you pause to reconsider your grasp on other fundamental concepts you thought you had a firm handle on.
Which is, of course, the ultimate end-goal here. When it becomes too onerous to comply with the federal rules and regulations that go hand-in-hand with maintaining a blogging and social networking site, the only people who will continute to do so will be the ones who can make a profit doing so. People motivated by profit can be very, very easily coerced into behaving however the power elite requires them to behave (take a look at the media in the US). You may laugh at first, but I suspect you're much, much better informed on political issues since you started reading Slashdot - and the thought of an informed, voting populace scares the living hell out of politicians; if we wise up and actually reform the system, we might actually finally realize we don't need them.
Well, speak for yourself - personally I'm all for that, as long as I get to be a Chiba. At least until the uprising, anyway...
I recently had to call a tech support line for a company which I knew outsourced it's call center support to India. The girl on the other end of the line called herself "Irene" and talked like a California Valley Girl (if I hadn't known that the call center was in India, I would have been fooled). It was kind of a turn-on knowing that she was working so hard to fulfill my fantasy that I was talking to an American girl. It made me wonder if I could convince her to wear a cheerleader outfit or a french maid uniform or something.
Maybe in usage, but that doesn't lend itself well to learning. Learning, by definition, is the process of reinventing the wheel so that you understand how the wheel works. They don't teach algebra by presenting the quadratic formula and saying, "Here, use this when solving a polynomial of degree 2" - they lead you every step of the way through the development of the quadratic formula so that you know how it works and why it works. Likewise, programmers learning to program should be writing quicksort implementations rather than ignoring the details because "it's already implemented in a library".
Of course, once you've graduated and are a professional writing a program for somebody else to use, you should reuse what's available as much as possible.
You see that same attitude from Americans too. Watch any Slashdot conversation on the subject of "piracy". Count the number of "but the MPAA/RIAA/BSA is doing the right thing by suing 12-year-olds because the law SAYS they're doing the right thing!" posts. That doesn't mean that the attitude is prevalent, it just means there are some people who are incapable of independent thought. Those people really used to bug me, but I finally realized one day that you can basically filter them out of any meaningful discussion or debate - they're far too busy reading about Britney Spears divorce to go out and vote, and they'll slobberingly, blindly support whatever laws the rest of us vote in.
It's the people who have a vested interest that you need to watch out for.
You should just go the extra few feet and call it "Visually Activated GUI Is Not Application Code".
third the job search after you get fired for "wasting so much time" and not being "agile enough to meet the business needs by just getting it done".
Oh, those ads were very effective in my case. After I saw the first one, I started stealing cars, purses and DVD's off the shelf at the store, too.
The need for a tool to generate boilerplate code is a sign that either the underlying framework has problems or that your understanding of it is flawed. I don't need a tool to generate GridBagConstraints (talking Java now) because all of the "boilerplate" stuff was refactored up into a reusable class by Sun.