Give me a break, that's war. You want to compare losses in the surgical operations of today to the millions of civilians killed in the wars of yesteryear?
The US has signals collection capabilities?? Since when, the early 1900's?
I agree completely. The government always needs to be kept in check but the thing nobody wants to talk about here is that none of the cables contained surprising or troubling information. This guy wasn't outing some corrupt system (even if it is corrupt). He just had access to classified information. It's funny to me that google keeps their search algorithm a secret but no one on slashdot seems to have a problem with that.
Personally I think this would be fantastic. Two of my favorite people. I think Leo is a superb actor and we all know what a fascinating and enigmatic person Turning was.
Yeah, this makes much more sense. Didn't stop everyone from reporting that the drone fleet was infected with viruses when this first broke. I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Predator isn't running Windows 98 (or god help us all). I think those of us with some sense were wondering when the real story was going to break.
I'm sure I'm just really jaded now but I can't read a slashdot story anymore without looking for the anti-MS rhetoric. You think Microsoft sits around thinking about whether the cloud will force the adoption of open-source or closed-source software? Or do you think they're looking at what Amazon is doing and they've done the math. The cloud is about viewing computation as a commodity to be sold and bought. Why do open-source advocates have to make everything about open-source? Isn't the far more interesting trend that computing solutions are collapsing? We're getting better at this stuff and not re-inventing the wheel every time (MS is better at this than just about any other company IMHO; Oracle by comparison is terrible, which is sad news for java). It's not about open-source vs close-source it's about tool-sets that make your life easier as a developer. The cloud is just another tool. Looking at things as open vs closed is a pretty antiquated idea in my opinion.
The much larger fail here is on slashdot's part. Why do they keep posting stories like this? Either they're incompetent or they're manipulative and know this will insight drama in the comments. Either is lousy journalism, blogmanship.
I know I'm going to get banned from/. for all time, but can we talk about something like Silverlight please? It's a dream to program for and it does all the stuff that we wish javascript did. Ok, begin anti-M$ rhetoric.......now
Here here. I'm getting pretty sick of the children on slashdot who still think it's 1997 and read "C# OS" as "Windows 95". As someone who spent half their life on linux and half on Windows, here's an update: linux won the server war, windows won the desktop. Yeah, it might change at some point but for the time being it's not the worst thing in the world. Grow up for pete's sake.
Why can't Wikileaks be blamed for this? There's a long history of respectable news organizations self-censoring things that they knew were inappropriate for public consumption; things that don't add any value to a story and are incredibly damaging to the public good. I continue to be amazing by an organization that touts openness for everyone except for themselves. This incompetence is nothing more than another example of the sophomoric and immature nature of Wikileaks. The worst part is that their megalomania isn't original or interesting. It's just stupid.
Shocking, the same third party issues that caused MS so many headaches for so many years also applies to phones. The difference is people can tolerate some complexity on their desktop. Apple figured out the vertical integration thing when it came to phones. People don't want a PC in their hand, they want a well-running appliance. The failure to grasp that will be Android's undoing.
Well, that sounds like a lot of work, but ok. Bradly Manning said "If you had unprecedented access to classified networks 14 hours a day 7 days a week for 8+ months, what would you do?" So yeah, you're right, he was a champion of truth.
Ok, could you pass the math part? I have several degrees in engineering and I don't think I could. But then, upon reaching grad school I always felt I was woefully under-prepared compared to the 98% of my class that wasn't from the US. Looking at this exam just reminds me of that. And it doesn't look like the inclusion of general relativity would have slowed these guys down much.
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Yeah, that's not even close to an actual right. I love when people make assertions like this. What else do you have a right to know?
Give me a break, that's war. You want to compare losses in the surgical operations of today to the millions of civilians killed in the wars of yesteryear?
The US has signals collection capabilities?? Since when, the early 1900's?
What dirty laundry? Are you mistaking diplomacy for a conspiracy? Welcome to the last ten thousand years of human history.
I agree completely. The government always needs to be kept in check but the thing nobody wants to talk about here is that none of the cables contained surprising or troubling information. This guy wasn't outing some corrupt system (even if it is corrupt). He just had access to classified information. It's funny to me that google keeps their search algorithm a secret but no one on slashdot seems to have a problem with that.
Just die already.
Personally I think this would be fantastic. Two of my favorite people. I think Leo is a superb actor and we all know what a fascinating and enigmatic person Turning was.
Yeah, this makes much more sense. Didn't stop everyone from reporting that the drone fleet was infected with viruses when this first broke. I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Predator isn't running Windows 98 (or god help us all). I think those of us with some sense were wondering when the real story was going to break.
I'm sure I'm just really jaded now but I can't read a slashdot story anymore without looking for the anti-MS rhetoric. You think Microsoft sits around thinking about whether the cloud will force the adoption of open-source or closed-source software? Or do you think they're looking at what Amazon is doing and they've done the math. The cloud is about viewing computation as a commodity to be sold and bought. Why do open-source advocates have to make everything about open-source? Isn't the far more interesting trend that computing solutions are collapsing? We're getting better at this stuff and not re-inventing the wheel every time (MS is better at this than just about any other company IMHO; Oracle by comparison is terrible, which is sad news for java). It's not about open-source vs close-source it's about tool-sets that make your life easier as a developer. The cloud is just another tool. Looking at things as open vs closed is a pretty antiquated idea in my opinion.
The much larger fail here is on slashdot's part. Why do they keep posting stories like this? Either they're incompetent or they're manipulative and know this will insight drama in the comments. Either is lousy journalism, blogmanship.
I know I'm going to get banned from /. for all time, but can we talk about something like Silverlight please? It's a dream to program for and it does all the stuff that we wish javascript did. Ok, begin anti-M$ rhetoric.......now
He means you're going to die.
Here here. I'm getting pretty sick of the children on slashdot who still think it's 1997 and read "C# OS" as "Windows 95". As someone who spent half their life on linux and half on Windows, here's an update: linux won the server war, windows won the desktop. Yeah, it might change at some point but for the time being it's not the worst thing in the world. Grow up for pete's sake.
Holy $hit dude.
Why can't Wikileaks be blamed for this? There's a long history of respectable news organizations self-censoring things that they knew were inappropriate for public consumption; things that don't add any value to a story and are incredibly damaging to the public good. I continue to be amazing by an organization that touts openness for everyone except for themselves. This incompetence is nothing more than another example of the sophomoric and immature nature of Wikileaks. The worst part is that their megalomania isn't original or interesting. It's just stupid.
Personally I find it comforting to know that google runs into the same sorts of problems that we do.
Yeah, plus who ever heard of an eagle using a stool! Stupid cartoonists...
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You knocked on the devil's door my friends.
Shocking, the same third party issues that caused MS so many headaches for so many years also applies to phones. The difference is people can tolerate some complexity on their desktop. Apple figured out the vertical integration thing when it came to phones. People don't want a PC in their hand, they want a well-running appliance. The failure to grasp that will be Android's undoing.
As if we needed more snake-oil when it comes to computer security; especially where it involves encryption. I hope these guys get taken to task.
Well, that sounds like a lot of work, but ok. Bradly Manning said "If you had unprecedented access to classified networks 14 hours a day 7 days a week for 8+ months, what would you do?" So yeah, you're right, he was a champion of truth.
Yeah...that's neat how you took an example of an argument and used it to disprove all instances of it.
Maybe it has something to do with people knowing they are doing things that they shouldn't be doing. Like holding people without trial forever?
Maybe it has something to do with people having access to neat information and wanting to feel important.
Ok, could you pass the math part? I have several degrees in engineering and I don't think I could. But then, upon reaching grad school I always felt I was woefully under-prepared compared to the 98% of my class that wasn't from the US. Looking at this exam just reminds me of that. And it doesn't look like the inclusion of general relativity would have slowed these guys down much.
That's true. Maybe those poor, misunderstood pirates are just doing their part to combat global warming.