Why shouldn't dark energy change? gain and lose power (though i would think lose power)...as it travels, in its wake it leaves dust clouds, atoms, rocks, etc...new things are formed - so where do these new things come from? There has to be something supplying these resources - and if it is coming from this dark energy - shouldn't that be depleting it?
Just my two cents...I guess that I am of the mindset that you can't get something from nothing?
When I call my mom, she will have to pay for the call? I mean let's face it...even though I pay to speak to my mom, that doesn't mean she has a right to hear it or respond...she needs to pay my phone company also....as DSL clients finally switch to Cable - and a monopoly gets created by the phone company that works in THEIR disfavor.
Damage reduction, in that manner, is nothing new or interesting. They have been doing this in Warhammer RP for years, Rifts, and I think DC superheroes and even Marvel superheroes did this also. As for the amount of HP - it doesn't matter, it is all about scale. If Games of Thrones gives 1 HP per level, but a longsword only does 1-2 damage then it is equivelant to a whole die (ranging from d4 to d12) when the weapon can do 1-8 damage. Not to mention, HP in dungeons and dragon is not just pure damage potential...really, who can take twenty sword strikes to the body? It figures in things like stamina, and the dodge. Those 10 points of damage may be a small nick, but the rest is you getting tired from dodging around for those few rounds. Anyhow, comparing damage scales from one world to another is never a good idea - it just doesnt work....put it this way - look at DC superheroes...average person has 1-2 in a given stat....in DnD the average person is 10 - does that mean DC is better balanced then DnD? No, I created a 750 point (which is average) build with a mental blast power that would literally destroy the minds of gods.
The words "new genres" and "Call of Cthulhu" cannot be utilized in the same sentence. Most geeks who don't know much of DnD and RP in general still can make references to Cthulhu jokes (which involve creating a character, dying, and then creating a new character 5 minutes later)
is it really wise to change the logo to something that has no inherent brand identification, and to drop the incredibly recognizable 'Pentium'
Yea, because the intel logo, you know the one posted at the top of this article, doesn't have enough brand recognition. For a group of people who supposedly embrace change, sometimes these topic posters really are gun shy to it.
Oh please, like some parent stands a chance against all those marketers sloshing their emails, and their kids email boxes full of porn and other adult-only products. Come on let us be realistic...those markets will mass mail anything and anyone - they don't care and they need to be punished. This is not overreaching...this is not the gov't telling me how to raise my kids....this is the gov't helping me out by making it harder for jackasses to email my kid a picture of some girl having sex with a cow and saying "need some viagra?"
As to your numbers
1) Yea, but accidents do happen as well as unexpected financial difficulties like being laid off from your job due to catastrophic events like 911, Katrina,.com bubble, etc.
2)Thanks - now I need to join a church to have a family. Thanks for pushing your religious republican views on me
3)No, raising a child - at no point - means having one parent at home. That is a luxary some families have, but many do not. Also, you cannot assume each family is frivolously spending money on toys, cars, vacations, etc before spending money on their childrens clothing, food and education. Oh, and things like toys - for children - is an important part of their growth cycle. Children need to be children before they can be adults.
4)Duh we know that, but life is life and sometimes kids will slip away. Also, you need to be able to let your kids wander on their own at times so they learn on their own.
Whats that, the phone is ringing...your elephant buddies are calling something about needing to get a AK-47, fully auto, with laser sight and sniper scope so they can go kill obliterate a herd of pigeons off their back yard.
Your a/. geek, most likely sober/drunk you are hoping that the most ugly troll will sleep with you because you damn well know the hot girl won't.
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Because many, many more people would be affected. Apple have sold around 45 million iPods since 2001, while Dell shipped 188 million PCs in 2004 alone. Dell have approximately 30% of the PC market, so we can assume for the sake of this argument that something like 600 million PCs were sold in 2004, with 90% or so of those either having Windows on them, or being an eventual Windows recipient. That's 540 million people who would potentially be affected through one years' PC sales alone, versus maybe 45 million iPod users _in total_ (assuming that all iPods ever bought are still in active use, which is extremely unlikely). Thus, the potential for damage from something MS does is at least an order of magnitude greater than a similar act by Apple, and would consequently elicit a much higher level of general condemnation.
Sorry, no, that is just an excuse to justify things. If it affects one person or one million persons it still has caused harm. If we are to blame MS and jump on their necks, it would be unfair and irresponsible of us to not do the same to other companies. Our moral high ground only holds if we - well you know - hold the moral high ground. You can't do that if you compromise it for some, but not others.
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The problem is if this were a program from Windows we would be flying ape shit. The fact that it is apple it is gaining much more support. But the real question is, who here didn't know iTunes was tracking your listening habits? I frankly dislike itunes because it loads three separate process up in my computer....I think one program should load up ONE process, 2+ Anyhow, I have my iTunes set to be blocked from the net.
Considering CS students working with a scholarship are the vast minority, you really don't have an argument here. Maybe one in one hundred will have an valid excuse other than pure laziness to attribute their lack of knowledge to.
Thanks for your 1 in 100 conclusion...and you got these numbers where?
Then you don't care about it. You may enjoy it, but you don't really care about it. If you cared about it you would spend hours every day pouring over every bit of knowledge you could get your hands on. Mechanics serve as another good example - the good ones that really care about their work are the kind of people who fix up cars (or do something in their field) in their spare time.
And after telling what these kids feel/think, you go on to telling me how i feel/think...you really are stretching yourself now. And yes, I do spend at least 4-5 hours a day studying.
And how many of these people are turning out genuinely decent code? Code that is stable, fast, and just plain clever? Or better yet, how many of them are doing simply codemonkey work like writing glorified frontends to databases in Perl/PHP/ASP?
They all are...they know their stuff - they just are biding their time until they get a position they see is better.
See you are going in circles with me and in the end it boils down to one thing...you have NO proof. You are assuming these kids don't know enough because they don't care enough which is total bullshit on your part. My argument is done on this.
If they don't care about it, then they shouldn't be taking programming.
That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, but it does not make it correct. A person is entitled to not care about something and still learn it.
The person I was replying to stated that it was decent work for second year students.
yea that was me. We have been replying to each other. What's your point?
If they really care about CS, then the fact that they are second year students should be meaningless as far as knowledge goes.
No that is false...a second year CS student is probably going to have less knowledge then someone who graduated with a CS degree (assuming same school) and is working in the field. I still can't see how you automatically assume they should know enough - this is naive.
Used books can be picked up cheap, and free internet access is widely available. Chances are if they can afford to go to university, they can afford learning material.
Again you are assuming. These kids could be on full scholarship and a limited budget. They may have not had internet access (still many parts of this country do not have it), and their family could be poor enough where they never owned a computer so having a computer book - even a free one - would do them no good.
Not to mention, your premise "if they care they should know most of it" is completely and utterly wrong on so many levels. I care about programming, I love it - I don't know 10% of it. I know people who don't really care much about programming, but can program like there is no tomorrow. The only reason they are in their jobs is biding their time to get a promotion so they can boss people around to program.
I think the point was that an XBOX360 (Microsoft Product) was the prize for the winner, a game that ONLY worked on OSX laptops (very NOT Microsoft, even, dare I say, AntiMicrosoft).
Not "gasp! look! it's a bird! it's a plane! it's OSX software by an academic institution!"
Neither does PS2/3, neither does Nintendo Gamecube, neither does any game system natively run on OSx, linux or windows. I might understand your argument if they gave the kids a windows computer - but no, they gave them an gaming console. Not to mention, they gave one of their products for free. Can't people just say "thanks" and be done with it? EA games gave the kids a bunch of games...do you think any of those games - except by pure random chance - are going to run on Linux? Most of those games are for the PC or for a gaming console.
Everything you need to learn most of what is taught can be obtained from various programming books, online resources, and open source projects.
If they don't enjoy programming enough to go out and get that information, then they have no place in a CS course.
You have no basis for this statement. You have no idea of how much or how little they enjoy programming. You have no idea what extra-curricular activities they have performed. You have no idea what resources are and are not available to them. And frankly, for 2nd year students - their work is pretty damn good. I have seen officially released games which people pay for that have less quality then some of these.
Irony: Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs
The irony is that a judge from Microsoft awarded the top prize, a Microsoft product, for a game that would not work on any of their platforms.
Top prize was not an X-Box, top prize was a trip. The "Wackiest" program, which shows under the 2nd place prize, and could be considered 3rd place got the X-box. It makes sense an MS employee would give the prize since they donated the gift and attended the event.
And well, I don't know of any game consoles that are made to run on a PC, be it osx, linux, or Windows.
If they truly care about and enjoy programming then they should already know everything that is going to be taught for the rest of their enrollment. They should have known most of it before enrolling. If not, then they shouldn't be taking CS.
Without trying to be offensive, that is a completely obtuse statement. To expect someone who enjoys something to know about it, and to know most of it, before enrolling? Then really there is no point to school if you are going in knowing all of the information. You have no basis to say they do not truly care about what they are in school for, nor do you have a basis to say what their previous background was, and frankly their work is nice for 2nd year students. When I was a 2nd year student we weren't this sort of stuff, makes me wish I went to Stanford.
Ironically enough, the winners of the wacky category who received a voucher for an XBOX360 wrote a game that only worked on OSX laptops with the drop-protection motion sensors."
If you think about it...these kids attended the same school, and got the same education. If Stanford concentrates on OSx and Linux, well yea their programs are going to run on similar platforms...they are classmates, studying in the same classes. Now if you said out of 10 different schools, with different teaching methodologies (including windows coding), and all those students used OSx and Linux...then I would say "ironic"
Within a boundary of about 50 miles from the black hole center, gravity is so strong that not even light can escape its pull
I found this to be the most interesting...and here I always thought if you were anywhere near (as in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of miles) of a black hole you would be screwed...but apparantly, it is only on the 50 mile marker that you are totally hosed...I mean with our technology we would be hosed at much farther distances...but if we ever have a chance to travel at just below the speed of light then we could get within say 75 miles of a black hole?:) Just food for thought...well my thought.
I just know that the chances of an woman on IM sending naked pictures off herself to geeks is roughly zero
I've gotten a number of these through my lifetime, and met the girls and nailed em. Probably about 5-10 girls in my eight years of IMing...though most of it was back then...now I look for more substance.
I think next time i get a phish attempt I will give the girl a fake bank account number....I tried calling the FBI once, but they weren't interested. You would think they would at least try.
I still get a lot of these. Someone will message me, with PISS poor english...claim they are from the US and abroad (or in one instance...a girl from England who lives in the US but is visiting her family). Sends me some model pictures and talks to me...within hours telling me how she loves me and thinks there is something special...it usually lasts about two weeks---hey I do get bored playing CS -- and at least I am keeping those clowns busy.
It's amazing, and there is really nothing we can do about these idiots except hope people won't be stupid enough to send them money. In the end, it is the old scams "I am from war torn country, send me account number so I give you 10 million..."
As if the world didn't know Dell was considering, you know, the 2nd biggest chip manufacturer out there that outperforms Intel in many (though not all) respects.
I think what the GP was trying to say, and I thought he did a clear job of it, is that Wikipedia is not that hot of a resource...really it isn't and falls short of being called scholarly. I like wikipedia, and have my browser set to hit it's random facts page. It is nice, and I would use it as a tertiary resource - but to cry about it for scholarly works...yea right.
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Why shouldn't dark energy change? gain and lose power (though i would think lose power)...as it travels, in its wake it leaves dust clouds, atoms, rocks, etc...new things are formed - so where do these new things come from? There has to be something supplying these resources - and if it is coming from this dark energy - shouldn't that be depleting it?
Just my two cents...I guess that I am of the mindset that you can't get something from nothing?
When I call my mom, she will have to pay for the call? I mean let's face it...even though I pay to speak to my mom, that doesn't mean she has a right to hear it or respond...she needs to pay my phone company also....as DSL clients finally switch to Cable - and a monopoly gets created by the phone company that works in THEIR disfavor.
Damage reduction, in that manner, is nothing new or interesting. They have been doing this in Warhammer RP for years, Rifts, and I think DC superheroes and even Marvel superheroes did this also. As for the amount of HP - it doesn't matter, it is all about scale. If Games of Thrones gives 1 HP per level, but a longsword only does 1-2 damage then it is equivelant to a whole die (ranging from d4 to d12) when the weapon can do 1-8 damage. Not to mention, HP in dungeons and dragon is not just pure damage potential...really, who can take twenty sword strikes to the body? It figures in things like stamina, and the dodge. Those 10 points of damage may be a small nick, but the rest is you getting tired from dodging around for those few rounds. Anyhow, comparing damage scales from one world to another is never a good idea - it just doesnt work....put it this way - look at DC superheroes...average person has 1-2 in a given stat....in DnD the average person is 10 - does that mean DC is better balanced then DnD? No, I created a 750 point (which is average) build with a mental blast power that would literally destroy the minds of gods.
The words "new genres" and "Call of Cthulhu" cannot be utilized in the same sentence. Most geeks who don't know much of DnD and RP in general still can make references to Cthulhu jokes (which involve creating a character, dying, and then creating a new character 5 minutes later)
Monte Cook making a low magic game? Geez, Monte has a reputation for making extremely magical and powerful additions to DnD.
Fair enough. Thank you for the clarification :)
is it really wise to change the logo to something that has no inherent brand identification, and to drop the incredibly recognizable 'Pentium'
Yea, because the intel logo, you know the one posted at the top of this article, doesn't have enough brand recognition. For a group of people who supposedly embrace change, sometimes these topic posters really are gun shy to it.
Oh please, like some parent stands a chance against all those marketers sloshing their emails, and their kids email boxes full of porn and other adult-only products. Come on let us be realistic...those markets will mass mail anything and anyone - they don't care and they need to be punished. This is not overreaching...this is not the gov't telling me how to raise my kids....this is the gov't helping me out by making it harder for jackasses to email my kid a picture of some girl having sex with a cow and saying "need some viagra?"
.com bubble, etc.
As to your numbers
1) Yea, but accidents do happen as well as unexpected financial difficulties like being laid off from your job due to catastrophic events like 911, Katrina,
2)Thanks - now I need to join a church to have a family. Thanks for pushing your religious republican views on me
3)No, raising a child - at no point - means having one parent at home. That is a luxary some families have, but many do not. Also, you cannot assume each family is frivolously spending money on toys, cars, vacations, etc before spending money on their childrens clothing, food and education. Oh, and things like toys - for children - is an important part of their growth cycle. Children need to be children before they can be adults.
4)Duh we know that, but life is life and sometimes kids will slip away. Also, you need to be able to let your kids wander on their own at times so they learn on their own.
Whats that, the phone is ringing...your elephant buddies are calling something about needing to get a AK-47, fully auto, with laser sight and sniper scope so they can go kill obliterate a herd of pigeons off their back yard.
Yeah but do you have scientific evidence that common sense exists?
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Your a /. geek, most likely sober/drunk you are hoping that the most ugly troll will sleep with you because you damn well know the hot girl won't.
Because many, many more people would be affected. Apple have sold around 45 million iPods since 2001, while Dell shipped 188 million PCs in 2004 alone. Dell have approximately 30% of the PC market, so we can assume for the sake of this argument that something like 600 million PCs were sold in 2004, with 90% or so of those either having Windows on them, or being an eventual Windows recipient. That's 540 million people who would potentially be affected through one years' PC sales alone, versus maybe 45 million iPod users _in total_ (assuming that all iPods ever bought are still in active use, which is extremely unlikely). Thus, the potential for damage from something MS does is at least an order of magnitude greater than a similar act by Apple, and would consequently elicit a much higher level of general condemnation.
Sorry, no, that is just an excuse to justify things. If it affects one person or one million persons it still has caused harm. If we are to blame MS and jump on their necks, it would be unfair and irresponsible of us to not do the same to other companies. Our moral high ground only holds if we - well you know - hold the moral high ground. You can't do that if you compromise it for some, but not others.
The problem is if this were a program from Windows we would be flying ape shit. The fact that it is apple it is gaining much more support. But the real question is, who here didn't know iTunes was tracking your listening habits? I frankly dislike itunes because it loads three separate process up in my computer....I think one program should load up ONE process, 2+ Anyhow, I have my iTunes set to be blocked from the net.
Considering CS students working with a scholarship are the vast minority, you really don't have an argument here. Maybe one in one hundred will have an valid excuse other than pure laziness to attribute their lack of knowledge to.
Thanks for your 1 in 100 conclusion...and you got these numbers where?
Then you don't care about it. You may enjoy it, but you don't really care about it. If you cared about it you would spend hours every day pouring over every bit of knowledge you could get your hands on. Mechanics serve as another good example - the good ones that really care about their work are the kind of people who fix up cars (or do something in their field) in their spare time.
And after telling what these kids feel/think, you go on to telling me how i feel/think...you really are stretching yourself now. And yes, I do spend at least 4-5 hours a day studying.
And how many of these people are turning out genuinely decent code? Code that is stable, fast, and just plain clever? Or better yet, how many of them are doing simply codemonkey work like writing glorified frontends to databases in Perl/PHP/ASP?
They all are...they know their stuff - they just are biding their time until they get a position they see is better.
See you are going in circles with me and in the end it boils down to one thing...you have NO proof. You are assuming these kids don't know enough because they don't care enough which is total bullshit on your part. My argument is done on this.
If they don't care about it, then they shouldn't be taking programming.
That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, but it does not make it correct. A person is entitled to not care about something and still learn it.
The person I was replying to stated that it was decent work for second year students.
yea that was me. We have been replying to each other. What's your point?
If they really care about CS, then the fact that they are second year students should be meaningless as far as knowledge goes.
No that is false...a second year CS student is probably going to have less knowledge then someone who graduated with a CS degree (assuming same school) and is working in the field. I still can't see how you automatically assume they should know enough - this is naive.
Used books can be picked up cheap, and free internet access is widely available. Chances are if they can afford to go to university, they can afford learning material.
Again you are assuming. These kids could be on full scholarship and a limited budget. They may have not had internet access (still many parts of this country do not have it), and their family could be poor enough where they never owned a computer so having a computer book - even a free one - would do them no good.
Not to mention, your premise "if they care they should know most of it" is completely and utterly wrong on so many levels. I care about programming, I love it - I don't know 10% of it. I know people who don't really care much about programming, but can program like there is no tomorrow. The only reason they are in their jobs is biding their time to get a promotion so they can boss people around to program.
I think the point was that an XBOX360 (Microsoft Product) was the prize for the winner, a game that ONLY worked on OSX laptops (very NOT Microsoft, even, dare I say, AntiMicrosoft). Not "gasp! look! it's a bird! it's a plane! it's OSX software by an academic institution!"
Neither does PS2/3, neither does Nintendo Gamecube, neither does any game system natively run on OSx, linux or windows. I might understand your argument if they gave the kids a windows computer - but no, they gave them an gaming console. Not to mention, they gave one of their products for free. Can't people just say "thanks" and be done with it? EA games gave the kids a bunch of games...do you think any of those games - except by pure random chance - are going to run on Linux? Most of those games are for the PC or for a gaming console.
Everything you need to learn most of what is taught can be obtained from various programming books, online resources, and open source projects.
If they don't enjoy programming enough to go out and get that information, then they have no place in a CS course.
You have no basis for this statement. You have no idea of how much or how little they enjoy programming. You have no idea what extra-curricular activities they have performed. You have no idea what resources are and are not available to them. And frankly, for 2nd year students - their work is pretty damn good. I have seen officially released games which people pay for that have less quality then some of these.
Irony: Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs The irony is that a judge from Microsoft awarded the top prize, a Microsoft product, for a game that would not work on any of their platforms.
Top prize was not an X-Box, top prize was a trip. The "Wackiest" program, which shows under the 2nd place prize, and could be considered 3rd place got the X-box. It makes sense an MS employee would give the prize since they donated the gift and attended the event.
And well, I don't know of any game consoles that are made to run on a PC, be it osx, linux, or Windows.
If they truly care about and enjoy programming then they should already know everything that is going to be taught for the rest of their enrollment. They should have known most of it before enrolling. If not, then they shouldn't be taking CS.
Without trying to be offensive, that is a completely obtuse statement. To expect someone who enjoys something to know about it, and to know most of it, before enrolling? Then really there is no point to school if you are going in knowing all of the information. You have no basis to say they do not truly care about what they are in school for, nor do you have a basis to say what their previous background was, and frankly their work is nice for 2nd year students. When I was a 2nd year student we weren't this sort of stuff, makes me wish I went to Stanford.
I am more impressed by these guys: http://www.experimentalgameplay.com/ - 4 grad studens who created 50+ games in one semester.
Yea but for a CS246 (2nd year comp sci students) this is good...you are comparing 4 grad students to 2nd year under grads?
Ironically enough, the winners of the wacky category who received a voucher for an XBOX360 wrote a game that only worked on OSX laptops with the drop-protection motion sensors."
If you think about it...these kids attended the same school, and got the same education. If Stanford concentrates on OSx and Linux, well yea their programs are going to run on similar platforms...they are classmates, studying in the same classes. Now if you said out of 10 different schools, with different teaching methodologies (including windows coding), and all those students used OSx and Linux...then I would say "ironic"
Within a boundary of about 50 miles from the black hole center, gravity is so strong that not even light can escape its pull
:) Just food for thought...well my thought.
I found this to be the most interesting...and here I always thought if you were anywhere near (as in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of miles) of a black hole you would be screwed...but apparantly, it is only on the 50 mile marker that you are totally hosed...I mean with our technology we would be hosed at much farther distances...but if we ever have a chance to travel at just below the speed of light then we could get within say 75 miles of a black hole?
I just know that the chances of an woman on IM sending naked pictures off herself to geeks is roughly zero
I've gotten a number of these through my lifetime, and met the girls and nailed em. Probably about 5-10 girls in my eight years of IMing...though most of it was back then...now I look for more substance.
I think next time i get a phish attempt I will give the girl a fake bank account number....I tried calling the FBI once, but they weren't interested. You would think they would at least try.
I still get a lot of these. Someone will message me, with PISS poor english...claim they are from the US and abroad (or in one instance...a girl from England who lives in the US but is visiting her family). Sends me some model pictures and talks to me...within hours telling me how she loves me and thinks there is something special...it usually lasts about two weeks---hey I do get bored playing CS -- and at least I am keeping those clowns busy.
It's amazing, and there is really nothing we can do about these idiots except hope people won't be stupid enough to send them money. In the end, it is the old scams "I am from war torn country, send me account number so I give you 10 million..."
As if the world didn't know Dell was considering, you know, the 2nd biggest chip manufacturer out there that outperforms Intel in many (though not all) respects.
I think what the GP was trying to say, and I thought he did a clear job of it, is that Wikipedia is not that hot of a resource...really it isn't and falls short of being called scholarly. I like wikipedia, and have my browser set to hit it's random facts page. It is nice, and I would use it as a tertiary resource - but to cry about it for scholarly works...yea right.