No, the 'current' incarnation of CP/M would be CP/M-86, which still has some enthusiasts involved in it's use and continuing development. It has patches that allow it to (wow!) access hard drive partitions larger than 4 MB, which wasn't possible with the Stock CP/M-86 that I have in a boxed set on my shelf.
DR-DOS was a derivative product from Digital Research.
And Digital Research's problem with signing NDAs came out of the hippy culture the company grew up in. That never really changed enough for the company to survive.
The Soviets had a lot of interest in India, and in fact had good relations with the Indian government. It was never part of the Soviet empire, however.
It was sweet what IBM did to India, though. I wish Microsoft would do the same to the EU.
And it gets burned down once in awhile, i.e. Alexandria. But I think the word you were after was 'knowledge' not science. Science is just the term to describe a method of working toward knowledge.
And it's not even the only method, though there are people who zealously claim so.
Plus it came to symbolize a much larger conflict between the Bush administration's self-interested unilateral actions and much of the rest of the world's eglatarian compromising.
What a load of bullshit. Kyoto was dead before Bush was even nominated as a presidential candidate.
Most end users aren't in the IT business. To them, IT is a money-sink, and not something they're prepared to spend a lot of money 'investing' in. It's something they consider like the copying machines. They're not going to hire engineers to maintain and rebuild the copying machines. They're not going to hire engineers to write code for the network.
And hey, if it requires the users to learn a bit about computers is that really such a bad thing?
Yes. It's a bad thing. It's not what they are paying people to do.
There isn't a version of Linux for my IBM PowerStation 320H. It runs AIX 4.2 very nicely, though. It's fricking ancient. The CPU is about five different chip packages.
Why will it be a victorious day when IBM ends AIX? It's a nice OS with a lot of good features.
1. Do stuff. 2. Find problems and bugs. 3. Hope somebody out there at random fixes it. 4. Wait some more. 5. Hopefully still make profit.
The notion of treating your business computers like 'information appliances,' meanwhile, has vaporized. And that's what a lot of businesses are after. Companies don't hire mechanical engineers to build them special-purpose cogs for the copying machine that will make it produce copies 20% faster. They won't hire programmers, either.
Commercial vendors are in a drive toward standaridzation, and working to turn computer software, and the support needed to administer it, into a commodity. The notion of returning to the 1980's method of hiring 'consultants' to engage in special code tweaks on their equipment is antiquated and it's exactly what businesses do NOT want any longer.
Now, if IBM can hide all that activity beneath a 'shroud' called IBM, and certify their team of people to engage in said support activities, they'll get somewhere.
Gonna work as a drone for IBM sometime in the near future? You're not gonna get the contract to work on IBM deployments as an independent contractor.
Again, so you're saying OOo is just as crash prone as MS Office.
These 'well, Microsoft does xxxxx, so there!' snide responses to problems in OSS are really pathetic. It's like the discusson is packed with 'Anything But Microsoft' dweebs, who are happy to settle for 'anything but' compromises.
Who'd want to work at Apple? They had to buy in their new OS (much like Microsoft did back in 1980). It's not the 'prestige' thing it once was to work at Apple any longer. Hell, Steve Jobs has resorted to selling sugar water (the iTunes gimmick bottlecap thing).
I've consistently gotten more done on non-Mac boxes, where I can roll up my sleeves and dig into the filesystem. Perhaps if you're a dilentante or a light user, the Mac makes you more productive.
I worked at a medical device company several years ago where there were entire floors in the building with 64-bit Sparc Ultra 1 boxes on the desk in each cubicle. Being used as fricking desktop machines.
However, as Apple's whole marketing history is about weasel-claims, that doesn't matter... It a cult thing, as it has been for decades now.
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No, the 'current' incarnation of CP/M would be CP/M-86, which still has some enthusiasts involved in it's use and continuing development. It has patches that allow it to (wow!) access hard drive partitions larger than 4 MB, which wasn't possible with the Stock CP/M-86 that I have in a boxed set on my shelf.
DR-DOS was a derivative product from Digital Research.
And Digital Research's problem with signing NDAs came out of the hippy culture the company grew up in. That never really changed enough for the company to survive.
It's good to see that DR-DOS survived being a prop in an anti-Microsoft show trial and is still a viable Operating System for some uses.
Noorda is a bitter, bitter man.
Yikes. You let her get away with Waaaay too much time in Fashion Bug, dude.
Come on. Be honest. You were sliming Bush and got called on it.
The Soviets had a lot of interest in India, and in fact had good relations with the Indian government. It was never part of the Soviet empire, however.
It was sweet what IBM did to India, though. I wish Microsoft would do the same to the EU.
Isnt' there a nasty growth of something in the back of your refrigerator that you should be 'protecting' from extinction?
And it gets burned down once in awhile, i.e. Alexandria. But I think the word you were after was 'knowledge' not science. Science is just the term to describe a method of working toward knowledge.
And it's not even the only method, though there are people who zealously claim so.
The Big U (a.k.a Neil Stephenson's coolest book)
Well, then, I guess we should all curl up and die, eh?
Plus it came to symbolize a much larger conflict between the Bush administration's self-interested unilateral actions and much of the rest of the world's eglatarian compromising.
What a load of bullshit. Kyoto was dead before Bush was even nominated as a presidential candidate.
Most end users aren't in the IT business. To them, IT is a money-sink, and not something they're prepared to spend a lot of money 'investing' in. It's something they consider like the copying machines. They're not going to hire engineers to maintain and rebuild the copying machines. They're not going to hire engineers to write code for the network.
And hey, if it requires the users to learn a bit about computers is that really such a bad thing?
Yes. It's a bad thing. It's not what they are paying people to do.
There isn't a version of Linux for my IBM PowerStation 320H. It runs AIX 4.2 very nicely, though. It's fricking ancient. The CPU is about five different chip packages.
Why will it be a victorious day when IBM ends AIX? It's a nice OS with a lot of good features.
He was talking about his Mom's Win98 system. (which he sneaks and runs a copy of Linux on, with a loopback filesystem)
That sounded like nervous laughter.
'First they laugh at you.....'
The existence of the X Window System doesn't automatically mean that a full set of configuration tools for the huge hardware base magically appears.
The missing step 0. involves traveling back in time to when IBM was producing said drives with the defects.
But anyway. Sorry to spoil the humor.
With OSS the model is.
1. Do stuff.
2. Find problems and bugs.
3. Hope somebody out there at random fixes it.
4. Wait some more.
5. Hopefully still make profit.
The notion of treating your business computers like 'information appliances,' meanwhile, has vaporized. And that's what a lot of businesses are after. Companies don't hire mechanical engineers to build them special-purpose cogs for the copying machine that will make it produce copies 20% faster. They won't hire programmers, either.
Commercial vendors are in a drive toward standaridzation, and working to turn computer software, and the support needed to administer it, into a commodity. The notion of returning to the 1980's method of hiring 'consultants' to engage in special code tweaks on their equipment is antiquated and it's exactly what businesses do NOT want any longer.
Now, if IBM can hide all that activity beneath a 'shroud' called IBM, and certify their team of people to engage in said support activities, they'll get somewhere.
Gonna work as a drone for IBM sometime in the near future? You're not gonna get the contract to work on IBM deployments as an independent contractor.
Again, so you're saying OOo is just as crash prone as MS Office.
These 'well, Microsoft does xxxxx, so there!' snide responses to problems in OSS are really pathetic. It's like the discusson is packed with 'Anything But Microsoft' dweebs, who are happy to settle for 'anything but' compromises.
Statement's like this are totally, well, retarded:
Oookay. So we know you snuck off and were smoking dope instead of attending class in Freshman Comp....
So your point is: they both do it.
Good. I'm glad we agree on that point.
I'm typing this in Mozilla on a machine running Slackware. Do you really think it's a forced 'either/or' choice between Microsoft and Apple?
It all seems to boil down to 'winning the speed competition' and very little has been written about the equipment actually being used to Do Science .
That was my main point, and you seem to have avoided it entirely.
The whole thing is a dicksize competition and bullshit academia tricks to get funding.
Who'd want to work at Apple? They had to buy in their new OS (much like Microsoft did back in 1980). It's not the 'prestige' thing it once was to work at Apple any longer. Hell, Steve Jobs has resorted to selling sugar water (the iTunes gimmick bottlecap thing).
He doesn't belong to your religion. Deal with it.
I've consistently gotten more done on non-Mac boxes, where I can roll up my sleeves and dig into the filesystem. Perhaps if you're a dilentante or a light user, the Mac makes you more productive.
Didn't even read what he typed, huh? Here, I'll put it in bold for you.
what a computer was marketed as has no bearing.
I worked at a medical device company several years ago where there were entire floors in the building with 64-bit Sparc Ultra 1 boxes on the desk in each cubicle. Being used as fricking desktop machines.
However, as Apple's whole marketing history is about weasel-claims, that doesn't matter... It a cult thing, as it has been for decades now.