Exactly my point. At the moment he has Linux/Windows/Mac in a diverse situation and it sounds like he doesn't have the Windows/Mac Adminstrative knowledge, however, doing a unified Hardware/Software plan would save his company considerable money and time in admin costs.
I know what you are referring to as far as the "Corporate Gmail" but the user didn't specify which he was referring to, however, I would imagine that running your own Exchange Server or "Outsourcing" your email would likely have comparitive costs.
"Outlook is slow and cumbersome to use"
-I don't know what version of outlook you're using or what hardware you're using it on but I don't have those issues with Exchange or Outlook. I am a BSD/IMAP/QMAIL Guy myself but Exchange 2007/2010 paired with Outlook 2007/2010 on proper hardware works just fine when properly maintained and configured.
""collaboration options"? In Outlook? What are you talking about?"
-Referring to Distribution Lists, the Outlook Calendar, Shared Calendars, MS Communicator, all would be lost in the move to GMail. Often these options can help different deparments (i.e. Sales, Marketing, Administration, etc) together in one application, even across different Operating Systems (Using OWA).
"As for him being fresh out of college, I don't know what college he went to, but in my reading, it seems like most colleges and universities these days are locked into Windows, and even teach only MS technologies in their CS departments."
-This couldn't be farther from the truth. While most universities teach heavily in windows, most computer science classes focus on Linux and in some cases Solaris. Most younger professors preach Linux as the cure all to Windows Issues.
Over all what I am saying is a Unified Hardware/Software plan properly installed and maintained is cheaper on the Administrative Costs than a 3 Teired Windows/Linux/Mac Setup.
Lets break this down:
"I see this as an opportunity to bring up the topic of migrating the majority of our office from Windows 7 to Linux and from Exchange to Gmail"
-Why? Most users are not comfortable with anything other than Windows. Second Windows 7 is still somewhat fresh, I mean, your going to depreciate software that you likely purchased less than 6 months to a year old? Sounds like an immediate waste of money rather than a long term savings. The Second part of your question makes it seem like your some dumbass fresh out of college. Really? GMail over Exchange? Are you willing to hedge your business needs on a free email service, not to mention the loss of collaboration options, etc?
All in all it sounds like this situation:
1) You're a Junior Administrator or Helpdesk Engineer
2) They fired the ACTUAL IT Staff and left you since you are cheap enough to keep on the books.
Look, want to save money? Look into Virtualization Options, Open Office instead of Microsoft. Linux is not the end all at the workstation level, no matter what they tell you in college.
Everyone,
Remember this is the president that has implied that we are all guilty as terrorists until proven innocent. Bush authorized AT&T to do this "Dragnet" and frankly they were stupid enough to do it.
This will hopefully spawn a mass exodus away from AT&T's Voice and Data infastructure. What I'm concerned about isn't just the home data connections, but what about major DataCenters that have AT&T Peering? I'm wondering if that secure private data off the servers in those datacenters is being chewed up by the NSA?
At any rate screw them, their prices suck, their cell phones BLOW, and their data services is unreliable (now at least we know why... NSA looking up all those nude pictures of Chelsey Clinton).
I am saying that it wasn't a registered copyright October 27, 2003, long after the commercial was run on MTV. He may have a "personal copyright" to the song, but "personal copyrights" are harder to hold up in court than one thats registered.
Indeed if you have a legal copyright in conception, what proof do you have outside of doing something like mailing yourself the original documents in an envelope and leaving it sealed, proving your wrote them. A legal copyright is a legal document saying hey I wrote this and they can prove it for me.
The point is Apple used a portion of the lyrics a while before the legal copyright was registered. So all they have to go on is a personal copyright.
Anyone who creates a work of literature, if it be lyrics, a book, etc, has a copyright, but then if they choose they can become a registered copyright, which is a legal copyright, it holds up in court a lot better than just saying "hey I wrote that you fruity bastard!"
His label, 8 Mile Style, owned by him, arranged for him to be one of the first exclusive artist on the iTMS. Now the label is suing Apple for a song that wasn't legally copyrighted until long after that commercial was run on MTV. Its a ploy to get his name in the papers and keep it there. Ya know he bitches about people not leaving him alone and boycotting him.. then goes and does this over something so little.. ironic.
Indeed you are slightly mistaken here. Since Apple is now a debt free company, it makes it a more attractive buy for someone else since they do not have to take more debt, it makes it more attractive.
Since 1997, eliminating that much debt in 7 years is a real accomplishment. At least we now know, finally that Apple isn't going out of business or declare bankruptcy. (Like it was going to happen anyway)
Well, how is that different from someone borrowing your car and then leaving some narcotic in your car, when you get pulled over and the cop finds it in your car you get charged..
If you buy them then why do they expire? Thats like buying a car and then having it "expire" after 1 year of use.
Domains are leased, not owned, they are owned in the technical sense, but in reality, its like a lease.
What's the difference between selling a domain that you lease from a registrar and a phone number you lease from a cellular company?
Ebay is lame if they can't clearly see the similarities, hell ebay is lame anyway.
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What problems would that be?
Exactly my point. At the moment he has Linux/Windows/Mac in a diverse situation and it sounds like he doesn't have the Windows/Mac Adminstrative knowledge, however, doing a unified Hardware/Software plan would save his company considerable money and time in admin costs.
I know what you are referring to as far as the "Corporate Gmail" but the user didn't specify which he was referring to, however, I would imagine that running your own Exchange Server or "Outsourcing" your email would likely have comparitive costs. "Outlook is slow and cumbersome to use" -I don't know what version of outlook you're using or what hardware you're using it on but I don't have those issues with Exchange or Outlook. I am a BSD/IMAP/QMAIL Guy myself but Exchange 2007/2010 paired with Outlook 2007/2010 on proper hardware works just fine when properly maintained and configured. ""collaboration options"? In Outlook? What are you talking about?" -Referring to Distribution Lists, the Outlook Calendar, Shared Calendars, MS Communicator, all would be lost in the move to GMail. Often these options can help different deparments (i.e. Sales, Marketing, Administration, etc) together in one application, even across different Operating Systems (Using OWA). "As for him being fresh out of college, I don't know what college he went to, but in my reading, it seems like most colleges and universities these days are locked into Windows, and even teach only MS technologies in their CS departments." -This couldn't be farther from the truth. While most universities teach heavily in windows, most computer science classes focus on Linux and in some cases Solaris. Most younger professors preach Linux as the cure all to Windows Issues. Over all what I am saying is a Unified Hardware/Software plan properly installed and maintained is cheaper on the Administrative Costs than a 3 Teired Windows/Linux/Mac Setup.
Lets break this down: "I see this as an opportunity to bring up the topic of migrating the majority of our office from Windows 7 to Linux and from Exchange to Gmail" -Why? Most users are not comfortable with anything other than Windows. Second Windows 7 is still somewhat fresh, I mean, your going to depreciate software that you likely purchased less than 6 months to a year old? Sounds like an immediate waste of money rather than a long term savings. The Second part of your question makes it seem like your some dumbass fresh out of college. Really? GMail over Exchange? Are you willing to hedge your business needs on a free email service, not to mention the loss of collaboration options, etc? All in all it sounds like this situation: 1) You're a Junior Administrator or Helpdesk Engineer 2) They fired the ACTUAL IT Staff and left you since you are cheap enough to keep on the books. Look, want to save money? Look into Virtualization Options, Open Office instead of Microsoft. Linux is not the end all at the workstation level, no matter what they tell you in college.
Everyone, Remember this is the president that has implied that we are all guilty as terrorists until proven innocent. Bush authorized AT&T to do this "Dragnet" and frankly they were stupid enough to do it. This will hopefully spawn a mass exodus away from AT&T's Voice and Data infastructure. What I'm concerned about isn't just the home data connections, but what about major DataCenters that have AT&T Peering? I'm wondering if that secure private data off the servers in those datacenters is being chewed up by the NSA? At any rate screw them, their prices suck, their cell phones BLOW, and their data services is unreliable (now at least we know why... NSA looking up all those nude pictures of Chelsey Clinton).
There is always BSD...
I am saying that it wasn't a registered copyright October 27, 2003, long after the commercial was run on MTV. He may have a "personal copyright" to the song, but "personal copyrights" are harder to hold up in court than one thats registered. Indeed if you have a legal copyright in conception, what proof do you have outside of doing something like mailing yourself the original documents in an envelope and leaving it sealed, proving your wrote them. A legal copyright is a legal document saying hey I wrote this and they can prove it for me. The point is Apple used a portion of the lyrics a while before the legal copyright was registered. So all they have to go on is a personal copyright.
Anyone who creates a work of literature, if it be lyrics, a book, etc, has a copyright, but then if they choose they can become a registered copyright, which is a legal copyright, it holds up in court a lot better than just saying "hey I wrote that you fruity bastard!"
His label, 8 Mile Style, owned by him, arranged for him to be one of the first exclusive artist on the iTMS. Now the label is suing Apple for a song that wasn't legally copyrighted until long after that commercial was run on MTV. Its a ploy to get his name in the papers and keep it there. Ya know he bitches about people not leaving him alone and boycotting him.. then goes and does this over something so little.. ironic.
Indeed you are slightly mistaken here. Since Apple is now a debt free company, it makes it a more attractive buy for someone else since they do not have to take more debt, it makes it more attractive.
Since 1997, eliminating that much debt in 7 years is a real accomplishment. At least we now know, finally that Apple isn't going out of business or declare bankruptcy. (Like it was going to happen anyway)
Well, how is that different from someone borrowing your car and then leaving some narcotic in your car, when you get pulled over and the cop finds it in your car you get charged..
If you buy them then why do they expire? Thats like buying a car and then having it "expire" after 1 year of use. Domains are leased, not owned, they are owned in the technical sense, but in reality, its like a lease.
What's the difference between selling a domain that you lease from a registrar and a phone number you lease from a cellular company? Ebay is lame if they can't clearly see the similarities, hell ebay is lame anyway.