> Shareware developers need not apply, which happen to make the Windows platform what it is today
Yes, the Windows platform of today... you have the choice between expensive and sometimes high-quality apps. Or cheap/free pop-up-advertisement-spyware apps.
I think I'll stick with the many times high-quality apps of Linux.
Given the current financial situation of some countries, and their huge budget deficits. Is it really wise to spend billions on sending a man to a huge red rock in outer space?
> it took several distros before I found one that would even install and boot without errors
several distros? That means that you tried different OS:s. With the Linux core in common.
So if I take the windows kernel. Add some hacks here and there and a bunch of weird installation-options, would that make Windows in general super-unfriendly?
Really? How come setting up a modem internet connection doesn't "simply work" then? Gosh, Microsoft has had like 10 years and billions of dollars to get that "simply working".
Well, I guess, if you've done it (eventhough it's a mess) like 100 times before, it might just seem to "simply work".
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> Konqueror in KDE 3.3 is going to be great.
Or maybe we just have to wait for the 3.2.x series...
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>...including enterprises with internally developed software that don't want to release source code.
You really believe this? And what do you think will happen in the end then? When commercial apps just take what they want without contributing back? Outrunning the free software competition. I can already see the next Microsoft a la Linux before my eyes...
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You might also consider the "Artistic license", which can be used with Qt, just choose the QPL license.
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Maybe you think you can get Internet Explorer for free as well?
Well, consider this: Somebody has to be working on coding the Internet Explorer, and they definitely get paid.
Where do you think the money comes from? Conclusions? That's right, you don't get it for free.
Isn't it terrible? How can the people at Microsoft live with themselves? Taking opportunities like this to squeez out every last piece of wealth they have in Irak. Fool them, lock them in, pump out the money. But hey, I guess that's what happens when you appoint criminals to big contracts.
Actually there is one other interesting "detail" here...
The fine in itself is not that important, it's the crime and the damage.
When you commit an economical crime, you have to pay: A fine + Economical Damages made.
If they actually find that there is a crime committed by Microsoft against the european consumers, they will have to pay all economical damages done. Should be an interesting calculation.
100 million? This has got to be a joke. A fine is supposed to be a punishment. What's the point of it if you don't even notice that you're being punished.
Who is this Bruce Perens anyway? Doesn't seem to me like his project is that much greater than any other. There are thousands of cool projects out there. so what's the big deal?
300$-500$ doesn't seem like big enough fine to me.
How much hasn't Microsoft robbed us consumers in terms of overprices for their monopolist software? 300-500$? That's for a year... Common guys...give them a fine.
Yes, the LGPL is dangerous. Why? Because you can make proprietary apps without contributing back to the community. Thus making it possible to outrun the free competition.
We don't want this...
> Timothy Ney
> Executive Director
Mkay...
I thought there was talk about separating the GUI from the functionality entirely. That's what I would call a revolutionary GUI.
> Shareware developers need not apply, which happen to make the Windows platform what it is today
Yes, the Windows platform of today... you have the choice between expensive and sometimes high-quality apps. Or cheap/free pop-up-advertisement-spyware apps.
I think I'll stick with the many times high-quality apps of Linux.
Try Amarok, great app.
> but there are so many other alternatives out there
Not really. Not for handhelds for example.
Opera still has their "one page 2 one column" feature.
> There aren't job openings for 'Physicist' or 'Mathematician'
You miss the point. Mathematics is the most widely applicable subject that exist.
In fact, programming _is_ applied mathematics.
Now, that gives a hint of how to become a kick ass software engineer.
> they are both under the GPL
Actually, Qt is dual licensed, GPL and QPL.
Which means more freedom of choice for the developer.
> The Russian service module is a self-contained space station, and it cost $200 million.
:-)
You mean like a space station in the space station. Wow, cool...
That's what I call that redundancy.
Given the current financial situation of some countries, and their huge budget deficits.
Is it really wise to spend billions on sending a man to a huge red rock in outer space?
> it took several distros before I found one that would even install and boot without errors
several distros? That means that you tried different OS:s. With the Linux core in common.
So if I take the windows kernel. Add some hacks here and there and a bunch of weird installation-options, would that make Windows in general super-unfriendly?
> Windows simply WORKS
Really? How come setting up a modem internet connection doesn't "simply work" then?
Gosh, Microsoft has had like 10 years and billions of dollars to get that "simply working".
Well, I guess, if you've done it (eventhough it's a mess) like 100 times before, it might just seem to "simply work".
> Konqueror in KDE 3.3 is going to be great. Or maybe we just have to wait for the 3.2.x series...
> ...including enterprises with internally developed software that don't want to release source code.
You really believe this? And what do you think will happen in the end then? When commercial apps just take what they want without contributing back? Outrunning the free software competition. I can already see the next Microsoft a la Linux before my eyes...
You might also consider the "Artistic license", which can be used with Qt, just choose the QPL license.
Maybe you think you can get Internet Explorer for free as well?
Well, consider this:
Somebody has to be working on coding the Internet Explorer, and they definitely get paid.
Where do you think the money comes from?
Conclusions? That's right, you don't get it for free.
Isn't it terrible?
How can the people at Microsoft live with themselves?
Taking opportunities like this to squeez out every last piece of wealth they have in Irak.
Fool them, lock them in, pump out the money.
But hey, I guess that's what happens when you appoint criminals to big contracts.
> quick 'n' easy cash
4 years of investigation to get 100 million $.
And you call that quick 'n' easy ?
Actually there is one other interesting "detail" here...
The fine in itself is not that important, it's the crime and the damage.
When you commit an economical crime, you have to pay: A fine + Economical Damages made.
If they actually find that there is a crime committed by Microsoft against the european consumers, they will have to pay all economical damages done. Should be an interesting calculation.
100 million? This has got to be a joke.
A fine is supposed to be a punishment.
What's the point of it if you don't even notice that you're being punished.
"Hello, this is Linux Thorvalds and I pronounce Linux as Linux"
> but no laws were broken here
That means no laws were broken in that country.
Developing countries often have underdeveloped laws (and court systems).
This does not mean that international corporations should behave like badasses, unfortunately they often do.
Well, maybe you have a point.
Trying to show the ridiculous things some people seem to hide deep down in their abyss, are you?
Who is this Bruce Perens anyway?
Doesn't seem to me like his project is that much greater than any other.
There are thousands of cool projects out there. so what's the big deal?
But it gives a hint to what kind of guy this Bruce really is...
300$-500$ doesn't seem like big enough fine to me. How much hasn't Microsoft robbed us consumers in terms of overprices for their monopolist software? 300-500$? That's for a year... Common guys...give them a fine.
Yes, the LGPL is dangerous. Why? Because you can make proprietary apps without contributing back to the community. Thus making it possible to outrun the free competition. We don't want this... > Timothy Ney > Executive Director Mkay...